WEBVTT - ASK UNCUT - Feeling DICKappointed?

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout

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<v Speaker 1>Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We

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<v Speaker 1>pay our respect to their elders past and present and

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<v Speaker 1>peoples today.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode is recorded on Gadigal Land of the Aurora Nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi guys andam welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Laura, I'm Brittany, and I'm really fucking sad. I

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<v Speaker 2>just absolutely axed because I was rushing because I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>late with this record.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to park in that little side street

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<v Speaker 2>around the corner from your house, and I my tire

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<v Speaker 2>literally eat into the gutter like.

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<v Speaker 1>It was gonna reverse me.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I had to drive up the gutter to

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<v Speaker 2>get and I got out and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>let's inspect the damage.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also that weird thing when you're doing that reverse

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<v Speaker 1>park parallel and you're behind no, but when you start

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<v Speaker 1>to scratch it for some reason, you just really slowly

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<v Speaker 1>keep going. No one stops.

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<v Speaker 3>You're always like You're like it'll stop.

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<v Speaker 1>In a minute. You keep doing it. Why don't we

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<v Speaker 1>stop and go forward? Why don't we continue to.

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<v Speaker 2>Scratch, because look, when you're already that far deep, you

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<v Speaker 2>just got to keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>Did getting your car the other day? The window was

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<v Speaker 1>smashed as well. It is a bit of a smash window.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't me that I know my poor car.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, some people just shouldn't have nice things or anything

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<v Speaker 2>that's damage.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just I don't know. We'll inspect it when we

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<v Speaker 3>get out.

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<v Speaker 2>But the whole hub cap is like, speaking of cars,

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<v Speaker 2>what we are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had told you guys a little while ago

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<v Speaker 1>that I had this really slow leak in my car

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<v Speaker 1>tire like I had a nail in my time. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was my suck from weeks and weeks and

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, one of those life had been things that

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<v Speaker 1>you just don't want to fix, like you can't be

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<v Speaker 1>bothered because it's not enough that I couldn't drive it.

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<v Speaker 1>But every two days or three days, my tire went

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<v Speaker 1>down enough that the alarm came on and I had

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<v Speaker 1>to go in and pull into a servo and blow

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<v Speaker 1>it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I do remember this, and I do remember distinctly telling

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<v Speaker 2>you at the time that it's super dangerous to drive

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<v Speaker 2>around with a nail just sticking in, even if it's

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<v Speaker 2>plugging the hole.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I didn't know if it was a nail. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't eve look at it. I couldn't bothered. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like I never even looked at what was in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I just knew it was a slow leak. So every

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days for literally I reckon five or six weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>I just pulled into a surface station and pump it

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<v Speaker 1>up anyway, lost not.

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<v Speaker 2>Once in five or six weeks. You do you think

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<v Speaker 2>I might just look at that tire and see what

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<v Speaker 2>was like going.

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<v Speaker 1>I could look at it, doesn't change the fact I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to go take it anywhere I was. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't gonna happen, right. I was putting my life on

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<v Speaker 1>hold for a little while because.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just all your life on the line if

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<v Speaker 3>the thing exploded. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Eventually, while someone on radio at the moment, I've

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<v Speaker 1>asked Keisha, I'm paying Keisha to be like a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a pa the job set, because you know, an

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<v Speaker 1>extra five hours out of my day's gone. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting Keisha produce a Keisha to do some stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>we swapped cars. One day, I was like, can you

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<v Speaker 1>please take this down the road to the tire place

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<v Speaker 1>for me? Because I'm never going to do it. It

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<v Speaker 1>has to happen and change it. So she took it

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<v Speaker 1>down the road to the tire place and as her

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<v Speaker 1>producer key, so she gets chatting because she could talk

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<v Speaker 1>to a sidewalk. She the girl loves a chat. So

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<v Speaker 1>she's having a chat and the guy's like, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you do blah blah blah blah, and she's like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in podcasting. And he goes, oh, this is a man.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I don't know much about podcasting. The only person

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<v Speaker 1>I know all the podcast I know is Britt and

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<v Speaker 1>Laura from Life on Cut. This is a male mechanic.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's like, that's what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I work for those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking like a middle age like, you know, forty

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<v Speaker 2>five year old man.

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<v Speaker 3>How are theyish he would have been? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to aide him up.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think he owns listening, so I think he

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<v Speaker 2>owned the business.

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<v Speaker 3>Think he would have been like in his forties. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 3>But he.

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<v Speaker 1>Said that his girlfriend listens to the podcast and absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what this is her shout out to

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<v Speaker 2>all the boyfriend friends of girlfriends who listened to this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>And there were also a lot of ex boyfriends as

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<v Speaker 2>in the girlfriend got them onto it, and now they've

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<v Speaker 2>broken up and they still listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we call them the boyfriends of life on Cut

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<v Speaker 1>Life of Boyfeuds. Anyway, I said, Oh, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>He loves it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he give it to me for free? She's like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>he charged. We're still shouting him out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, do you know I have something I want

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you before we get into answering all your

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<v Speaker 2>deep dark and you're burning questions. This is the dumbest

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<v Speaker 2>thing I think I'll ever ask you. But it came

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<v Speaker 2>up as a debate between Matt and I actually wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even a debate. So Mac gets out of the shower

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<v Speaker 2>last night, and I thought that this was a parody.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that this is just something like that was

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<v Speaker 2>like satirically said that men do. He gets out of

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<v Speaker 2>the shower, he gets his towel and he slings it

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<v Speaker 2>between his legs and like rubs between his legs, like

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<v Speaker 2>almost like he's flossing his ball sack.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like when you try and pretend to a sexy dance. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was like what.

