Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms. Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
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Speaker 1: Should we assume that everyone loves us?
Speaker 2: If we haven't been given bad feedback, it's come from
Speaker 2: a TikTok by Delara.
Speaker 1: Listen to this.
Speaker 4: This is your friendly reminder that unless someone indicates that
Speaker 4: they have a problem with you, you're going to assume
Speaker 4: that there is no problem because it's not your responsibility
Speaker 4: to guess what someone else's problem is. It's their responsibility
Speaker 4: to communicate that problem to you.
Speaker 3: Well, the anxiety gillies are gonna hate this one.
Speaker 2: You know what, because this sounds like something I would say,
Speaker 2: This sounds very flex coded, but even I'm like, it's
Speaker 2: not that simple. If I know one thing about people
Speaker 2: is that at our core, we are irrational and often
Speaker 2: act out of alignment with what matches the situation. So like,
Speaker 2: you know, when you really need a company, you push
Speaker 2: people away. When you really want someone to like look
Speaker 2: out for you, you act like you don't need any help.
Speaker 2: It's like all this stuff, it's caterintuitive. I can say,
Speaker 2: for the sake of like your anxiety, it's nice to
Speaker 2: be like, if they haven't told me, then you know,
Speaker 2: let me not worry about tomorrow's problems, like, let me
Speaker 2: just wait until I know for a fact.
Speaker 1: But I don't think we control ourselves like that.
Speaker 2: I also think it's a slippery slope to tell people
Speaker 2: unless it's been said explicitly it's not your problem, because
Speaker 2: so much is implicit and covert and requires you to
Speaker 2: pick up on signals and signs to get it across.
Speaker 2: And if you're lucky, you get an admission of truth.
Speaker 2: But even like like let's say, have a problem for me,
Speaker 2: and I'm coming to you, I'm workshopping, like I don't
Speaker 2: even know what the problem is yet, And so how
Speaker 2: many times will I allow myself to workshop? Or how
Speaker 2: many times will you make it comfortable enough for me
Speaker 2: to workshop before I'm like, yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: didn't need that at all.
Speaker 1: I think I'm a little bit.
Speaker 2: Off any kind of advice or feedback that gives us
Speaker 2: the impression that we can do stuff on our own constantly, yeah,
Speaker 2: Or that we're so separated and isolated that we don't
Speaker 2: need to rely on people, or that other people aren't
Speaker 2: our problem, or that if they can't say it, then
Speaker 2: it's on them.
Speaker 1: Because I definitely felt that way when I.
Speaker 2: Was twenty, you know, to twenty five. And then you're like, wait,
Speaker 2: that's not true, because I've needed people and not asked,
Speaker 2: or I've needed help and not asked and wish someone
Speaker 2: would have offered, or whatever.
Speaker 3: Well I would like, And I tried to cultivate an
Speaker 3: environment where we are one hundred percent across the feelings.
Speaker 1: At all times.
Speaker 3: It can be a bit of a mental load if
Speaker 3: you're not used to it. But all of my best friends,
Speaker 3: if there's even the slightest little hint of weirdness, we
Speaker 3: have a trust system where we can happily talk about
Speaker 3: that without it being too much. And if you don't
Speaker 3: understand that, yeah, then we can't be friends.
Speaker 1: Like that, and it's a tricky one and.
Speaker 3: You also need to pick your battles. Like I do
Speaker 3: have friends, this is it, but they're just not my
Speaker 3: close friends, like my inner inner circle of really good friends.
Speaker 3: Understand that if I'm asking if you're mad at me,
Speaker 3: and you know you're not, I need support, right, You're
Speaker 3: not going to scoff at me. I need sup You're
Speaker 3: not going to say I'm being crazy. You're going to say,
Speaker 3: no way, I love you.
Speaker 1: You're being insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people do that.
Speaker 2: I also feel like, let your people have mood swings,
Speaker 2: because there's one thing about me. I'm a moody girl,
Speaker 2: and I also be friend moody girls. And sometimes you
Speaker 2: just can't take it personally. Like let's say I'm having
Speaker 2: an off day, and then you assume, because I haven't said.
Speaker 1: What it's explicitly about, let's pretend it's not happening. That's
Speaker 1: not helpful.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 2: I feel like acknowledge and if you acknowledge isn't taken, well,
Speaker 2: then you know.
Speaker 1: What to do. Wrap it up.
Speaker 3: Wrap it up?
Speaker 1: Sis, you go, what's going on for me? She says, oh, FLEXI,
Speaker 1: Oh you get into it. Get into it.
