1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Here at Two Good Sports. 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: We would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,119 Speaker 2: land on which we record this podcast. 4 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 3: There were innerie people. This land was never seated, always 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 3: was always will be. 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 4: Hello and welcome to two Good Sports and sports news 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 4: told differently. I'm maybe Jelly, and the reason that I'm 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 4: doing the lead in is we don't have a Georgie Tunney. 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 4: She is off doing the Amazing Race, just a little 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 4: run around the planet. But we're joined by the wonderful 11 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 4: three aw football presenter a new title, Laura Spurway. 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Welcome Abby Jelly. It's good to be here again. 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 3: And imagine my shock when I heard that Georgie Tunny 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 3: might be doing well at the Amazing Race. 15 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: Well you mentioned that. 16 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 4: I did say to George and like, come on, give 17 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 4: us a little pre record so we can put it 18 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 4: in for the Good Sport. How are you doing? 19 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: Where are you? 20 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 4: I miss so terribly, But let's have a listen. This 21 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 4: is Georgie's secret message for listeners. 22 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: Well, well, well, hi there, dear listeners. Georgie Tunny reporting 23 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: from an undisclosed location. I'm currently doing something rather amazing. 24 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: I can't tell you where I am. I can't tell 25 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: you what I've been doing. I can tell you though 26 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: of particular interest for all of our diehard listeners, and 27 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: tell me that I've made friends with a dolphin. I've 28 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: done it, guys, I've done an olympian and myself, Bronte Campbell, 29 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: we are friends? 30 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: Now? 31 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: How do we get that way? Can't reveal too much. 32 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: I hope you are all fantastic. Jell me. 33 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: I miss your gorgeous face, and. 34 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: Do not fretch. I'll be back as soon as possible. 35 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: Letting you know every single thought that has ever entered 36 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: my head? 37 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: Miss you? 38 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: Why did that feel like an episode of Gossip Girl? 39 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: Like was she going to sign off with xex? 40 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: So I'm intrigued. 41 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 4: Well, the good thing is you can pencil in Bronchie 42 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 4: Campbell as a future guest. 43 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: That's going to be good. 44 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 4: But the thing, the smoky thing about George is she's 45 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 4: an elite swimmer. She's actually a great swimmer, but cannot 46 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: reverse parallel to save a life. Her car looks like 47 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 4: it's bashed up, so if there's anything that requires her 48 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: to drag and say this, she can barely ride a bike. 49 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: So the fact that they're doing so well good on it, 50 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 4: I'm proud of her. It's her and a partner Rob, 51 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 4: as you may know from os Idol or Robert Millsey Mills. 52 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: So while we. 53 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 4: Miss her, we are pushing on and we'll just wait 54 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 4: and see when she returns. 55 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: I love this. 56 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: It's an unknown. It's an unknown, but I'm reading for. 57 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: When I found out that she was doing it, I thought, oh, 58 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: she's going to kill this. The two of them together 59 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: are going to kill this. 60 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: You say that. 61 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 4: She called me and she was like, so it occurred 62 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 4: to me that, like, this is a race. She's like, 63 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: I just watched and they spend very little time walking. 64 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 4: There's this awkward shuffle they all have to do. Is 65 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 4: that part of what I have to do? And I'm like, babe, 66 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 4: it's in the title amazing race. You're probably going to 67 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 4: have to get some gusto steps up. 68 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: Run on camera at some point. Everyone's how do you reckon? 69 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 3: You would do running on camera or just being in 70 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 3: an amazing race? 71 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: I would never do it. 72 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: It would bring out I need to be three hours 73 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 4: early for an airport without being an anxious mess. And 74 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: then on top of that, I'm the most competitive person 75 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 4: you've ever met, So. 76 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: You would do well? 77 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: Oh would paint me so poorly though, no one would 78 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 4: ever want to be my friend again. 79 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: I am that person that needs find my car every 80 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: day of the week. My basic navigational skills are horrendous, 81 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: so I feel I would be a liability. Well, in 82 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: good news, you and I don't have to do an 83 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: amazing anything, but we do today need to talk about 84 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: an amazing athlete. 85 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: Gout, gout. 86 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: It's two syllables that have taken over the Australian sporting landscape. 