WEBVTT - This 17 Year Old May Just Be Australia's Greatest Ever Athlete 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:02.040 Here at Two Good Sports. 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:04.240 We would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:06.119 land on which we record this podcast. 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:09.360 There were innerie people. This land was never seated, always 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:10.360 was always will be. 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:18.599 Hello and welcome to two Good Sports and sports news 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.120 told differently. I'm maybe Jelly, and the reason that I'm 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.760 doing the lead in is we don't have a Georgie Tunney. 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.560 She is off doing the Amazing Race, just a little 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.000 run around the planet. But we're joined by the wonderful 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.479 three aw football presenter a new title, Laura Spurway. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.120 Welcome Abby Jelly. It's good to be here again. 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.200 And imagine my shock when I heard that Georgie Tunny 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:40.520 might be doing well at the Amazing Race. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:41.400 Well you mentioned that. 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.400 I did say to George and like, come on, give 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:45.519 us a little pre record so we can put it 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:47.320 in for the Good Sport. How are you doing? 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:47.960 Where are you? 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.159 I miss so terribly, But let's have a listen. This 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:52.120 is Georgie's secret message for listeners. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:57.480 Well, well, well, hi there, dear listeners. Georgie Tunny reporting 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:02.480 from an undisclosed location. I'm currently doing something rather amazing. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.360 I can't tell you where I am. I can't tell 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.080 you what I've been doing. I can tell you though 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:09.920 of particular interest for all of our diehard listeners, and 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:12.600 tell me that I've made friends with a dolphin. I've 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:17.000 done it, guys, I've done an olympian and myself, Bronte Campbell, 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:18.319 we are friends? 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:18.600 Now? 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.280 How do we get that way? Can't reveal too much. 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:23.720 I hope you are all fantastic. Jell me. 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:25.679 I miss your gorgeous face, and. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.280 Do not fretch. I'll be back as soon as possible. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:30.560 Letting you know every single thought that has ever entered 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:30.959 my head? 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:31.880 Miss you? 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:35.600 Why did that feel like an episode of Gossip Girl? 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.640 Like was she going to sign off with xex? 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:38.720 So I'm intrigued. 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:40.759 Well, the good thing is you can pencil in Bronchie 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:41.880 Campbell as a future guest. 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:42.880 That's going to be good. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.360 But the thing, the smoky thing about George is she's 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:48.560 an elite swimmer. She's actually a great swimmer, but cannot 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.640 reverse parallel to save a life. Her car looks like 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:54.080 it's bashed up, so if there's anything that requires her 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.360 to drag and say this, she can barely ride a bike. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.920 So the fact that they're doing so well good on it, 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:01.840 I'm proud of her. It's her and a partner Rob, 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.760 as you may know from os Idol or Robert Millsey Mills. 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:05.880 So while we. 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.639 Miss her, we are pushing on and we'll just wait 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:09.919 and see when she returns. 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:10.639 I love this. 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.280 It's an unknown. It's an unknown, but I'm reading for. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.840 When I found out that she was doing it, I thought, oh, 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:18.440 she's going to kill this. The two of them together 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:19.480 are going to kill this. 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:20.120 You say that. 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.920 She called me and she was like, so it occurred 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:26.640 to me that, like, this is a race. She's like, 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.400 I just watched and they spend very little time walking. 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.680 There's this awkward shuffle they all have to do. Is 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:33.720 that part of what I have to do? And I'm like, babe, 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:37.760 it's in the title amazing race. You're probably going to 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:39.519 have to get some gusto steps up. 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:43.400 Run on camera at some point. Everyone's how do you reckon? 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.799 You would do running on camera or just being in 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:46.519 an amazing race? 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:47.359 I would never do it. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.480 It would bring out I need to be three hours 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:53.000 early for an airport without being an anxious mess. And 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.280 then on top of that, I'm the most competitive person 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:56.760 you've ever met, So. 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:57.560 You would do well? 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.000 Oh would paint me so poorly though, no one would 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:01.520 ever want to be my friend again. 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:06.000 I am that person that needs find my car every 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:11.240 day of the week. My basic navigational skills are horrendous, 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.440 so I feel I would be a liability. Well, in 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.040 good news, you and I don't have to do an 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.960 amazing anything, but we do today need to talk about 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:20.280 an amazing athlete. