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Speaker 1: Ash math.

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you a band that not only am

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Speaker 2: I obsessed with them, my children are obsessed with them.

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Speaker 2: We play them every time in the car. Corn Divers

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Speaker 2: City Close. Do you want to have a listen?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Can you?

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Speaker 3: God silly? Get your hands silly and city hands silly,

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Speaker 3: Get your pants silly and Sidney Pants City Shop back.

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Speaker 3: Get everybody get down on the floor.

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Speaker 2: Ah, that sounds nothing like Corn. Get your kids on

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Speaker 2: the Diversity divers City Right, they are the best.

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Speaker 4: Kop or Kersey Lepeters for sut is one half of Diversity,

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Speaker 4: alongside Matt o'kine.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Kope is one of those musicians who has

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Speaker 2: been in our ears in ways we didn't even realize.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, that's thirteen thirty thirty two, Matthew.

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Speaker 2: We will get into the lubabill later a little bit

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Speaker 2: later in the episode, but let's try something a little

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Speaker 2: bit more current. By night, Kop is filling out the

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Speaker 2: dance floor to incoherent adults and by day stumbling toddlers.

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Speaker 1: Two ends of the spectrum but similar in so many ways.

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Speaker 2: She juggles this alongside her main gig as Mum to

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Speaker 2: see Jenna and Monty with her partner Nick Kop.

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Speaker 4: Tells us her secret hiding spot when she needs a

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Speaker 4: little bit of a lone time Matthew.

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Speaker 2: She also talks about how different her girl's birds were

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Speaker 2: and her ongoing dilemma that involves waffle stomping my favorite.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into it. Welcome back to two doting dads

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Speaker 2: and one doting mum. I am Maddie Jay, I'm Ash

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Speaker 2: and I'm Kop. And this is a podcast all about parenting.

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Speaker 2: It is the good, is.

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Speaker 1: The bad, and the relatable.

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Speaker 2: And we don't give advice. Koorp. You can illegally you

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Speaker 2: are allowed, Ash and I are not allowed.

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Speaker 3: Okay, great, good to know.

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Speaker 2: We've had a few season desist letters by lawyers, so

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Speaker 2: for legal reasons, we can't give advice. But guess they are.

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Speaker 2: They escape any kind of punishment for sure, legally for sure.

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Speaker 1: Welcome. Thank you for coming.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: Where are your kids right now?

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Speaker 3: I thought you had them? My kids one is in

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Speaker 3: year one and one is in daycare? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Can I say thank you? Thank because this time is precious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is. But I mean my kids have

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Speaker 3: love it. They really do. Like we do have those

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Speaker 3: But whenever they're there, they just have so much fun,

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Speaker 3: and I feel a lot of pressure to provide them

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Speaker 4: On the weekend, it's no they like you said, they go,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to go to that, and then you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're going to go do something boring.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, children getting sick at daycare, it's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Have you had any situations, Yeah, all the time.

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Speaker 3: But very early on with Sienna, we discovered she was

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Speaker 3: No, it totally does, Yeah, because when they've got those

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Speaker 4: Out and I remember I was walking with lenning up

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Speaker 2: Like I kind of wish I had my tonsils taken out.

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Speaker 1: They're stunting learning.

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Speaker 2: Now instead. I just got circumcised.

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Speaker 2: We always like to know with our guests what you

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Speaker 2: You seem like someone who would be very well behaved.

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Speaker 3: But I was very determined. I was a good negotiator.

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Speaker 3: There was it. I don't want to name the travel company,

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Speaker 3: Right, I was always like a performer. My dad was

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Speaker 2: What was that group called? Again?

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Speaker 3: It was called Real Blondes. Terrible name, look it up.

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Speaker 3: Put in the SoundBite it was it was actually it

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Speaker 2: So we will put a SoundBite in. Is there a

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Speaker 3: The classic is we Be Cool? Yeah? Do you know

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Speaker 2: He was he DJing or U DJ.

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Speaker 3: No, It was definitely me even saying to his face,

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Speaker 2: Fuck, we love each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then yeah yeah, and now we've been to

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah crazy?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, congratulations, Yeah, why what's the secret?