87 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: Never before, or in our generation, has there been an 88 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 4: athlete so promising over the sprint over the Glamour distances 89 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: of one hundred and two hundred meters. And this kid 90 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: is just seventeen and ahead of the Morrow Plant Meet 91 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 4: this weekend. We want to talk about why he could 92 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: reshape world sport that's coming up. 93 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: So, Laura, I've got a question for you. 94 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 4: Do we have an Australian athlete that has ever defined 95 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 4: a sport? So when I say this, I mean when 96 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 4: you think about basketball, you think about Jordan, When you 97 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: think about golf, you think about woods. I mean with 98 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 4: swimming it was Phelps that you've got Ali Simone Biles. 99 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 4: I mean, have I only said Americans to this point. Absolutely, 100 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 4: So you've also got to think about Ronaldo Messi. These 101 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 4: athletes that come along that are that good, they define 102 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: an entire genre. I tried to think of an Australian 103 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: athlete that we have, potentially Bradman. Yep, but that's not 104 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 4: a sport that's competed in the Americas. So have we 105 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: ever had an athlete of that caliber. 106 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: It's a very big question, and I think the thing 107 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: is we have them domestically. Like you said, Bradman, Well, 108 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: cricket is a global sport, but it's almost like you 109 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: need to be on the radar in the US to 110 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: be that truly global name. And that's just the way 111 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: it works. With how much cut through American athletes have. 112 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously we could talk about the Kathy Freemans 113 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: in terms of what they've meant to Australian athletics. But 114 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 3: on the world stage that was an amazing moment because 115 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 3: it was a home Olympics. But whether or not anyone 116 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 3: has that conversation about her globally as defining a sport, 117 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 3: I would say probably not, even though we would argue 118 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: that that was one of the greatest moments in Australian 119 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: sporting history. 120 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: But I think you need to. 121 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 3: Be attached to like a marquee event that is that 122 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: top event on the world stage and do well in it. 123 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: And the one hundred meter sprint and the two hundred meters, 124 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: but the one hundred meters sprint is probably the top 125 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: event in the Olympics. 126 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: And is the reason why I believe that Usain Bowles 127 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: is the greatest athlete we have ever seen. And when 128 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: I was looking back through his stats, the fact that 129 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: he went back to back to back over three Olympics 130 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: from two thousand and eight to twenty sixteen in both 131 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 3: the one hundred and two hundred meters still holds record 132 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: for both one hundred and two hundred meters in the 133 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: men's is the most phenomenal feat. And I've been lucky 134 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: enough to meet Usain Bolt. And I'm not sure did 135 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: you meet him when he was here in Australia doing press. 136 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: I did not meet him. 137 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 3: When you see Usain Bolt in the flesh, you think, yeah, 138 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: I actually believe you're the fastest man on earth. He 139 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: is six foot four and just looks like he was 140 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: built better than everyone else. And then comes along this kid, 141 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: this Ipswich grammar going Queenslander who is only just seventeen 142 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: and is being likened to the greatest of all time, 143 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: to the point where Bolt himself has gone, man, that 144 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: kid looks like me. He's the fastest ever Australian over 145 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 3: two hundred meters and in the last couple of weeks 146 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: has actually run under twenty seconds, which is mind boggling, 147 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: but it didn't count because it was wind assisted. But 148 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: we have a chance, and I'm putting it out there 149 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: to have someone that could be that good, that his 150 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 3: genre defining for the first time in Australian sporting history. 151 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 3: And I know that that's a lot of pressure to 152 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: put on seventeen year old shoulders, but the records are there. 153 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: He is the fastest sixteen year old ever, more than 154 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: Bolt ever, so running faster than Bolt at the same age. 155 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: And I bring out these comparisons because that's when this 156 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: kid Gout Gout went viral. Is that people basically put 157 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: a split screen online and showed you Sain Bolt and 158 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: gout Gout running and the comparisons followed. 159 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: So he actually appeared. 160 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 4: His first ever podcast was with Noah Lyles, who's the 161 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: current world one hundred meters champion casually and the fastest 162 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 4: manner of one hundred meters in the world at the moment, 163 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 4: and then Grant Holloway, who won the one hundred and 164 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 4: ten meter hurdles at Paris. So he appeared on their 165 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: podcast Beyond the Records and talked about this comparison that's 166 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 4: been following him. I say, his whole life, it's a 167 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 4: very short life. He burst onto the scene in twenty thirteen, 168 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 4: and the Bolt comparisons followed. 