WEBVTT - Tips to Prevent Unwanted Christmas Kilos, Using Meal Replacements for Weight Loss, Road Testing Zero-Alcohol Wines and Bubbles And How to Say No to Food When It's On Offer

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Susie Burrow and I'm LeAnn Wood, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the Nutrition Couch, a weekly podcast from two of

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<v Speaker 1>Australia's leading dietitians, bringing you everything that is new in

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<v Speaker 1>the world of nutrition, diets and good food from the

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<v Speaker 1>Nutrition Couch. Today. Christmas is almost here, and so today

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<v Speaker 1>we share our best tips to prevent any Christmas kilos.

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<v Speaker 1>Our client case study is on meal replacement shakes and

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<v Speaker 1>how you can use them to support your weight loss goals.

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<v Speaker 1>We take a closer look at one of the many

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<v Speaker 1>zero alcohol wines you can now find, and our listener

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<v Speaker 1>question is how to say no to food when it's

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<v Speaker 1>on offer at Christmas time. But to start us off,

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<v Speaker 1>it's our very last episode before Christmas, and we just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to take a few minutes to whish all of

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners are very merry Christmas and a safe and

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<v Speaker 1>happy holiday. Agent Williant and we.

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<v Speaker 2>Will be back Sunday, January the ninth with the latest

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<v Speaker 2>in nutrition news, media trends and new food products. But

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<v Speaker 2>up until then, guys, we really hope everybody has a happy,

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<v Speaker 2>safe and nourished festive season too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be looking forward to a brand new year with

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<v Speaker 1>a new baby. Yes, that might change the conversation a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>This is pre recorded, FYI. Yeah, so I really hope

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<v Speaker 2>she's out by now, guys, But keep watching our social

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<v Speaker 2>media and I will let you know and.

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<v Speaker 1>We will catch up in the new year. But we

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<v Speaker 1>are recording in advance, and that's why there's a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a disconnect between when we're talking now and when

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<v Speaker 1>Leanne has the baby. But we'll be sure to put

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<v Speaker 1>a gorgeous photo as soon as we can on our

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram over the holiday break. But I think it's the

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<v Speaker 1>topic we wanted to talk about today. Was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a no brainer because over the last few weeks and

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<v Speaker 1>even months, I've been spending a lot of time with

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<v Speaker 1>my own clients and talking about how to actively prevent

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<v Speaker 1>weight game over the holiday period. And when we take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at the research around holiday and specifically Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>weight game, it's pretty strong research to show that the

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<v Speaker 1>average adult will gain at least a kilo or two.

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<v Speaker 1>And the most concerning thing about that is that we've

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<v Speaker 1>tracked it and know that that weight is ready lost again.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of weight that is that insidious creep

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<v Speaker 1>over time and we start another year a little bit heavier,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just continues to grow. And a really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>research study that I had looked up because I was

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<v Speaker 1>writing an article on this recently was an active intervention

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<v Speaker 1>in the UK to help people try and prevent weight

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<v Speaker 1>gain over the period. And one of these strategies was

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<v Speaker 1>to weigh themselves quite regularly throughout the period, but also

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<v Speaker 1>take some active steps around calorie consumption and exercise to

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<v Speaker 1>help prevent weight gain. And the most significant predictor of

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<v Speaker 1>weight gain preventionally and was weighing yourself. Now, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that that can be a controversial area. A lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>myself included, are not wayers. We don't hop on the

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<v Speaker 1>scales very often. But in its defense, what I would

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<v Speaker 1>say is keeping an eye on your weight, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>weighing or even just measuring your waist or a belt measurement,

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<v Speaker 1>is quite powerful in tracking because what we do know

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's much much harder to get weight off

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<v Speaker 1>once it's there, and the prevention is actually much more

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<v Speaker 1>much easier to do and assimilate. So you know, keeping

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<v Speaker 1>an eye on the scales and helping to prevent the

