WEBVTT - ASK UNCUT - Boys will be boys

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout

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<v Speaker 1>Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We

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<v Speaker 1>pay our respect to their elders past and present and

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<v Speaker 1>extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island

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<v Speaker 1>peoples today.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode is recorded on Gadigal Land of the Aurora Nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi guys, and a welcome back to another episode of

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<v Speaker 2>Life Uncut. I'm Laura and I'm Ruth, and we have

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<v Speaker 2>some news.

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<v Speaker 3>I we're going to say that this Thursday, and oh

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<v Speaker 3>I fuck all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Firstly, before I tell you what the news is, let's yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's build the suspense.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, guys, we've got something that we want to tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Thursday, so we won't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an ask on Cut episode and that means that you, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you talking like that?

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<v Speaker 3>I've written in questions because I'm building suspense. Brittany okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Borno the truth? Are you around? No? No? No, I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, asking card that is where you are. You send

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<v Speaker 2>in your questions and we do our best to answer them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's solicited unqualified advice where we answer you deep you

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<v Speaker 2>duck and your burning questions.

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<v Speaker 3>And Laura's obviously far too excited.

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<v Speaker 1>She's jumping out on the seat because we do have

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<v Speaker 1>I guess two big things that we are announcing. One's

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than the other, but they're both. They're both big,

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<v Speaker 1>they're both equals exciting. I mean, I'm excited for both

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Maybe they could go together, Like what if

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<v Speaker 1>people put them on to go to the other one.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you gonna wear the thing to go to the thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Could we thing? Inception? That's I mean, you could wear

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<v Speaker 3>the thing and bring the thing at the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, guys, so the news is you'll asked for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually all of you didn't, but some of you did.

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<v Speaker 2>And we are doing a live show. We are, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're just testing the waters because if it sucks, we

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<v Speaker 2>won't do more than one.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're just doing one to start with. We think

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be fucking awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna suck, but like well finger scrossier scrush.

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<v Speaker 2>We we never know if you've never done it, so

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<v Speaker 2>like we're just putting it out there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>If it does, don't come at us, yep, Maybe don't

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<v Speaker 1>share it on social media. It is something that has

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<v Speaker 1>been asked for, you know, since we started. It was

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<v Speaker 1>something that was asked of us. But we never were

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<v Speaker 1>in a real position too. I mean, Laura had two

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<v Speaker 1>little kids all the time, we had full time jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>We were trying to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I do have them all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I keep trying to say, like go away, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they just come back and go go away.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're always there.

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<v Speaker 1>But the need and the ask and the one has

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<v Speaker 1>become more prevalent over time. And I just I guess

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks ago, now, maybe I put a pole up.

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<v Speaker 1>I put it one final poll there was I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing a question right, a Q and A, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are a few that came through saying you and Laura

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<v Speaker 1>are ever going to do a live show.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought, you know what, this is.

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<v Speaker 1>A current theme. I'm going to put the pole out

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<v Speaker 1>guys if we do a live show, is anyone gonna come?

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<v Speaker 1>Does anyone want to actually see us in here? And well,

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<v Speaker 1>the poll spoke for itself. Three percent of people said yes, no, No.

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<v Speaker 3>It was overwhelmingly yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So you are so we're delivering. We are going to

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to attempt our first live show.

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<v Speaker 2>But also this is also in conjunction because obviously we

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<v Speaker 2>have the book coming out at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Once again, if you haven't pre ordered that, it is

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<v Speaker 2>called We Love Love.

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<v Speaker 1>Links are in our bio.

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<v Speaker 2>Links are in our bio links are also on the website.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is just to coincide with that launch we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be it's going to be in October. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>we are doing it to start with in Sydney. We

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<v Speaker 2>just we have one planned. It may turn into two

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<v Speaker 2>depending on how ticket sales go for the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>But we really wanted to try it. We really wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to get it dialed. We have really exciting plans for

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<v Speaker 2>what this live show is going to look like, but

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<v Speaker 2>we also wanted to like make sure that we had

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<v Speaker 2>it right so that way, once that's done, we can

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<v Speaker 2>then roll it out to other places.

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<v Speaker 3>So we are really.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry if you're in Brisbane, if you're in Perth, wherever

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<v Speaker 2>you are.

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<v Speaker 3>We want you to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, that would also mean buying a ticket to come

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<v Speaker 2>to Sydney. But yeah, like one day we'll be coming

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<v Speaker 2>to you as well, so don't feel excluded.