169 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 5: I mean exactly what you said. I'm trying to be 170 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 5: in the next gout Gout and obviously being Pethew's Bolt, 171 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 5: everyone wants to be the next star basically, and you 172 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 5: send both the best friend so with no best athlete, 173 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 5: so being compared to him, it's obviously great. But then 174 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 5: I'm got gout, so I want to be able to 175 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 5: make my name as big as his name, and obviously 176 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 5: everyone people younger would be like, you're you're going to 177 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 5: be next go gout tub, So yeah, I want to 178 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 5: be like that. We just came up of twenty twenty four. 179 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: Don't you love him? 180 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: I think he seems like such a lovely young man. 181 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: He clearly has good people around him because that is 182 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: a huge label to have at his age, and when 183 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: you already are in that stratgy where the man himself 184 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: knows who you are, saying Bolt knows who you are. 185 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: He is saying you look like me. Of course everyone 186 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: pays attention. And now they're following this kid and he 187 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: is racing in Melbourne, but people are watching. When he 188 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: was racing in Queensland, I mean the crowd there, it 189 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: was there, but it wasn't anything astronomical. People are watching 190 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: and it's just going to keep growing for him. I 191 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 3: think it's so hard when they're that young to be 192 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: able to say in seven years at twenty thirty two, 193 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: because I know they have their eyes on that this 194 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: is what he could do. It is a long way 195 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 3: between now and then, and it's such a grind, but 196 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 3: it is so exciting. 197 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: It is so exciting. 198 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: Well, they ask him in that podcast what are you 199 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: going to do? And in twenty thirty two in Brisbane 200 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: he's like, I imagine I'm going to like get it. 201 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to get the whole. 202 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 4: Crowd to start seeing the national anthem is what he says, Like, 203 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 4: I'm going to run a lap, Everyone's going to start 204 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,359 Speaker 4: singing Advance Australia Fair. There's going to be absolute pandemonium, 205 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: Like he's already painting the picture again talking to Noah 206 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 4: Lyles where he says in that podcast, I'm coming for 207 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 4: you like I am coming for you. And the reason 208 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 4: why he did actually get on that podcast is he 209 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 4: just signed a multi million dollar deal with addeddas Adidas 210 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 4: added as Potato Potato however you say it, seventeen and 211 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 4: signing a multi million dollar deal and this kid is 212 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 4: still at school. 213 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: Yep, he's still at school. 214 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: So he's having to try to coordinate his running times 215 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 4: around I don't know, lunch recess. 216 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: He's a school prefect. 217 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: He's a classic overachiever apparently also a straight A student. 218 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 4: How do we the Australian public best, I guess, nurture 219 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: this kid or take care. 220 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: I want to take care of him and make sure 221 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: he still loves it. 222 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 2: Well. 223 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: I think the fact that he's at school is a 224 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: good thing. 225 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: The fact that he's living the life of a teenager, 226 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: of a seventeen year old who is going to school, 227 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: who has to sit in those lessons, who has to 228 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: do the crappy homework. He's around kids his age who 229 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: isn't just you know, at elite international destinations all the time, 230 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: with all the hot shots of the sport. I heard 231 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: something where someone said he needs to be racing with 232 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: kids his own age. He still needs to be around 233 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: those mean have you seen I have seen racing kids 234 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: his own age. 235 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: I have seen it. In any other context, it would 236 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: be bullying, Laura. 237 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 4: I know, like, if my child's coming second, I'm calling 238 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 4: and being like is this necessary at this point? Because 239 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 4: at the two undermeter bend, when he's already finished, I 240 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,239 Speaker 4: feel like this is a little demoralizing. And again for context, 241 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: this is a now seventeen year old who is running 242 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 4: times that would have had him sixth at the Paris Games. 243 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 4: So non is making the men's final and he's point 244 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 4: zero five of a second off running fourth. 245 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: Yep. 246 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: The other thing is what I know sprinters, and this 247 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 3: is not gymnastics where they peak young sprinters are at 248 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: their best in their mid twenties. It happens to be 249 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 3: when this kid is going to be racing in Brisbane 250 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: and he happens to be a Brisbane native. The narrative 251 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 3: around it's almost so storybook that I feel like we 252 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: might stuff it up. 253 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: See the thing. 