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<v Speaker 1>creep is very a thing that you can do that

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<v Speaker 1>has an evidence based around it. But for mely and

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<v Speaker 1>when we go into this period, for me, it's about mindset,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think subconsciously we give ourselves permission to gain weight,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the sense that we might skip gym sessions,

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<v Speaker 1>or give ourselves permission not to exercise, or use the

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<v Speaker 1>holidays as an excuse rather than an opportunity, and basically

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<v Speaker 1>throw any kind of food rule out the window and

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<v Speaker 1>give ourselves permission to eat vast quantities of foods we

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<v Speaker 1>never normally would saying because it's Christmas, Whereas I think

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<v Speaker 1>that if you go into Christmas with the mindset that is, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to indulge in enjoy foods, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to overeat and do minimal exercise. That's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the shift I like to see with my clients, and

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<v Speaker 1>going into it as an opportunity sometimes to move more

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<v Speaker 1>and take more control of your nutrition, of course, still

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<v Speaker 1>whilst enjoying those key holiday dates. What are your main

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<v Speaker 1>tips for your clients at this time of year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I agree with you, like I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's more so people give themselves permission to gain weight.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they just they kind of don't think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Or it's just something that I think is like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Christmas, like whatever, and then they kind of put

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<v Speaker 2>on a couple of kilos in January and they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh crap, what happened. It's almost like we kind of

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<v Speaker 2>we don't think about it and we don't plan for it,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's too late. By the time we do

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<v Speaker 2>jump on the scales or put on a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>favorite pair of jeans in January, we're like, oh wow,

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<v Speaker 2>these are like really tight. So I think it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of sort of pre planning ahead. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you know that you're someone who tends to start

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<v Speaker 2>a new diet on January the first, or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>be really disappointed with yourself in January because all your

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<v Speaker 2>hard work's been undone. I think it's just a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of that pre planning. And as you mentioned, Susie's

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<v Speaker 2>about that mentality and giving up that sort of all

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<v Speaker 2>or nothing mentality where just because it's Christmas it means

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<v Speaker 2>that we need to overindulge. We absolutely don't. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>we can have some treats. Of course, we can have

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<v Speaker 2>some delicious food and a few drinks and skip a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of gym sessions if we want, but we absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>need to aim for balance. Don't stop moving just because

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<v Speaker 2>it's December, don't stop eating your salad just because it's

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas Day. All of these wonderful things that we do

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<v Speaker 2>from a health perspective still matter and still count. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think for my clients, I'm really you know, getting

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<v Speaker 2>them to be quite mindful with social eating and particularly

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<v Speaker 2>drinking and just watching calories from drinks just alcohol. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of just juices, cordials, you know, fancy mocktails,

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of thing around this time of year. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they go hand in hand with the extra socializing as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm always wanted to say sort of try not

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<v Speaker 2>to drink your calories because it's just not that filling.

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<v Speaker 2>So whenever I'm at a restaurant, I'll basically just have

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<v Speaker 2>a coffee or I'll have a glass of water. That's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much my ordun ninety percent of the time from

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<v Speaker 2>a drink perspective, I would much rather sort of eat

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<v Speaker 2>my calories because it's a lot more fillings. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think just doing some simple swaps this time of year

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<v Speaker 2>can be really really helpful and not sort of putting

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<v Speaker 2>your head in the sand and then coming out in

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<v Speaker 2>January and being like, oh crap, now I've put on

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of keel as. Now I have to lose

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<v Speaker 2>it again. It's much easier to just maintain balance over

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<v Speaker 2>December and then maintain balance over January than it is

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<v Speaker 2>to sort of blow out in December and then have

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<v Speaker 2>to restart over in January. So I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's more around that, just sort of thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about what's happened to you in previous years and if

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't feel great come January in previous years, and

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<v Speaker 2>now is the time that we can do something about it.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of other things you said. You were talking

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about timing, And I also find that people