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:21.120 Gout, gout. 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:25.600 It's two syllables that have taken over the Australian sporting landscape. 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.600 Never before, or in our generation, has there been an 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:33.919 athlete so promising over the sprint over the Glamour distances 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.840 of one hundred and two hundred meters. And this kid 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.200 is just seventeen and ahead of the Morrow Plant Meet 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:43.600 this weekend. We want to talk about why he could 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.680 reshape world sport that's coming up. 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:00.760 So, Laura, I've got a question for you. 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:06.160 Do we have an Australian athlete that has ever defined 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:09.840 a sport? So when I say this, I mean when 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.120 you think about basketball, you think about Jordan, When you 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.760 think about golf, you think about woods. I mean with 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:19.799 swimming it was Phelps that you've got Ali Simone Biles. 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.080 I mean, have I only said Americans to this point. Absolutely, 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.039 So you've also got to think about Ronaldo Messi. These 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.360 athletes that come along that are that good, they define 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.640 an entire genre. I tried to think of an Australian 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.520 athlete that we have, potentially Bradman. Yep, but that's not 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:40.240 a sport that's competed in the Americas. So have we 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:41.960 ever had an athlete of that caliber. 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.880 It's a very big question, and I think the thing 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.800 is we have them domestically. Like you said, Bradman, Well, 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.680 cricket is a global sport, but it's almost like you 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.719 need to be on the radar in the US to 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.000 be that truly global name. And that's just the way 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:59.640 it works. With how much cut through American athletes have. 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.040 I mean, obviously we could talk about the Kathy Freemans 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.200 in terms of what they've meant to Australian athletics. But 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.920 on the world stage that was an amazing moment because 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.920 it was a home Olympics. But whether or not anyone 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:16.040 has that conversation about her globally as defining a sport, 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.040 I would say probably not, even though we would argue 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.160 that that was one of the greatest moments in Australian 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:22.000 sporting history. 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:24.200 But I think you need to. 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:28.480 Be attached to like a marquee event that is that 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:32.240 top event on the world stage and do well in it. 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.960 And the one hundred meter sprint and the two hundred meters, 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.280 but the one hundred meters sprint is probably the top 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.120 event in the Olympics. 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.440 And is the reason why I believe that Usain Bowles 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.640 is the greatest athlete we have ever seen. And when 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.560 I was looking back through his stats, the fact that 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:52.640 he went back to back to back over three Olympics 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.680 from two thousand and eight to twenty sixteen in both 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.720 the one hundred and two hundred meters still holds record 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:00.800 for both one hundred and two hundred meters in the 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.760 men's is the most phenomenal feat. And I've been lucky 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.680 enough to meet Usain Bolt. And I'm not sure did 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:08.640 you meet him when he was here in Australia doing press. 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:09.680 I did not meet him. 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.679 When you see Usain Bolt in the flesh, you think, yeah, 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:15.760 I actually believe you're the fastest man on earth. He 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.800 is six foot four and just looks like he was 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:24.760 built better than everyone else. And then comes along this kid, 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:32.560 this Ipswich grammar going Queenslander who is only just seventeen 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.480 and is being likened to the greatest of all time, 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.800 to the point where Bolt himself has gone, man, that 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:43.120 kid looks like me. He's the fastest ever Australian over 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.159 two hundred meters and in the last couple of weeks 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:49.000 has actually run under twenty seconds, which is mind boggling, 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:52.000 but it didn't count because it was wind assisted. But 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.440 we have a chance, and I'm putting it out there 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.120 to have someone that could be that good, that his 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:02.159 genre defining for the first time in Australian sporting history. 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.359 And I know that that's a lot of pressure to 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:08.080 put on seventeen year old shoulders, but the records are there. 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:12.840 He is the fastest sixteen year old ever, more than 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.760 Bolt ever, so running faster than Bolt at the same age. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.080 And I bring out these comparisons because that's when this 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.160 kid Gout Gout went viral. Is that people basically put 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:24.240 a split screen online and showed you Sain Bolt and 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:28.640 gout Gout running and the comparisons followed. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:29.600 So he actually appeared. 