254 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: Let's not make any sudden movements and just let him 255 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: be who he is. So he's still really really lean, 256 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 3: Like if you look at him when he runs, he 257 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: is so lean still. And someone like Usain Bolt, who 258 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 3: was very tall as well, had that kind of powerful 259 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: stature that you only get with the years of training 260 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 3: and as you develop into your body as a sprinter, 261 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: says she like she was a sprinter, was not do 262 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 3: not have the build of a spring. He's one hundred 263 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: and eighty centimeters, which is actually the same height as 264 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: Noel Arles we mentioned, a prolific two hundred meter runner 265 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: and the current men's one hundred meter champion from Paris. 266 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 3: So he's already at that height of grown men, Like 267 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: is he going to scale the heights of Usain Bolt? 268 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: Probably not to have that physique, but the comparisons in 269 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: their run. His starts are terrible, and I say terrible, 270 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: they're fantastic, but they're terrible by his own standards. And 271 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: then he almost seems the words of Kathy Freeman, he 272 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: looks like he shot out of a cannon with the 273 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: pace and the length of his strides that he hits 274 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: when he actually hits his full acceleration. So if he 275 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: can get his starts right, the sky's the limit for 276 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 3: this kid. 277 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: But that's what I mean. There's room for improvement with 278 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: someone that young. 279 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: And if he does have this aspect of his race 280 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 3: that he needs to improve the starting, well, he's got 281 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: the time to do it, doesn't he. And he's got 282 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 3: the scope to do it because he is still that young, 283 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: so he's not reached his full potential. And he's got 284 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: this ripping coach behind him who has this personality awesome 285 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: Dinky dye queen took. 286 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: A job at the didn't she take a job? 287 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: She took a job at the school canteen, the uniform 288 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 4: shop because you need the uniform shop because you needed 289 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 4: to have a job in the school in order to coach. 290 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: So that's what she did. Yep. 291 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: And she spotted this kid at under twelves and said 292 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: to him, I reckon, you can be something, And then 293 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 3: called James Templeton and said, I reckon, there's a guy 294 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: that you're going to need to manage here, and he said, 295 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 3: please tell me you're calling about gout gout. 296 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: Yep. The kid's thirteen. 297 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 4: Like in my head, I'm like, what was I doing 298 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 4: at thirteen, probably trying to sneak into PG thirteen movies 299 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 4: at this stage of my life, like the pressure on this. 300 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: I just. 301 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 4: I want him to keep loving it, because if we 302 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 4: zoom out to what's happening at the moment in Australian sport, 303 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: you've got a kid like Harlie Reid who's nineteen playing 304 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 4: in Perth under the immense pressure that comes from being 305 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 4: in a two team town and such a high draft 306 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 4: pick in Perth. The media are going to follow your 307 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 4: every move and it's a level of celebrity that unless 308 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 4: you're from. 309 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: Perth you probably can't understand. 310 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 4: That's all we have over there, okay, And everyone's talking 311 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 4: about how they manage him and how they care for him, 312 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 4: because it's just so much on his shoulders. He's nineteen. 313 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: This kid is seventeen and the world is aware of him. 314 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 4: How do we keep him loving sport and not feeling 315 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 4: the pressure of it all? But he just seems to 316 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: have the disposition to handle it. 317 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: I think it's about the people around him, and he 318 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: seems to have a good team around him, and he 319 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 3: seems to have a very humble family, hard. 320 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: Working family, one of seven, yes, lots. 321 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: Of siblings, but also parents who've worked really hard to 322 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: get him to a private school, like not a well 323 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: to do family fled a civil war in South Sudan 324 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 3: to come to Australia. That's the backstory there, so we're 325 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: not talking about people who've had everything handed to them, 326 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: have actually come from tragedy and he I think it 327 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: sounds like he's got the people around him to keep 328 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: him humble. I think he's in a sport where you 329 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: can shield them a little bit because they're not playing 330 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: a match week in week out, like Harlee Reid is 331 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: with AFL, where he's on TV every week, where there's 332 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: an audience that will scrutinize him every week. 333 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: This is not what this sport is. 334 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: So you can send them over to America, you can 335 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: train with the stars. That's all probably done quite privately. 