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<v Speaker 2>This was just a dry dance. This was literally just

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<v Speaker 2>to dry himself. Is this something that men actually do?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't think what's a joke. No, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think any I think people just put the towel. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think you're sling it between there and go back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth like a shimmy. Yeah, like you're literally I

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<v Speaker 2>think you just use the towel in your hand like

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<v Speaker 2>you normally wouldn't try you all.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe men do that. Maybe that's the thing that

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<v Speaker 3>guys do.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt was trying to convince me that, like, yeah, girls

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<v Speaker 2>don't do it because it would be uncomfortable, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>something that men do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, really, I've never seen a man

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<v Speaker 1>do that in my life. And you have seen a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of men single ten years. Yeah, I've seen a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of men. I have never seen anyone do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's a thing. I think that's just

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<v Speaker 1>a maddy ja thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what else is not a thing? Men

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<v Speaker 2>who stand up to wipe their butts, but they do it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of men again.

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<v Speaker 1>Made Jay, there's a common denominator Okay, I have This.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a bit of research for you all. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a relationship or if you're a man, you can

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<v Speaker 2>just take note of yourself. Do you because girls don't

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<v Speaker 2>do it, we don't need to. But do you stand

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<v Speaker 2>up as a man to wipe your backs? Why does

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<v Speaker 2>he have to see it up to wise? He told

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<v Speaker 2>me that men do.

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<v Speaker 1>But why when you say girls don't have to, but

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<v Speaker 1>men do? What's the difference? It's in the same position.

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<v Speaker 3>A bit junk in the front makes it a bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>We have our own junk, dooye?

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know. He just said that men stand

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<v Speaker 3>up to wipe their bumbs.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you stand up, your butt cheeks actually close.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, you're not standing up right, like completely

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<v Speaker 2>in a full, full vertical position.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like you're crouched. You just crouched up over the toe.

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<v Speaker 1>He hunts up and leans forward. Yeah, he's in a

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<v Speaker 1>forty five degree angole.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like squatting over the toilet.

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<v Speaker 1>Reach around.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, something else I wanted to talk to you about,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a little bit more important and also interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>thank fuck, is it's an article that was written we

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<v Speaker 2>had Jana Hawking on the podcast on Tuesday to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Childless by Toys, which was the topic that we

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<v Speaker 2>kind of did a deep dive on, but Jane did

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<v Speaker 2>she did an article. She wrote an article recently and

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<v Speaker 2>this was in news dot com, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>get your opinion on this brick because I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>find this concept interesting. The title of the article is

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<v Speaker 2>the real reason women are never happy with a nice

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<v Speaker 2>guy and it's got nothing to do with being nice. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the sentiment is that, you know, there's this old trope

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<v Speaker 2>that like, women don't like nice guys and that the

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<v Speaker 2>poor nice guys always finished last. However, Janet in this

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<v Speaker 2>article is presenting the idea that it's not so much

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't like nice guys, but we don't like

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<v Speaker 2>guys who are constantly available, like who are there?

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<v Speaker 3>And who are you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Which is kind of shit right, Like guys who are

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<v Speaker 2>eager guys, who are you know? Hey, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to do on Saturday night? Sunday night? Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>free on Monday night. It's like we are conditioned to

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<v Speaker 2>want the chase, and the chase is what makes the

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<v Speaker 2>relationship desirable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't think that's just us I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that works in reverse. I think that's in nature.

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<v Speaker 1>So you think men are the same. Men don't want

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<v Speaker 1>women to be available, but they want to think that

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<v Speaker 1>they've got to chase. They want to think that they've

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<v Speaker 1>got to work for it. It's exactly the same. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know this because I've had friends tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that that's gendered though, right, Like, I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely think that it's kind of known that men like

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<v Speaker 2>the chase. That's the argument that's been as old as

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<v Speaker 2>an old chase time. But that's what I'm saying. It's

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<v Speaker 2>well known that men like the ch that's what we

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<v Speaker 2>have been like socially conditioned to believe. But I actually

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<v Speaker 2>think women, a lot of women like the chase equally

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<v Speaker 2>as much.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I wouldn't argue that point. I think absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>human nature, this is what we want, we want what

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<v Speaker 1>we can't have, we want what we think is a

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<v Speaker 1>challenge and when we have to work for I one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent I'm on board with that. I think every

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<v Speaker 1>time you think something's not available to you, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but I really wanted that, and then you're like, but

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<v Speaker 1>did you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like with a job opportunity or something like

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<v Speaker 2>even if you don't really want it, but then you

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<v Speaker 2>don't get it, it makes you be like, well, but

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you give it to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And you're like did you want it? And you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>well no, no, but I want to want me But

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<v Speaker 1>now I want it. I know exactly. I was listening

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<v Speaker 1>to Matthew Hussey literally talk about this yesterday in bed.

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<v Speaker 1>I roll over sometimes if I'm in the mood, I

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<v Speaker 1>put a bit of Matthew Ussy on. I'm a big fan.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys don't know who Matthew Hussy is, give

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<v Speaker 1>him a little Google. But he's a relationship specialist.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we've been trying to get him on this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>for three years now. The guy wants doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>bar R.

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<v Speaker 1>I was with my friend two days ago who's brought

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<v Speaker 1>him up in conversation, was like, I've just got a

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<v Speaker 1>message Matt. I was like who, and he's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew Ussey, And I was like, what, I want him

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast. Let's make this happen anyway. I'm working

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<v Speaker 1>on it there with me washed his space twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we come, Matthew Hussey. Yeah, I'm going to manifest it.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was saying exactly that, right. He's like, the

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<v Speaker 1>second that somebody pulls away from you, whether you like

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<v Speaker 1>them or not, is when you want them. And he

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<v Speaker 1>goes into it's almost like a whole ted talk, but

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<v Speaker 1>he makes a lot of sense and he speaks very

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<v Speaker 1>very clearly about it. But it is like that, it's food,

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<v Speaker 1>it's jobs, it's opportunities, it's people.

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<v Speaker 3>It's love.