Speaker 3: We had a listener submission. Somebody sent us a DM
Speaker 3: via the Flex and Froom's Instagram, which, might I add,
Speaker 3: is popping off our produce. Mikayla and the various social
Speaker 3: media team that does the Flex and Rooms Instagram have
Speaker 3: been popping their bussy. I recently got access to the login,
Speaker 3: so if you want to send a personal message, please
Speaker 3: send it there. I will be reading it only if
Speaker 3: it's nice and our listener Georgia has sent in a
Speaker 3: bit of a thought starter for the girlies, which this
Speaker 3: is my favorite kind of message. She begins high, pretty
Speaker 3: princesses already kicking the box. Love the podcast with all
Speaker 3: my heart. Big discussion in the office today, I would
Speaker 3: love to hear your thoughts on would you rather companies
Speaker 3: pay to have the ads installed into your memory or
Speaker 3: prefer to actually have to watch the ads before any
Speaker 3: piece of content YouTube TV t took ITTs, assuming that
Speaker 3: if the ads are in your memory, you never actually
Speaker 3: have to endure watching them. Results here with fifty to fifty. Wow,
Speaker 3: this is an incredible question, Georgia, I love it. I
Speaker 3: want to start off by saying I studied advertising oh
Speaker 3: at university. Don't out yourself, that is who I am
Speaker 3: At the time, I didn't realize, Like I didn't know
Speaker 3: that you could study advertising. I went to UNI originally
Speaker 3: to do journalism, started doing journalism. First lecture, the lady says,
Speaker 3: if you want to be on TV, this isn't the
Speaker 3: course for you.
Speaker 1: So you left. Pack the bags, pack the note before
Speaker 1: the census date.
Speaker 3: Pack the notebooks that I diligently bought from office works
Speaker 3: into my.
Speaker 1: Little crumpler backpack.
Speaker 3: So this is not for me, and yeep back to
Speaker 3: Melbourne Central Station to go home to my care out here.
Speaker 1: It's horror. This isn't right.
Speaker 3: Literally, what do they mean? I imagine working so hard
Speaker 3: and spending so much money on a school to only
Speaker 3: find out that the course that you work so dil
Speaker 3: ged to get into it's.
Speaker 1: Not even relevant.
Speaker 3: But look at you now, look at me now. I
Speaker 3: did advertising, and I thought that advertised. I didn't think
Speaker 3: that people thought it was a bad thing. Like I
Speaker 3: thought advertising was creative and cool. People love ads. Little
Speaker 3: did I know in some of the lectures they'd be like,
Speaker 3: you know, people say ads are bad.
Speaker 1: I was like, what the manipulative God?
Speaker 3: Like, this is just fun. We're just like learning to
Speaker 3: draw pictures on photoshop.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's ads that people don't like or
Speaker 2: how almost like disruptive they can be, Like it takes
Speaker 2: you out of your favorite moment. It's berating you, one
Speaker 2: after the other after the other after the other.
Speaker 1: I feel like outdoor.
Speaker 2: Advertising isn't as disruptive as like digital advertising.
Speaker 3: Some people hate them. Some people think outdoor advertising I.
Speaker 1: Guess it ruins the landscape.
Speaker 2: We had all these beautiful trees, and now what do
Speaker 2: we see?
Speaker 1: Show me what we see, let me see.
Speaker 2: I think I would prefer them burned into my brain
Speaker 2: because there's nothing like feeling as though every good idea
Speaker 2: you have, of every.
Speaker 1: Inkling came from you and you alone.
Speaker 2: Like if I wake up one day and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I really want to sign up to that cool new
Speaker 2: I would love to feel as though just it's an
Speaker 2: idea that came came to and I'm just acting on
Speaker 2: my natural impulse. If I go and buy a new
Speaker 2: toilet cleaner, I'd love to feel like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: you're another one amazing, as opposed to being so like
Speaker 2: involved in the process. I think that's what I don't
Speaker 2: love about digital advertising sometimes is that everything has to
Speaker 2: feel like a choice, another choice, another choice.
Speaker 1: This ad, not this ad, skip this ad, watch this ad?
Speaker 1: Do I like this ad? What's this ad for? Did
Speaker 1: they even know? It's?
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, Like, we don't need it to
Speaker 2: be intentional for the desire to come anyway. I think
Speaker 2: that's my issue with it, you know, like so much
Speaker 2: of what I desire about life is unintentional, program subconscious,
Speaker 2: and I feel better about that.
Speaker 3: I personally would like to see all the ads. I
Speaker 3: love the creativity of the advertisers. I love seeing how
Speaker 3: much money is bringing.
