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Speaker 1: So we've promised everyone an exciting announcement and I can

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Speaker 1: tell it's. Look, I don't know if you want to

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Speaker 1: say this or I should say this, but Paul's getting

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Speaker 1: replaced by Trevor Long and and it's about time. But

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Speaker 1: seriously big announcement. I pulled some strings and I sent

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Speaker 1: over a by d AT O three to the Car

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Speaker 1: Expert studios in the Docklins and like, honestly, I wish

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Speaker 1: I filmed it because Paul was out the front and

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Speaker 1: it was like one of those tiktoks where you buy

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Speaker 1: your mama car and she's crying, and he was crying,

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Speaker 1: and he had a stiffy, which was weird, and like

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Speaker 1: he looked at me and you genuinely said thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's actually precisely what happened, literally down to the stiffy. No,

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Speaker 2: I did actually finally drive the byd AT O three

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Speaker 2: and I'm pleased to report that it isn't terrible.

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Speaker 3: I actually thought it was going to be not great.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: No, I discovered you thought it wasn't going to be

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Speaker 1: great because you weren't invited to the launch. You didn't

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Speaker 1: get any correspondence from BYD they hate your guts rightly,

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Speaker 1: So you thought it was going to be crap because

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Speaker 1: you weren't the first in Australia to drive it, like

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Speaker 1: neither were you bother.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I was actually pretty impressive. I stand by

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Speaker 2: my comments about the interior. I think those guitar string

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Speaker 2: things are stupid and the design.

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Speaker 3: Is just not that great.

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Speaker 2: But it's put together really well and the materials inside

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Speaker 2: the cabin are fantastic and for that price you would

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Speaker 2: never expect it to be as good as it iss

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Speaker 2: really well. That it is let down by the tires,

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Speaker 2: I thought they were.

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Speaker 3: Pretty shitty O the Batman's Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's never heard of the brand, all the

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Speaker 2: tires and you can tell when you drive it. But

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Speaker 2: outside of that, it actually handles nicely. It's got plenty

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Speaker 2: of go the charging tech and infrastructure is good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was really quite impressive.

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Speaker 2: That so one thing that they're in a bit of

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Speaker 2: hot water in at the moment, and we really can't

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Speaker 2: get any answers on this. I realized when we were

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Speaker 2: reviewing the car that in the middle seat in the

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Speaker 2: second row there was no tie down point for a

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Speaker 2: baby seat, and in Australia, if you sell. Generally, if

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Speaker 2: you sell a five seat vehicle, it has to have

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Speaker 2: tight downd points for baby seats in all three positions

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Speaker 2: across the second row. It's the whole reason Honda couldn't

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Speaker 2: because they didn't have tied ouns.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, because I'm like, I put

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Speaker 1: my kid in this car legally, don't worry. Yes, but

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Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. In the middle seat. So

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Speaker 1: it's got the middle what do they call it tether points.

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Speaker 2: For Yeah, so IO fix on the up board seats

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Speaker 2: and then the top ten points in the three positions,

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Speaker 2: but this didn't have it in the center. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: we spoke about it on our video review and you

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Speaker 2: can check that out on YouTube. And one of the

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Speaker 2: complications is for them to get a five star safety rating,

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Speaker 2: they have to have that in Australia. So the car

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Speaker 2: has been awarded a five star rating everywhere but Australia.

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Speaker 2: So they're currently working on figuring out how that got

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Speaker 2: past the authorities because they check all this stuff before

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Speaker 2: the cars were imported. There is a top ten point

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Speaker 2: that it is accessible, so they're working on sorting that

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Speaker 2: out at the moment. But look outside of that, I

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Speaker 2: genuinely thought the car was pretty good. And while we

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Speaker 2: update that added maps and Spotify and all this other

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Speaker 2: stuff to the screen, which I thought was pretty.

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Speaker 3: Cool as well.

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Speaker 1: So voice command too.

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Speaker 3: And voice commands which you really didn't work that well.

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Speaker 2: I tried calling people and it just wouldn't work because

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Speaker 2: for some reason their computer joined all the names together.

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Speaker 2: So when I would call you, know, not that I

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Speaker 3: Waters, it would basically not find you.

