WEBVTT - BEST OF: Motivation 🏆

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<v Speaker 1>Sam, what do you get asked about most when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to getting in shape. The answer isn't pushups. The

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<v Speaker 1>answer isn't how do I get a six pack? The

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<v Speaker 1>answer isn't should I shouldn't eat this? It's how do

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<v Speaker 1>I get motivated? So I've brought together to awesome episodes

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<v Speaker 1>that I've absolutely loved doing this year where motivation has

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<v Speaker 1>been the focus. I had the absolute pleasure through the

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<v Speaker 1>course of this year of speaking with two very very

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<v Speaker 1>strong minded, independent, motivating women, Jana Pittman and Sabrina Fredrick.

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<v Speaker 1>So Yana many of you will know her, she's a

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<v Speaker 1>jewel Olympian. She gave me this great little trick on

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<v Speaker 1>combating self doubt and how she managed to conquer so

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<v Speaker 1>many huge life goals in such a short amount of time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm talking about huge goals. Nothing this woman cannot do.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Sabrina Frederick, who's a professional footballer from Collingwood.

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<v Speaker 1>She has some non negotiable routines and mindset habits that

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<v Speaker 1>she does before every single game. It's probably the most

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<v Speaker 1>likely reason that she completed the grueling SAS Australia test.

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<v Speaker 1>Jana also was an SAS. We could call this the

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<v Speaker 1>SAS episode. Anyway, lots to learn, lots of motivation from

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<v Speaker 1>these two incredible women that's coming up on the Good Life.

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<v Speaker 1>Really excited to chat to our guests now, which is

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<v Speaker 1>none other than the incredible athlete duel Olympian across winter

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<v Speaker 1>and Summer Olympics Supermum Janna Pittman. Welcome to the wood

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<v Speaker 1>Life and thank you so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thanks Sam, that was a lovely intro.

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<v Speaker 1>I am genuinely inspired by you, and it's interesting I

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<v Speaker 1>thought back to when I first was thinking of you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were famous for your incredible athletics career, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're a fairly polarizing figureback then, and it

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<v Speaker 1>never seemed to wavery you. You know, you were so

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<v Speaker 1>tough and determined, and I'm sure you had your moments

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<v Speaker 1>behind closed doors, but of course, you know, I always

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<v Speaker 1>used to think, God, this woman is just as tough

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<v Speaker 1>as nails. And you know I've read before that you

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<v Speaker 1>said your father was sort of the inspiration or the

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<v Speaker 1>driving force perhaps behind this motivating mindset that you have.

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<v Speaker 1>But can you share a little bit more, perhaps to

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners that are thinking, God, I wish I had

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<v Speaker 1>just five percent of Janna's mindset, and perhaps I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>kicking a bit more ass.

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<v Speaker 3>I like it, Sam, Look, yes, I think I think

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<v Speaker 3>I have to preface that by saying that my resilience

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<v Speaker 3>and my mindset has changed and wavered over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>I am absolutely human, and I've had multiple times where

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<v Speaker 3>I struggled to get out of bed in the morning

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<v Speaker 3>just because I've taken on too much or I've lost

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<v Speaker 3>faith in myself. So I think for me, yes, my

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<v Speaker 3>father was an absolute role model for me in life.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a gunner right from the beginning. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he always worked hard. He worked Christmas Day, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>we regularly not even have a Christmas lunch with him

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<v Speaker 3>because the guy was a builder out on the building

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<v Speaker 3>side and he would be actually constructing houses. And he

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<v Speaker 3>was just so focused on success. And I think in

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<v Speaker 3>some ways it's a positive and a negative, Sam, because

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<v Speaker 3>I think you grow up with the idea of what

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<v Speaker 3>you want to achieve in your life, and then sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>when you fall short of that, it can be quite debilitating.

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<v Speaker 3>So for me, the greatest I think, the most success

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<v Speaker 3>I've had in my career has actually been after athletics,

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<v Speaker 3>So sport was great. I think A lot of that

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<v Speaker 3>comes back to genetics and luck, but it's the things

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<v Speaker 3>I've pursued subsequently, you know, trying to be a doctor,

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<v Speaker 3>having babies by myself through sperm donation at one point,

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<v Speaker 3>and then obviously now clocking over to six kids this.

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<v Speaker 2>Year will be an extraordinary challenge.