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<v Speaker 1>When we think we're not allowed to have it anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>we want it more. I am so bad to that.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at everything in my life, right, I am

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<v Speaker 1>a classic example of when I can't have something, I

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<v Speaker 1>want it more. That's why I always date people that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't here, because I want them so much more.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I'm like physically in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not physically available emotionally available, like my panties

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<v Speaker 1>are off, I'm like, dangn that is so fucking not good.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's true.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but what am I supposed to be about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Seeks in help Speak to Matthew Us if he came

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast Seek Some Soul Searching, Self Development Help

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<v Speaker 2>Speak to a psychiatrists.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know no, and guys, we do joke about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I do actually like the people that I date that

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<v Speaker 1>are that are not here like I'm joking and physically

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<v Speaker 1>won't be with me. No, I'm very I am obviously

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<v Speaker 1>seriously interested in them. But it is something I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we need to consider a lot more. Okay, as

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<v Speaker 1>an example of reverse, So I was seeing this guy

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<v Speaker 1>like six months ago, you know who I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I really liked him, and he at the time really

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<v Speaker 1>liked me. But because I liked him more like, I

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<v Speaker 1>was giving him a lot of my time, because I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I would date this person I think like

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<v Speaker 1>I think I like this person. I gave him so

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<v Speaker 1>much of my time that he started to pull away.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, oh, I'm just not ready. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, don't have the energy for it. I'm done,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm looking for relationships. So I pulled away.

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<v Speaker 1>Then all of a sudden, he came back. The second

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<v Speaker 1>I left. He was like, You're everything to me, And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like.

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<v Speaker 3>What the chase is so exhausting though, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>But because I could see it, because I'm so emotion

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<v Speaker 1>and immature and we've researched so much, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't like me actually, and he's like, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>do I really can we make this work? And I

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<v Speaker 1>just called him on his bluff. I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing you a favor. I'm doing me a favor. You

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<v Speaker 1>are not interested in me. We know this because we

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<v Speaker 1>tried it. You just want me because now I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want you. And I don't know if that's true. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he does really like me, but that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I genuinely feel.

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<v Speaker 2>I find it's a really interesting one because I hate

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<v Speaker 2>that this is how we're socially conditioned, because all we're

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<v Speaker 2>doing is robbing ourselves of potentially really great partners who

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<v Speaker 2>are not only available and interested, but also reliable and

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<v Speaker 2>stable and constant. And I know that that's like not

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<v Speaker 2>the sexiest thing, because we all want like the fireworks

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<v Speaker 2>and the drama at the start. But there's something to

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<v Speaker 2>be said about someone who is genuinely interested in you

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<v Speaker 2>and is making you aware that they want to be

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<v Speaker 2>with you, like valuing your time, and it's it's so

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<v Speaker 2>shit that we often discard that person and will pursue

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<v Speaker 2>someone who makes our life so hard just because there's

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<v Speaker 2>more reward in the chase.

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<v Speaker 3>The one thing I do want to say.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's interesting for me though in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>like my relationship with Matt, Matt is I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 2>got a bit of sas to I wouldn't say he's

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<v Speaker 2>like such a nice guy that he's got no personality,

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<v Speaker 2>But when it comes down to being a nice guy,

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<v Speaker 2>like he is a nice person, like he treats me well,

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<v Speaker 2>he is a very very nice person.

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<v Speaker 1>I would agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I would never have dated him had I not met

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<v Speaker 3>him on The Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because he was too nice to you, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would have been like, oh my god, this guy likes

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<v Speaker 2>me too much.

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<v Speaker 3>He's boring.

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<v Speaker 1>He wouldn't have fought with you or anything. He wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have argued, he wouldn't have debated. He would have been like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>my beautiful angel, and you would have been like, ew yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But also because he would have been so available to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing about The Bachelor is that even though

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't have the drama in terms of like his personality,

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<v Speaker 1>like there was no drama in his affection for me

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<v Speaker 1>or in the time that we spent.

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<v Speaker 3>Together, but there was a hell of a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>fucking drama at.

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<v Speaker 2>The start of our relationship, Like the drama was all

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<v Speaker 2>in the fact that I didn't know whether he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be with me and I had to compete against

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four other women, Like, yes, why you were hooked?

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<v Speaker 3>It's one hundred percent, Like obviously it's wasn't the.

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<v Speaker 1>Good looks, the abs in a really nice guy, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously I love the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>But like on the flip side to that, I can

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<v Speaker 2>fully look back on that time and go, oh, it

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<v Speaker 2>was loaded with a lot of drama.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a reason. There's a book called Why Men

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<v Speaker 1>Love Bitches and it is a best selling book, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not about women being bitches. But there's a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about women being able to call bullshit, knowing their

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<v Speaker 1>self worth, knowing when to walk away from something or

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<v Speaker 1>they've had enough for you, knowing their boundaries. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of saying you know what you're not for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like the way you're acting and walking away.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when men are attracted to them because they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>think they're going to lose someone. So it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of being a horrible and a bad boy or

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<v Speaker 1>a bad woman or a bitch or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's I guess it's just knowing what you want

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<v Speaker 1>in your worth. But it's interesting that we still do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We still even you and I. We've done so much

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<v Speaker 1>research on this, like four years we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>these things. We know, we know it, We've spoken to

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<v Speaker 1>the experts, but I can still see sometimes slipping into

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<v Speaker 1>my own life. I am aware, but it's funny because

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<v Speaker 1>you have to really check yourself on it, because we

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<v Speaker 1>do want the nice guy at the end of the day, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we do want someone that treats as well. We want

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<v Speaker 1>someone available. We want someone nice, emotionally mature.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you want someone who like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean like it's obviously everyone wants someone who's nice to.