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Speaker 3: It's like this is going to it's not funny at all,

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Speaker 3: but like repair from issues. We're really good at discussing issues,

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Speaker 2: It's funny, becau. Laura and I had a big fight

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Speaker 4: And yeah, totally because you can be like, hey, I

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Speaker 3: You've got to find practical ways to do that. Sometimes hard,

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing about Nick. When we first the

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Speaker 3: So in my mind, I thought, well, this has an

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Speaker 2: Let's just preface that a very beautiful.

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Speaker 3: This is too much love for Nick, very mature.

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Speaker 2: He's actually doing wonders to repair the image of DJs

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Speaker 2: It's hard to decide when is the right time to

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Speaker 2: The birth of Siena, your first was that very planned.

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Speaker 3: is also this could be incorrect. Now, this is what

442
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 3: happened with me. They waited until the thirty seven week

443
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 3: scan because they're then too big to turn around again.

444
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 3: Up until that stage, they can flip all the time.

445
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 3: So thirty seven week scan, we went in and they said,

446
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 3: she's breach. You've also got low amniotic flow, so she's

447
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 3: swimming in like a very shallow pool. So they were

448
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 3: kind of watching her, and they said, even if you

449
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: go into labor, it's a sea section, Like there's just

450
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 3: no way, too high risk, too high risk, So we

451
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 3: knew it was going to be a sea section. And

452
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: I definitely felt a little bit ripped off at that choice,

453
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 3: you know, like I almost feel like it's weird saying

454
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: choice because it's put to you, like you have this choice,

455
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: but I feel like the body just decides for you.

456
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 3: But at the time I felt a little bit ripped off.

457
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 3: But looking back now, the planned sea section was a

458
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: dream for me.

459
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: It was Why was that?

460
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 3: Because you had a time you went in. I had

461
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 3: like a little bit of makeup on my hair, was nice.

462
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 3: We had these photos of Nick and I, you know,

463
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 3: doing peace signs, like in the waiting room you go in.

464
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 3: It's all very controlled. I swear Sienna just would have

465
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 3: been snoozing in there and they just pluck her out.

466
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: Do you have music playing? Did you do you get

467
00:23:59,040 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 2: to decide to play.

468
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 3: It on repeat? No? I can't even remember that, but

469
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 3: I just it was such a chilled experience. Was very quick,

470
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: even the scar. I think, you know, because you're not

471
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: in labor. The cut was very simple for me, whereas

472
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 3: my second child, I attempted a v back out because

473
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 3: vaginal birth after caesarean v BA. Yeah, so if you

474
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 3: haven't had a caesarean because of complications with going into labor,

475
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 3: like for me, we don't. We didn't know at the

476
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 3: time if my body could go into labor. So I'm

477
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 3: allowed to try it, but there's there's different risks because

478
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: my uteruses being cut, so they can't induce you, et cetera,

479
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: because it can rupture so and they won't let you

480
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 3: try it after a certain amount of weeks, et cetera.

481
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 3: So there were different restrictions to it, but I want

482
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 3: to give it a go because I wanted to experience labor. Yeah,

483
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 3: I did, and after a little bit, I was like,

484
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 3: this is how long.

485
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: Did you do it? Look?

486
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: Hours? But then I had complications because my waters didn't

487
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 3: break properly. They then had to break the waters and

488
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: then it was an emergency sea section. And the emergency

489
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: sea section over a planned one was a whole different

490
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 3: experience for me. Yeah, and there were just a few

491
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: little complications in the greatest scheme of things, and just

492
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: from what I know from my friends and things, it

493
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 3: was still fairly chill. But that compared to the planned one.

494
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 3: I look back and I'm like, damn, I should have

495
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 3: just done planned again.

496
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 4: It is like we've we've had both as well. And yeah,

497
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 4: that plan one, it's like checking do you have a

498
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 4: C section?

499
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: Is that a joke?

500
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really funny, but yeah, it's like checking into

501
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 4: a hotel and you come out with a baby like

502
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 4: four days.

503
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: That, to excuse my co hosts thinks is really fun.

504
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: You didn't pass out, did you.

505
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about it.

506
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 3: They did tell me this story when I was having

507
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 3: the epidural. They were like, dads sometimes pass out, so

508
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 3: they made me.