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<v Speaker 3>But they come about because many years ago I had

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<v Speaker 3>to actually stop and look at my mindset and realize

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<v Speaker 3>that it was offskew, and a lot of that negative

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<v Speaker 3>media you're talking about, and some of the things that

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<v Speaker 3>I'd done wrong in my life, I think really humbled

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<v Speaker 3>me to realize I needed to find some self acceptance,

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<v Speaker 3>and once I found that, I was able to grow

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<v Speaker 3>from that. So we often you know, I do a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of public speaking these days, and we talk about

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<v Speaker 3>growth mindsets and things like that. But for me, it

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<v Speaker 3>was actually breaking down who I was as a person

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<v Speaker 3>and rebuilding from there and accepting that some of the

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<v Speaker 3>things that other people don't like are actually my strengths

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<v Speaker 3>and the reason why I'm successful. So for those people

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<v Speaker 3>out there who might be thinking, wow, she's taken on

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<v Speaker 3>the world, and you know, I can't be her because

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<v Speaker 3>she does all these amazing things, it was actually realizing

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<v Speaker 3>that I love being busy, accepting that I'm not always

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<v Speaker 3>around with family and kids, and being comfortable with that,

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<v Speaker 3>but also accepting that I'm going to fail. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>almost like once once you get over that fact and

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<v Speaker 3>you realize it's going to happen whether you like it

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<v Speaker 3>or not, you then don't get as fixated on those

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<v Speaker 3>results that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that I think. I think that's something that

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<v Speaker 1>will relate to so many of our listeners. I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>you to share perhaps your thoughts on goal setting.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. I reckon we we should debate this one a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, because I'm sure you've got lots of great

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<v Speaker 3>ideas around this. And it's funny because if I put

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<v Speaker 3>the athlete hat on, so for many years, and so

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<v Speaker 3>many of the young athletes out there, or anyone, as

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<v Speaker 3>you say, with a five kilo goal or whatever it

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<v Speaker 3>is that they're trying to pursue in life often gets

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<v Speaker 3>so fixated. I think you mentioned that a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>before too with the blinkers on when I was a

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<v Speaker 3>younger athlete. But you get so strongly fixated on a

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<v Speaker 3>goal that therefore, when things go astray, you have the

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<v Speaker 3>tendency to fall off the wagon. And maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 3>eat that mass bar rather than sticking to the goal

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<v Speaker 3>of little bits incremental you know, changes make the difference.

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<v Speaker 3>So I makes it completely different from the average person

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to goal setting. I am someone who

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<v Speaker 3>believes in having five or six goals all at once,

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<v Speaker 3>and I figure, if one of them fails, I'll just

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<v Speaker 3>lean on the next one. So it's that whole one

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<v Speaker 3>door closes, the next one open. So that's actually how

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<v Speaker 3>I've got through all the failures in my life, failed marriages, miscarriages,

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<v Speaker 3>lost the Olympics, all that kind of stuff, because I

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<v Speaker 3>always had a concurrent love running alongside my main goal.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I would simply and maybe this is a

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<v Speaker 3>skill I don't know, I would just simply skip focus.

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<v Speaker 3>So I change from focus on sport to focus on medicine,

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<v Speaker 3>or if medicine is not going too well and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>being yelled at by the bosses at work, focus on

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<v Speaker 3>the children and a goal we have there. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's it does make a busy life, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think just throwing yourself into multiple eggs, you know, having

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<v Speaker 3>multiple eggs in one basket, which a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>who say goal setting is not a good thing they

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<v Speaker 3>say you have to be focused and committed to that

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<v Speaker 3>one goal. Well, I tell them, well, I don't agree

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<v Speaker 3>with you. So what do you think? Are you a single,

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<v Speaker 3>sole focused goal setter or a let's have multiple balls

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<v Speaker 3>in the wagon and protect yourself a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with having one or two horses in the race,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm probably I like things to stay simple from

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<v Speaker 1>a process perspective, I think people complicate things, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>with having too many goals, but having too many processes

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<v Speaker 1>for them to focus on at once, and therefore getting

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit overwhelmed or lost along the way. That

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big believer with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that makes sense, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be frank with you, I've never heard

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<v Speaker 1>that theory before. That's quite That's a revelation. It is,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm giving myself sixty seconds to digest it and

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<v Speaker 1>actually get my head around it, because what a fascinating outlook.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people I agree with you would

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<v Speaker 1>argue if you're spreading yourself too thin and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>too many balls in the air at once, that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be it's going to be detrimental to any of

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<v Speaker 1>them potentially landing. But someone like you, who's obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just something we've been told.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is, yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't think it's just me, sdam I reckon, it's something

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<v Speaker 3>we've been grown up and told that don't take on

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<v Speaker 3>too much. Now I'm not saying take on killer goals

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<v Speaker 3>five or six of them at one time, but I

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<v Speaker 3>just feel like I need my emotional energy to shift