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<v Speaker 1>are often overeating right through December and all of January

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<v Speaker 1>and write it off as Christmas, when really Christmas is

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<v Speaker 1>a day or two. So really isolating those special occasions

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<v Speaker 1>and specifically special occasions in which to eat more indulgent

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<v Speaker 1>foods I think is quite powerful. And then remember once

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<v Speaker 1>you get to Boxing Day or the twenty seventh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>okay to go back to regular or even lighter eating

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<v Speaker 1>as a way to compensate for that over consumption. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know that sometimes there's a bit of resistance around

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<v Speaker 1>promoting restrictive diets or buffering the effect of calories. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think look, as human beings, we accept that at

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<v Speaker 1>times we will eat too much. I think it's reasonable

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<v Speaker 1>to expect the times we might eat lightly. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that makes perfect sense. If you've had some really

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<v Speaker 1>heavy meals with desserts and treats and cheese platters and

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<v Speaker 1>a whole array of extras you wouldn't normally have for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes sense that you would then have a day

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<v Speaker 1>or two with light salads and fresh summer fruit and

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<v Speaker 1>some light seafood to buffer it out. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>can't just keep eating and eating and eating. And the

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<v Speaker 1>other key thing I observe with my clients is that

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<v Speaker 1>when I have a holiday period, I am excited because

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm going to have more time to exercise,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas my clients are like, oh, who, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to go and do exercise. So I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the days off as as an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>move more rather than an excuse to do less. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it crucial. And it doesn't have to be flogging yourself

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<v Speaker 1>at the gym. It can be a beach extra beach

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<v Speaker 1>walks or backyard cricket or that. It's definitely no excuse

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<v Speaker 1>really to not be at least getting your steps in

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<v Speaker 1>and it will be better for your digestion, it will

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<v Speaker 1>be better for your sleep if you just still get

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<v Speaker 1>those steps up and make the most of the longer days.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's a really important part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And making the most of time with friends and family,

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<v Speaker 1>or you might want time away from friends and family

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<v Speaker 1>and use it is an excuse to go and walk.

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<v Speaker 1>So definitely it's not an excuse to do less. If anything,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say it's time to do more.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, involve the whole family. If

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<v Speaker 2>they're not driving you insane by twenty fifth December, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>go on, go on some hikes with the family, Go

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<v Speaker 2>explore your local area, go find a new park, or

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<v Speaker 2>if the kids want to go play at the park,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no reason you can't do a park workout while

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<v Speaker 2>they're there, or if they want to go on that

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<v Speaker 2>ride their bikes out at the local I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>when well kids, Mom used to take us down to

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<v Speaker 2>the supermarket once it had closed, because you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>had the speed humps and we'd like ride over them

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<v Speaker 2>with their bikes. It was so fun when we were kids.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you can do your workout, or you can

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<v Speaker 2>do some extra walking, extra steps around there while the

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<v Speaker 2>kids are on their skateboards or their bikes. So really

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<v Speaker 2>use it as a time that the whole family can

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<v Speaker 2>get active. You know, the kids are stopping school soon

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<v Speaker 2>or you know once this podcasts as long as the

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<v Speaker 2>kids have stopped school, so you know they're generally moving less.

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<v Speaker 2>So instead of letting them spend hours in front of

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<v Speaker 2>the TV or screens all that sort of thing, get

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<v Speaker 2>them out into the fresh air and use it as

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<v Speaker 2>a way that the whole family can get active and,

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<v Speaker 2>as Susie said, be a little bit more active, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's definitely the time of year that we want to

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<v Speaker 2>start listening to our bodies and letting go of the rules.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have to eat breakfast just because we wake up.