509
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: I'm anything about it anyone, because I keep get in

510
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: trouble for talking about it. Yes, yeah, no, how was

511
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: your husband doing it? Though?

512
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: He was fine? I mean he gets really scared at

513
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: needles and things, so I think if they didn't keep

514
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 3: him out of the room, he maybe would have passed

515
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: out like you, but he was, he was fine. I mean,

516
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 3: it's would be such a weird experience for the dads,

517
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 3: I think just seeing their partner and feeling a little

518
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 3: bit helpless. I don't know, not knowing what to do.

519
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: Tough for dads, and tough that seems really uncomfortable than women.

520
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: But I'm just recognizing that. Like I think if I

521
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 3: was in that position, like what can I do?

522
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 4: And that planned one where you're like you both went in,

523
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 4: you be getting photos and stuff like that, and at

524
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 4: some point it's like, all right, guys, we need to

525
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 4: be serious. And then you're kind of in your scrubs

526
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 4: and getting prepped for surgery and you're right.

527
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: I was sitting there and I'm like, it's a fucking

528
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: weird morning. Yeah, we just had breakfast.

529
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 3: Nick, hold your hand, is he no, because you're you've

530
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 3: got your hands like one arm is strapped down because

531
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 3: it's got the drip, right, and I think he was

532
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: maybe holding that one or the other one. You can move, yeah,

533
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 3: but you're like numb from here down, so you can't

534
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 3: move from there down. Second time, when it was the

535
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 3: emergency C section, because I had been in labor when

536
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: they gave me the epidural, Oh, it was horrible. I

537
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 3: was then like vomiting all over myself and kind of

538
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 3: passing out and yeah, so that was horrible because I

539
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: think it's just different again to that controlled environment of

540
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: having the epidural and yeah, I think you're having contractions and.

541
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 2: The option of not vomiting on your else. Yeah, can

542
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 2: we see those photos?

543
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 3: Oh man, it was But also I don't know, looking

544
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: back on it all, it just seems almost irrelevant to

545
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: all the other things your face as a parent, Like

546
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 3: that's just this started line.

547
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: You get vomited on and then involed on yourself, someone

548
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: else's ship vomented on you.

549
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

550
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 3: No one talks about the amount of body fluids that

551
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: you deal with.

552
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's relentless, like you you might as well throw

553
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 4: your wardrobe out because you just get covered in.

554
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 3: Like we know, tired. I was really in fashion when

555
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 3: I had Sienna, and I was just walking around in

556
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: tied I shirts because it would disguise a baby bomb.

557
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: Hot tip.

558
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: Parents out there. Did you have any set plan on

559
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: when you would start returning to work and DJing.

560
00:28:54,720 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I think for multiple reasons. First being, I worked

561
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 3: for myself, so I didn't have much Mattley, yeah, yeah,

562
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: and I think at the time it was less. It

563
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: was twelve weeks or something. I think it's more now,

564
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: so I needed to financially. But then I was really

565
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: determined to prove myself because you give up so much

566
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: of your identity when you have kids that I was

567
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: just desperate to keep functioning as Kop and you still

568
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: exist in that way. So it was, yeah, a bit

569
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: of a combo of the two.

570
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: How soon was your first gig?

571
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: I think it was about four months, yeah, and so

572
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: I did a tour around Australia where I took Sienna

573
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: and everywhere I would go, I would take my mum

574
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: or a different friend. I would feed her in the

575
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 3: hotel room, go out, play a club, come back, feed her,

576
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: go to sleep. It wasn't that far off the shitty

577
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: sleep schedule of having a few months old. Anywhere, it's

578
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: kind of the same. You may as well go play

579
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: a nightclub.

580
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: Would you request, like an early set? Do I have

581
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: to play?

582
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: Are you going to be awake all night? Anyway? Sleep?

583
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: For me, going out and doing that for an hour

584
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: was just like refreshing.

585
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 2: It would have been strange because when you have your

586
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: first child, you're kind of embracing this new image that

587
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: you have. Here are now mother, You're a parent, and

588
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you can't go into a club and be like,

589
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: hey everyone, I'm a mom now.