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<v Speaker 3>We love you all, Okay. If it's it's just like

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<v Speaker 3>just let us dip our toe in.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it goes well, we want to I mean

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<v Speaker 1>like two ways, a big word and just.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah because like like I mean, we've been recording this

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<v Speaker 2>in a loungdry and still do that for three years.

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<v Speaker 3>We forget you guys are there.

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<v Speaker 1>We just talk to ourselves and to getting friend of

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<v Speaker 1>all of you will be like we're naked, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Like talking about let me put it this way, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel fine talking about a finger in the bum on

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<v Speaker 2>a podcast. Would I feel fine doing that in front

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<v Speaker 2>of a completely sold out room of people. Maybe not

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<v Speaker 2>quite so much, but I'm gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna give it? Well, yeah, wave it around.

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<v Speaker 1>But no.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have something else we want to tell you, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is that we have new jumper merch coming as.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and they're so good.

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<v Speaker 2>They're actually I mean, if you guys like last year's

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<v Speaker 2>and we think you're gonna love this year's ones. And

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<v Speaker 2>also we have because like last year, the big problem

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<v Speaker 2>with our merch was that it's sold out very quickly

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<v Speaker 2>and so many people missed out, and we understand that,

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<v Speaker 2>like the site crash and it was just a whole

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<v Speaker 2>fucking mess to be perfectly honest, So we really put

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<v Speaker 2>some time in. We appreciate it's taken us a bit

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<v Speaker 2>longer this year, but we have a lot more of

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<v Speaker 2>it to make sure that we can, you know, get

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<v Speaker 2>one out two everyone who wants one, keep your eyes

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<v Speaker 2>and ears on Instagram. Like we said, all of the

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<v Speaker 2>details are up in our website, but if you jump

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<v Speaker 2>onto Life Uncut podcast that's our Instagram, go follow it.

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<v Speaker 2>We will have all those details coming up very shortly

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<v Speaker 2>for all the super exciting like this. The end of

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<v Speaker 2>this year for this podcast has just blown out book

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<v Speaker 2>live show jumpers.

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<v Speaker 1>By the book and wear the jumper and bring them

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<v Speaker 1>both to the live show.

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<v Speaker 3>Would love it. Let's get into answering some questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, then that makes you a real diehard laugh

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<v Speaker 2>I doesn't it like came to the show, bought the book,

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<v Speaker 2>wll the jumper.

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<v Speaker 3>Games or conquered.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get into the questions question Num.

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<v Speaker 2>One.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll kick start.

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<v Speaker 1>So my boyfriend has a group text with about six

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<v Speaker 1>of his guy friends. Three of them are single and

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<v Speaker 1>the other three are in relationships. I recently found out

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<v Speaker 1>that it's really common for them to share pictures or

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<v Speaker 1>screenshots of the girls that the single guys are hooking

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<v Speaker 1>up with, which I think is fine. But an extra

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<v Speaker 1>part that I just found out is that the single

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<v Speaker 1>guys are sharing pretty much any nudes or sexualized picks

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<v Speaker 1>of these girls that they are sent. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of topless picks, and I just said, that is disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>I told my boyfriend this. He told me that I'm overreacting.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, it is very disrespectful. He said he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything wrong, and if he was, he wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>so honest with me about it. I want him off

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<v Speaker 1>this group text, but he refuses.

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<v Speaker 3>So am I wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is this gross and disrespectful? Yes, this is gross

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<v Speaker 1>and disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, this is the fact that he the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>he turns around and says, I told you this because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think I was doing anything wrong. Just because

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<v Speaker 2>you don't think you're doing something wrong doesn't mean you're

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<v Speaker 2>not actually doing something wrong. Actually, what you're doing is something.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fucking illegal.

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<v Speaker 2>Because when somebody sends a nude photo of themself to

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<v Speaker 2>one person, they are giving consent for that one person

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<v Speaker 2>to see the photo. So every single one of those

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<v Speaker 2>boys who feel the need to then send those photos.

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<v Speaker 2>Internally it's revenge porn. Now that feels like it like

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<v Speaker 2>that as a word, like that's such a weighty thing

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<v Speaker 2>to tell someone and be like, dude, that's fucking revenge porn.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that sound dropped a law bomb.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that that sounds I mean, obviously it feels

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<v Speaker 2>so defaming, but like, that's exactly what this is. And

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that he doesn't see this as a problem,

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<v Speaker 2>I think really just goes to show that there is

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<v Speaker 2>still this huge gap between.