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Speaker 2: And then if I manually went and found you, it

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Speaker 2: would be Gaudy Waters hard up. I'd have to pronounce

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Speaker 1: But you called me four times crying today. So what

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Speaker 1: did you have to say if you were in your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much, just really fast.

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Speaker 1: I told you I had to go at this, and

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Speaker 1: I actually said, hey, Google, say how do you say

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Speaker 1: and it worked as you get, as you got Google

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Speaker 1: say it. Maybe you've just got an annoying voice.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think that is part of it.

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Speaker 2: Or if I said it in Serbian or something, maybe

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Speaker 2: that would have been better.

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Speaker 1: I would have loved that. That would be cool. So

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Speaker 1: b one day, Atto three, we got there. It's good.

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Speaker 2: It's good, Yeah it is. It is good, and for

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Speaker 2: the price, it is excellent value for money. I cannot

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Speaker 2: understand why you would spend an extra I think it's

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Speaker 2: literally like fifteen or twenty grand for a Nissan Leaf.

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Speaker 1: Might get an addo three just to piss you off.

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Speaker 1: And every now and then I'm going to call you

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Speaker 1: up and I'm just going to play you a song

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Speaker 1: with my side pocket doors. Hey, Paul, do you like

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Speaker 1: zz Top?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Anyway, enough of the announcements. How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I've just come back from Denmark and Slovenia and Serbia

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Speaker 2: and Croatia and then Denver just before that.

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Speaker 1: So and how did your organ harvesting trafficking expedition go?

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Speaker 2: I tell you what if you thought drivers in Sydney

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Speaker 2: they are absolute maniacs. I almost got taken out like

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Speaker 2: three times by people that were probably absolutely maggeted by

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Speaker 2: The other thing I had to be very careful of

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Speaker 2: as well. I had to rent a car in Serbia.

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Speaker 2: Oh they are I shouldn't say this, but some of

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Speaker 2: them are very dodgy. And I took about a thousand

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Speaker 2: photos of the car, went to leave and noticed too

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Speaker 2: like enormous dents in the boot of this car that

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Speaker 3: And thankful I noticed them because I when I.

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Speaker 2: Returned the car, they would have hit my credit card

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Speaker 2: up for another five grand of fees and damages.

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Speaker 1: So what was your car of choice in Serbia? Was

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Speaker 2: It was literally a horse and a cart. You know,

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Speaker 2: you have little feeding stations. Now. I ended up in

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Speaker 2: a Mercedes Ben's B Class, which was not as shit

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Speaker 2: up Apple car Play and I'll have nav. They disabled

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Speaker 2: Apple car Play and Android Auto, so they removed it

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Speaker 1: Is that Mercedes over there or is that just this

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Speaker 2: No, it was. It must have just been Mercedes over there.

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Speaker 2: They must and we'll talk about this later in car News.

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Speaker 2: But maybe they charge a subscription for it or something

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Speaker 2: like that. It'll be like, you know, fifty dinners per

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Speaker 2: month or something, which is the local currency.

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Speaker 3: By the way, you just.

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Speaker 1: Go into some old heightened throw someone a bag of coins.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what is expensive af though, and that

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Speaker 3: Coffee was eight bucks.

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Speaker 1: Did you try drinking alcohol in Denmark because I think

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Speaker 1: that's taxed.

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Speaker 2: Yes, every thing is expensive. And they like bicycles, which

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Speaker 2: troubles me greatly.

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Speaker 1: I agree it's good when you hit one, though. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I've got to tell you something, right. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to name names, but I went into a

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Speaker 1: very well known classic car dealership. It's iconic. It has

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Speaker 1: some of the best examples of classic cars in Australia.

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Speaker 1: Concourse stuff, and their priced accordingly.

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Speaker 3: Is this car city in Melbourne?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, we're not keep your eyes open for

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Speaker 1: a bargain guy. As two cars that I noticed amongst

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Speaker 1: I did not expect to see. One was the Yonda

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Speaker 1: Ionic five. Wow, and how much do you think they

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Speaker 3: Was it the top pick?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Like ninety grand?

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Speaker 1: It was that Arctic white YEP one hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's very stupid.

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Speaker 1: Well then I kept walking and guess what else I saw?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: A byd Atto three.

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Speaker 3: What was that doing?