336 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: We can't get in there, or you know, reporters can't 337 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: get in there, and then they go to these meets 338 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: and that's when you really get to see how they're going. 339 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: But they're not sort of week in week out, so 340 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: I feel like that helps a little bit. But maybe 341 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: I mean, for the first time we're seeing something like 342 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: the Murray plant meat and if you're saying the pardon 343 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: of the water, that's because it's never been broadcasted. 344 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: It's on free to wear this weekend and the ticket 345 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: sales have been crazy to see this kid. 346 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: And we've got Bruce mcavany, Jason Richardson, I mean, you've 347 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: got Dave, Colbert, Tamson, Manu, like all of these names 348 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: that usually cover Olympic events are covering this meet and 349 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: it's going to be on primetime. 350 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: So what it's going to do for athletics. 351 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 4: And the other thing is I've listened to Patrick Johnson 352 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 4: talk about this kid, and of course he's the only 353 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 4: ever Australian to run sub ten seconds over the one 354 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: hundred meters, so he is the one that gout is 355 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 4: essentially chasing down pun intended. And he said, it's just 356 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 4: important that we make sure that this kid keeps enjoying 357 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 4: running and that he doesn't get poached by other sports 358 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: because he's like so often we have promising athletes. And 359 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 4: he was a football fan, is in the round ball 360 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 4: game growing up, and football is obviously so lucrative and 361 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 4: a global sport that it starts to attract them away 362 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: so early. He was like, keep him in track and 363 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 4: field and keep him happy is the key to his 364 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 4: persistence in this. But that's the other thing, like the 365 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 4: thought of having an Aussie in the one hundred meter 366 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 4: final blows my mind at a Games, and the thought 367 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 4: of it being into Brisbane Games, I don't know, I'm. 368 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: So bullish about it. It's so exciting. 369 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 3: And again just to see track and field followed this way, 370 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: I can't remember an Australian athlete being this promising. Well, 371 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 3: we've always been the swimming nation, right, everyone always goes, oh, yeah, 372 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: there's always good swimmers in Australia, but track and field 373 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 3: at the moment, we've actually got some red hot I know, 374 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: she's amazing and I just sort of think, you know, 375 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 3: but traditionally, obviously we haven't been churning them out to 376 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: the levels that we have with swimming, which you know 377 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 3: very clearly for such a small country by sea. We 378 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: are by sea, and so this is why when you 379 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: get someone of this caliber in Australia in this event, 380 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: which is so hard to crack, this is why you 381 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 3: get this level of attention because we just don't have 382 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, that's just not what we're producing most 383 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 3: of the time. One hundred meter metal contenders, and you 384 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: know he says that's what he wants and that he 385 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: will be a medal contender. His coach believes it, his 386 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: manager believes it. There's sprinters and it's why I love it. 387 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 3: They can have this bravado about them, like there's something 388 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 3: of course like Sprint on Netflix, Who've spoken about in 389 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 3: this podcast before. 390 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with it. 391 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: And they have this swagger right and this belief of 392 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 3: I'm the greatest. 393 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: Just asked me. 394 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: And the wonderful thing about Gout is that he has 395 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 3: that and yet he's still likable. He's saying to Noel Las, 396 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 3: I'm coming for a spot, I'm coming, and yet I 397 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: still think that if you ask him for a photo 398 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: that he'd be completely humble about it. And I think 399 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 3: that that is the beauty of it. He's managed to 400 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: have that balance between this almost all American attitude with 401 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 3: the Australian humility that where just putting him on a 402 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 3: pedestal and I am I'm so about it and I 403 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: just can't wait to watch same. And what I like 404 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 3: about Noah Lyles is that you know he knows he's 405 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 3: at the top, but he hears him say I'm coming 406 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: for you, and he goes. 407 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that, Yeah, I like that chan come 408 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: for me, Like. 409 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: He actually embraces it, because that's what keeps them competitive, 410 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 3: that's what keeps them at the top of their game, 411 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 3: is that they need these younger sprinters coming up, nipping 412 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 3: at their heels saying I'm coming. 