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:33.320 His first ever podcast was with Noah Lyles, who's the 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.480 current world one hundred meters champion casually and the fastest 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.760 manner of one hundred meters in the world at the moment, 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.400 and then Grant Holloway, who won the one hundred and 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.920 ten meter hurdles at Paris. So he appeared on their 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.920 podcast Beyond the Records and talked about this comparison that's 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:49.200 been following him. I say, his whole life, it's a 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.800 very short life. He burst onto the scene in twenty thirteen, 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:53.520 and the Bolt comparisons followed. 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.040 I mean exactly what you said. I'm trying to be 0:07:56.080 --> 0:08:00.480 in the next gout Gout and obviously being Pethew's Bolt, 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.640 everyone wants to be the next star basically, and you 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.800 send both the best friend so with no best athlete, 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.840 so being compared to him, it's obviously great. But then 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.600 I'm got gout, so I want to be able to 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.160 make my name as big as his name, and obviously 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:19.080 everyone people younger would be like, you're you're going to 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:22.120 be next go gout tub, So yeah, I want to 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.640 be like that. We just came up of twenty twenty four. 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:26.280 Don't you love him? 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:30.560 I think he seems like such a lovely young man. 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.840 He clearly has good people around him because that is 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:38.360 a huge label to have at his age, and when 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:42.120 you already are in that stratgy where the man himself 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.040 knows who you are, saying Bolt knows who you are. 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.800 He is saying you look like me. Of course everyone 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:52.280 pays attention. And now they're following this kid and he 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.520 is racing in Melbourne, but people are watching. When he 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.080 was racing in Queensland, I mean the crowd there, it 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.880 was there, but it wasn't anything astronomical. People are watching 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:03.720 and it's just going to keep growing for him. I 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.560 think it's so hard when they're that young to be 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.200 able to say in seven years at twenty thirty two, 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.000 because I know they have their eyes on that this 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.160 is what he could do. It is a long way 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:19.199 between now and then, and it's such a grind, but 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.719 it is so exciting. 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:22.760 It is so exciting. 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:24.480 Well, they ask him in that podcast what are you 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:28.240 going to do? And in twenty thirty two in Brisbane 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.800 he's like, I imagine I'm going to like get it. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:31.920 I'm going to get the whole. 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.960 Crowd to start seeing the national anthem is what he says, Like, 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.400 I'm going to run a lap, Everyone's going to start 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:41.359 singing Advance Australia Fair. There's going to be absolute pandemonium, 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.640 Like he's already painting the picture again talking to Noah 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.400 Lyles where he says in that podcast, I'm coming for 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.720 you like I am coming for you. And the reason 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:51.560 why he did actually get on that podcast is he 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:56.599 just signed a multi million dollar deal with addeddas Adidas 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:00.920 added as Potato Potato however you say it, seventeen and 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:04.439 signing a multi million dollar deal and this kid is 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:05.440 still at school. 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:07.240 Yep, he's still at school. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.920 So he's having to try to coordinate his running times 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.360 around I don't know, lunch recess. 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:13.600 He's a school prefect. 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:17.280 He's a classic overachiever apparently also a straight A student. 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:22.160 How do we the Australian public best, I guess, nurture 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:23.520 this kid or take care. 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.000 I want to take care of him and make sure 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:26.880 he still loves it. 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:27.559 Well. 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.320 I think the fact that he's at school is a 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:29.640 good thing. 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.800 The fact that he's living the life of a teenager, 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.080 of a seventeen year old who is going to school, 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:36.760 who has to sit in those lessons, who has to 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:40.040 do the crappy homework. He's around kids his age who 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:45.400 isn't just you know, at elite international destinations all the time, 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.640 with all the hot shots of the sport. I heard 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:52.520 something where someone said he needs to be racing with 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:56.120 kids his own age. He still needs to be around 0:10:56.240 --> 0:11:01.600 those mean have you seen I have seen racing kids 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:02.120 his own age. 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.880 I have seen it. In any other context, it would 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:05.840 be bullying, Laura. 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.680 I know, like, if my child's coming second, I'm calling 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.560 and being like is this necessary at this point? Because 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.720 at the two undermeter bend, when he's already finished, I 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:17.239 feel like this is a little demoralizing. And again for context, 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.280 this is a now seventeen year old who is running 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:25.439 times that would have had him sixth at the Paris Games. 