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Speaker 1: Which is the cheapest electric which is the most affordable

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Speaker 3: Oh no, they've been pipped by MG.

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Speaker 1: Guess how much they had on Paul's beloved byd Auto three.

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Speaker 1: Guess how much?

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Speaker 3: How much? Well it's what forty five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: So now if you maybe fifty, if you were to

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Speaker 1: walk into this Concourse Classic car dealership, you were going

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Speaker 1: to pay seventy nine thousand dollars for the three?

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Speaker 3: Are they insane?

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Speaker 1: It's like they thought, you know what, it's sitting next

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Speaker 1: to a one point five million dollar Ferrari and.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they won't notice.

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Speaker 1: And the Porsche Spider. Let's let's really up this game,

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Speaker 1: and let's do seventy nine thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Did you check inside? Maybe it had gold tar strings

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe Slash played them and he said in

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Speaker 1: guns and Roses set, Hey something else. It's crazy? Is

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Speaker 1: the the two thousand and two comedore that I saw? Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I mean the new BMW M two.

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Speaker 3: You're a bitch, really, am I?

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Speaker 1: That thing looks like mate, that thing looks like it

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Speaker 1: was found in one of my kids kin to surprise toys.

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Speaker 3: You know what's funny? BMW.

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Speaker 2: They just cause outrage with the design of some of

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Speaker 2: their cars.

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Speaker 3: And I remember when.

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Speaker 2: The M three and the M four came out, people like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, it's the ugliest thing ever. I'm never

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Speaker 2: going to buy one. And now everyone's yeah, now everyone's

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Speaker 2: come around to it. And I think the M two

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Speaker 2: was the same. Like when I first saw the leaked pictures,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I think someone in China just copied

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Speaker 2: this design and just changed it a little behaved.

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Speaker 1: BMW from Wish right, Yeah and yeah.

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Speaker 2: So look I got a chance to see the current

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Speaker 2: person this week at a dealership opening in Melbourne, and look,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: I think the color looks terrible.

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Speaker 2: It's called zan Vort Blue and it's named after a

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Speaker 2: racetrack in Holland. And it is literally a carbon copy

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Speaker 2: of the baby blue Hyundai color, which hasn't dated well.

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Speaker 3: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, next. So that's the like suv type thing.

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Speaker 1: Ugly and expensive. It's expensive technology and it's expensive to make.

444
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Speaker 1: And I don't think they actually sell these. They sort

445
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 1: of drive them around and do experiments and stuff and

446
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: then they they donate.

447
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: They sold some to councils in Canberra, right, Actually they

448
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: sold a whole stack to the government.

449
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, and then they're also known to donate

450
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Speaker 1: them to universities.

451
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

452
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 2: Hydrogen's interesting because and BMW actually has a good point

453
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: with this. They're saying that by locking ourselves into just

454
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 2: electric cars, it could present an issue in the future

455
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 2: because you're relying on all these rare minerals and unless

456
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Speaker 2: technology significantly improves in in batteries, which it probably will,

457
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: you're still going to lock yourself into evs. So what

458
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: they're suggesting is that they will continue working on.

459
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 3: Hydrogen in the background.

460
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: The reason hydrogen isn't as efficient as something like an

461
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: electric car is because to produce hydrogen.

462
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 3: You have to use electricity.

463
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: You then have to store the hydrogen, transport it to

464
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: a filling station, and then use energy to plummet into

465
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Speaker 2: a car.

466
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 3: And within the car, you then have a.

467
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 2: Multi step process to convert that hydrogen into electricity that

468
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: you can run.

469
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 3: Electric motors with.

470
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Speaker 2: So there are a lot of efficiency losses during that

471
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 2: process because with an EV all you're doing is creating

472
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 2: the electricity, sending it down a transmission line, and then

473
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 2: pushing it into a car into a car's battery. So

474
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 2: it is a simpler process, but ultimately, if you have

475
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 2: a look at the business model of petrol stations around

476
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 2: the world at the moment, if you rock up to

477
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: a petrol station, they might get ten cars through a

478
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: bowser an hour at a busy time, and each of

479
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Speaker 2: those ten cars is taking fuel, they're paying per they're

480
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: going inside the store, they're spending money, Whereas with an

481
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: EV at the moment, even if you put the fastest

482
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 2: charges you have available, if you drive there, you're going

483
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: to sit your car there for twenty to thirty minutes

484
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: at least, You're then only going to get one or

485
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Speaker 2: two people through a bowser every hour, and that is

486
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 2: a whole lot less money than you were actually making

487
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: with fuel. So if you look at these companies, they're

488
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 2: the companies that are going to be pushing hydrogen as well.