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<v Speaker 3>in different areas. So I can sit down for four

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<v Speaker 3>or five hours and study, but then I need to

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<v Speaker 3>shift to my fitness goal, and then I need to

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<v Speaker 3>shift to my parental goal, because if I then't have areas,

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<v Speaker 3>it's almost like you're rebooting your system every time you

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<v Speaker 3>change to the next goal. But the biggest time is

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<v Speaker 3>when it's protective when something fails. So it's funny because

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<v Speaker 3>my vivid memory of the twenty fourteen qualifications for the

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<v Speaker 3>Winter Olympic Games, and I'd put my total ass on

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<v Speaker 3>the line by announcing to the public, you know that

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to be the first female summer Winter Olympian

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<v Speaker 3>double and it came down to this one race. I

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<v Speaker 3>had to push off the top of this ice hill,

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<v Speaker 3>and if I didn't push, well, that was it. I

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<v Speaker 3>could go home with tail between my legs, and I

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<v Speaker 3>remember getting so nervous standing at the top, going I

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<v Speaker 3>can't do this, I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 2>What if I fail? What if I bugger it?

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<v Speaker 3>Da all that, you know, that little mental chatter that

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<v Speaker 3>can happen in anybody's life. And then I had that

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<v Speaker 3>split moment where I said, but it doesn't matter because

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<v Speaker 3>you're in second year of medical school, so you'll go

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<v Speaker 3>home and become a doctor. And I thought, oh yeah, sweet,

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<v Speaker 3>and all the nerves just flew out of the way

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<v Speaker 3>because I realized it's not my only goal. It's a huge,

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<v Speaker 3>important thing that I want to achieve, but it's not

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So what about from a motivation mindset perspective, you seem

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<v Speaker 1>to be this person who you know, I can't isn't

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<v Speaker 1>in your vocabulary? Where does that come from? And if

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<v Speaker 1>there are people out there who that's not just in

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<v Speaker 1>their vocabulary, it's probably the most often term that they use,

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<v Speaker 1>how do they get that out of their system? And

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<v Speaker 1>what's your advice to them.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a few things yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Firstly, for the first time I reckon in my life recently,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been sitting there going I don't know how I'm going.

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<v Speaker 1>To cope my car, So that's nice, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It was vivid. The other day.

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<v Speaker 3>I was lying on the bed. I'm not coping with

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<v Speaker 3>this twin pregnancy as well as I hope. So my

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<v Speaker 3>superhuman motherhood powers are debilitating at times, and I'm in

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<v Speaker 3>eight tired fatigue with saw legs and a saw tummy

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<v Speaker 3>and thinking how on earth am I going to cope

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<v Speaker 3>with twins and an eighteen month old and my kids

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<v Speaker 3>and my career and realizing that something's got to give.

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<v Speaker 3>So I am a big believer that you can have

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<v Speaker 3>it all. You just can't have it all the time

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time. So it's prioritizing what things are

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<v Speaker 3>most important. So where are you going to throw your motivation?

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<v Speaker 3>And certainly I do agree with you. The word I

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<v Speaker 3>can't is something I've worked very strongly since I was

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<v Speaker 3>young person to not have as part of my vocabulary.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's funny you say that because my children say

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<v Speaker 3>I can't, And the first thing I said to them is, sweety,

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<v Speaker 3>let's change that I can do this, but I need

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<v Speaker 3>mummies help, or I can do this. And we'd have

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<v Speaker 3>that conversation two or three times a day. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>something I've had ingrained in me as a young person

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<v Speaker 3>for a very long time, and I do it with

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<v Speaker 3>my children now. So I guess for your listeners, it

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<v Speaker 3>is something you can encourage in your children to change

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<v Speaker 3>that mindset. Before the age of seven, they say, is

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<v Speaker 3>when you can really put those inroads to sort of

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<v Speaker 3>form those neural patterns in the brain. But one how

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<v Speaker 3>I actually learned about it, because it wasn't something my

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<v Speaker 3>mum and dad taught me, was when I was in

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<v Speaker 3>my early twenties. I was working with this fantastic coach

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<v Speaker 3>that talked about how your brain is like a filing

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<v Speaker 3>cabinet and whatever you saw at the front of it

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<v Speaker 3>is the thing you draw out first.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, whatever at the front drawer is the thing

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<v Speaker 2>you find first.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you have those conversations I can't or i'm

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<v Speaker 3>fat today, or I'm not able to cope with this,

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<v Speaker 3>if you keep reiterating that to yourself, it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be the file that you take out every time you're

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<v Speaker 3>faced with any challenge.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess we retrain that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wore a little elastic band for about a year,

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<v Speaker 3>and every time I said I can't or I you

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<v Speaker 3>know I'm going to fail at this. I would actually

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<v Speaker 3>snap that elastic band on my wrist and it would

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<v Speaker 3>have like a little bit I know it's ridiculous, but

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<v Speaker 3>it would short circuit that process in my brain and

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<v Speaker 3>I would try then to automatically replace it with something positive.