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<v Speaker 3>Like lads being lads. It's just the boys being.

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<v Speaker 2>Boys and what actually is is acceptable and how women

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<v Speaker 2>should be treated. It makes me so fucking angry. And

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<v Speaker 2>I have definitely dated guys in the past who had

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<v Speaker 2>these sorts of group chats who thought this sort of

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<v Speaker 2>behavior is okay. But to objectify a woman, or to

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<v Speaker 2>think that that it's okay to share nudes even with

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<v Speaker 2>that around friends without that person's consent is problematic on

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<v Speaker 2>so many fucking levels.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's probably a part of them and this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is so so wrong, But the word revenge porn,

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<v Speaker 1>there's probably part of them this like, what.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a revenge porn?

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<v Speaker 1>We're telling them how hot we're talking about how hot

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<v Speaker 1>they are. This is all positive, like they probably don't

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<v Speaker 1>associate it with We're not going out trying to ruin

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<v Speaker 1>someone's life. It doesn't matter. It is illegal. You cannot

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<v Speaker 1>share somebody else's nuds without their consent. I would be

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<v Speaker 1>if I would be rapable and mortified if I knew

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<v Speaker 1>that someone obviously someone you trusted, because if you're sending

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<v Speaker 1>a nude to someone, there's a level of trust and

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<v Speaker 1>respect there. This is usually the understanding between two people.

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<v Speaker 1>If I knew they were going and just sharing that

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<v Speaker 1>my personal photos around it, I would be You'd be off,

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<v Speaker 1>You'd you'd beg BUYE, see you later.

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<v Speaker 2>But also, GEN know what, I think it's really important

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<v Speaker 2>for us to have this conversation because it's so easy

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<v Speaker 2>for this to be one sided and for this conversation

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<v Speaker 2>to be gendered. It's so easy to say, like male

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<v Speaker 2>group chats do this to the girls that they're dating.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also know that a lot of women do

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<v Speaker 2>this as well. A lot of women will send around

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<v Speaker 2>dig pics or they'll send around photos that they have

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<v Speaker 2>of their partners, not necessarily their boyfriends, but of guys

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<v Speaker 2>that they're dating. A lot of us have done this

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<v Speaker 2>in different ways, and I think it's something to be

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<v Speaker 2>really really conscious of, Like do you want to be

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<v Speaker 2>part of that archaic mentality that is like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>okay to share this dick pic with my friend because

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny, you know? Or do you want to be

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<v Speaker 2>part of the movement that says you know, actually, do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what? I want better for our digital footprint?

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<v Speaker 2>I want better for the way we treat each other online.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I might find something funny or I might find

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<v Speaker 2>something amusing that I want to share with my friends,

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm going to be the bigger person that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>subscribe into this gossip and really like objectifying to fame someone,

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<v Speaker 2>because I do think that it isn't just guys who

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<v Speaker 2>do this like we do this sending around dig picks

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Mate. I have seen this, Mate, I'm getting fired up now.

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<v Speaker 3>M eight, M eight.

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen this in our Facebook group. And obviously

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<v Speaker 2>these are posts that we have very quickly deleted, but

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<v Speaker 2>people sharing photos that someone has sent to them a

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<v Speaker 2>dick pic or something that maybe I mean normally it

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<v Speaker 2>has been a dick pic with the sort of sentiment

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<v Speaker 2>of like ha ha ha, I cannot believe I was

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<v Speaker 2>sent this like that's never okay in any situation, doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter if it's a guy sending it to his group

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<v Speaker 2>of guy friends of a girl, or a girl sending

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<v Speaker 2>it and putting that there to their group of friends

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<v Speaker 2>who are girls. This whole situation is monumentally fucked and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it all comes down to this conversation around values.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys might be aligned on a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 2>but he is showing you who he is and where

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<v Speaker 2>his values lie by saying that he doesn't think that

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<v Speaker 2>there is a problem with this. So I would say

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<v Speaker 2>the next way of for you to approach this situation

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<v Speaker 2>is to sit down to have a really genuine conversation

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<v Speaker 2>around why this is so problematic. If he doesn't understand,

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<v Speaker 2>to educate him on why this is problematic, and if

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<v Speaker 2>he still thinks that this isn't an issue and that

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<v Speaker 2>you're overreacting about this, I would really question whether he

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<v Speaker 2>is someone whose values line up with what you want

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<v Speaker 2>and expect and need in a partner, because this, to me,

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<v Speaker 2>reeks of immaturity, it reeks of toxic masculinity, it reeks

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<v Speaker 2>of just this really archaic. Lads will be lads, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that we need to be better and ask

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<v Speaker 2>for better in our relationships.