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<v Speaker 1>Them, but like then pulls your hair in the bedroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But also but like who is genuinely available? Like

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<v Speaker 2>who is available with their time, with their priorities, with

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<v Speaker 2>their love, with their effects, Like all that stuff is

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<v Speaker 2>so fucking important.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing, I think, don't do this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not what I'm suggesting, But I'm like, curious,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think it could be used as a tactic

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<v Speaker 2>to get someone to like you more? Like, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in the early stages of dating and you're

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<v Speaker 2>like caught up in the buzz of like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to spend every second in my day, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, talking to this person and being with this

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<v Speaker 2>person because I'm just like so infatuated. Is it a

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<v Speaker 2>tactic to kind of go, hey, do you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>like let's just see each other once this week instead

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<v Speaker 2>of like you know, three times this week or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is that you would want to do because you

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<v Speaker 2>want to see them whenever they're available. Is that a

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<v Speaker 2>way of, like, you know, one, pacing the relationship a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit better so that way you can't be love bombed,

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<v Speaker 2>but also kind of like creating this chase in a

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<v Speaker 2>healthy way with at it becoming like this big, dramatic, unavailable,

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<v Speaker 2>toxic bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yes, I think people do one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>use that as a tactic.

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<v Speaker 3>Hats off to you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, if you've got self control, you've got to self control.

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<v Speaker 1>You better woman than I A.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get into answering or you're deep, you're dark,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're burning questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Question one is withholding a pregnancy deceitful?

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<v Speaker 3>From who?

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<v Speaker 1>This is where I put in music, like from your partner?

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<v Speaker 1>That's your question? No, there's more. Okay, I've been working

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<v Speaker 1>pretty hard, going above and beyond in my current role,

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<v Speaker 1>as there is a promotion coming up with my name

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<v Speaker 1>all over it. I work in a team of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>guys and I am constantly taking on their work. Then

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<v Speaker 1>a new job will be a lot of work. But

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<v Speaker 1>I am passionate about my project and it's only two years.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I'd go back to my current job. The letter

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<v Speaker 1>of offer has been held up for months, but is

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<v Speaker 1>likely to be here before Christmas to start in January. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I have just found out I am pregnant and I

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<v Speaker 1>am due in July. Do I owe it to my

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<v Speaker 1>boss to tell him before I sign my contract? Can

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<v Speaker 1>I withhold this as it is so early in the pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I just take it and just do six months

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<v Speaker 1>of the contract, possibly to return for a bit after

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<v Speaker 1>maternity leave. I'm worried if I let the opportunity go

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<v Speaker 1>and stay in my current job, which I do also love,

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<v Speaker 1>I will just be handing a very rare senior opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to one of the guys in my team who have

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<v Speaker 1>all been just cruising all year. Do I need the

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<v Speaker 1>stress of a new job whilst navigating pregnancy. Do I

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<v Speaker 1>really want to tell my boss about an early pregnancy

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<v Speaker 1>in case it falls through? I don't want to be deceitful,

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<v Speaker 1>but this role was created for me, and I certainly

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<v Speaker 1>bloody deserve it.

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<v Speaker 3>Help.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, this is so yeah. To summarize, she's early pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 1>The promotion is coming up. She knows she deserves it,

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<v Speaker 1>she knows she wants it. If she takes it, she'll

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<v Speaker 1>only get six months. Then you have to go on

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<v Speaker 1>matt leave because it's a two year position.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I think the only issue with this, and

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<v Speaker 2>like my very first reaction as somebody who has had

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<v Speaker 2>kids and who has also been in a situation where

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<v Speaker 2>my manager like, Okay, I'll just tell you the backstory

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<v Speaker 2>for it. When I used to work in graphic design

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<v Speaker 2>and I used to work for in Farmer. This is

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<v Speaker 2>long before the batch days. Basically, I sat just below

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<v Speaker 2>the marketing manager, and I got hired into this pharmaceutical company.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had done my trial period three month trial period,

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<v Speaker 2>and then as soon as my three month trial period

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<v Speaker 2>was over, my boss told me that she was pregnant.

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<v Speaker 2>She was going on maternity le so she'd known pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much the whole time that she was pregnant.

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<v Speaker 3>They had hired me so that I could.

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<v Speaker 2>Cover for her, but they basically did it so that

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<v Speaker 2>I could take over the marketing manager's position without being

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<v Speaker 2>paid to be a marketing manager. So there was someone

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<v Speaker 2>to pick up the work. And I felt really deceived

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<v Speaker 2>by it. But also I was like, well, she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to tell me anything, right, they she doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to tell me that she's pregnant before she's ready and

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<v Speaker 2>willing to tell me that she's pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>But also it should be paid because you're doing any

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<v Speaker 1>new job.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's a whole other kettle of fish.

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<v Speaker 2>But just coming back to the whole pregnancy conversation, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't be annoyed as an employer that your employee

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<v Speaker 2>didn't tell you about their early pregnancy, especially because a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of women want to get to that three month

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<v Speaker 2>mark before they feel comfortable even talking about pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a very personal thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And also, who's to say that you know you're pregnant,

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<v Speaker 1>yet a lot of people take them a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>time to conc think she knows she's pregnant, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>question exists. No, the boss, you could get the promotion

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<v Speaker 1>and then a month later be like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I've just found out and pregnant. They don't know when

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<v Speaker 1>you found out. And yes, there is a level of

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<v Speaker 1>deceitfulness because you know when you're choosing to withhold it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think anyone should be forced to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about something personal when they don't want to or they're

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<v Speaker 1>not ready for whatever reason. And on top of that,

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately it's the way of life. Women carry the baby,

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<v Speaker 1>So in your relationship, you're carrying the baby. That shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop you from going for a promotion, because that's when

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<v Speaker 1>the times cross. Even if you do, unless you're planning

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<v Speaker 1>on taking two years maternity leave, which is the entire

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<v Speaker 1>promotional contract, I'd probably say don't go for it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not physically going to be here, you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to do the job, so there's no point. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you're just going to take a normal maternity leave, you

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<v Speaker 1>can still do six months at the start, take your leave,

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<v Speaker 1>you can still come back. I would probably still go

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<v Speaker 1>for the promotion because you know you deserve it. You

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<v Speaker 1>work hard, and it's not fair for you to not

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<v Speaker 1>go for a job you want. But it does put

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<v Speaker 1>the employee in a tricky position too, because in six

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<v Speaker 1>months time they still have to hire someone else. Someone