Speaker 1: How do you love the jingle?
Speaker 3: I'm telling you jingles like what I wanted to be
Speaker 3: as a child, if not a presenter, was a jingle
Speaker 3: making a jingle. I've got them both downpath, So believe
Speaker 3: in your dreams. Study advertising, folks, and watch the ad.
Speaker 2: Can the creativity of advertising could be funneled into cinema
Speaker 2: and TV, because my goodness, why are we doing twenty
Speaker 2: six hundred hours of a TV show that is not
Speaker 2: concise and wrapped up? And ad can tell you everything
Speaker 2: you need to know about health insurance in fourteen seconds.
Speaker 3: That's why I need to become have a TV show
Speaker 3: the pipeline.
Speaker 2: No, but I'm serious, learn how to be articulate through
Speaker 2: making TV.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Flex and Frooms on Kaita.
Speaker 3: Mikayla, a much beloved producer, has sent me, oh she did,
Speaker 3: little Heart. Guys, when did these little hearts start happening
Speaker 3: with the fingerapops k pop? I know, but I'm just
Speaker 3: seeing every man in the dog do. I absolutely love
Speaker 3: these liks are cultured. It's amazing to me.
Speaker 1: A fair few too many.
Speaker 3: We just need to know, weirdly from her so much
Speaker 3: love with the little love heart hands and she's sent
Speaker 3: in this TikTok and it's quite an important question. I
Speaker 3: think most people in the audience need to know me.
Speaker 3: And it's a POV type thing, Guys, me trying to
Speaker 3: explain to literally every man that it's extremely important to
Speaker 3: post your GF from time to time, whether it be
Speaker 3: on a story or in an IG post, because it
Speaker 3: not only shows her off and makes her feel more
Speaker 3: confident and secure in a relationship, but it also is
Speaker 3: a heartfelt gesture that shows that you're not ashamed to
Speaker 3: be with her. It's just the assect of showing you
Speaker 3: appreciate her and not hiding her existent that's so crucial
Speaker 3: Micky as the token relationship girl in the podcast studio.
Speaker 3: It's me flex and Mikayla.
Speaker 1: Token relationship girl.
Speaker 2: She is y.
Speaker 3: Does your BF post things about you?
Speaker 5: Almost? His whole Instagram is me?
Speaker 2: Period?
Speaker 1: Stop it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I could show you. He has a little hat that
Speaker 5: says taken and he wears it everywhere. It's his favorite.
Speaker 3: Please show Yeah, I'll show you.
Speaker 5: I'll show you. Do you know what's funny? My ex
Speaker 5: boyfriend posted nith no no me and how long.
Speaker 3: Were you together?
Speaker 2: In?
Speaker 5: Two years?
Speaker 1: And at the time, what do you think that was?
Speaker 5: I don't think he wanted to why. I think he
Speaker 5: was ashamed of me. Oh, Mikayla, I do like, I'm
Speaker 5: resolved with it now.
Speaker 1: Oh you got taken. I'm fine with it now.
Speaker 5: We were doing long distance and I think he hated
Speaker 5: the fact that we were doing long distance.
Speaker 3: Was it your choice?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like, could have you been together? Were you inter state?
Speaker 3: What's the vibe?
Speaker 5: He didn't want to leave Melbourne nine did when I
Speaker 5: leave Sydney?
Speaker 1: Oh, so look, you're a punishment?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: My current boyfriend Justin is his name Justin?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: His name is taking hat Justin.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: He always wearing his all taken hat, his photos of
Speaker 5: us in taken hats.
Speaker 1: Who please, may I justin I'm obsessed with love my god.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he post photos me all the time. But do
Speaker 5: I think it's a requirement for him to post photos
Speaker 5: of me?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: No, I will say, I don't want to be that
Speaker 3: girl because I don't post fodders of my boyfriend. We'll
Speaker 3: talk to me say it, but I think it kind
Speaker 3: of is a red flag if you don't want to
Speaker 3: post them.
Speaker 5: Oh, one hundred percent red flag.
Speaker 3: Like, unless you're an influencer, money depends on you being
Speaker 3: single and loving it.
Speaker 2: Look, I will say one thing that I am trying
Speaker 2: to learn is to measure someone's behavior relative to who
Speaker 2: they are, not who you are. So for me, when
Speaker 2: I didn't post someone I was dating a lot, I
Speaker 2: know that dating me, i'd feel some kind of way
Speaker 2: because you post everything, the most mundane things.
Speaker 1: Why aren't you posting me?