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<v Speaker 2>If we wake up and we're not feeling hungry, honor

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<v Speaker 2>that hunger, and you don't have to eat anything until

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<v Speaker 2>you do feel hungry. But if you wake up and

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<v Speaker 2>you're feeling really hungry, well then that's great. You can

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<v Speaker 2>eat breakfast as well. I think we have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of too many sort of like rules or structure for

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<v Speaker 2>sort of fifty percent of people, and the other fifty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of people don't have enough structure within their day

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<v Speaker 2>and they're too flexible and they're completely off track. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think having that little bit of structure but not

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<v Speaker 2>being too rigid with diet rules and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>This timing year, it's nice to find a healthy balance.

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<v Speaker 2>So really try to tune in, listen to your body,

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<v Speaker 2>and get the whole family involved in extra movement and

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<v Speaker 2>activity at this time of the year. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>is some really wonderful health focus behaviors.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the other tip that I would give

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<v Speaker 1>is you've got to get the leftovers out of the house. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you have lashings of pudding and cakes and chocolate,

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<v Speaker 1>ginger world houses keep eating. So I try and get

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<v Speaker 1>it out of the house as quickly as possible, give

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<v Speaker 1>it away, let people take it to work where you

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<v Speaker 1>can gift it. Because if it is there, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest predictor of food consumption, it's availability. So if it's

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<v Speaker 1>in the house and you open the fridge and you

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<v Speaker 1>see it, you'll keep eating it. So even freeze things

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<v Speaker 1>if you can, so you've got meals for later. But

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<v Speaker 1>definitely those more indulgent foods that really are special occasion

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<v Speaker 1>foods and not foods we can eat every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>The best to get it out of the house because

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise you'll still be overeating. Come gendery, and that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the extra kilos come from. It's not from the one

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<v Speaker 1>off meal on Christmas Day. It's the overeating that occurs

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<v Speaker 1>over several weeks. So that's another big tip. Give it away,

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<v Speaker 1>leave it at people's houses, don't take it home, get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of it because ultimately there's probably calories that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't need or even really want, but we will eat

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<v Speaker 1>what's readily available.

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<v Speaker 2>And my last tip, Susie and my family is absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>the worst for this. It's buying too much food at

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<v Speaker 2>this time of year. Like my mom puts out, like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my goodness, like the cheese platters and that black

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<v Speaker 2>bless her, she's a sweetheart. The cheese platters and the

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<v Speaker 2>fresh food and the pretzels and their puddings and all

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<v Speaker 2>the homemade biscuits, and that's like the pre lunch meal.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we've done breakfast with Davis family, lunch with

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<v Speaker 2>my family. We've got dinner with David's family, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like Mom does like a six course meal just for lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Mom, don't buy all that stuff. And as

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<v Speaker 2>you go through Colls or wherever you do your supermarket shopping,

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<v Speaker 2>you look into people's trolleys and they're just absolutely loaded.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're just buying too much food at this time

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<v Speaker 2>of year. So think about food wastage as well, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm on board with this because my family does

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<v Speaker 2>it not so great at all. We always have too

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<v Speaker 2>much food, so we don't need that much food as

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<v Speaker 2>adultsal is what we think. We like, nobody is going to,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope, go hungry at Christmas time. So maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're thinking, oh, buy this just in case, or

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<v Speaker 2>I buy this treat just in case, probably not need it.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're someone that really struggles to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of the leftovers and that sort of thing after Christmas,

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<v Speaker 2>I think buying less is a great strategy to begin

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<v Speaker 2>with because people, especially if you're having guests over rarely

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<v Speaker 2>people come empty handed. You'll end up with so much

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<v Speaker 2>more food than just what you buy. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>not buying too much is a great strategy to begin with,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm on board with you guys. This year, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to try and minimize some food waste from my family,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'll be That'll be a goal that I'm sort

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<v Speaker 2>of setting for my family this year is not buying

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<v Speaker 2>more than we actually need.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I say, I saw a photo of your mum.

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<v Speaker 1>She is tiny. She is a tiny human.

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<v Speaker 2>What does she weigh?

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<v Speaker 1>Like forty kilos?