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<v Speaker 2>I will do this.

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<v Speaker 3>I will try to do this the sort of the

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<v Speaker 3>reverse of my current feeling, and to be honest, Sam,

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<v Speaker 3>over time it just became natural, so you know that

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<v Speaker 3>thought process is always still there. And don't get me

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<v Speaker 3>wrong on SAS Australia, there were multiple times where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, I can't do that, but then it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't an option.

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<v Speaker 1>I just did.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's almost it's a reprogramming and a retraining to

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<v Speaker 3>make you believe that nothing that's important will come easily,

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<v Speaker 3>but that you're just sabotaging yourself if you don't give

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<v Speaker 3>it a shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, usually when I have a guest in the studio,

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<v Speaker 1>I know exactly what we're going to talk about. But

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<v Speaker 1>my next guest we could honestly have an enthralling conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about a number of topics. I want to ask this

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<v Speaker 1>person about being a role model to so many young

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<v Speaker 1>Girls and AFLW Superstar sas Superstar Now podcast host Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the Woodlife, Sabrina Frederick. How are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm very well and what an intro.

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<v Speaker 1>You're obviously a big mindset person. I also know you're

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<v Speaker 1>a big visualization person and I wanted to just go

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<v Speaker 1>there for a little minute because you're a big, big

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<v Speaker 1>believer in it. Can you talk us through a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit what you do from a visualization perspective, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>from an AFLW standpoint, and then I'd love to know

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<v Speaker 1>does it transition into other areas of your life. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a two prong question for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it is a big one.

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<v Speaker 5>I think more and more people are getting into it

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<v Speaker 5>and realizing the power of it. I think it visualization

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<v Speaker 5>for me personally, is more about seeing yourself somewhere, which

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<v Speaker 5>then instills belief that you can actually be in that environment.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't necessarily think that it's painting an exact picture

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<v Speaker 5>of what you want to happen, because things change all

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<v Speaker 5>the time. For me, it's more about what am I feeling,

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<v Speaker 5>what am I doing when I'm my best? So in

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<v Speaker 5>terms of a football game, it's being around my teammates,

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<v Speaker 5>and if I can envision getting around them and goals

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<v Speaker 5>being scored and me being in the middle of it

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<v Speaker 5>and them being around me. It's that feeling that I

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<v Speaker 5>get from the sport that I visualize and the passages

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<v Speaker 5>of play that sort of get me there. I think

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes people mistake visualization for playing out a game in

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<v Speaker 5>your head a thousand times over in different scenarios. That's

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<v Speaker 5>completely different, and to be honest, so that would probably

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<v Speaker 5>really exhaust met a game a thousand times before I've

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<v Speaker 5>even played it, or just visualizing those moments. I guess

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<v Speaker 5>going back to your why why you do things is

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<v Speaker 5>for me, the reason why I play football is the

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<v Speaker 5>love of the sport, but also the connection to my teammates.

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<v Speaker 5>So me playing at my best is me in those environments.

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<v Speaker 5>And when I go out onto the ground before games,

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<v Speaker 5>I really do try and envision myself in certain parts

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<v Speaker 5>of the ground in those moments, and then it's crazy

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<v Speaker 5>when it unfolds in some circumstances and you just think, wow,

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<v Speaker 5>like a couple hours ago, I was really thinking that,

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<v Speaker 5>and that really unfolded, and it instills that belief that

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<v Speaker 5>it's in you to get to that point. In terms

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<v Speaker 5>of translating that out of football into the rest of

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<v Speaker 5>my life. I'm a huge believer in visualizing what you

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<v Speaker 5>want for your life. I think that football is just

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<v Speaker 5>a part of me. It doesn't define me. It's just

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<v Speaker 5>something that I do and it makes me a better person.

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<v Speaker 5>But even coming back to, you know, being a parent.

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<v Speaker 5>More recently, I've been visualizing my first moments with her

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<v Speaker 5>when she's born, or my first moments of when she

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<v Speaker 5>can run around? What am I going to be doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Am I going to be out there and full of energy?

