WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - It's Just a Joke 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.800 Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:06.520 were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:07.600 past and present. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:11.399 Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:13.360 recorded on Drug Wallamuta Land. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:23.880 Hi guys, and. 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.160 Welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:31.720 I'm Laura and I'm hungover. What is with that? You're 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:32.520 on Struggle Street? 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:37.120 Laura, I had a midweek drink. No, we went out 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.599 last night. We had a thinging on last night. We 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:43.040 were on a boat in the Overseas Passenger Terminal. 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:44.120 Richard Branson brought his. 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.600 Big ass cruise ship in it, parked. 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.319 It in Sydney for the night and we got to go. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:51.720 And I mean it wasn't we Literally three quarters of 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.160 Sydney was on this thing. Every single person who was 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.360 into the public, anyone who had a pulse was on 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:57.200 this thing last night. 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:58.240 It was amazing. 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:02.520 And I ank a lot for a week night. It's 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:04.759 very rare that I get a night out, and when 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:06.640 I do, I like to celebrate. 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:08.040 It's just a shame that this one was on a 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.920 Wednesday night. You love a Margie, You do love a Margie. 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:12.200 And I detest a margie. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.320 So I will never ever to the day I die 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:16.080 drink a margarite with you, no offense. 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:17.840 That's all right, We're gonna have other things. There's other 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:19.360 things for us to celebrate. Din't you tell at what 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:23.160 you did last night? You cheated on Matt. You tried 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:27.080 to cheat on math. That needs some context. 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.160 Okay, So we're standing there, there's like this big group 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.440 of people. Just so you can really understand what happened, 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.640 we're sending this big group of people. Matt was wearing 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.680 a gray suit. He looked sharp, he looked handsome. He 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:38.280 did he did, and it was like this. 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.679 Silky material, not silky, but like had a bit of 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:42.520 a sheen to it. 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.080 Right, Yeah, so when you touched it, it felt like 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:48.160 a little bit saturnat One might say, can I realize 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:48.400 it's like. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.720 A tiny bit of a shine cotton night it felt? 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:52.360 I mean, I didn't rub him, so I don't know. 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:54.200 I think I'm one of those people that are quite 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.520 tact her like I quite what's the right word for it. 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.920 There's like a specific word if you're someone who's sents 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.160 free from touch, tact that's tactor. 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.200 No. I think that there's another word for it, you're 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.000 just hyper sensitive to feelings. 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.360 Yeah, Like I really enjoy the touch of things. Right, 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.320 So I was in chatting and I was in the 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.320 middle of a conversation with someone, and I reached out 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.160 and there was mad and I was like rubbing Matt's back. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.600 And I was just rubbing Matt's back for a while anyway. 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.200 Then I could feel the mat was looking at me, 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.560 and I was like, oh, like and like but looking 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.960 at me in a way that didn't feel from my 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:26.360 periphery like it was normal. And I turned around and 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:30.200 it wasn't mad at all. I was rubbing Tim Robart's 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:35.200 back like just coincidentally, the wrong bachelor was standing next 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.720 to me, and I was just rubbing him. And now, look, 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.120 contrary to popular belief, we don't know each other very well. 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.360 I've only met him twice and I was just rubbing. 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:48.880 How long is like more than a minute, like more 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:50.880 than a full minute of me rubbing my hand in 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.080 the circle on his back, just round. 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.800 Him, rubbing him for a minute. Well, I think he 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:57.040 was just confused. 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.160 I think he might have thought that I was like 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.480 getting his attention to then say something to him, But 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.240 I just didn't turn to him at all. 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:04.160 I just kept rubbing. 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.960 Anyway, It's a pretty long time he's done a plank. 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:10.800 It was an uncomfortably long time. Hence why when he 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:12.320 turned to look at me, because I was full in 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.639 conversation with someone else, so he didn't want to interrupt me. 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:16.760 I think he thought I was doing it on purpose. 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:18.919 And then he kind of looked at me, like are 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:19.320 you right? 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:21.960 What did he say? He just looked at me really odd, 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:23.679 and I was like, oh my god. When I looked 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:25.080 at him, and I was like, I'm so sorry. 