489
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Speaker 2: Because they can charge per leader. The government can then

490
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Speaker 2: get in on that as well, in charge per leaders.

491
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Speaker 2: So I think there's still a lot of industry pressure

492
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Speaker 2: on hydrogen to work, and we will definitely see it

493
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: in commercial I just don't know whether we'll actually see

494
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 2: it in passenger vehicles in the future.

495
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Speaker 1: As you said, it is early technology, and with this

496
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Speaker 1: sort of stuff, as time goes on, this stuff becomes

497
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: cheaper and more accessible. So I mean electric cars weren't

498
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: always cheap to manufacture. I mean they're still not even

499
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: to buy now, they're still on the expensive side. They're

500
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: probably to me, there's still quite expensive.

501
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Speaker 3: They're expensive.

502
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really do hope that hydrogen takes off, especially

503
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: for both passenger and sort of commercial trucking and whatnot.

504
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: I think it's got I think it's definitely got its place.

505
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 1: As you said, like god, you can you can fill

506
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: up a hydrogen passenger car in about three minutes.

507
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

508
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: It's a much quicker process, and it's now safe enough

509
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: as well to use within passenger vehicles. So yeah, I

510
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: really don't see the issue with it from that front.

511
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: It's just the efficiency of it just doesn't stack up

512
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: in comparison to an EV.

513
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Speaker 1: Should we talk about today's car review the.

514
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Speaker 5: Twenty twenty three Coupra Leon and carp Perform mental prices

515
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 5: stuck from forty three thousand, nine hundred and ninety dollars

516
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 5: for the Leon and fifty thousand, six hundred and ninety

517
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 5: dollars for the for Mentor.

518
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Speaker 1: All right, so Cooper Leon, Coopra Form WEINSA. I thought

519
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: we'd mix these both in one because I mean obviously

520
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 1: different cars, but basically a bit of backstory. Coopra is

521
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: correcting me if I'm wrong, Paul, But Coopra is basically

522
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Speaker 1: the Spanish cousin in the Volkswagen Group, this sporty, kind

523
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: of little pocket from Spain. They've kind of put these

524
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Speaker 1: this brand together. It's I kind of like it. It's exciting,

525
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: it was cool to watch.

526
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's actually just very quickly. It's a it's

527
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 2: a startup and I use that term in inverted commas

528
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 2: because it's a startup with enormous backing from the Volkswagen Group,

529
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Speaker 2: but it is virtually a brand new brand that they

530
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: are starting up from scratch, so it is really fresh

531
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Speaker 2: and new in that sense.

532
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: Always correcting me, Yeah, someone has to, someone has to.

533
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to keep you honest. If it's not me,

534
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 3: it'll be Trev.

535
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Speaker 1: He's not answering my calls anymore. Oh my picks Corp.

536
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Speaker 1: Really on this competes I guess with the Golf GTI

537
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: or the Golf ah I reckon even the young day

538
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Speaker 1: I thirty in. I'm going to put that out there

539
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: as well. Entry cost looking at about fifty three K.

540
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: The one I had was the top spec the ZX

541
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Speaker 1: for about sixty one thousand dollars. That is an expensive

542
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: pot hatch. Two hundred and twenty one killer. What's four

543
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: hundred and new meters of talk two lead four cylinder

544
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: turbo sitting on volkswagens. What is it? The NQB platform.

545
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's if you want to picture this

546
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: in terms of power output, it sits between the golf

547
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 2: GTI and the golfer in Australia, and it's the same

548
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 2: tune that they use for the GTI club sport in

549
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: Europe that we don't get in Australia.

550
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Speaker 1: We don't get that here. No could Performanta fifty one

551
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: thousand entry sixty one thousand and four ninety four the

552
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Speaker 1: vs X two hundred similar kind of numbers, to be honest,

553
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Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty eight killer? What's four hundred meters?

554
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: Is it? The same two lider turbo?