590
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I struggled with that a little bit. I

591
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: feel like Hannah Montana a lot of the time, especially

592
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 3: when I'm going into a club and I'm with these

593
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: young eighteen year olds and I'm like, I could be

594
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: your mother. But yeah.

595
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: I also just expressed and fed my.

596
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 3: Child, yeah, like, And I almost wish I'd documented it

597
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: a little bit more, but again, I was trying to

598
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: maintain my identity as kop so like, I started a

599
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: separate Instagram account that does have the mom's side a

600
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 3: little bit more, and I could express that a little

601
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: bit more online and separate it because I didn't want

602
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: to alienate the ravers. Yeah you know, okay, yeah yeah.

603
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: So I mean it's they think it's cute, and they

604
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: would say, oh, techno, mum, et cetera, which is cute.

605
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 3: But then after a while you just want to be

606
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: able to relate because I feel like it's just almost

607
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: a decision that I have to make constantly of do

608
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 3: you look after like what comes first? No, prioritizing your

609
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: kids or prioritizing me time. And it's just this constant

610
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: battle that I think parents, but in particular Mum's face

611
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: of giving themselves permission to say no, I need to

612
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: do this and this comes first. So I guess that's

613
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 3: just I mean, at the start, it's such a challenge.

614
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: Now I think I'm a little bit better at it.

615
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: Like even just the other day, Nick was out for

616
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: a run because he's always running his new thing now,

617
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: and he kind of got back and we were going

618
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: to a family thing and there wasn't enough time for

619
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: me to go and exercise, and I was like, I

620
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: really need to do something just for my body, but

621
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: my sanity. I either do that and I miss out

622
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: on doing this family thing, like which one do I do,

623
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: And in the moment, I was like, I need to

624
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: just go and do this for myself and just having

625
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: to kind of make that decision. And I see it

626
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: all the time with friends where they don't do that

627
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: and then it's just so detrimental to their body and mind,

628
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: and it's just like a constant thing that you have

629
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: to make that.

630
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: Choice, and then the parent guilt afterwards.

631
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we told.

632
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 4: A lot about you got to fill your own cup. Yeah, right,

633
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: we talk about filling their cup so much. And I

634
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 4: see with April, like April gets so guilty when she

635
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 4: puts herself first, and you're putting yourself first is actually

636
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: really helping us because like you're revitalized, you're full of endorphins,

637
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: you're doing your thing, and the kids they pick up

638
00:32:59,520 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 4: that energy.

639
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well yeah, I'm a better parent when I do that.

640
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: But it's also I think I heard this somewhere probably

641
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: on a podcast setting an example of like, first of all,

642
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: I like my job, so like I like working and

643
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: I feel I'm lucky that I do like my job,

644
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: but that I will put myself first and say to

645
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 3: my kids, and I know this is really hard, but

646
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: like I need to do this, and when you're grown up,

647
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: I hope that you prioritize the things that you need

648
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 3: to do, even if that's like a little hard in

649
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: the moment, but it's just it gets a little bit easier,

650
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: but it's just hard. It's hard to do that all

651
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: the time. The parent guilt is just crazy.

652
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: There's gonna be some reason for while we have that

653
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: in our brains, like fuck off guilt.

654
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if you didn't, if you could just

655
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 4: go and do your thing without any guilt, you're kind

656
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 4: of dehumanized the whole thing a little bit. You're gonna

657
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 4: I guess some sort of you know, am I doing

658
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 4: the right thing? But I think, like I said, if

659
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 4: you're at that level, you're setting an example that you

660
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 4: can be. You love your job, you are in you know,

661
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 4: you're happier mom, you your energy is really high.

662
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: They'll pick up. And Nick is actually, to his credit,

663
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: he's always been very encouraging that. Like when we agree

664
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: we're going to have kids, I remember writing it down.

665
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 3: We had these little agreements, and we had agreements we're

666
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: going to save up extra money for maternity leave, et cetera.

667
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: Because we didn't have much and I was very much.