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.519 I thought you were mat And then at this point 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.000 I dragged him through the crowd so that I could 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.160 show him that him and Matt were wearing the exact 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.720 same suit, which is awkward for them, but more awkward 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.000 for me. Apparently suppose that, oh yeah, I'm gonna put 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:39.360 this on the socials guys right now. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.760 Actually that's allow, I'll do it tomorrow because we're talking there. 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.040 I took a photo of them back to back because 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.120 I was like, no one will believe how much they 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:46.720 look the same. 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.160 No one will believe that they are carbon coffee Bachelor's. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.000 Is this just you saying this? So that Anna Tim's 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.960 wife hears it and goes, hmm, someone told me that 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.120 you were rubbing my husband's back, and now you're trying 0:03:58.160 --> 0:03:59.200 to explain yourself. 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.360 Nah, ignorant. She'd be like, take him. I fucking don't 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.440 want to serve with him anymore. I don't reckon, I 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.480 don't reckon. She wants you to have him. She's like, 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:07.160 fuck off. 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.960 She's like got fight to us. 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:13.320 Yeah, but she's tired now, she's vulnerable. Poor woman is prepared. 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.400 So that's what you thought you'd get a while she's down. 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.840 Anyway, Guys, something that we wanted to share with you, 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:19.960 which you might have seen if you've been following along 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.039 on the instagrams Our life on. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.560 Cut hats are finally here. Baby. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.480 It took us a while, and they're actually so good. 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:30.040 We need to trial them, you know, we need to 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.920 wear them around. I can confirm they keep the sun 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:34.719 off the face, they do all the things that a 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:35.359 hat would do. 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.039 And also they come in three beautiful colors to fit 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.280 your summer wardrobe. We've got lilac, we've got forest green, 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.040 we've got beige. Depends on what kind of girl you're 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:46.560 feeling or giry are you're feeling. 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:48.800 Well what I can say is Ben actually stole all 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.240 of them. He stole them when he came here and 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.440 he loves them. Can recommend, but were actually your cute 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:54.119 hot girl walks. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.320 The qualities are amazing and just so you know, like 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.680 for pricing and stuff, the hats are forty two dollars. 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:00.800 There is a shipping fee on them. The shipping fee 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.360 is ten bucks. But we can't teache that shipping is expensive. 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.599 That only covers the bag of the shipping. 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:07.760 Yeah, that's what that covers. 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.160 It's nine dollars seventy for a five hundred gram Australia 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.279 post bag and so like it doesn't even cover the 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.800 cost of you know, the warehousing and people packing it. 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.719 Which I just wanted to make people aware of that 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:18.480 because they know that shipping can always be a charge 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:19.400 that people hate paying. 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.719 And we are giving five percent from every hat to 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:23.840 a charity of our choice. We always give something from 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.200 our merch so this year for the hats, we have 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.280 decided to give it to Mission Australia to help combat homelessness, 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.200 which is also something we feel really passionate about. 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.240 Yeah, especially at this time of year as well, coming 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.640 into Christmas and the economical crier it. So it's hard. 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.599 But guys, the hats, they are beautiful. They're available online 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:39.960 and we put a link in our buyer if you 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:40.719 want to get yourself up. 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.599 And they also have a ponytail section, like you know 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:43.800 how they've got the cut out of the back o. 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:45.320 Yeah, we thought about it all Yeah, you put your 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:46.560 pony in there. You can tighten it. 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.120 If you have a tiny little pea head like me, 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.440 tighten it. If you have a bigger head like Laura 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:51.640 and Keisha, you can. 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.679 Loosen it full of brain. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.360 But also it's got like a little brass adjustable class 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.839 with the back like the detailing on these are amazing. 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.800 They are the logos. I'm embroidered. They've just made really 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.680 really well. So this is a summer accessory that you're 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:05.560 going to very much enjoy. All right, Well, before we 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.240 get into answering all your questions, there was something else 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.719 that I wanted to talk about, and that was have 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:14.600 any of you seen the new promo video for Ricky 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.560 Gervase's new special which is coming out on Netflix, Because 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.320 there has been some uproar, and everybody in this room 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:21.719 right here has some feelings about it. 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:22.560 Well, I feel like it's. 