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.840 So non is making the men's final and he's point 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.160 zero five of a second off running fourth. 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:31.560 Yep. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:36.000 The other thing is what I know sprinters, and this 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:40.079 is not gymnastics where they peak young sprinters are at 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.440 their best in their mid twenties. It happens to be 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.960 when this kid is going to be racing in Brisbane 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:49.280 and he happens to be a Brisbane native. The narrative 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.320 around it's almost so storybook that I feel like we 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:53.360 might stuff it up. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:54.240 See the thing. 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.280 Let's not make any sudden movements and just let him 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.480 be who he is. So he's still really really lean, 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.200 Like if you look at him when he runs, he 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:06.880 is so lean still. And someone like Usain Bolt, who 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:10.679 was very tall as well, had that kind of powerful 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.600 stature that you only get with the years of training 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.680 and as you develop into your body as a sprinter, 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:19.000 says she like she was a sprinter, was not do 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.959 not have the build of a spring. He's one hundred 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.160 and eighty centimeters, which is actually the same height as 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.520 Noel Arles we mentioned, a prolific two hundred meter runner 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:30.280 and the current men's one hundred meter champion from Paris. 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.440 So he's already at that height of grown men, Like 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.120 is he going to scale the heights of Usain Bolt? 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.400 Probably not to have that physique, but the comparisons in 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:44.240 their run. His starts are terrible, and I say terrible, 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.960 they're fantastic, but they're terrible by his own standards. And 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:50.000 then he almost seems the words of Kathy Freeman, he 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.480 looks like he shot out of a cannon with the 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.280 pace and the length of his strides that he hits 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.280 when he actually hits his full acceleration. So if he 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:02.360 can get his starts right, the sky's the limit for 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:02.880 this kid. 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.080 But that's what I mean. There's room for improvement with 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:07.080 someone that young. 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.240 And if he does have this aspect of his race 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.719 that he needs to improve the starting, well, he's got 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.480 the time to do it, doesn't he. And he's got 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.680 the scope to do it because he is still that young, 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.960 so he's not reached his full potential. And he's got 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:23.600 this ripping coach behind him who has this personality awesome 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:25.800 Dinky dye queen took. 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.160 A job at the didn't she take a job? 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.880 She took a job at the school canteen, the uniform 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.679 shop because you need the uniform shop because you needed 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.520 to have a job in the school in order to coach. 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:36.800 So that's what she did. Yep. 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.040 And she spotted this kid at under twelves and said 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.280 to him, I reckon, you can be something, And then 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.079 called James Templeton and said, I reckon, there's a guy 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.360 that you're going to need to manage here, and he said, 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.440 please tell me you're calling about gout gout. 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:49.920 Yep. The kid's thirteen. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:52.640 Like in my head, I'm like, what was I doing 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.600 at thirteen, probably trying to sneak into PG thirteen movies 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:59.439 at this stage of my life, like the pressure on this. 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:01.720 I just. 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.560 I want him to keep loving it, because if we 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.920 zoom out to what's happening at the moment in Australian sport, 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.000 you've got a kid like Harlie Reid who's nineteen playing 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.360 in Perth under the immense pressure that comes from being 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.480 in a two team town and such a high draft 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:24.000 pick in Perth. The media are going to follow your 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.680 every move and it's a level of celebrity that unless 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:27.240 you're from. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:28.280 Perth you probably can't understand. 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:32.080 That's all we have over there, okay, And everyone's talking 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.600 about how they manage him and how they care for him, 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.640 because it's just so much on his shoulders. He's nineteen. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:42.720 This kid is seventeen and the world is aware of him. 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:47.480 How do we keep him loving sport and not feeling 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.400 the pressure of it all? But he just seems to 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.480 have the disposition to handle it. 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.280 I think it's about the people around him, and he 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.640 seems to have a good team around him, and he 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:01.000 seems to have a very humble family, hard. 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.760 Working family, one of seven, yes, lots. 