668
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 3: It's fifty to fifty on everything, you know, down to

669
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 3: the hour at times. And he would be very encouraging

670
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 3: if he'd gone out and done something, or he'd played

671
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 3: a show or he'd been out with his mates, he'd

672
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 3: say you go, like, go do it, and he'd say

673
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 3: I would go. And I remember one time I was

674
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: like I had one up my sleeve, you know, I

675
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: could go do something. And I took myself to Broadway

676
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 3: Camart because it was open like really long hours, just

677
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 3: because I needed to go somewhere, and I was just like,

678
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: I'm just going to keep making the decision and I

679
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 3: just walked around. It's actually amazing.

680
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: Was it like Akon and Ie and.

681
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 3: Just wandering around? It's kind of cool.

682
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: Without a kid. Yeah.

683
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've just had a long period of child free times. Yes,

684
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: shout out that came out opening to like ten pm.

685
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: Parent came out like did you guys buy something the

686
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 2: parents just walking around?

687
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

688
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: Did you take san gigs?

689
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 3: No?

690
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: No? No big headphones.

691
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: Yes. But when it was a festival it was at

692
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: five pm or something.

693
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: It's obviously a very different. Yeah.

694
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, So she came to a few gigs and then

695
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: she's been on stage a few times, and then now

696
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: that I have a kid's project as well, she insists

697
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: on coming on stage. So it's yeah, it's funny.

698
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: It was obviously like Fisher, for example, has A has Bobby.

699
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 4: I was at a Fisher concert and he's got a

700
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: big picture of Bobby.

701
00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: In front of him.

702
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so when he plays and it's like proud dad,

703
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 4: and then he's just got all these eighteen year olds

704
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 4: in front of him, just like going nuts.

705
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: And I do love that he talks about that so much.

706
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: It's very different for a woman totally.

707
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: Like I would.

708
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: Honestly like when we first had kids. We would turn

709
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: up somewhere and Nick would be there with me. It'd

710
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 3: be my show, and people would say to him, oh,

711
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: congrats on the new song or congrats on this, and

712
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: then to me they'd say, who's got the baby, and

713
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: that would be the question.

714
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: Or you know, they'd be it is yeah, yeah.

715
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: Or they'd be like an interview thing or I remember

716
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: there was this one panel and I think he was

717
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: asked to talk on this panel about his music, and

718
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 3: I was asked to talk on it about being a

719
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 3: woman and being a mom, et cetera. So that's the

720
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: whole thing. It's like, I think women want to lean

721
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: into it as much as say Fisher does, but we're

722
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: also trying to maintain that or hold onto our identity

723
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: away from being a mum, because we don't want to

724
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: just be defined by that. So yeah, I mean I

725
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: love that he does.

726
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: That, though the double standards. For Fisher, it's like, oh,

727
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 2: that's so sweet and endearing, and then for a female performer,

728
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: they'd be like, you should be at home, Yeah, you

729
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: should be home and reading them bedtime stories.

730
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's I mean, it's also why we started

731
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: Diversity because that was an outlet that I could actually

732
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 3: involve my kids in and they could come to the shows.

733
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: The songs could be directed at them, written about them,

734
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: written for them. So it was very different. And I

735
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 3: guess that's a good thing about music is you can

736
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 3: write all styles and there's different audiences for every type

737
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 3: of music. So and luckily I now have daycare and school,

738
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: so I have lots of time so I can make

739
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: different musical projects.

740
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: I got introduced to Diversity, and for any parents out

741
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: there who haven't listened to Diversity, it is fucking amazing.

742
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: Madow Kine invited me to twenty your gigs and I

743
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'm sure whatever Matt's involved in

744
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: is going to be good. But I was like, I

745
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: hadn't taken Marley. This is a few years ago now,

746
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: I hadn't taken her to any gigs before, and I

747
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know if you'll like it. Played

748
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: her a few songs beforehand, and she kind of enjoyed it.

749
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 2: But we went to I think those are the Comedy

750
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: Club and Siddy and she was obsessed and she is

751
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 2: going to be so annoyed that you're here in the

752
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: house right now and she's not around with performing gigs

753
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: to young kids. Did you love it straight away?

754
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: Yes? So, I mean we started Diversity in COVID because

755
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: Matt and I had kids five days apart and we

756
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: both weren't working. You're just singing these stupid songs your

757
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: kids to try and get them to do things, and

758
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: I think just threw us chatting because we were good mates.