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.440 Gone pretty viral, right, It's just this one short promo 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.240 clip that's been doing the rounds because his Netflix specially 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.440 is coming out sometime over Christmas, and this clip that 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.560 he's going viral is a joke that he has made 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:39.760 specifically about terminally ill children, and it's enables joke simultaneously, 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:43.240 so he's managed to hit two very sensitive topics in 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:43.800 one joke. 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:45.040 I'm going to play it for you just so you 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:45.680 guys can hear it. 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.840 I've been doing a lot of video messages recently for 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.160 terminally ill children, and only if they request it. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:53.039 Obviously I don't. 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.120 I don't burst into hospitals and go wake up Baldy. 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:05.760 He's working on TikTok. Look, no, I did a lot 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.120 through the pandemic, presumably because they couldn't even see their 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.680 own family. And it's through Make a Wish Foundation. Do 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.320 you know the charity Make a Wish Foundation. They're great 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.360 and they give these dying kids. They're like one wish 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.080 And if it's me, I always say yes, and I 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:18.760 always start the video the same way. 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.120 I go, why didn't you wish to get better? 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:25.640 Well? 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:31.520 You fucking retarded as well, So. 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.760 Backlash that Ricky Gervaise has received from This includes some 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.160 public profiles as well, people like Ashley Kine. He's a 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.840 British soccer player and he had a daughter. She was 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.360 eight months old when she died from lakemia back in 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.320 twenty twenty one, so he's been quite outspoken about this 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.320 on his social media and he said I was actually 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.800 a fan of Ricky Gervais, but after watching his stand 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.600 up with My Family and hearing multiple jokes about terminally 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.320 ill children and especially kids with cancer, I had to 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:59.000 turn it off. Some things are not funny, especially to 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.720 the parents that are left by. You can get canceled 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.040 in this world for so much, yet making a mockery 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:07.160 of dying children is okay. I'm so mad at this. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.960 Kelly Finlay said she's one of our favorite people. She's 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:12.760 joined the Girls on the podcast. She was also at 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.840 the Adelaide Live show. Kelly has been diagnosed with terminal 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:20.000 cancer herself. She shared some images and videos to Instagram 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.920 and one of them said what the actual fuck? A 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.920 message for Ricky Gervase in response to his Netflix special 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:29.440 calling make a Wish Cancer Kids Baldy and asking why 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.400 don't they just wish to be cured. I don't even 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.920 know why I'm giving this men airtime, but if you're 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.800 unsure what my last post was about this man and 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.960 tagged Ricky Gervase is using terminally ill children as the 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:44.680 subject of his jokes. Disgusting. How this is even still 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.520 on Instagram for people to see makes me feel sick. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.280 It's really interesting to me because I think the thing 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:54.200 that triggered me the most in that joke wasn't the 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.440 make a wish joke. It was the really ablest term, 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.920 which we obviously just heard. And I think that part 0:08:59.920 --> 0:09:01.920 of it hasn't even been mentioned in so much of 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.920 the outrage. It's almost like the disability part isn't the 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.400 part that have made people the most angry. Where we 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.760 seem to draw the line in comedy is when it's 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.600 at the expense of kids. But I think that we 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.120 have a much greater allowance so when it's at the 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.480 expense of so many other people. And I guess my 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:21.880 feeling about this is Ricky Jervas is controversial and he 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.240 punches down on so many different groups. He has made 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:29.360 trans jokes, he has made religious jokes, he makes fat jokes, 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.160 he makes ablest jokes, but The way in which Ricky 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.760 Gervaise often does his jokes is that he retrofits them. 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:37.360 He kind of re engineers them. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.360 So what he does is he makes a joke, but 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.080 then he goes on to explain that it's a joke. 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.000 This is what he also has to say off the 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:45.400 back of that. 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:47.199 I don't do that either. 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.560 Okay, these are all jokes. 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.720 I don't even use that word in real life. The 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.520 R word. You just used it, Rick Yeah, in a 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.680 joke that's not real life. Is I'm playing a role? 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:05.480 You sounded pretty convincing. Yeah, because I'm good. You wouldn't 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.840 level the accusation of other art forms. You wouldn't got 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.120 up to Sir Anthony Hopkins and go I saw you 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.439 in silence the lambs? What's a you? A cannibal? 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:12.680 Iya? 