413 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: What I find I think the thing is. 414 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: We know that he competed in the Under twenty World Championships. 415 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 3: He got second, he was beaten by I think it 416 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 3: was a South African sprinter who is eighteen months older 417 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: than him. I mean that's another young person. So there 418 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 3: are these other sprinters coming up in other countries. We've 419 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 3: seen it in Australia who have had promising juniors that 420 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: just haven't met their potential. 421 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 422 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 3: So it is still a long way away, and it 423 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 3: is so much about cultivating, as you said, his enjoyment 424 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 3: of it, because that's what keeps you going to these 425 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: grueling training sessions. If you don't love it, it becomes 426 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 3: a burden. And then that's where I don't see how 427 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 3: you can sustain a future in it. But he's got 428 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: the backing, he's got the multimillion dollar deal already, so. 429 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 4: I'm just going to put it out there on a 430 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 4: scale of one two, I'm bloody furious. How terrible is 431 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 4: it that we don't have the COMM Games here next year? 432 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: Oh you know what. 433 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: Hasn't that age horrendously thinking in the athlete that we have. 434 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: I was thinking about that. It is a really saw. 435 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: Wrench free in my mind that we are still paying 436 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: for that, I know, for nothing. And this is the thing. 437 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: We might get him at the twenty twenty eight Olympics, 438 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: but that's in LA that's not here, So it's going 439 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: to be seven years before he might be at this 440 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 3: global event in Australia. 441 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: I know. 442 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: It's a real shame. 443 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 4: The one thing that we will say is that there 444 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 4: are track and field meets in Australia all the time. 445 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 4: They've just been off Broadway, and this kid is bringing 446 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 4: them to the forefront. So I will be watching, and 447 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 4: I know that you will be this Saturday. And to 448 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 4: even be able to speak about track and field the 449 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 4: year after a Games with this much excitement and intent, 450 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 4: and what that will mean for young kids that meet 451 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 4: out and think, oh, yeah, you know what, I will 452 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 4: do athletics, I will do that sort of training. I 453 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 4: just think this is going to be generational. Is he 454 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 4: the greatest ever? Potentially? 455 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: I think so, and that is bloody cool. Laura. 456 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: I'm glad to hear because we now have a fun 457 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 3: fact and I actually am going to have our first 458 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 3: ever fun fact retraction on. 459 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 4: Two good scales. It has taken us three seasons to 460 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 4: get here. Earlier this season, I said to Georgie one 461 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 4: of the inns for the year was going to be 462 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 4: Gout Gout. Let's just say it's already aged incredibly well. 463 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 4: To me, that's one win for Jelmy. But I then said, 464 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 4: fun fact, his name is gua Quatch. Oh yeah, played 465 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 4: the clip of his own dad, and I thought, don't 466 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: need to fact check this guy is his genetic father. 467 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 4: I don't need to check that that's right. Turns Out 468 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 4: Gout then turned around and I was like, Dad, I've been 469 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 4: called Gout my whole life. 470 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: I'm not changing my name. 471 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 3: So the media has had this headspin, including myself, where 472 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: I've gone, oh, how terrible that we just didn't fact 473 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 3: check how to say this kid's name. It's Guaquat, better 474 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 3: go and tell everyone to say it correctly. And then 475 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: the kid himself has gone, it's giving a parent that's like, no, 476 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 3: it's not Darce, it's Darse. Like don't you think those 477 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 3: like oh no, no, gab No, it's Gabrielle, Like you 478 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 3: know when you just want things pronounced and your kid's like, mate, 479 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: it's like I've been called Gabby my whole life. 480 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: Let it go. 481 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: So my son's name is Darcy. If he turned around 482 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 3: and said I'd like to be known as Darse, I 483 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 3: would be like, you are setting yourself up. You don't, 484 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: You are setting yourself up and I. 485 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,239 Speaker 1: Can't save you. 486 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: But can you imagine being gout and watching his dad's 487 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 4: press conference and being like, yeah, cool. So for sixteen years, 488 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 4: goutgout flew, but now you're like, ooh, not sure, that 489 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 4: sounds so attractive. I'm just gonna change it up. So anyway, 490 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 4: I need to correct my own fact. So, if you've 491 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 4: listened to this whole podcast going, didn't Abby tell us 492 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 4: earlier in the season that it was guaquat has she 493 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 4: just reverted here? No, we've heard it from his mouth. 