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<v Speaker 3>And let's let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say he's not educated on the topic, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know it's illegal.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking all that information, sit down on the internet, pull

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<v Speaker 1>it up, show him cases of people that have gone

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<v Speaker 1>to prison for this kind of thing, like this is

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<v Speaker 1>a real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, like, fuck, it's twenty twenty two. You

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have to Like people shouldn't have to be hand

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<v Speaker 2>held through this conversation. You know, I kind of hate them.

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree, Yeah, only to a point that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying we need to handhold, but I disagree there would

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<v Speaker 1>be some very very naive, completely removed people still in society.

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<v Speaker 1>And like, this is why I say, let's give him

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<v Speaker 1>the benefit of a doubt. If if he doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually illegal, Like he might know deep down

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<v Speaker 1>that it's like, oh, probably shouldn't be sharing these, but

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<v Speaker 1>he might not know it's actually people go to prison

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<v Speaker 1>for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Educate him, show him.

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<v Speaker 1>If he still has the same sentiment and belief that

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, well, then that's something you need to decide

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<v Speaker 1>to decide if you want to stay in that relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>because I wouldn't. Like for me, I'd be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's you're disgusting, Like, yeah, it's not for me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess like the big thing for me is,

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<v Speaker 2>like I know that we keep coming back to this

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<v Speaker 2>whole concept of revenge porn and like something being illegal

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<v Speaker 2>or criminalized or whatever. But I don't think it always

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<v Speaker 2>has to be around like where the law lies, like

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<v Speaker 2>what feels morally right, Like what feels good to you

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<v Speaker 2>as a person, What is the right way to treat someone.

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<v Speaker 2>They're the qualities I want in my partner. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't kind of date someone based on are they

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<v Speaker 2>doing something criminal or not? Like I date someone based

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<v Speaker 2>on do their values? Is who they are as a

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<v Speaker 2>person aligned with who I am as a person? And

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<v Speaker 2>can I be confident and proud in the way that

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<v Speaker 2>they represent women, in the way that they fight for minorities,

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<v Speaker 2>in the way that they share their political views. And

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<v Speaker 2>I really think that this is all very intertwined. Question

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<v Speaker 2>number two, Oh there we go, all right, Question number two.

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<v Speaker 2>About three weeks ago, I had the best sex of

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<v Speaker 2>my life. Get your yeah, good on yetting happy for you,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a one night stand. I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 2>sex could be this good, or that it was even

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<v Speaker 2>possible when you pick up at a nightclub. I knew

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<v Speaker 2>he was from out of town, so there was no expectations.

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<v Speaker 2>We had an amazing night and morning, and then also

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<v Speaker 2>had an amazing afternoon. He didn't leave until two pm,

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<v Speaker 2>so there was lots of sexy times when he left.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't ask for his number because in my head

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<v Speaker 2>I was kind of telling myself, well, he'll probably ask

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<v Speaker 2>you if he wants your number, which is dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I should also mention we really vibed, but didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>talk much about ourselves because it's, you know, a one

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<v Speaker 2>night stand, so why bother. So, using the minimal details

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<v Speaker 2>I had, I typed them into Google. Who would have

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<v Speaker 2>fucking known? His LinkedIn came up? So my question is

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<v Speaker 2>who could have guessed?

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<v Speaker 3>He could have guessed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I now go and add him on Facebook and

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<v Speaker 2>say if you're ever back in town, I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>catch up? Or do I bury this and ruin the fantasy?

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<v Speaker 3>I remember, yes, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can message him on Facebook?

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<v Speaker 3>Fucking yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So I okay, a little story.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even can message him on LinkedIn, but brit says, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we've had this conversation not on LinkedIn.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Psycho, going to Facebook's way better. I years news.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was twenty five. I'd just moved to Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>I've told this probably on the podcast in our very

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<v Speaker 1>first year, like two or three years ago. I was

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<v Speaker 1>online dating then and I didn't I wasn't big on

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<v Speaker 1>social media.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was this guy that I wasn't big on

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<v Speaker 3>social media. I didn't even know how to do the interweb.