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.400 Of siblings, but also parents who've worked really hard to 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.000 get him to a private school, like not a well 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:13.680 to do family fled a civil war in South Sudan 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.600 to come to Australia. That's the backstory there, so we're 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.800 not talking about people who've had everything handed to them, 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:23.440 have actually come from tragedy and he I think it 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.520 sounds like he's got the people around him to keep 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.360 him humble. I think he's in a sport where you 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.760 can shield them a little bit because they're not playing 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.320 a match week in week out, like Harlee Reid is 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:37.120 with AFL, where he's on TV every week, where there's 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.480 an audience that will scrutinize him every week. 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:41.840 This is not what this sport is. 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.760 So you can send them over to America, you can 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:48.800 train with the stars. That's all probably done quite privately. 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.560 We can't get in there, or you know, reporters can't 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.720 get in there, and then they go to these meets 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:55.960 and that's when you really get to see how they're going. 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.120 But they're not sort of week in week out, so 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.880 I feel like that helps a little bit. But maybe 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.120 I mean, for the first time we're seeing something like 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.920 the Murray plant meat and if you're saying the pardon 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.240 of the water, that's because it's never been broadcasted. 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.200 It's on free to wear this weekend and the ticket 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.880 sales have been crazy to see this kid. 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.880 And we've got Bruce mcavany, Jason Richardson, I mean, you've 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.960 got Dave, Colbert, Tamson, Manu, like all of these names 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:25.400 that usually cover Olympic events are covering this meet and 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:26.600 it's going to be on primetime. 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:28.080 So what it's going to do for athletics. 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.720 And the other thing is I've listened to Patrick Johnson 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:32.600 talk about this kid, and of course he's the only 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.600 ever Australian to run sub ten seconds over the one 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.440 hundred meters, so he is the one that gout is 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.600 essentially chasing down pun intended. And he said, it's just 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.760 important that we make sure that this kid keeps enjoying 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.920 running and that he doesn't get poached by other sports 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.840 because he's like so often we have promising athletes. And 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:52.560 he was a football fan, is in the round ball 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:56.560 game growing up, and football is obviously so lucrative and 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:58.920 a global sport that it starts to attract them away 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.240 so early. He was like, keep him in track and 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.639 field and keep him happy is the key to his 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:06.919 persistence in this. But that's the other thing, like the 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.760 thought of having an Aussie in the one hundred meter 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:13.800 final blows my mind at a Games, and the thought 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:18.639 of it being into Brisbane Games, I don't know, I'm. 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:19.960 So bullish about it. It's so exciting. 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.640 And again just to see track and field followed this way, 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:27.960 I can't remember an Australian athlete being this promising. Well, 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:31.440 we've always been the swimming nation, right, everyone always goes, oh, yeah, 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.800 there's always good swimmers in Australia, but track and field 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:37.600 at the moment, we've actually got some red hot I know, 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.280 she's amazing and I just sort of think, you know, 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.359 but traditionally, obviously we haven't been churning them out to 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.000 the levels that we have with swimming, which you know 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:50.879 very clearly for such a small country by sea. We 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:54.320 are by sea, and so this is why when you 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.639 get someone of this caliber in Australia in this event, 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:02.080 which is so hard to crack, this is why you 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.720 get this level of attention because we just don't have 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.160 for whatever reason, that's just not what we're producing most 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:14.199 of the time. One hundred meter metal contenders, and you 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.280 know he says that's what he wants and that he 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.040 will be a medal contender. His coach believes it, his 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:23.960 manager believes it. There's sprinters and it's why I love it. 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.680 They can have this bravado about them, like there's something 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:29.960 of course like Sprint on Netflix, Who've spoken about in 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:30.680 this podcast before. 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:31.520 I'm obsessed with it. 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:35.480 And they have this swagger right and this belief of 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:36.360 I'm the greatest. 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:37.119 Just asked me. 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.560 And the wonderful thing about Gout is that he has 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:44.400 that and yet he's still likable. He's saying to Noel Las, 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:46.719 I'm coming for a spot, I'm coming, and yet I 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:48.600 still think that if you ask him for a photo 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.520 that he'd be completely humble about it. And I think 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:53.639 that that is the beauty of it. He's managed to 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:57.480 have that balance between this almost all American attitude with 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.680