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:19.440 No, I was playing a role. Seem pretty convincing. Yeah, 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.640 it's good and I'm good, and that's why I do 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.160 things well. Imagine if I came I ownly did things 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.720 not very well so you knew I was joking, that'd 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:27.679 be fucking retarded. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:31.080 I know. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.120 And we've discussed this between us, and it's been We've 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:34.040 had heated conversations. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:35.240 We've had calm conversations. 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.320 We had educational conversations because we all do have different opinions, 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:41.199 and this is what the world comes down to, right, 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.640 Like some people will be offended by something that others 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.880 will laugh at. It's just going to come down to 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:51.959 human opinion, individual opinion. For me, it is never okay 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.440 and it will never be okay to laugh and make 0:10:55.480 --> 0:11:01.160 fun of dying children. It doesn't matter that you tack 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.080 on to the end of that. Just so you guys 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:04.800 know that this is a joke. We get it's a joke. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:06.880 You're a comedian, we get it. But I just think 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:08.679 there are some things in life that you don't touch. 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.800 I think it's really interesting exploring where people's line sits, 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:17.280 really because there has been so many debates recently around comedy, 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:20.840 around what is acceptable comedy. We saw recently if you 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.000 guys have been across at Matt Rife, he's a big 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.600 American comedian. He had his very first Netflix special and 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:30.960 recently it has been wildly and widely reported on around 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.439 his domestic violence joke that he made at the start 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.200 of it. And to be fair, I watched the whole 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.080 of that Netflix special and I was like, this is 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.679 just baseless, It is not funny, and it is the 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.560 lowest form. It's like the lowest hanging fruit in terms 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.959 of humor and in terms of the person to mock. 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:48.760 I think his delivery was very bad. And I don't 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.439 want to labor on Matt Rife because I feel like 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.600 we've spoken so much about him. But I think comedians 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.880 overall have a little bit more of a green card 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.480 to play in the controversial. I think that they have 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.199 a little bit more allowances to say things that make 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.240 us feel uncomfortable because they play within the absurd. Do 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.040 I think that it's okay? Do I think that the 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.079 jokes are then therefore allowable. Do I think it is 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.040 helpful to public discourse. No, I don't think that it's 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:16.040 any of those things. But I also don't think it 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:20.400 is a comedian's responsibility to provide a positive impact on 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.840 the world. I don't think that that's the service they're providing. 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.839 So I do think sometimes it's interesting how we say, oh, 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.160 this joke wasn't funny, and we try and cancel them. 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:29.959 And this was the big thing around Ricky Gervais. A 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.640 lot of people like, you know, he's being canceled off 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.080 the back of his last Netflix special, and this has 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.599 been the similar conversation off this one. The guy is 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.200 not going to be canceled. He's making millions and millions 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.840 and millions and millions of dollars of these Netflix specials. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:44.960 No, he's not being canceled. He's going anywhere. He's not 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:45.880 going anywhere. 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.680 And I think it is very interesting to explore what 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.240 makes us feel uncomfortable when it comes to stand up comedy. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.640 Where is our own personal lines, what is our own 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.920 personal bias? And why are we okay with some jokes 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.440 that target some minorities rather than others? Why do we 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.040 say okay terminally ill children is where the line stops, 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:05.600 but his other jokes prior are okay. 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.080 I think that that is actually the most interesting question 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.080 that you post to me, Laura, because Ricky Gervase was 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.160 and I would even go to say he is still 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.320 my favorite comedian. I am a huge fan of Ricky Gervase. 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.800 I find him so witty and very clever about how 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:24.960 he dances the line of controversy. I was really disappointed 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:28.280 when I heard this, because I truly did actually think 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.640 that Ricky was a little bit more self aware than this. 