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<v Speaker 2>She maybe forty five forty six. I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 2>I had her on sausage in for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Does she eat it? I bet she doesn't eat all

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<v Speaker 1>that food. No, no, no, no, she's a feeder. Probably not

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<v Speaker 1>eat it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, she's a feeder. She's definitely her Her love

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<v Speaker 2>language is food. She's a feeder.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't eat very much.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen her. She's tiny. She's Malaysian, so she's, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>naturally quite short and quite small. She's very more but yeah, blessed.

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<v Speaker 2>She's all about the food. But she's busy preparing everything exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't so exactly. That's interesting to watch it Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I always get clients to observe others eating

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<v Speaker 1>behavior because there'll be ones you prepare all the food,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't eat it, So you got to be onto.

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<v Speaker 2>Those and the ones that don't prepare anybod eat at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly wonderful. So a topic, Susie that's come up a

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<v Speaker 2>few times via Instagram messages is in relation to meal

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<v Speaker 2>replacement checks, and I know that I myself have used

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<v Speaker 2>them in the past, particularly when I was working at

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital for a lot of patients are pre surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of our surgeons actually specifically requested a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of our patients go on to very low calorie diets

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<v Speaker 2>using meal replacements before surgery. It is particularly elective type procedures.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's sort of the only area I really used

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<v Speaker 2>them in my bass. I don't really use them in

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<v Speaker 2>my clinic these days, but I know you had a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of an interesting case study with a client using

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<v Speaker 2>some meal replacements, didn't you, Susie.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, and I thought we have had a few

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<v Speaker 1>questions about them now. A meal replacement shake is a

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<v Speaker 1>scientifically formulated product that has a macronutrient sorry micronutrient or

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<v Speaker 1>vitamin and mineral profile of a meal for significantly fewer calories.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're usually about two hundred calories, very controlled amount

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<v Speaker 1>generally of carbohydrate and protein formulated to tick the box

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<v Speaker 1>and a number of those nutrients. So meal replacements can

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<v Speaker 1>be marketed as an entire Mirr replacement, low calorie diet,

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<v Speaker 1>which may be used before surgery as you described, where

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<v Speaker 1>people replace three meals a day with a bar, a

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<v Speaker 1>soup or a shake and then a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>salad or vegetables. Or you also see them used as

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<v Speaker 1>a single meal replacement, perhaps as a breakfast or a dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>as a low calorie option. Now it should be said

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<v Speaker 1>lely and these are a different from protein shakes. So

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<v Speaker 1>protein shake may just have the nutrient protein in them

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<v Speaker 1>and then you consume them with water or milk, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>a formulated meal replacement will have a range of those

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<v Speaker 1>different nutrients in it. They're quite different things, and so

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<v Speaker 1>a protein shake is not a meal replacement, but a

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<v Speaker 1>Mirr replacement could be considered a protein shake. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>the difference. So I have used them, as have you

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<v Speaker 1>with surgeons pre surgery, to reduce the size of the liver.

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<v Speaker 1>If they are followed, they can induce keytoe, which is

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<v Speaker 1>fat burning because the low calorie and low carbohydrate load

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<v Speaker 1>induces ketosis in which you can lose weight relatively quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>and as such they can be used as a prescription

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<v Speaker 1>for people who have significant amounts of weight to lose

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<v Speaker 1>weight quickly, and indeed there's a growing evidence space to

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<v Speaker 1>show they're quite powerful and helping to reverse type two

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<v Speaker 1>diabetes if they can be followed. The issue for me,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, with me replacement, is that it's quite a

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<v Speaker 1>diet to be following. You know, I generally, as a

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<v Speaker 1>dietian try and encourage my clients to eat whole foods

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<v Speaker 1>and fresh, natural food and I would always much prefer

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<v Speaker 1>them to be eating as opposed to swapping a meal

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<v Speaker 1>fresh shake. But I do use shakes, and if I