Speaker 2: In my defense, the Internet is crazy and I don't
Speaker 2: think people can truly comprehend having one hundred different people
Speaker 2: message you about yourself. And maybe it's not fair to
Speaker 2: decide for people what they can and can't handle. But
Speaker 2: when I did end up posting him what happened. We're
Speaker 2: going to beat this out, so I will say.
Speaker 1: It's not a requirement.
Speaker 2: However, I do think that if it's something that your
Speaker 2: partner really wants, make an effort. Yeah, because I feel
Speaker 2: like there's a disparity between someone who's like, I don't
Speaker 2: even care. That's why I don't post. It's exactly you
Speaker 2: don't care. This person cares a lot to meet them halfway.
Speaker 2: It's also such a shame that, like, relationships as a
Speaker 2: whole are so complex, and we're stuck on the minutia.
Speaker 1: Like we haven't even gotten into beautif we.
Speaker 3: Just want to it's because we can't talk about serious things,
Speaker 3: but we want to talk about relationships.
Speaker 2: No, but don't you think, like for every person who's like,
Speaker 2: my partner won't post me, I'm like, that's not even
Speaker 2: your biggest problem.
Speaker 3: BA.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's probably you need gratification for, hence you need
Speaker 5: the photo for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying, Like we're missing all
Speaker 2: this not posting the photo. They don't plan things. It's
Speaker 2: symptomatic of a big issue. We don't want to say it,
Speaker 2: oop see, but I think we got to start saying it.
Speaker 2: It's like, didn't through me read the book. He's just
Speaker 2: not that into you.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 3: I listened to the book for me.
Speaker 2: Listen to the book educated us and when I am listening,
Speaker 2: this is a better I have some great news. So
Speaker 2: what I mentioned that we're on track for immortality, people
Speaker 2: were not happy. So I don't know how this is
Speaker 2: going to land. But you can freeze yourself now in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three in New South Wales in hopes of
Speaker 2: defrosting in a couple extra years. Be serious, maybe one
Speaker 2: hundred years later. I don't know what the timeline is,
Speaker 2: so you can hopefully live life one hundred years later
Speaker 2: as the age you are when you get frozen. How
Speaker 2: do we feel about it? I want to say overwhelmingly positive.
Speaker 1: But listen to this.
Speaker 6: Fifty people have signed up to be the very first
Speaker 6: Australians hoping to take a trip to the future. A
Speaker 6: facility in a rural New South Wales town is the
Speaker 6: first in the Southern Hemisphere to freeze humans in the
Speaker 6: hope that future technology will bring them back to life.
Speaker 6: It's now in operation, seven years after it received counsel approval.
Speaker 3: Why this doesn't excite you, No, because I don't want
Speaker 3: to live when my loved ones aren't there.
Speaker 1: You will make new loved ones. I promise you.
Speaker 2: Everybody you think you've loved in your lifetime, have you
Speaker 2: not loved deeper?
Speaker 3: I can't get my mummy.
Speaker 1: Oh, don't do that. I'm being serious, don't take a din.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's all I think about is my mama.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like what would oh Shaather?
Speaker 2: It does concern me that the first ever is happening
Speaker 2: in New South Wales tech capital.
Speaker 1: But what I will say is.
Speaker 2: It's nice to know that advancements are being made in
Speaker 2: some capacity, because why, while we may not want to
Speaker 2: freeze ourself, it's good to know that we're thinking creatively
Speaker 2: and laterally about ways to prolong our lives.
Speaker 1: The good old eat well and exercise. Isn't it like
Speaker 1: you used to working? The two fruit five vesu or
Speaker 1: whatever they're talking about. It's not working. It's not getting
Speaker 1: like it used to. We need new solutions.
Speaker 2: But also I think the more we talk about these
Speaker 2: life extending futuristic practices, I feel like we start to
Speaker 2: have a very interesting and necessary conversation about mortality, Like
Speaker 2: what are we doing with life currently? I think when
Speaker 2: we're doing our day to day grind, rise and grind.
Speaker 2: We kind of forget that number one, not to be grim.
Speaker 2: It could end in a second. But even if it doesn't,
Speaker 2: I don't really think we're living like the movies say
Speaker 2: we should do it. It's not Project X Eat, Prey, Love,
Speaker 2: Mama Mia, go to Greece.
Speaker 1: Who's your dad? I don't know. And that's what life
Speaker 1: is about. And suddenly when you hear that they're doing
Speaker 1: what is it cRIO therapy? I don't know.
Speaker 2: When they're doing that in rural New South Wales, you
Speaker 2: start thinking, who'd want to do that? Who wouldn't want
Speaker 2: to do that?