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<v Speaker 1>still is going to have to cover your position.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a fact. Yeah, And I think that that's like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the big one for me.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why this has got a gray area for

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<v Speaker 2>me is because it's not a full time, long term

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<v Speaker 2>employment opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not just an ongoing employment opportunity, which in

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<v Speaker 2>which case I would say, no, get your raise, get

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<v Speaker 2>your new positioning, and then take your time off. If

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<v Speaker 2>you know you want to go back to work after

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<v Speaker 2>having babies, then like that shouldn't be the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>prohibits you from advancing your career. But the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>this is only a contract job and you are physically

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<v Speaker 2>unable to do the contract, and you know you're unable

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<v Speaker 2>to do the contract, there is a part of me

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<v Speaker 2>that's like, for your own sake, for your own sense

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<v Speaker 2>of self, is it worth it? And I'm not thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about it from a company perspective. I'm thinking about it

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<v Speaker 2>from what does your maternity leave look like to you? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to take six months? Do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to take three months? Do you want to take a year?

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to take a full year maternity leave

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<v Speaker 2>and you're only able to do really eight months of

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<v Speaker 2>the whole contract, then is it worth it to do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I would probably say in that case, like, don't

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<v Speaker 2>bother with it, because it's an added amount of stress

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<v Speaker 2>and there may be pressure on you to come back

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<v Speaker 2>earlier from your maternity leave if you're not ready to

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<v Speaker 2>because it is a senior position and you know, of

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<v Speaker 2>course it's not meant to be like that, but a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of work and employeers put pressure on people to

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<v Speaker 2>come back earlier from maternity leave, especially in high senior roles.

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<v Speaker 2>So that would be my own consideration. I'm like, is

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<v Speaker 2>it worth you taking on this job? But if you

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<v Speaker 2>really really want it and you think that it's something

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<v Speaker 2>that you can still add value to the company and

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<v Speaker 2>it can add value to you, then go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I would do. I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep it a fucking secret until people are like, yeah, Sarah,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going.

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<v Speaker 1>On we're from home for nine months. No, I would

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<v Speaker 1>go for the promotion, not say anything. I would just

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<v Speaker 1>go for the promotion based on just you and your

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<v Speaker 1>skill and what you want. Hopefully you get it, which

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you will. Then when you feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>one month, two months, however long in you can notify

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that you're pregnant. You have to tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Then that's when you can have a discussion with your employer.

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<v Speaker 1>At least that way minimum, even if you decide to

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<v Speaker 1>pass the job over someone else, like you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have an option, right, at least you get

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<v Speaker 1>six months of the promotion. No one's ever gonna hold

0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:51.200
<v Speaker 1>that against you that you felt pregnant in that time.

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<v Speaker 1>So for you, for a CV, even if it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the six months, it's gonna look good. You're gonna feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be able to prove a lot in the six

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<v Speaker 1>months time, and it's just unfortunate timing that you did

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<v Speaker 1>a pregnant within the promotion. The only thing that they

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<v Speaker 1>might hold against you though, is I mean, you're already

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<v Speaker 1>it's apparently like eight weeks or so, like you're eight

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<v Speaker 1>weeks pregnant. So if you tell them, like just say,

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<v Speaker 1>this contract doesn't come through until right at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the year and you are literally at the three

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<v Speaker 1>month mark, they're gonna know or they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>very very suspicious that you weren't transparent with them.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think there how pregnant she is.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she said that she's like the mass there

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<v Speaker 2>sounds about eight weeks ish. Yeah, so I guess like

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<v Speaker 2>that's the only thing, like if you think that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know it shouldn't be the case, but it's more

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<v Speaker 2>so just from like how you sit with your employer.

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<v Speaker 2>If your employer feels like you kept that a secret

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<v Speaker 2>in order to get a promotion, but then you weren't

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<v Speaker 2>able to do the job, like physically can't do the

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<v Speaker 2>job because you're not going to be there for the

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<v Speaker 2>contract term, that might leave a really bad taste in

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<v Speaker 2>their mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not saying that that's the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>All I'm saying is is that if it was a

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<v Speaker 2>different position, as in like a long term position, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I would feel a bit different about it because

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<v Speaker 2>it's a contract.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but really I'm still going to tell her to

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<v Speaker 1>go for it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm going yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that is me. I'm a big opportunity taker. I

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<v Speaker 1>think if the opportunity is there, you've worked hard for it,

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<v Speaker 1>you want it, I would go for it and deal

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<v Speaker 1>with it after. You can have a conversation with your

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<v Speaker 1>boss in six months time. If you think you can

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<v Speaker 1>just hand it over to one of these other guys anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll do that in six months, Like in a six

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<v Speaker 1>months time, that same guy is going to get the job.

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<v Speaker 1>At least you proved yourself for six months.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know what, it is such a shit

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<v Speaker 2>thing that, like it's obviously part and parcel of wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to have kids, but like as women we cop the

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<v Speaker 2>brunt of it. As women, we're the ones who have

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<v Speaker 2>our careers delayed. Like there is a sense of and

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<v Speaker 2>I guess this is something that I experienced. There is

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<v Speaker 2>this feeling when you first have children of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I can just I'll just do it all, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's fine, I'll juggle it all, I'll do it all.

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<v Speaker 3>But you physically can't do it all at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is really challenging to keep on progressing your

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<v Speaker 2>career and also have kids simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a big conversation to have with your.

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<v Speaker 2>Partner around like how do you guys navigate what work

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<v Speaker 2>looks like for you in the few and who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to do the line's share of the parenting so that

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<v Speaker 2>the other person can progress their career And then when

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<v Speaker 2>do you swap like who what does that look like

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<v Speaker 2>then in five years time?

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<v Speaker 3>But that's all kind of like down the road and

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<v Speaker 3>bigger picture stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Question number two.