759
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: The idea kind of came up and we eventually did

760
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: an album, and we were never really even planning on

761
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 3: doing shows, but then we just thought it would be

762
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: fun to try out, and after the first show, we

763
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: were both hooked because it's like a cleanse of your ego.

764
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: Any you know, he's a serious actor now besides the

765
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: comedy stuff you know in TV shows, etc. And movies.

766
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 3: And I'm you know, doing this DJ thing where you're

767
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: trying to write music that's going to get played on

768
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: the radio, and then you get up on stage and

769
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: you just say something like who loves cows, like.

770
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 5: The dumbest stuff, and the kids are so hyped, and

771
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 5: it's just refreshing because the stupider you are, the better

772
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 5: they and it's just the kids love it.

773
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 3: But then you can also throw in these comments and

774
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: this is where Matt is so good, where you like,

775
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: we do this one bit where we at the very

776
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 3: end of the show, we've got a song called Dance Silly,

777
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: and we say, you know, the kids have been dancing

778
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: really well, but the grown nuts have been letting the

779
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: team down. And so we get the kids to go

780
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: and get their grown up and then we get them

781
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: to get all of their silliness out of them, and

782
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: then we're going to say a magic word and go one, two, three,

783
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: put their silliness into the grown up and then we

784
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 3: dance to dance Silly. And so we do this bit

785
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: where I'm like, Okay, Matt, we need a magic word.

786
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: What's a magic word that's going to get grown ups

787
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 3: really excited? And he goes, oh, no taxes. Everyone's in

788
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: bed at seven o'clock. Like you can throw in these

789
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: things that go over the kids' heads that the parents

790
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 3: like and it's just really fun. So yeah, we just

791
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 3: did a run of shows and we did them at

792
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 3: bowling clubs. I don't know if you have a local

793
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 3: bowling club you go to, but the kids being able

794
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: to dance and then the parents being able to have

795
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: a beer.

796
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 4: Ah, is the best part about parenting when you can

797
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 4: all get together at a pub and the kids can

798
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 4: be like, do it being entertained in some capacity?

799
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: Yes, you're watching those parents out there going you take

800
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: you care to a pub and then you're there with

801
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: your mates just like.

802
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we do the work for you.

803
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, very smart.

804
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: It's just so fun, is it?

805
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: When you're writing songs, do you is it the same

806
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: hat or do you kind of trans from like remove

807
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: yourself from kop and then put your diversity hat on

808
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: because you're like, I'm not writing now for these eighteen

809
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: year old ravers. I'm writing for five year old Ravers

810
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: or is it the same process.

811
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 3: It's the same process as far as just trying to

812
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 3: make something that feels good because I try and just

813
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 3: really tap into that. Now the older I get writing songs,

814
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: but it's totally different because you're writing about I mean,

815
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: we have a song about a sad piece of spaghetti

816
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 3: that gets left in the.

817
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: It's a classic.

818
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 4: It's kind of like nothing's really you can make a

819
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 4: song about anything with the kids really, and that our.

820
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 3: Songs start from voice memos where one of us will

821
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: voice memo that's I've got this idea. So if you've

822
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 3: ever got ideas.

823
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, picture to me. Do we want to

824
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: get Kope to sign any legal letters before we piss

825
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 2: this song?

826
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't know that worried about it.

827
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: If you make this song and I have nothing to

828
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 4: do with it, I'll be happy. Okay, it's out not

829
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 4: drinking the bath water. Oh yes, So we went to Bali,

830
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 4: my kid's bath. The whole time over there, we didn't bath,

831
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 4: and we washed them down. We showered so that they

832
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 4: didn't drink the bath water because you know how that ends.

833
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 4: And then as soon as we got back the first bath,

834
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 4: I walked back in and makes you sucking on the washer.

835
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: Yes, that's all I could hear.

836
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 4: It was like I don't drink, and I'm like everybody

837
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 4: is having that argument to just not.

838
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: Drink the bathroom.

839
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: But you can make that funny. That's the beauty of

840
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 3: writing kids music. So it's and the way it would

841
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 3: kind of work is Matt usually comes up with something

842
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 3: like that, or I tell him an idea like that,

843
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 3: he makes it really funny, and then I'd say, maybe

844
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: not that funny if he's putting in the boundaries, and

845
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 3: then make the music.