Speaker 3: Do you have to die? No?
Speaker 2: Like you you freeom, you're hibernating, but you're alive when
Speaker 2: they freeze you, right because maybe like unconscious? Yeah wait yeah,
Speaker 2: because like is it when people die they're getting frozen? No,
Speaker 2: this is like because you know, like when you freeze
Speaker 2: something like I'm putting the bread in the freezer.
Speaker 1: I'm like prolonging the shelf, flizing the eggs, the bread.
Speaker 3: It means that you would have to sacrifice your life
Speaker 3: now because you have to be in full health for
Speaker 3: them to then resurrect.
Speaker 1: But people aren't really living anyway.
Speaker 3: Would you do it? I'm not gonna do it. I'm chilling.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not going to do it, but I'm grateful
Speaker 2: to know that things are being done. I'm personally looking
Speaker 2: for the fountain of youth, to which that's why I
Speaker 2: love vamporism.
Speaker 3: Well, you look about ten years old, so you find not.
Speaker 2: Literally if I could get bitten today. You think I'm
Speaker 2: not doing that. I'm getting bitten. I'm taking ten years
Speaker 2: off instantly to go run around in the forest. Like
Speaker 2: you said, brawless, shoeless. It breeds in.
Speaker 1: And thoughts out, thoughts out. I'm cigarettes.
Speaker 3: What I would really love in this world, and I
Speaker 3: wonder if you feel the same. Everybody is to buy
Speaker 3: a Tesla. Say what you will about young Elon Musk.
Speaker 3: He really popped his bussy when he put the Tesla
Speaker 3: on Earth. I love the functions of it. And I
Speaker 3: was once in an uber that was a Tesla and
Speaker 3: it was one of the Big four drive ones Staateley.
Speaker 1: It felt like I was in this spaceship. Believe acoustics.
Speaker 3: My dad is in there. He was torn of the driver,
Speaker 3: being like, moh, where do you this one? Mate? Absolutely
Speaker 3: loving it. Sick, just like browing down all the way
Speaker 3: in this tesla. My friend has been dating this guy
Speaker 3: right who has a Tesla. Nice, I know, I said,
Speaker 3: go off, queen, does he have any mates? Okay, just joking,
Speaker 3: I said to her when they started dating, I'm like,
Speaker 3: can you tell him about the fart function? So when
Speaker 3: you own a Tesla, it comes with all these mods.
Speaker 3: So this guy, she told me, he's got a mod
Speaker 3: that makes everything Christmas theme. So when you put the
Speaker 3: blinker on, it's like jingle bell jingle. When you toot,
Speaker 3: it's like some Santa related And I said, oh my god,
Speaker 3: have you heard this? Friend of mine and I joke
Speaker 3: a lot about poos humor. I know it's sickening. And
Speaker 3: I was like, do you know there's a fart one?
Speaker 3: And she said, what next time they hang out, she's
Speaker 3: sending me this video of the fart content. Oh, I
Speaker 3: hope it's a video. Maybe it's just a photo Okay, No,
Speaker 3: she's just it's just a photo of like all of
Speaker 3: the settings and you can pick whatever fart you want
Speaker 3: as an indicator. So this is what Elon Musk has
Speaker 3: written as a different type of farts, not a fart
Speaker 3: short shorts, riuper falcon heavy, ludicrous fart, neuro a stink,
Speaker 3: boring fart, verified fart.
Speaker 1: I'm so brackon.
Speaker 3: I thought this is like play a gassy prank on
Speaker 3: anyone in your car from any seat. Oh, this is
Speaker 3: just like I just love Tesla's I just feel like
Speaker 3: it's so distracted.
Speaker 2: The innovation Tesla has doesn't make sense for how little
Speaker 2: time the average person spends in their car.
Speaker 3: I'd be spending all day in my damn tests.
Speaker 2: This feels like when your car becomes your second house
Speaker 2: or your first house, then you can look great, like
Speaker 2: I need all these extra mods.
Speaker 1: But I guess it's like, isn't that the way that
Speaker 1: technology goes?
Speaker 2: In order for any tech to feel like it's got
Speaker 2: intrinsic value has to do more than what it's meant
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: If your phone could only call you, Like, this thing
Speaker 1: is useless.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's just too many. Like I don't like having
Speaker 3: all the mod cons. I just want to I just
Speaker 3: want to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we didn't have the mod cons, you know,
Speaker 1: we'd have healthy social life.
Speaker 3: And we'd be able to concentrate when we're doing a
Speaker 3: radio show.
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