555
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean this is the thing.

556
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: They try and share a lot of the components here

557
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: as much as they possibly can because you get cost

558
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 2: efficiencies and all that sort of stuff. So this one

559
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 2: is it's basically it's aligned with the S three sport

560
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: back in Sedan.

561
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Speaker 3: So it's the EA triple eight engine.

562
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Speaker 2: So I mean it is actually a really good in

563
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: those Audi products and here as well.

564
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:03,719
Speaker 3: It kind of does the same thing.

565
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Speaker 1: Seven speed, you'll clutch, all will drive. So yeah, I

566
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: guess we're talking of hot hatch and what a mid

567
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: hot suv pretty much.

568
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Speaker 2: I think it actually looks looks awesome as well. The

569
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Speaker 2: one that we had through our office had the Matte

570
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Speaker 2: paint finish on it.

571
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Speaker 3: The gold highlights. They definitely turn some heads.

572
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's just because they're new

573
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: to Australia, but I mean zero to one hundred and

574
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Speaker 2: under five seconds. That foremena, the VSX is pretty sort

575
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: of hot stuff when it comes to performance figures as well.

576
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Speaker 1: It looks fantastic. Yeah, that sort of frosted blue, the

577
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: copper highlights on the wheels, the lights look very bad.

578
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: The whole car kind of looks a bit. Both of

579
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: them look very kind of batman esque. Well, I love

580
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: the way it looks. What are your thoughts on styling?

581
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think styling looks great.

582
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: That Matte paint finishes pretty reasonably priced to twenty three

583
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: hundred bucks, especially when you compare it to the premium

584
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: paint at full seventy five, I think it's matte paint

585
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: is typically quite expensive.

586
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Speaker 3: I'm also.

587
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Speaker 2: Fascinated that you can get this Rainbow break package for

588
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: four grand on the VSX only. I think that is

589
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: I think that just signals the performance intentions and yeah, look,

590
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see how this goes.

591
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: Obviously it'll be slow to start.

592
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: With, and at the moment, with the market being so

593
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: you know, stretched with supply, I think that they'll probably

594
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: sell a few to start with, simply because people just

595
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: don't have any options. They'll just buy whatever they can

596
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: get their hands on. But to be fair, Volkswagen has

597
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: built the Scoto brand in Australia from nothing and that's

598
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: actually doing some pretty decent numbers at the moment. So

599
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: I think if they are committed to this, and they

600
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: stay in this and keep running with it, this should

601
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: actually have some success in Australia. I just hope they

602
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: don't do what Infinity did, which is just try it

603
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: and then realize it's not working and just go oh, yeah,

604
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: we're just out of here, and not really give it

605
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 2: the proper chance it deserves.

606
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. It herea looks great. Blue seats you

607
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: don't get blue seats these days.

608
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a reason for that.

609
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: I like it, to be honest, I hated it in pictures.

610
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: It comes across in the press as just like this. Yeah,

611
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of dirty blue. It doesn't look great at all,

612
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: but once you're in it, it looks really cool. It's

613
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: got sort of generally everything you need. The ball string

614
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: is great, you know. The ride in the Leon, I

615
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: will say, is very direct to the and very raw,

616
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Speaker 1: to the point where it's almost is this uncomfortable or

617
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: is that my hemorrhoids kicking and what's going on? Yeah? Yeah,

618
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Speaker 1: it's very it's very firm, but I think it's kitted

619
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Speaker 1: out well. I think it drives great, It handles great.

620
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: The raw side you kind of go the fact that

621
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: you can feel everything in this car. Is it worth

622
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: sixty four thousand dollars?

623
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some people like that type of thing,

624
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: and I think if it is a sports car, you

625
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: can kind of get away with it.

626
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, it is.

627
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: It is tough to you know, to win at everything,

628
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: and I think that they obviously need to differentiate this

629
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: as well. I mean the GTI is very soft and

630
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: perfect daily. If this was the same, there would just

631
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: be no point buying a GTI. I mean it has

632
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: more a little bit more poke, but it's really not

633
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: enough to justify, you know, going for a brand that

634
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: isn't as established in Australia. So I think ultimately they

635
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: had to differentiate it somehow and that is the way

636
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: it doing it.

637
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: I do like the fact that you know, in terms.