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<v Speaker 5>And sort of living out those moments as well. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think it can. It definitely can translate into different

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<v Speaker 5>parts of your life. And I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>people sort of like, is this magic or.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, spookyrself, spiritual, whatever you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think it's more just that stuff that makes

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<v Speaker 5>you feel good. Why would you not want to feel

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<v Speaker 5>that before it's happened. So I think it's more just

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<v Speaker 5>living out those moments that make you feel good, instilling

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<v Speaker 5>belief that you can achieve those things, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 5>if it happens, it happens.

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<v Speaker 1>But for me, it's worked, So it's similar to what

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<v Speaker 1>is happening to the contemporary version of meditation, like people

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<v Speaker 1>who have now worked out you can meditate in a

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<v Speaker 1>myriad of ways. You've got to find the right form

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<v Speaker 1>of meditation to you. And you know, you see visualization

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<v Speaker 1>and it absolutely works, but it'd be different for every person. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone has their own in repretation of it, and it

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<v Speaker 1>has to feel right. If you're cynical about it or

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<v Speaker 1>you're skeptical about it, it's never going to break through.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, no, because then it's becoming a force thing, and

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<v Speaker 5>you never want it to be forced, especially visualization, because

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<v Speaker 5>that whole process is filled with emotion and I guess

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<v Speaker 5>passion and that feeling of what success means for you.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think if it becomes a chore, then you're

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<v Speaker 5>almost doing the complete opposite of what that feeling is

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<v Speaker 5>trying to achieve. So yeah, like you said, it is

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<v Speaker 5>basically a form of meditation because you're taking time away

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<v Speaker 5>from reality and giving time to yourself. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>every single person has a right to mess with it

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<v Speaker 5>and sort of figure out what is the best for them,

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<v Speaker 5>because in end the day, that's the person that you

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<v Speaker 5>want it to work for. So no, everyone can sit

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<v Speaker 5>cross legged for you know, twenty minutes and meditate, no

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<v Speaker 5>noise or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I don't even think I could do that.

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<v Speaker 5>I think for me, I've tried different practices and over time,

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<v Speaker 5>and trying is the big key thing here is you

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<v Speaker 5>don't know until you try. So even for you, like

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<v Speaker 5>you said, you've never really gotten into visualization.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what I have, I just haven't realized.

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<v Speaker 1>It hasn't been a conscious practice. Yeah it's been. I

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<v Speaker 1>do it with business and I do it with family. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and perhaps not. You know, we don't have a game everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's your life. I don't have a game with my

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<v Speaker 1>family game every weekend, so I perhaps don't do it

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<v Speaker 1>on those that. When you do it for footy, is

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<v Speaker 1>it the same amount of time? Is it? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have a particular like do you have to give yourself

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<v Speaker 1>in a particular state? Do you do it just pregame?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do it the night before?

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<v Speaker 5>In terms of pregame, I do do it normally when

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<v Speaker 5>I walk out onto the ground because we will get

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<v Speaker 5>there a couple of hours before the game, So my

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<v Speaker 5>initial period of walking out into a ground, I will

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<v Speaker 5>always have a moment to myself. So I do that

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<v Speaker 5>every single game. But then it's sort of free flowing.

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<v Speaker 5>Like the night before this sometimes where I really can't

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<v Speaker 5>sleep or whatever, and I'll just tap into that. I'll

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<v Speaker 5>just sit there, eyes closed and just visualize something, or

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<v Speaker 5>you know, there might just be something that triggers you,

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<v Speaker 5>and like I might be watching a game and a

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<v Speaker 5>moment might happen and I'm thinking, I just want.

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<v Speaker 1>To in another game, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm no, no, no, that was last week. I'll be

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<v Speaker 5>watching a game and I will see something happen in

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<v Speaker 5>the game, and I'll think, like it's just triggered me

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<v Speaker 5>and the feeling of playing, and I just think, I

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<v Speaker 5>just want to harness that for a moment. I just

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<v Speaker 5>want to take that moment, how I'm feeling watching that

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<v Speaker 5>and translate that into how I'm playing. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 5>so I turn up to a game and I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>feel like doing it, I wouldn't do it, like coming

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<v Speaker 5>back to that chore thing. I'd never want it to

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<v Speaker 5>feel like I have to do something to achieve something,

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<v Speaker 5>because for me, that's the whole point.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for joining me on this bonus episode

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<v Speaker 1>of motivation. If you have any tips to share on

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<v Speaker 1>how to stay motivated, i'd love to hear from you. You

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<v Speaker 1>can always leave me a little voice message in the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes. And if you love today's episode and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to listen to the full episode of Janna or Sabrina,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you head back into your podcast feed the

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<v Speaker 1>full episode and many many more in there. Great thing

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to over your holiday break. I'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you soon.