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.040 I thought that he was, you know, the topics of 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:36.040 his jokes, Yes, they are controversial topics, but they have 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:39.360 not thought of him as a problematic person. He makes 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.640 jokes about a lot of religious content. He's quite a 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:46.480 staunch atheist. And it was actually me unpacking why I 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.520 was okay with certain jokes, but why I felt so 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:53.120 disappointed about this particular one. And there are a couple 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.600 of different reasons. One of them is that I think 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.240 children in general are the most vulnerable of groups. They 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:03.559 have no right of replied wild the whole like terminally 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.240 ill thing. To me, I was just a bit like, Ricky, 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.560 why do you need to go to these depths? Like 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:13.920 your comedy about political issues is very interesting to me 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:15.720 because I think it shows you a side of things 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.560 that you either haven't thought about before, a viewpoint of 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.920 something that you haven't been exposed to. But this is 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:25.160 something that I'm like, there is no point to these jokes. 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.600 There's nothing that we're gaining from this other than the 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:31.120 fact that like you are involved with make a Wish, which, yeah, 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:33.160 I think that's why I felt disappointed. 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.000 I guess the only thing and I agree with you, 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:36.920 and I don't want anyone to interpret this is me 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:38.680 saying that I think the jokes are funny, or that 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.080 I think the jokes are okay. But I do think 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:45.160 that his context that he provided afterwards is important. And 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.880 the reason why I say that is not because it's 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.280 about I don't actually think it's about the joke. I 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.960 think he's making a statement about comedy and saying you 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.200 can say whatever you want, but you need to know 0:14:56.240 --> 0:15:01.400 the people on stage here are providing a service, creating comedy, 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.880 and so if that makes you feel uncomfortable, that makes 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.160 you laugh, if that gives you a reaction, we all 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.600 need to appreciate that comedians who are on stage are 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.360 doing a job. Because when I first read those jokes 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.600 about calling you know, and I don't want to repeat 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.600 the word, but like calling a terminally ill child something 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.080 that is incredibly abless, and I read it written down, 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:21.720 I was like, that is fucked. 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.040 That is so sick. And then when I. 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.840 Watched it within the context of him trying to make 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.760 a statement about humor, I was like, oh, yeah, the 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.760 joke still doesn't land, but it is an interesting unpack 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.040 around how we all feel about comedy as a whole. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.680 But it's like when somebody says I mean, what you're 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.640 saying is, and what you're saying he's saying is. It's 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.200 like when someone says no offense and then says something 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.640 really offensive, it doesn't make it okay because they prefaced 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.320 it with no offense. I don't think his jokes are 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.920 okay because he ends them with but it's a joke. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.240 I agree, I agree, And I don't think he's saying 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.520 but it's a joke. And I don't think he's saying, oh, 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:58.320 you know, no offense but which we had a very 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.000 funny conversation about that on Tuesday. I actually think he 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.280 is making a political statement. I think he is making 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.720 a statement about comedy as a whole. So he has 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:10.640 almost purposely chosen the most controversial thing to make that 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:11.360 statement from. 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:11.720 See. 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:13.880 I don't think I agree with his statement. I don't 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.640 like the comparison between an actor and a comedian, because 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:20.000 a committean actually formulates their own productions, so they're the 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.040 ones who are the creative behind it, Whereas an actor 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.840 is following a script and it's make believe, it's not real, 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.320 Whereas comedy plays off of that line between things that 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.800 are very real in our society, and that's why I've 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.920 enjoyed his comedy so much up until this one thing 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.760 that to me, it doesn't seem to fit the mold 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.760 of what I had created. Who Ricky was in my brain, 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.200 and I understand that that's my own fault, but I 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:45.560 also put him on a pedestal. 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:45.800 Well. 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.040 Unpacking why I felt so differently about this made me 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.040 realize that we all have such a line in the 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:56.240 sand that we draw from. We all have biases that 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.880 contribute to that. I've spoken a lot about on the 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:02.560 podcast how I grew up very religious organization and I 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.160 am not a part of that organization. Now I find 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:10.120 his comedy surrounding atheism hilarious. I am realizing that that's 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.919 because my views align with his, Like I align with 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:14.480 the way that he sees the world, and that's why 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.880 I find the stuff that he says so funny. There 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.760 are so many people that would be like, that's not funny. 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.119 That's highly offensive to me, and I completely disagree with 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.960 what you're saying and therefore the jokes that you're making 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:30.040 about it. And so I think I'm realizing that the 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:31.400 line in the sand for me. 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:32.800