638
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: Of warranty and stuff, five year unlimited kilometer warranty, you

639
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: get three years of free servicing, they're kind of giving

640
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: you as much incentive as they can to get you

641
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: into the cars.

642
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: One thing I will say is, I reckon there's a

643
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: design flaw in their charges. I swear to God right.

644
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: Wireless charging is on an angle in both these cars,

645
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: and I want you to test it to make sure

646
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: it's not just me right when you get these back

647
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: in your HQ whatever. So with the iPhone, there's obviously

648
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: a little bit of a notch that comes out with

649
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: the cameras. Yeah, a little bit of a growth similar

650
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: to the one that's on Paul's penis.

651
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: So that is my penis.

652
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: That didn't call your showed in high school for nothing.

653
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: So the problem is is because of that, because of

654
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: that chode that sits on your iPhone, when you put

655
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: it in wireless charging, it actually like it doesn't fully

656
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: connect with its back. Yeah, it doesn't fully connect with

657
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: the charger. So what's going to happen is it cuts

658
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: in and out all the time and you're getting that

659
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: warning on the screen.

660
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

661
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: I've had that in other cars as well, where the

662
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: notch prevents it from gripping onto the tabs and it

663
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: moves around everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It is a very shit designed by Apple. I've got

666
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Speaker 2: to say, like they're masters in electronics and then they

667
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Speaker 2: sell this phone with this ridiculous camera system sticking out

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Speaker 2: in the back.

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Speaker 3: I just think it is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: They're still bought the phone, but.

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Speaker 2: I just want to make it clear that it's shit

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Speaker 2: design and it's now functionally affecting the way this stuff works.

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Speaker 2: And the reason it's affecting it is because with inductive charging,

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Speaker 2: the bigger the air gap between the charger and the device,

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Speaker 2: the less current.

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Speaker 3: You can get through. And when you create that notch,

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Speaker 3: you create an air gap.

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Speaker 2: And they have a low fault tolerance on cars and

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00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: sorry to keep you up and and basically that that

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Speaker 2: basically makes it drop in and out.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, that's.

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Speaker 1: All of the engineers listening out there. They just it's

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Speaker 1: about four engineers with bonus. Do you know what sucks

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Speaker 1: on this car though? Is the bloody goes right across

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Speaker 1: the range in the Volkswagen group. I think it's an

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Speaker 1: eleven point four inch infotainment display. It takes a while

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Speaker 1: to get used to it, and I still think once

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Speaker 1: I got used to it, I still hated it was

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Speaker 1: the one the volume which is kind of yes, what's

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Speaker 1: it called helot touch or something coptic touch, So it

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Speaker 1: works with the volume, and it also happens to be

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Speaker 1: with the air con as well the climate control. And

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Speaker 1: it's just like they're obviously trying to get that minimalistic

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Speaker 1: kind of vibe going in the car, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're I don't think they're ready for that.

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Speaker 3: Jolly yep, I agree.

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Speaker 2: I think that stuff's Italy and I really don't like

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Speaker 2: it in Volkswagen and go to products that they just

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Speaker 2: need physical knobs in there to adjust.

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Speaker 1: I guess all around this is I think it's an

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Speaker 1: exciting car. I think it drives great, handles great, there's

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Speaker 1: definitely no issues with that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of the new brands we've had in

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00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: Australia recently, or all Chinese brands, so it's refreshing to

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00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 2: see someone else try and enter the market, which often

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00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: doesn't happen here.

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Speaker 1: I kind of think these are on the expensive side.

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Speaker 3: Yes, definitely.

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Speaker 2: I think they are pretty expensive, and I think that

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00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: could be a bit of a challenge because ultimately, you know,

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00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: it's a brand new brand, you want to get people

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00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: into it, and by hitting them straight up with an

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00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: expensive car, it is going to limit how many people

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00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: decide to do it. And like I said before, you'll

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00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: kind of have artificial sales figures now because these all

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00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: be available and people will know they can jump into

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00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: a car and get it quickly. But will it be

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00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 2: the same in two or three years time once they've

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00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: been on the market for a while.