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<v Speaker 3>But I didn't know how to do anything well when

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't big on social That's a great way of

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<v Speaker 3>describing it. No, I mean I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have I mean I wasn't didn't have social

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<v Speaker 1>when you were, didn't have a big following. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to use it the interweb at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think I said, a hotmail or a big

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<v Speaker 1>pond or something. Nothing against anyone, big pond, just kind.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was not good on social media. So I

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<v Speaker 1>had seen this guy and I just didn't happen often,

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<v Speaker 1>but his online dating profile he was so hot, like

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<v Speaker 1>it was, he was so good looking.

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<v Speaker 3>It was ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it was. He had this dog

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<v Speaker 1>that I loved. I loved his dog, I love his

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<v Speaker 1>vibe of photos. I loved everything about him, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had his whole this was I don't know if he

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<v Speaker 1>put it in I don't remember, or if that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it used to be online dating them, but his whole

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<v Speaker 1>entire name was in the profile.

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<v Speaker 3>I think back in the day it was a whole name.

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<v Speaker 1>Until people started to get stalked and stuff. Anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>swiped right and it wasn't a match. But I remembered

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<v Speaker 1>his name and we didn't match, so I could have

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<v Speaker 1>part of me could have been like, well, he has

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't like you because he's probably seen you not matched.

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<v Speaker 1>But I went and found him on Facebook, so I

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<v Speaker 1>typed the name in quite a few people came up,

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<v Speaker 1>so I.

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<v Speaker 3>Dug onto page sixteen and found him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but one of his photos that I saw was

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<v Speaker 1>the I matched it with a photo that I had

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<v Speaker 1>seen of him and this dog, so I knew it

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<v Speaker 1>was the right guy.

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<v Speaker 2>There are so many layers of you being a crazy

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<v Speaker 2>bitch in this totally, and I fucking love it, loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I messaged him I was like, hey, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>what I wrote. I remember saying I mean that is

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<v Speaker 1>five ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw you on it. This is a sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>I hoped I would never.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, that's what I said. This is a sentence. I

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<v Speaker 3>hoped I would never say.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you on the dating app and we didn't match,

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<v Speaker 1>so I found you on Facebook. I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>say hey, And in my head I just thought I

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<v Speaker 1>will regret will because I waited up. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>will I regret never knowing? And the answer was yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I would regret not knowing more than I would regret

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<v Speaker 1>him rejecting me. So I went for it, took a risk.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote back almost immediately or like within an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, hey, I'm so glad you reached out.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen you online dating. He was from New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen you on that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we start he hadn't gotten to you yet basically,

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<v Speaker 1>so it wasn't that he said, no, It's like it was,

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<v Speaker 1>havn't come across you. You're like, well, I'm out of

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<v Speaker 1>matches because I've literally gotten to the place where there's

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<v Speaker 1>no one left in Sydney. Well, he was in New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 3>He was from New Zealand, but here's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We started to talk and I was like, this guy's amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, I leave in America. I'm actually unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>going back in three days time, but do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get dinner?

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<v Speaker 3>And I said yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So we met up that night and we did not

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<v Speaker 1>leave each other side for three days, and the best

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<v Speaker 1>three days together, like, had great sex.

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<v Speaker 3>We're obsessed.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like one of those people that was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I've met a soulmate, like I was like, and he

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<v Speaker 1>felt the same. Anyway, that was ten years ago and

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<v Speaker 1>to this day we are still probably he's probably one

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<v Speaker 1>of my closest friends. Like he's in another relationship long term.

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<v Speaker 1>We just adore each other as people the unit. For

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, the universe was supposed to put us together.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's still someone that I would call to tell

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<v Speaker 1>every secret to when I'm upset. When I Jordan and

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<v Speaker 1>I ended, I called him first. He's one of those people.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've only probably we've caught up over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen him in America, he's been here a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing's ever happened. We've just gotten to this point where

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<v Speaker 1>we're just obsessed with each other. As two humans. But

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<v Speaker 1>that was all from going out on this one little

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<v Speaker 1>limb and chasing someone down. So I'm a really big

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<v Speaker 1>advocate for this. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a funny one because I think, like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's always fine if they want you to do it, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's always fine if it's reciprocated, right, Like, so if

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who you don't match with on Tinder then

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<v Speaker 2>and stalks you down, finds you on Facebook and messages

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<v Speaker 2>you if you think he's hot and you hadn't seen him,

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<v Speaker 2>of course you're gonna be like, yeah, let's go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you did see him and you swipe no,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be like, oh, that fucking creep he found me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this can go one of two ways. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think the rule is it's one message. It is one message.