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<v Speaker 3>Rock and roll lever all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Question number two. I met someone very special this year. However,

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<v Speaker 2>it has been a roller coaster since we met. My

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<v Speaker 2>dad died, I then had an abortion, and I moved overseas. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we have remained through each other's lives throughout this as

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<v Speaker 2>he's also overseas now too, but he has recently gone

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<v Speaker 2>off to figure out his life and do his own

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<v Speaker 2>thing because he said that he needs space. He said

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<v Speaker 2>he loves me very much and wants me in his life,

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<v Speaker 2>but he doesn't know to what extent right now. I

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<v Speaker 2>love him so much and I keep coming back to

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<v Speaker 2>this thought that he is the one and we're meant

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<v Speaker 2>to be together.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this naive? How do you know if someone is

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<v Speaker 3>the one?

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<v Speaker 2>And how can I get over this heartbreak I currently

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<v Speaker 2>feel and the fear that we won't end up together.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I can be okay on my own, but

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<v Speaker 2>I want him in my life and I feel helpless. Please,

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<v Speaker 2>this is interesting. I was talking about this. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>we went to esther Perel last week.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was one of the questions from the audience

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<v Speaker 1>members to esther onstage and with how do you know

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<v Speaker 1>you're the one? How do you know someone's the one?

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<v Speaker 1>And then we had a conversation off And now I've

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<v Speaker 1>been speaking to a lot of people about it. But

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<v Speaker 1>my parents been married for forty five years. They're in love,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember I've asked them multiple times. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what was it? Like there has to have been something

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<v Speaker 1>because they met and got engaged and married very quickly, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it? And it was always just you just know,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's no magic recipe, there's no formula. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a feeling. But the thing is, it's a reciprocal feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>If somebody doesn't feel it back for you, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>the one. They're physically not the one. They don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the relationship. That's always a really bitter,

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 1>hard pill to swallow when there is a love that

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<v Speaker 1>is not reciprocated. In this situation, it's tricky because you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying that he's saying the right things. He's telling you

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<v Speaker 1>you're very important, he wants you in his life, but

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<v Speaker 1>not yet, and he doesn't know how and he needs

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<v Speaker 1>to go and do his thing and have his space.

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<v Speaker 1>There is not a lot you can do other than

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<v Speaker 1>let him go and have his space. It's what he wants.

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:14.360
<v Speaker 1>He's right now choosing not to have you in his

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<v Speaker 1>life for whatever reason that is. We don't know what

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 1>he's going through, but right now he's making a conscious

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<v Speaker 1>choice of wanting to do life on his own. The

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<v Speaker 1>really important thing here is that you don't put your

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<v Speaker 1>life on hold for this. You can still have these

0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 1>feelings and think about him, but don't let these little

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<v Speaker 1>breadcrumbs be enough to stop you from living. And that

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>is something that a lot of people do. I have

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<v Speaker 1>done it very much. So it's very easy to hold

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 1>onto something when you think someone is the one. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are, he will come back to you and if

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<v Speaker 1>it's right, you will be available, ready, free. But don't

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<v Speaker 1>don't wait and waste, not waste, but don't put your

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<v Speaker 1>life on hold. That's the really big drive home here.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, just on what you said, Britt, the whole

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<v Speaker 2>idea of like I just knew that they were the one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a very simplified way of describing your relationship, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm sure your dad and your mom weren't just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought that they were the one, and so

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 2>therefore they were the one. I reckon. Your dad and

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<v Speaker 2>your mom both consistently showed up to that relationship. They

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<v Speaker 2>were loving to each other, they were kind to each other,

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 2>they complimented each other, they proved that each other were

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 2>the support person.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, there's so many.

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Other factors there that are the indicators of the reason

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 2>why you felt that that person was the one, and

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<v Speaker 2>purely going off feelings alone, you can be wrong. I

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 2>thought other people were the one and they weren't the one,

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 2>of course.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's because you weren't the one for them.

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<v Speaker 2>But they also weren't the one for me because they

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:42.959
<v Speaker 2>treated me like shit. But I still thought that they

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<v Speaker 2>were the one. I don't think that that feelings are

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<v Speaker 2>a good indication or a relationship. I think the way

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:50.920
<v Speaker 2>people show up in the relationship are a good indication

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:52.400
<v Speaker 2>of a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course. But let me just add in. My parents

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 1>met one day, then broke up with their partners and

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>knew they were the one. After one meeting, that was it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was busy. My mum just said, I do

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<v Speaker 1>not know what it was five hours they knew each other.

0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>That's beautifully romantic, but I think it's not realistic. Yeah,

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.959
<v Speaker 1>it gives people this unrealistic because it could have not

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>worked out, do you know what I mean?

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 2>It could have not been the case. And there's also

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot of luck that goes into that. That's when

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 2>chemistry meets luck and it's just two really good people

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 2>who got together. But I think totally when we oversimplify it,

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 2>we then lean into this idea of soulmates, and then

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 2>by doing that, it means that people hold onto things thinking, well,

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.679
<v Speaker 2>it has to be this person, and we can.

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 3>Be very, very wrong, is all I'm trying to say.

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I feel like Matt and I have

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 2>this beautiful meet cute and I feel like we're soulmates.

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 2>But then I think back on past relationships and I'm like, man,

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I was convinced, convinced.

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 3>That my ex boyfriend was the man I was going

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 3>to marry.

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, I was with him for six years and

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 2>I told everyone like, he's the person I was going

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>to spend my life with. And I was wrong, and

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad I was wrong. But it takes a

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 2>lot of time from that relationship, and it takes a

0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of distance to actually get to a point in

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 2>your life when you have the amazing things that happen

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 2>where you go. God, it's so good being wrong sometimes.

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, this is why I'm saying, you have to accept

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>what he's telling you. At the moment, he's telling you

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>he's choosing not to have you in his life, and

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>you can't do anything other than respect that and know

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>that if it is right, you're both still put in

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the work. You can still stay in contact. I don't know.

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:20.719
<v Speaker 1>If he said I don't want any contact with you,

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe you still want to chat. The only drive home

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>for me is if you want to do that and

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 1>have that contact, that's so fine, But don't put every

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>other opportunity and option and person you could meet. Don't

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>put that aside because you've got tunnel vision for this

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 1>one person that you've convinced yourself is the one for you.