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Speaker 1: Buy list or flick if you look looking at let's

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00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: say the fullmntal, which is the popular one. I know

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00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people will be listening to this because

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Speaker 1: they're looking into the FORMENTTA. I think quick backtrack on

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00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: the Leon, I actually think that's a great car. It's excellent.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the biggest problem is that with it is

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Speaker 1: the sixty four thousand dollars price tag. But if we

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Speaker 1: look at the foromena in itself, this for me, I

728
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: was really hoping to love this, and it reminded me

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00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: of a typical Audi SQ model where I was let

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Speaker 1: down a little bit. Yeah, I don't think it was

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Speaker 1: roomy enough you would expect. I just think with the

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00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: wireless charging that pissed me off as well, just bits.

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Speaker 1: There's little things where I kind of go, if you're

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00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: putting sixty five k on this, I want that fix,

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00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: I want that sorted.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, look, I don't know. I would test drive it.

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00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 3: And that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: If you're desperate for an SUV and you need one now,

739
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: you're probably not going to have too much of a

740
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: choice in it, right. But yeah, I'll be curious to

741
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: see how this fares over the next six to twelve

742
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: months and whether they get the traction that they're hoping

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00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: for in Australia because they've spent a lot of money

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00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: launching it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think definitely listed check it out because it

746
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 1: sounds great, it looks great, it does drive great, But yeah,

747
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: This is going to have to be a passion project,

748
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

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00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's see how it goes.

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00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: Ah, we're both sick, m yuck, yucky. Yeah. Your online

751
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: content has been a bit interesting lately. I watched you

752
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: for Witch Channels on your personal one. I watched your

753
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: two minute story if you're filming a kidnap and you're

754
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: heavily breathing, going oh yeah, look, how cute it is

755
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: a look at that, look at that, look at so cute. Yeah.

756
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: Then there was another one where I don't know, you're

757
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: in fucking Borneo or something and there's a squirrel and again,

758
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: oh look.

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00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: Look it's an animal hour ship.

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00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: Bloody hell, Paul's trying to remake the movie Bambi doesn't

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00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: Baby get shot yeah by Joe Rogan and then he

762
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: uses it as venison and then talks about talks about

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00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: it on his podcast. I'm not shitting on you, Joe Rogan,

764
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: please please, We've got enough issues, Daniel. So yeah, anyway.

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00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 3: Thank you for stalking me. I do appreciate that.

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00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: Mate. You're putting it up there on a public forum.

767
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: What do you expect I'm going to give you a

768
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: shit about it? You any little humble brag in first class.

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00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: Oh time for the long trip home in my seat

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Speaker 1: one A with my sensible slacks and ridiculous fucking chows.

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00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: You are a bitch, give miss me admit it?

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00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so.

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Speaker 1: Contacted the Drive Show dot com dot a U. I'm

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00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: going to say that one more time. Contact at the

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00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: Drive Show dot com dot AU.

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00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: That's the one, yes, and let us know what you

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00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: think about that. M too.

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00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: I've got it up on my socials and Gordon I

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00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: think we'll hopefully share it on Instagram, yeah, on from

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00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: his Macintosh and you'll be able to give us your

781
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: impressions of that.

782
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: But I'm keen to see.

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00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 2: Whatever on thinks. Do you think it is a fugly thing?

784
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: Or do you think that actually looks okay?

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00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: I reckon it's very much.

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00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: It's kind of like you, I mean, stunning and smart.

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00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: No. I forgret I think give me ten give me

788
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: ten beers, it'll probably look okay, but I probably shouldn't

789
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: drive it after ten beers. Not on the phone. What

790
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: did you say last time to me? How do you

791
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: get to you before? Get that thing away from me?

792
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: With your foster's flop?

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00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 2: What that means but thank you. Yeah, let us contact

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00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: at the Drive show dot comtidentate you. And also, if

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00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: you haven't done so, ready leave us a rating on

796
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: whichever platform you listen to, because it helps this podcast

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00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: grow and we would very very much greatly appreciate it.

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00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: Rate, subscribe, tell your granddad and you would be doing

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00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: us a world of what do they say, A world

800
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 1: of favors, a world of love. I don't know, I'm sick.

801
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: Give me some cold and fluid tablets. Well, we promised

802
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: an exciting announcement and I mean, it's probably not mine

803
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: to say, but Paul's.

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Speaker 3: I'm this cannot be the intro. That is not okay