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<v Speaker 2>If there is no reply, that is the rejection. Leave

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<v Speaker 2>that person alone.

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<v Speaker 3>Do not be the person that multiply like like is like,

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<v Speaker 3>come on with me again. You get one shot, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't triple text, you didn't catch it on LinkedIn, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't triple LinkedIn? Did you get my message? I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I think in this instance, if you had an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>time together, it is probably a little bit weird that

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't ask for your number, but in the same

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<v Speaker 2>way that you didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he thought you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were going to ask, you thought he was gonna ask.

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<v Speaker 2>No one asked, so that you're both kind of like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well this is what this is, and then you left it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, go out, shoot your shot. The worst thing

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna happen is he's not going to write back.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's it. He's not gonna write it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you creep.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not gonna You might think it, but he.

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<v Speaker 1>Won't write it. And that's what you've got to remember.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to remember he's either going to see it

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<v Speaker 1>and not reply, big deal, move on, or he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to reply and say I had a great time too,

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<v Speaker 1>let's catch up for sure. Maybe you won't catch up,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he's been polite. Maybe you will catch up. But

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<v Speaker 1>shoot your bloody shot.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is totally the takeaway message from this, like

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<v Speaker 2>more so than like whether you should go and message

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<v Speaker 2>someone on Instagram or like whether you should do it

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<v Speaker 2>on LinkedIn, whatever it is. I think the big thing

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<v Speaker 2>to remember is that like rejection, especially when there is

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<v Speaker 2>not much writing on it, when it's literally just you're

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<v Speaker 2>sending a message and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't get a reply.

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<v Speaker 2>That shouldn't be a big deal, Like, we don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to make that a big deal. It's okay to put

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<v Speaker 2>yourself out there and for someone to be like, you know, nah,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't feeling it like that is not a reflection

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<v Speaker 2>on you as a person. It is not a reflection

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<v Speaker 2>on what you provide in a relationship. It's not a

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<v Speaker 2>reflection of your value by any means. What that's a

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<v Speaker 2>reflection of is what that other person's needs and wants are.

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<v Speaker 2>And they may not be at a point where they

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<v Speaker 2>want to date. They may be in a fucking relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>You do not have any idea where somebody else is

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<v Speaker 2>at in life. And the worst thing that you can

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<v Speaker 2>ever do is take a rejection personally in these instances

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<v Speaker 2>because ninety nine point nine per percent of the time,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just simply not question number three. So a few

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<v Speaker 2>weeks back, on a drunken night, I slept with my

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<v Speaker 2>housemate who is also my friend. We had been out

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<v Speaker 2>with a group of mutual friends and one thing led

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<v Speaker 2>to another, and well we did the deed several times

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<v Speaker 2>now in the one night and rooms now since then,

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<v Speaker 2>he has basically just pretended as though nothing happened, Like

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<v Speaker 2>he hasn't ever brought it up and hasn't mentioned a

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<v Speaker 2>single thing. I don't want to date him or anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that, but is it strange that he hasn't said

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<v Speaker 2>a single thing about it? Should I be offended by this?

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<v Speaker 2>Should I bring it up with him? Or should I

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<v Speaker 2>just never acknowledge the huge elephant that I feel is

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<v Speaker 2>in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be put in an advert up on flatmate

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<v Speaker 1>Finder for either you to move out or for him

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<v Speaker 1>to move out.

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<v Speaker 3>No, this is I think this is a funny one.

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<v Speaker 3>I would How many people out there do you reckon it?

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck their house mates? Apes?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey?

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<v Speaker 3>I thon you have no do you know what? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>I once there was three of us, right, like three friends,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were all going to move into a house together,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was the plan. And then I had sex

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<v Speaker 2>with one of them, and then we couldn't all move

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<v Speaker 2>in together because we all.

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<v Speaker 3>Agreed that that would be very bad. Well, I've done it.

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<v Speaker 3>How did that pan out for you?

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<v Speaker 1>So? I was an interesting story. I'm afore I give

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<v Speaker 1>you my opinion. I'll tell you it wasn't intentional.