846
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: Because you drink the bath water, you'd get the ships.

847
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, love Pooh, I mean we do. We don't

848
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 3: actually talk about Pooh yet. Maybe this is an undert.

849
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 3: We do have one about going to the toilet, yes,

850
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: and we do have personal we have there's a favorite

851
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: line of Matts. He goes it's like all my hardy people,

852
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: Oh what is it? All my hardy people, all my

853
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: arty people, all my farty uh something, all my party people,

854
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: all my there's some kind of farting. Yeah.

855
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 4: One time Maci did it was kind of like a

856
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 4: coffee reaction but with bath water. Yeah, and she took

857
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 4: up of bath water and shot the bath immediately, like

858
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 4: it just got to her and it was like they

859
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 4: thought it was fucking hilarious.

860
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: I had to clean it up.

861
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 4: I'm in there up to here in the bath, like

862
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: get ship out of the bath.

863
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: They love that ship.

864
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: One thing that you guys are talking about before we

865
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: started recording was waffle stomp.

866
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

867
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

868
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 3: It's not a diversity song, but it could be.

869
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's disgusting.

870
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 3: So here's the setting. The kid is in the bath

871
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: or the shower, Yeah, and they do poo and it's

872
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: the first time this has happened. No one teaches you

873
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 3: the correct way to remove the poo, and it's kind

874
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 3: of going down the drain a little bit, and you're

875
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: like kick it up or do I if it's kind

876
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 3: of going down, do you stomp it down? That's a

877
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Speaker 3: waffle stump. That was my I just remember kind of

878
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Speaker 3: laughing then also going well your barefoot No, no, no, no,

879
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Speaker 3: I think no, not.

880
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Speaker 1: You're in the shower on barefoot. I mean yeah, no,

881
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Speaker 1: I think.

882
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 3: I maybe just like got a glove and was doing

883
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Speaker 3: it with a glove or something. But that's the thing,

884
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 3: like what you just don't get taught those kind of things.

885
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: Well, when Macy did.

886
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Speaker 4: A poo in the bath, I think it took a

887
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 4: photo and sentence to you. It was so hard that

888
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 4: it wouldn't waffle stumps. I had to pick it up.

889
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: I mean, that's better if you can just pick it up.

890
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: But I think maybe the first time it happened, it

891
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 3: was separating everywhere, and then I was like, I can't

892
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: pick that up.

893
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: Separate.

894
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that was a kind of funny, funny challenge

895
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: that at the time was stressful, but then after the fact,

896
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: I was like, that is just such a bizarre thing

897
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Speaker 3: that you have to deal with.

898
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Speaker 4: Laura and I were talking about wafflestomping when You're away

899
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 4: and we were just like, how did someone just come

900
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Speaker 4: up with that word wafflestop?

901
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Speaker 3: Nick told me the word. I didn't know. I was

902
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 3: just explaining what I did, and he was like, you're, yeah, great.

903
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Speaker 2: That could be a song the Waffleston do the wafflestock.

904
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Speaker 1: What do the drop would be like on that.

905
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Speaker 3: It'd be like something, don't drink their bath water. Don't

906
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 3: drink their bath.

907
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Speaker 2: If you haven't listened to any diversity. And I'm not

908
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: just saying this and being polite because kop is in

909
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 2: front of me. It is amazing, It is so so

910
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: good we've been. There was a while there where I

911
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: was I was following you to a lot of gigs.

912
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Speaker 1: I love me.

913
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: I were both like, it's sorry about that.

914
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Speaker 3: I mean, we write the music for grown ups and

915
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 3: little kids, because I think that was the other reason

916
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: why we started it is I just couldn't listen to

917
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 3: the same kids music over and over again.

918
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: It was faced with a couple of beers, old dance

919
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: or anything so great.

920
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 3: I recommend Weekend Baby is a starting point for you.

921
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 1: Sweet that sounds that sounds like me? Weekend Baby. Yeah,

922
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: I did cry a lot on the weekend anyway.

923
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Speaker 2: Moving Is there anything that Marley and I know a

924
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Speaker 2: lot of parents must be like, my child is such

925
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Speaker 2: a performer. But Marley is such a performer.