494 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: He says it at the opening of that pod. If 495 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 4: Bruce McAvaney says it, you know it's true. And he 496 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 4: said that as well. So it's gout gout. But I'm 497 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 4: gonna circle back to Usain Bolt. Now, this is a 498 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 4: fun fact that you may know, but I feel like 499 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 4: the general listener. For whatever reason, this was glazed over 500 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 4: by the Australian public and it's one of my favorite 501 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 4: sporting fund facts in the country. 502 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: Usain Bolt played in the A League. Ah, yes see, 503 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: you say, oh yes, I reckon. 504 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 4: The average Australian says, oh what he And not only that, 505 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 4: we're not talking Melbourne City, We're not talking victory. He 506 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 4: certainly wasn't for this Blues. The Central Coast Mariners boasted 507 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 4: the greatest athlete of all time in their lineup in 508 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 4: the late twenty teens and it was remarkable. 509 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: I was working at Fox Sport at the time. 510 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: I remember going, so he's just two hours out of Sydney, 511 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 4: is this what's happening right now? And played and again 512 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 4: he's come out and since said it was a mistake. 513 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah see, this is what I thought. 514 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: Has he ever come out and gone I want to 515 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 3: tell you about that time I played for the Central 516 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 3: Coast Mariners in Australia. 517 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: Like, is that on his list? 518 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 4: If you google it, and you will be googling it 519 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 4: because you want to see Usain Bolt in the Blue 520 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 4: and Navy and it is a shock to the system, 521 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 4: let me tell you. But if you google it you 522 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 4: will find it an Olympics an article by Olympics dot 523 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 4: Com where he essentially goes it was a mistake. 524 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: I should have stayed in Europe. 525 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 3: I didn't want to play football in Europe because I thought, 526 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 3: you know, it'll be all about me and I don't 527 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: want that. 528 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: So I went to the. 529 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 4: Furthest place I could think of, which is to bury 530 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 4: himself on the central Coast of Australia and and then 531 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 4: essentially you dine around him, was like, yeah, probably should date. 532 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: In Europe with the quality of football. Well, yeah, yeah, 533 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: I made a mistake. 534 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 3: Oh the poor Central Coast Mariners are probably like biggest 535 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 3: coop ever. 536 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: And then he's turned around and gone. 537 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 4: Which explains why he was always at the Melbourne Cup. Yeah, 538 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: I remember how he randomly popped up at events in 539 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 4: Australia and you're. 540 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: Like, hello, Well, his mates with John Stephenson, right, So 541 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 3: there was a period where the two of them, I 542 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 3: think they are still friends actually, but they were kind 543 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: of thick of thieves when John was running I mean 544 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: four hundred meters was his pet events. So they used 545 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 3: to hang out quite a bit, and I think that 546 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 3: was part of the reason that he was out there. 547 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: The reason I know this is that I have an 548 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 3: acquaintance who used to date John and Usain may have 549 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 3: been around in. 550 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: A hot tub at some point. There you go, I 551 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: was not there. Why does that sound like the start 552 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: of a bad joke. I was not there, That's all 553 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: I'll say. 554 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 3: Right, However, they were friends, they used to party together, 555 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 3: and I think that was the reason why he spent 556 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: a bit of time down under. 557 00:25:59,440 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 1: But there you go. 558 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was about to say he probably enjoyed 559 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 4: the relative anonymity that he has down here. But you 560 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 4: can't have anonymity when you're six foot four and your 561 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 4: u same bolt. 562 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: That's the easy look and go wow, that's the tall person. 563 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: Then you go wow, that is the fastest man on earth. 564 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: Like there's layers to it. 565 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 3: And this will be gout, gout as well, Like it 566 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 3: will get to a point where he will be walking 567 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: wherever he's walking and says he gets stopped. He gets stopped, 568 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 3: doesn't surprise the supermarket. Let people know who he is. 569 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: Yep, yep. Would I ask for a photo. Yes I would. 570 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: I would to thank you for listening to do good 571 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: sports sports news. Doore differently? Am I going to ask 572 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: there one more questions about the hot tub? You better 573 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: believe it. Laura, thank you so much for joining 574 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 4: Us and listeners will catch you next week, but until then, 575 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 4: be a good sport.