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<v Speaker 2>I had fell over and he fell into me. It

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<v Speaker 2>slips writing I fell over onto his penis happens to

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<v Speaker 2>the best personal It certainly does.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, was when I moved to Scotland. I moved to

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<v Speaker 1>Scotland and I had I only knew one person there.

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<v Speaker 1>I was living on my own because she now the

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<v Speaker 1>girl's gotta eat well Shered had fallen in love with Jaye,

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<v Speaker 1>her Scottish fiance, and they left me for daf so

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<v Speaker 1>I had to fend for myself.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had to go fend for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>So I only knew one other person, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that was from New Zealand. Originally I said

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<v Speaker 1>to him, hey, you don't happen to know anyone that

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<v Speaker 1>has any accommodation due or is looking for a room

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<v Speaker 1>to rant. Because he was a bit young. He'd lived

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<v Speaker 1>in Scotland for two years. And he was like, hold

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<v Speaker 1>the line. I've got a big group of friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me put it out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like fantastic. That afternoon he gets back

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<v Speaker 1>to me, He's like, hey, I've got a whole apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>You can rent the two bedrooms, one bathroom. Great place,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's pretty nice. The guy my friend that owns

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<v Speaker 1>the apartment is away, he said, any friend of yours

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<v Speaker 1>is a friend of mine. So he's like, he'll give

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<v Speaker 1>it to you for a really cheap price, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can only have it for eight weeks while he's away.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he's coming like he's giving you eight weeks

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<v Speaker 1>to find somewhere, and I'm like, that is amazing, that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I moved into this house and this guy started

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<v Speaker 1>messaging me, just the owner but being really nice, just

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<v Speaker 1>being like, hey, let me know if you need anything,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like this is the coffee shop I go to.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd also been sent a photo of what you look like,

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<v Speaker 2>so he knew exactly who was staying in his house.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know if he had, but he It

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<v Speaker 1>turns out he is a rugby player. He played World

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<v Speaker 1>Cup rugby. Yeah for his type, well for Italy too,

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<v Speaker 1>so like, definitely my type. So he The texts started

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<v Speaker 1>to eventuate into facetimes. Once a week he'd FaceTime me

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<v Speaker 1>to check in everything all right with the house. And

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<v Speaker 1>the first time we saw each other, he tells the

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<v Speaker 1>story where he was like, oh, that you're pretty cute.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't say that.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't attracted to him. Initially, I just thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was a really nice guy. He wasn't my actual type.

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<v Speaker 1>After he did his rugby tour, he moved back and

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<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to have left, but he had developed

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<v Speaker 1>this really big crush on me. So he's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>can stay in the house if you want. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>two bedrooms. He's like, just one hundred bucks, like whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Just he's like, it's nice to.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a company. But it was a ploy and we

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<v Speaker 1>ended up well sort of together. I guess we ended

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<v Speaker 1>up eventually cooking up and we're just it was weird.

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<v Speaker 1>We would like sleep together and then go back to

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<v Speaker 1>your to your own pictureoms and stuff, and we had

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<v Speaker 1>a shared war.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like the dream relationship that sounds amazing for months,

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<v Speaker 2>months and months just have sex and then go back

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<v Speaker 2>and get a good night's sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>It was yeah, and that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, yes, I have done it, but we it

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<v Speaker 1>definitely wasn't an elephant in the room.

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<v Speaker 3>We spoke about it. This situation is awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you have literally just hooked up and now he's

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<v Speaker 1>pretending like I didn't, especially.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're friends, like if you guys are housemates and

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<v Speaker 2>your mates like you're good friends who hang out together,

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<v Speaker 2>who like you know that relationship has now changed that

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<v Speaker 2>the fact, and I'm I do not deal with elephants

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<v Speaker 2>in the room.

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<v Speaker 3>Brittany knows this. I don't deal with it. Like you

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<v Speaker 3>have to fucking talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to talk about things because otherwise it just

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<v Speaker 2>like festus and gets weird. And so if he's just

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<v Speaker 2>there being like, oh, hey, how's your day, Like did

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<v Speaker 2>some shopping, got some milk, and you're like, yeah, remember

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<v Speaker 2>when you were inside me three days now when you

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<v Speaker 2>got my milk?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, remember remember when I milked all over you? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>there's it's weird. This is weird. Yes, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not arguing the point, but I don't think would

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<v Speaker 1>you bring it up?