926
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Speaker 4: She shut on bearings do that.

927
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: She's she's really really talented, and she asked us about that.

928
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: She will also listen to a song once and she

929
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: just learns the words so quickly. She just gets it.

930
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: Is there anything that I can do without being like

931
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Speaker 2: a stage mom slash day I can do to encourage

932
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 2: that musical talent, which I know was there.

933
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Speaker 3: I mean we were just surrounded by music. Yeah, I

934
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 3: mean I learned flute when I was a kid. I

935
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 3: went to a performing arts high school. I just did

936
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: like the amount of driving around my parents did to

937
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 3: dancing and singing lessons and all of that stuff.

938
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Speaker 1: Give it a crack.

939
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Speaker 4: I think she'd love it.

940
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Speaker 2: We'll be there.

941
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: I wonder what he dances, funny, such.

942
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Speaker 2: A supportive parent.

943
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Speaker 1: He dances like my dad. It's god.

944
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Speaker 2: Kop. One thing that we ask all, I guess to

945
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Speaker 2: wrap up an interview is what would you like your

946
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Speaker 2: your daughters Sienna and Monty to remember about the house

947
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Speaker 2: that they grew up in?

948
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Speaker 3: Hmmm? I would like them to remember it as a safe,

949
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 3: but really fun place. Is that a boring?

950
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Speaker 2: Not at all wholesome?

951
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 4: I thought it would be like music fun, of course,

952
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 4: like you wanted to remember.

953
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just being able to dance silly, like we

954
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: do have dance Like we throw on music and we've

955
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: got a little light that flashes, and we often have

956
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 3: dance parties where we just dance around living.

957
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Speaker 2: Do the kids prefer your music or nix?

958
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 3: Oh it's mixed, but I'm definitely making more music these days,

959
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 3: so they probably hear mine more. But they're harsh. They're

960
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: really harsh critics.

961
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Speaker 4: They don't Yeah, they don't really understand sarcasm and that

962
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 4: I don't understand what it's really like to be critically mean.

963
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but they do. They like it. I mean,

964
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Speaker 3: Sienna is really into dance music. She always requests scrill

965
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 3: X rumble, you know, yeah, killers in the jungle, she

966
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 3: requests that all.

967
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: The time in the car as well.

968
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Speaker 1: It's the best in the car.

969
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Speaker 3: That's where she requests it.

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00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

971
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: Maybe again.

972
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 3: My kids are all about yeah, Dave.

973
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Speaker 2: I was like.

974
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Speaker 1: At the documentary, now it just sounds like a v G.

975
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kop, thank you so much.

976
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me spending.

977
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Speaker 2: The morning with us today. And we will put show

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Speaker 2: notes in this episode. So if you do want to

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Speaker 2: come along and check out Diversity or KAlP gigs you

980
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: can you can pick and choose. Yes, we'll put it

981
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Speaker 2: in there. But thank you so much.

982
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Speaker 3: Thank you.

983
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're my favorite part ash of this record with Kop.

984
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Speaker 2: A little video I made a mistake day. I asked

985
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Speaker 2: Kope to do a video for Mali and I was like, yeah,

986
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Speaker 2: make it for Mali, Lola. You forgot to put Lola

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Speaker 2: in there.

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Speaker 1: You're a terrible parent.

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Speaker 2: Hey, if you want to check out Diversity tour dates

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Speaker 2: and music in the show notes.

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Speaker 4: If you've enjoyed this episode, please like, subscribe, believe with

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Speaker 4: a review, join.

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Speaker 2: Us on social media.

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Speaker 4: Please suggest any other parents, mom's, dad's grandparents, their father.

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Speaker 2: Couple of grannies. What's that? What?

996
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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 6: Just the way it came out of your mouth. It

998
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Speaker 6: didn't come out weird, but we'd love to hear from

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Speaker 6: them all. Let's get out of here by.

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Speaker 1: Two.

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Speaker 2: Doting Dance Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout

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Speaker 2: Australia and the connections to land, sea and community.

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Speaker 4: We pay our respects to their elders past and present

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Speaker 4: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestraight Islander

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Speaker 4: people's today