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>He could beat you. Guys could get together and have

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>the best life, but he also might worst case, he

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>might never come back. He might go away. He could

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>meet someone. I know that's horrible, but all I'm saying

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>is when two things are supposed to happen, I do

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>think that will happen. Obviously you put the work in,

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 1>you still keep the communication, but you both got to

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 1>want it the same amount, because it's really really hard

0:29:58.000 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>to make relationships work.

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's easy though, in terms of like

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 2>when you say, like, if you still want to talk

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 2>to them, you can keep in communication, keep a contact.

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's really hard when you're physically so

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 2>in love with someone and they don't want to be

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 2>with you. I think it's really quite challenging to stay

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 2>in contact and then still be open to other opportunities,

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>because how do you get over something when you still

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 2>hold onto hope.

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's what's a question. I guess the thing

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>is here. He's not saying I don't want to be

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>with you, let's be friends. That's not what it is.

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>So it's really hard, I imagine I for you to

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>move on because he said I want to be with you,

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 1>but not now.

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 3>So that even worse.

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 2>That's like I want to be with you, but like

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to fuck you around for a couple of years.

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 3>I think that that is like the worst option.

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 2>A kind of thing to do would be, Hey, I

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know what I want right now, but I know

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 2>it's not you so I need.

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 3>To go and find myself.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 2>And then, like, I think it's really cruel when people

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 2>leave an open ended opportunity for themselves in someone else's life.

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Very selfish, and that's why people are still they keep

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 1>you there as a backup. Oh if things don't work out,

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe I can go back there because I've

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>left those few little breadcrumbs and I know she was

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty great. I know they were pretty great, so they

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be the worst backup. And I'm not saying that's

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>what this is, but people consciously and subconsciously do do this.

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 2>And also they're like, well, I'm going to go out

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 2>there and see what else is better, and if I

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 2>can't find anything better, I'll be back.

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one hundred percent. Remember that guy from New York

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and I've told you guys about him over the years, Right,

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>any of these OJ listeners, there was this thing to

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 1>that guy.

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Didn't he come back in the scenes for a little

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 2>wi Yeah he came back, So again he's lit.

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 3>This guy, he's literally like the ghost of Christmas past.

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 3>He was always like that.

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I always sort of said to him, you know, the

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>one that got away kind of thing. That's how I

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 1>felt right, because at the time this has gone on

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.959
<v Speaker 1>over a decade. I'm not kidding ten years. This has

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>been on and off, on and off. He was like,

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>you're everything. Want to marry you. Then he's like, na, psych,

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>don't really want to change my mind. We were flying

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>all over the world to see each other. It was

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>like all this on and off, on and off. This guy,

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Brittany flew to New York. This is many years ago.

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>She flewd to New York to be with him. After

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>he was like, only from England, though, you're my soulmate.

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And then she got there and he was like, oh,

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I made a mistake. Well you only said

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>He was crying and he said on paper, he said

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>this on behavior, you're everything. He's like, but I just

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>feel like something's missing and I can't work it out

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and then I pay for your everything.

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 2>But in real life it's just yes, so just tell

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 2>me I'm not it just like you don't like burn

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 2>the paper in my face.

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, he was crying when he was saying it. He

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>definitely had feelings for me, right, This has a point,

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>this story. So then I was not upset anymore because

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:30.959
<v Speaker 1>by this point it had been going on for six

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 1>or seven years. So I left him that day and

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I said it is done, we are done, leave me alone,

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>move on. I was like, move on because he was

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the one that kept coming back to me, not me.

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 3>Move on.

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>He has come back again now as in like the

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>last few months. This is ten years on and he

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>was like yet, yes, no, I'm not kidding. He said,

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 1>it's always been you like and but I called him

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:55.719
<v Speaker 1>on it and I said that do you know what

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I said? I said, it's not me, Ben, that's not

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>his name. I was just couldn't I am. I was like, Frank.

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:04.479
<v Speaker 1>I was like, it's not me. Frank. I was like,

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>what has happened? It is I've had used to think

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>about it. I said, no, you had used to find

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>someone else. You haven't and you realize that I'm probably

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>good enough, so you've come back. And he's like, that's

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>not true. We had an argument, but now again, because

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm so emotionally mature, I could see right through it.

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's what people do. So that's what I want

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>this girl to be careful of.

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Or is it because he's making himself so available to

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 2>you now that you're like, nah, not interesting?

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Because he still lives overseas Question number three. Question number

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>three is wild?

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh God, strap yourselves in. Put it on your undies, literally, no,

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 2>take them off.

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I got out of a two year relationship a few

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>months ago where we had amazing sex every day. That's nice,

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>amazing sex every day. He had a really big girthy

0:33:56.360 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 1>fat dick. I had a dating again now, and every

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>time I sleep with someone, I can't help her feel

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>a bit disappointed in their size. I know this sounds

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 1>really superficial, but my ex has just ruined me. Is

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>this a thing? I've recently connected with someone and left

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 1>it a couple of dates to sleep with him, and

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the exact same thing happened that always happens. The sex

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>was actually really great, he was a very generous lover,

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:25.280
<v Speaker 1>and I came multiple times, but I couldn't help thinking

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>about my ex's dick. She's been digmatized.

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Wait would you say that she was dick appointed?

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and digmatized combined. Sorry to write you this question.

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if it's too much, it's not, but

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to know if you've ever experienced this kind

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:41.359
<v Speaker 1>of a thing, and if I would just end up

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 1>moving past this eventually for an extra bit of background.

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 1>We ended on mutual terms. We just had different life paths.

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I genuinely knew that we were not good for each other,

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 1>But I can't stop thinking about his dick. That's ah,

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 1>you have been digmatized. It's a real thing. But you

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 1>can't take that into your future.

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh look, I mean I think it's fun. Do you

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 3>know why?

