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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the

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Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers.

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Speaker 2: Now, I guess a tip for moms in particular is

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Speaker 2: not necessarily believing your.

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Speaker 3: Children when they say they know exactly where it all lives.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've actually learned that there's two very important words

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Speaker 4: to say right then, and that is show me.

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Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mum

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Speaker 5: Could I everyone?

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Speaker 4: This is doctor Justin Courson here with Kylie, my wife

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Speaker 4: from Under our six kids. I'm the author of six

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Speaker 4: and we're growing a new one. They're almost seven books.

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Speaker 4: I'm almost halfway through my I thought.

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Speaker 3: We were growing a new baby.

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Speaker 2: Getting scared for a second there, the way I said that,

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Speaker 2: it could have been a little bit confusing.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you making.

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Speaker 3: Me well six and six okay, horrify.

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Speaker 4: So we're the parents have six kids, and I'm the

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Speaker 4: author of six books, and I'm growing a new book.

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Speaker 2: Normally you don't grow a book. Normally you write. Your

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Speaker 2: wording was scaring me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, while I was trying to be funny, and I

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Speaker 4: realized that maybe I was a little too. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you're not You're not you're not okay, great, well, we're

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Speaker 4: not growing anything other than a new book and.

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Speaker 5: Daily podcasts Kylie.

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Speaker 4: Today, I thought, with school going back, we should probably

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Speaker 4: have a conversation about something that that a lot of

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Speaker 4: parents start to worry about when it's time to get

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Speaker 2: After a long break, especially over the Christmas break, there's

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Speaker 2: been no routine. Everybody slept in till when they want

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Speaker 5: Right, if you've got little kids, they're still up track

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Speaker 4: But our kids now that they're starting to get bigger,

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Speaker 5: It's like there's a life to live out here. Kids

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Speaker 2: But over the years, the biggest challenge we have after

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Speaker 2: you've had that break is getting back into the school routine,

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Speaker 2: getting those mornings working so that everything else runs smoothly.

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Speaker 4: And we've found our children have gotten older mornings kind

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Speaker 4: they've got to get up. We might give them a

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Speaker 4: their own lunches, they're making their own breakfasts, they're getting dressed,

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Speaker 4: they're doing all the basic stuff they need to do

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Speaker 5: But prior to the age of ten, it's kind of

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Speaker 2: Well, it's very hands on for parents. And I'm saying

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Speaker 2: homd that makes it easier for eaven It does make

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Speaker 2: it easier, but it's still full on, especially the more

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So we over the years have worked very, very

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Speaker 4: And we've come up with a formula for parents of

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Speaker 3: So let's talk about it.

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Speaker 4: So for those who are not familiar with what's in

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Speaker 4: twenty one days to a happy family in the bucket metaphor, basically,

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Speaker 4: your relationship is a bucket, and our job is to

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Speaker 4: So the water is represented by connection and the air, well,

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Speaker 4: that's correction and direction. And so the question pretty much

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Speaker 5: And I think as we sort of.

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Speaker 4: You know, we'll talk about the morning routines and stuff

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Speaker 5: And we wonder why our relationships allows you in the mornings.

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Speaker 2: Well, we find our children kind of you know, get

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Speaker 4: So that's where that metaphor comes from and I reckon

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Speaker 2: When you think about all of the things that you're

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Speaker 2: do all of the enormous list of ongoing chores that

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Speaker 5: See how I let you just cut me off and

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Speaker 2: You did?

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Speaker 5: let's talk about how to make our morning's magic.

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Speaker 4: It's the Happy Family's Podcast. I'm doctor Justin Colson here

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Speaker 4: with missus Happy Families. Kylie Colson, my wife and mum

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Speaker 4: to our sick kids, and we're talking about how to

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Speaker 5: And I think it's.

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Speaker 4: Fair to say that we've had our fair share of

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Speaker 4: pretty average mornings, which is why we're pretty passionate about

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Speaker 4: getting mornings right. What do you reckon are the integral

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Speaker 2: Well, you talk specifically about four different things that we

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Speaker 3: Do you want to unpack that for us a little bit?

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Speaker 4: So we know that if we can get everything organized

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Speaker 4: in reasonable shape. But more than that, it's specifically the

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Speaker 3: Or a school bag or their lunchbox.

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Speaker 4: to do that the night before. It just means that

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Speaker 2: And I guess a tip for mums in particular or

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Speaker 4: Learned that there's two very important words to say right then,

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Speaker 3: So definitely has had such.

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Speaker 2: A significant impact on making our mornings move forward in

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Speaker 2: positive ways when we have done that preparation the night before.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now, if you want to go over the top,

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Speaker 4: but we both know that it works supremely well.

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Speaker 5: We actually put together a breakfast.

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Speaker 5: They just open the fridge and stare at it for

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Speaker 4: that's kind of going over the top for some parents,

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Speaker 2: Definitely, And I think in the early early stages there

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Speaker 2: it that they are very much independent in relation to that.

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Speaker 2: So I guess one of the other things that we've

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so most of the time when we wake the

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Speaker 1: You just wake up?

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Speaker 4: This is the fifth time I told you, You're ten

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Speaker 5: And nobody likes those kinds of wake ups.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I ever had that. It was just

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Speaker 3: they turned the light on.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, turn the light on to get up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that sort of stuff just doesn't work well. And

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Speaker 4: so if you want to have magic morning with connection

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Speaker 4: rather than correction and direction, I reckon, go and sit

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Speaker 4: give them a hug, let them know that you love them,

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Speaker 5: What can I do to help?

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Speaker 2: And so then your last one, justin you talk about

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Speaker 2: the need to not tell our children what to do,

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Speaker 3: How does that actually work?

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Speaker 4: So so much of our mornings, would you hurry up?

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Speaker 4: Why haven't you done this? Go and get this for me,

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Speaker 3: To come along.

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Speaker 2: That being me, sometimes I'll recognize and say that they

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Speaker 5: I love listening to you. I reckon, we should do

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Speaker 5: this podcast more often.

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Speaker 3: Well, I really enjoy speaking with you.

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Speaker 4: We really hope that this has been a helpful episode

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Speaker 4: as you try to make your morning's magic. Can get

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Speaker 4: set for a brand new school year. Queensland supposed to

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Speaker 4: be back at school already, but that's not quite happening yet.

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Speaker 4: We wait with haited breath here in the Sunshine State

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Speaker 5: Extended for and for the rest of us the country.

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Speaker 4: Pretty much almost everyone's back next week, all things going well,

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Speaker 4: Fingers crossed The Happy Families podcast is produced by Justin

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Speaker 4: Ruland from Bridge Media.

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Speaker 5: Craig Bruce is our executive producer. If you'd like more

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