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<v Speaker 1>have a client who wants quick weight loss or has say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it is one hundred and fifty kilos and

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<v Speaker 1>needs to lose twenty or thirty kilos very quickly, or

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<v Speaker 1>wants to I will absolutely use them if they're open

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<v Speaker 1>to it, or they may like it and have had

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<v Speaker 1>great success in the past. And of course then there's

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<v Speaker 1>always an art to returning to a normal diet and

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<v Speaker 1>grading up so you don't instantly regain that weight. But

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<v Speaker 1>the client case study that I thought was quite relevant

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<v Speaker 1>was I've had a female client who has severe insulin resistance,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had lost using a general calorie controlled macro

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<v Speaker 1>nutriment balance plan a good twenty I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>at least twenty kilos, and then she had quite a

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<v Speaker 1>significant weight plateau, so she really was struggling. She'd hurt

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<v Speaker 1>her ankle so was unable to do a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>structured activity. She was also a teacher, so I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing marking and spending a lot of time sitting working

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<v Speaker 1>at home, and she said to me, look, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to I'm going to do mirror replacements for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks just to get kick off the weight loss again.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she has been doing two mirror replacements a

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<v Speaker 1>day and then one small meal, so still coming in

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<v Speaker 1>about eight hundred two one thousand calories while she's so inactive,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know she's continued now to lose another close

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<v Speaker 1>to ten kilos just by having losing a kilo a

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<v Speaker 1>week by this model. Now she I would say, Leanne

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<v Speaker 1>is an anomaly. Most people I find have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of difficulty following that kind of strict regime for any

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<v Speaker 1>extended period of time. And hence my reluctance to commend

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<v Speaker 1>or suggest it because I really like to try programs

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<v Speaker 1>that people can sustain long term. But for that client,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the right choice, and she asked about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've just guided the process, and then our job

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<v Speaker 1>will be to guide her to get her to her

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<v Speaker 1>goal weight, but then make sure she doesn't regain the

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<v Speaker 1>weight once she stops using the MI replacement shakes. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they are absolutely a viable option, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do use them, and I use them in both of

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<v Speaker 1>those ways, either as a single MI replacement as a buffer,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps part of a fast stay if someone was doing

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<v Speaker 1>a five hundred calorie diet once or twice a week,

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<v Speaker 1>as a convenient meal on the go for busy people

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<v Speaker 1>and in those extreme cases, or perhaps for people with

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<v Speaker 1>very high risk of type two diabetes. There is an

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<v Speaker 1>evidence space to support their use as a total mirror

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<v Speaker 1>replacement program. What I would say is, if you are

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<v Speaker 1>starting the new year, and we will indeed spend a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time on New Year's diets in January when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back on the nutrition couch, if you do

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<v Speaker 1>think that you would like to try a shape program

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<v Speaker 1>or incorporate shakes as part of your weight control plan

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward. You will get much better results in investing

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a diety to guide you through the process because

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<v Speaker 1>there is a process to it, particularly if you do

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<v Speaker 1>full meal replacement for a period and then grade up

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<v Speaker 1>to regular eating, and you will get much better results

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<v Speaker 1>working with a dietitian to guide that than if you

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<v Speaker 1>do it on your own, because there's an art to it,

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<v Speaker 1>as is the art of dietetics. And as I said

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<v Speaker 1>with my client, I believe one of the reasons she's

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<v Speaker 1>had such success is that we've worked closely together to

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<v Speaker 1>manage hunger and strategy around that with the goal of

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<v Speaker 1>not allowing that weight to be regained long term. So

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<v Speaker 1>that would be my best advice. Any diet, including meal

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<v Speaker 1>replacement or VLCD, will work, but the art to it

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<v Speaker 1>is making sure that you adjust to normal eating again

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<v Speaker 1>the right way to basically not undo all of your

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<v Speaker 1>hard work. So that's probably my take home message. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they're a viable option for the right person, but you