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I think it's fine. You've only recently broken up, Like

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 2>it's all recent. In a few months time, that dick

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 2>will be long gone in the past, or you'll find

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 2>a new dick that's fantastic. But like, I think that

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 2>this is okay because you not only not only does

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 2>it sound like you had a particularly lovely penis, but

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 2>you also become very fond of how good sex is

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:24.279
<v Speaker 2>with someone right, Like you become fond of the fact

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 2>that like they know you completely. Like it's not that

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 2>it's your penis, but it's like the penis that you own,

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 2>your pen but you've become very familiar with it, you know.

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:35.800
<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden there's someone else's foreign

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 2>genitalia in your face, and it's like, oh God, is

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 2>that one? Well, wherever I'm sure it's all around it.

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 2>I think that this is probably more common than what

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 2>we think. But like in terms of you, for example,

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 2>like the first time you see another penis after having

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 2>one for a very long time.

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:54.280
<v Speaker 3>How do you feel.

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Are you just like, oh, that's god, what am I

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna do with that?

0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, I remember, this isn't to do with the penis,

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's something similar that I remembered. I wasn't with

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 1>anyone for so long after Jordan, as you guys know,

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 1>like almost until the end of the year, Like it

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>was a long time, right, I kissed the first time

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:14.320
<v Speaker 1>I kissed someone this year, I told you, guys, I

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>got out of the car and I was like, I

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't like it. It was weird. I didn't recognize the lips.

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 3>It's foreign.

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:22.359
<v Speaker 1>There was no facial hair, obviously, children had a big mustache.

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:24.439
<v Speaker 1>It was foreign and it was different and I didn't

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>like it and I didn't want it because I was

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 1>obviously not over the relationship at the time. And I

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>think that's what it is. So maybe what Laura is

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>saying is right, it's very soon for you. You said it's something.

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>It's just been a couple of months, so maybe you

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 1>haven't actually moved on yet.

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, also, now she's just got a foreign

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 2>phallic that she has to do.

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:43.319
<v Speaker 1>But she I mean, girl, what's the problem? You said

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>she came three times?

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I understand what she's saying. Okay.

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:48.919
<v Speaker 2>I also do think that we put a bit too

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 2>much emphasis on the esthetics of penises, right like, coming

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 2>back to this idea that like a guy needs to

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 2>have a really big penis to get you off.

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 3>There does not matter.

0:36:57.560 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter, and we all know that. And obviously,

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 2>like you just said, and obviously, like I said in

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 2>the question, you know he made you come three times.

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 3>I think that at.

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 2>The moment, you don't have an emotional connection, right, Like,

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.839
<v Speaker 2>you've not really met anyone that you've felt that like

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:14.880
<v Speaker 2>intense spark with, which is why the penis seems to

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.359
<v Speaker 2>be so important. It's such a point of like, oh God,

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 2>is this leveling up. I think once you meet someone

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 2>who you actually have that connection with, who you have

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 2>that spark with, you're gonna fall in love with their

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<v Speaker 2>penis just as much you're gonna love all of them equally.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't underestimate what an emotional connection totally and do

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of your life, like for your sex life.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a good point, Laura. Right now, she has

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<v Speaker 1>no I mean, I'm assuming you have no other connection

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<v Speaker 1>to these people other than it being purely physical, So

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have anything else to go off, You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have anything else that's intensifying the sex other than the sex.

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<v Speaker 1>And also right now, if you're going out and having

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<v Speaker 1>one night stands or you're just meeting people, there's no familiarity,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no knowing what people like. But I genuinely believe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not just saying this. I genuinely believe size doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's different for everyone. Everyone wants and needs different things.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you're both being generous lovers and you're passionate,

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<v Speaker 1>then the rest will come. And I think when you

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<v Speaker 1>do meet somebody that you have that connection with again,

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<v Speaker 1>your ex will completely fade and you'll move on wholeheartedly

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<v Speaker 1>and embrace the new penis.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it takes time, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Like embrace the penis. I was about to say it,

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<v Speaker 1>embrace the penis. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The last thing I want to say on this as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just off what you know you just said,

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<v Speaker 2>brit But like, in terms of this connection and chemistry

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<v Speaker 2>and everything else that grows when you actually have something

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<v Speaker 2>deeper with someone, Right, you can't compare anybody, And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't just mean penis, I mean personality connection penis. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't compare to somebody who you've had a two year

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<v Speaker 2>relation with shit with. It's like, no new person is

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<v Speaker 2>ever going to level up to what you have formed

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<v Speaker 2>over a two year period. And you also you set

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<v Speaker 2>yourself a disservice, like because what happens. And we do

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<v Speaker 2>this for all different reasons, right, Like we have a relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you've been with someone for five years, two years,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. You then go on a date and

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<v Speaker 2>you compare that person who you've only known for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of hours to the person who you've had years

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<v Speaker 2>of connection with. Nobody is ever going to level up.

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<v Speaker 2>Their penis isn't going to level up. Their personality isn't

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<v Speaker 2>going to level up. The connection you have with them

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<v Speaker 2>isn't going to level up. And it's like you're never

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get there in terms of like enjoyment or having

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<v Speaker 2>that with a new person if you're always comparing to

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<v Speaker 2>your ex.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think you need a bit of space.

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<v Speaker 1>And also who's to say you're not gonna find better,

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<v Speaker 1>better connection, better, better penis, better sex, better everything, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know that, so leave the comparisons at the doll.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we say here a life bunk cut as

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<v Speaker 1>of now. All right, that is it. Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>If you loved the episode, jump on and leave us

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<v Speaker 2>other pea any if you've got people in your life

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<v Speaker 2>who are dealing with similar predicaments, and you know the.

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<v Speaker 1>Drill, tell you mum, tell you dad, tell you dog,

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<v Speaker 1>tell your friends, tell you penis, and share the love.

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<v Speaker 2>Because imagine if somebody looked down at their penis and

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<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, penis, why don't we listen to this

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<v Speaker 2>episode of Life funk Cut uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're not circumspensive

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because we love lived wild