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<v Speaker 3>No, you wouldn't. You would never say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you know what if if I did, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be in a really joking way. I wouldn't be like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's sit down and talk about it. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>no day you think you could be like, hey, remember

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<v Speaker 1>how he fucked, because that's what I would do. That's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what I do. I'm like, hey, remember the other

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<v Speaker 1>day how we fucked? But I remember how that time,

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<v Speaker 1>how we had sex. I would say it in a

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<v Speaker 1>funny way, but I would also go with the flow,

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<v Speaker 1>probably a little bit, like if he's pretending it doesn't happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're happy to pretend it doesn't happen, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, this's for some reason he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe he thinks you don't want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know if you bring it up, funny

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<v Speaker 1>throwaway comment, that's my advice.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the big thing is is like figure out

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<v Speaker 2>why it makes you feel so weird that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about it, Like is it because you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>there is something that happened. We both know it happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and now our friendship feels disingenuous because we're not at

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<v Speaker 2>least acknowledging it, which I think is a.

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<v Speaker 3>Very real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like right, you might be feeling like, well, now we

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<v Speaker 2>are doing this lot, or like living together and lying

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<v Speaker 2>about living in sin Yeah, we're just like it feels inauthentic, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and some people really, you know, and I think most people,

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<v Speaker 2>most people want to live in a way that feels

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<v Speaker 2>authentic to them, especially in their own home.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's Okay, Like, if this was me,

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<v Speaker 3>I would probably bring it up. I would definitely bring

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<v Speaker 3>it up, I think, and not.

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<v Speaker 1>Because one hundred percent wood yes, And I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Say like, hey, I just want to bring this up

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<v Speaker 2>because I do feel like there's an elephant in the

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<v Speaker 2>room and I don't want this to change our friendship

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<v Speaker 2>because I think you're great.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not interested in anything more than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that was crazy, but also like I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to clear this energy because it feels weird for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for me, that makes it that that changes the

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic because all of a sudden, it's making it something

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than it is. He's like, cool, we had sex.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, cool, we had sex. I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>need to talk about it. He's probably worried about making

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<v Speaker 1>the friendship awkward, changing the friendship dynamic, ruining the friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>But by sitting down and saying I don't want this

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<v Speaker 1>to change anything, but we need to talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and addressing on from the.

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<v Speaker 3>Room, it changes it. But the thing is you had sex.

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<v Speaker 3>It changed it anyway. That's the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is is lex and forget not. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>work like that. It's not like doing each other's washing

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<v Speaker 2>like he's been inside you. You have had sex, so

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't have to be a big deal. But like

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<v Speaker 2>I think, if it's becoming a big deal and you

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<v Speaker 2>cannot stop thinking about it, then at least and I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I okay. And the reason why I'm saying like, talk

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<v Speaker 2>about a little bit is because I do think like

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<v Speaker 2>communication is the foundation for every relationship, whether you're friends,

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 2>whether you're romantic, whatever it is, Like, have a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have to be a big, in depth conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I was in this situation, I would feel

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<v Speaker 2>so fucking weird that we'd had sex and he was

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<v Speaker 2>just pretending it didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the benefit of having the conversation, if we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go there is maybe you could hook up again.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe this could be my situation. Maybe yeah, and also

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<v Speaker 3>like maybe a new kid.

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<v Speaker 2>You said it earlier, brit But like often people think,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to bring it up because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to make the other person feel awkward, and he

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<v Speaker 2>might be doing the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Could be so, and you guys might be men for

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<v Speaker 3>each other. Wait can this be an ask on cut aftermath? Please?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you tell us what happened? With this friendship hooking

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<v Speaker 3>up story.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely if you guys have an eye Ask Uncut Aftermath.

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<v Speaker 2>That means if we have ever answered one of your

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<v Speaker 2>ask Guncut questions before and you have a resolution to

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<v Speaker 2>the conundrum, we want to know about it. Slide on

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<v Speaker 2>into the DMS at Life Uncut podcast tell us what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>And also, if you haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>Pre ordered the book yet, this is your cheeky little

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<v Speaker 2>reminder to go jump on the links in our bios.

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<v Speaker 3>Get yourself that we love love book, yes, because we

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<v Speaker 3>would love love.

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<v Speaker 1>That well, there won't be an endless amount, so you

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<v Speaker 1>do want to make sure you get your hot little

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<v Speaker 1>hands on one before they hopefully sell out.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know the so your mom too got too?

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