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<v Speaker 1>will get better results if you do it under supervision.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the key message is really the right person,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't really use them for my clients because

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<v Speaker 2>they're just not feeling like you really have to be

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<v Speaker 2>so so motivated, you know, for pre surgery clients at

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital, they were because the surgeons were basically like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not getting you knee replacement or you're not getting

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<v Speaker 2>your you know, your bariotric surgery unless you actually do

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<v Speaker 2>this probably for two four weeks, we'll just keep bumping

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<v Speaker 2>your surgery. So their motivation levels were really really high.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like a lot of people, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the general sort of public, will use them just

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<v Speaker 2>to sort of replace one meal versus using the full

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<v Speaker 2>two to three shakes a day as part of the

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<v Speaker 2>VSD program. So I really do think that if you

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<v Speaker 2>are going to use them, as Susie said, make sure

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing it in combination with the dietition because that

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<v Speaker 2>such low calorie, like you're not just losing fat stores,

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<v Speaker 2>you're also losing your muscle mass as well, so metabolically

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<v Speaker 2>you're just going to you're not going to be great

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<v Speaker 2>long term, and it's very very easy for that weight

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<v Speaker 2>to come straight back on again the minute you return

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<v Speaker 2>to a normal eating Your calories have to be slowly

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<v Speaker 2>increased over time, and as you start to introduce more

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<v Speaker 2>carbohydrate favorite gram of carbohydrate, you eat, your body stores

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<v Speaker 2>two to three grams of essentially water or fluid, so

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<v Speaker 2>those scale is going to increase, but it might not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily be fat gain as you start to reintroduce some

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<v Speaker 2>of the carbohydrates into the diet as well. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think the biggest thing is to make sure those shakes

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<v Speaker 2>are nutritionally complete. So, as Susie said, it's not just

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<v Speaker 2>a protein shake. It's not just a random product you

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<v Speaker 2>find offline that has a bit of greens powder mixed

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<v Speaker 2>into it in a bit of protein. It needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be nutritionally complete, have all of our micronutrients plus our

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<v Speaker 2>macro nutrients. So really on the box of the product,

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<v Speaker 2>and probably the two biggest ones that come to mind,

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<v Speaker 2>Susie are optifast and opti slim. I think Tony Ferguson

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<v Speaker 2>does another one as well. Those three from memory are

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<v Speaker 2>all nutritionally complete. A lot of the other brands online

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<v Speaker 2>or what influences promote and that sort of thing, are

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<v Speaker 2>more just either protein shakes or quote unquote mer replacements,

0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.359
<v Speaker 2>but they're not actually nutritionally complete, so they're lacking in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of our micro nutrients as well. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think just really as you said, Zuzie, I think the

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<v Speaker 2>easiest option is just to go and see a dietitian

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<v Speaker 2>or really just to do your homework and do your

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<v Speaker 2>research and make sure that you're just at least having

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<v Speaker 2>some baseline blood tests with you or with your doctor

0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:46.040
<v Speaker 2>as well. And anyone thinking about commencing a full VLCD program,

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<v Speaker 2>a very low calorie diet program should absolutely one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent without a doubt, either be working with a dietician

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<v Speaker 2>or with your GP because as Zusi said, it can

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<v Speaker 2>injuice cotosis, and there are a few medical conditions that

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<v Speaker 2>we would be sort of worried about as well. And

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<v Speaker 2>you always used to always recommend baseline bloods at the

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<v Speaker 2>hospital before anybody even started a VLCD program as well,

0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:09.359
<v Speaker 2>and watching things like trago side levels and liver and

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've consulted this year for the Biosome brand, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a nutritionally complete VLCD sold it community pharmacy, So that's

0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.600
<v Speaker 1>another brand that have got some good resources attached to

0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:22.919
<v Speaker 1>it and some great locale recipes that I designed. But

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing I would say, as a final note

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<v Speaker 1>on mirror placement, if the thought of shakes makes you

0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.960
<v Speaker 1>feel sick, it's not for you or hungry. It's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of person who finds that it works in

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<v Speaker 1>with their lifestyle and it suits them because it's easy

0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:38.240
<v Speaker 1>and not That's what my client actually had said. She

0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.000
<v Speaker 1>just wanted something easy to do. She didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>have to think about it for a while. And that

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<v Speaker 1>is the right person. But if the whole thought of

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<v Speaker 1>shakes is already playing with your mind, it's not for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're absolutely right. It's for a very specific type

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<v Speaker 1>of person. It can be effective for the right client,

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<v Speaker 1>but you've got to match the diet to the person

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the key always.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you have to be strong mentally as well,

0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:57.919
<v Speaker 2>because if you're going to do it for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Monday to Friday, then you're going to cheat and blow

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<v Speaker 2>out all weekend. You're just going to undo all of

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<v Speaker 2>your hard work because the thing with katosis is that

0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:07.199
<v Speaker 2>you need to drop those carbohydrates right right down, and

0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:09.520
<v Speaker 2>that can take three, four, five days to actually achieve

0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:11.840
<v Speaker 2>that level of katosis, even to get your body into that.

0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:13.359
<v Speaker 2>If you're going to do it for five days, then

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<v Speaker 2>cheat for the weekend or eat some bread and you know,

0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:17.400
<v Speaker 2>go out for pizza, in a couple of beers. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not worth it, like you're just undoing all of your

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<v Speaker 2>hard work. So unless you can be consistent with it,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say for an absolute minimum of two weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>if not probably four to eight weeks to at least

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<v Speaker 2>get some proper results. If you can't be consistent for

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<v Speaker 2>that long and mere replacements are not for you, They're

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<v Speaker 2>just not going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really good point. You do want to do

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<v Speaker 1>it in entirety for a period to get the results,

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<v Speaker 1>and generally I would only be recommending them for people

0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:40.320
<v Speaker 1>who had significant amounts of weight to lose. I'm talking

0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:42.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty thirty kilos. I'm definitely not talking people with five

0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:46.120
<v Speaker 1>or even ten kilos. There's better options for you, would

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<v Speaker 1>be what I the message I would share. All right, Well,

0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:54.479
<v Speaker 1>moving on to a different kind of drink. Chances are

0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you have been drinking a little bit more than usual lately,

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<v Speaker 1>or you may be one of the growing number of

0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Stadans who are now using not to drink. And the

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<v Speaker 1>good news for those people is there's a whole range

0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:06.879
<v Speaker 1>of growing low and zero alcohol wines and beers availably.

0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:09.240
<v Speaker 1>And I went to Dan Murphy's not Long ago to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot a trolley from my Instagram, and I couldn't believe

0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:14.720
<v Speaker 1>the growth in this area of low alcohol or zero

0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:17.320
<v Speaker 1>alcohol wines. Now I know that you've been indulging a

0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit in these zero alcohol wines. We tried them

0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:23.320
<v Speaker 1>all soosi this year, being with child, and so you

0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 1>have brought this brand to share with us today, which

0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:29.240
<v Speaker 1>is called plus and minis. Plus and minus. I think

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<v Speaker 1>plus and I'm just reading it. I can't read my

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<v Speaker 1>own script. Plus and minis. I thought this extra you

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<v Speaker 1>in there? Oh, plus and minus. Goodness, it's late in

0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:41.119
<v Speaker 1>the year. Plus and minus. Then they've got a different

0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:42.800
<v Speaker 1>This is a range. I've picked the Pino Guzzio, but

0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:44.640
<v Speaker 1>they've got a whole different lot, don't they? Which ones?

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<v Speaker 2>If you tried? So I've done the Pino Guzia, I've

0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.399
<v Speaker 2>done the quote unquote fake Champagne whatever you can't call

0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:52.320
<v Speaker 2>it Champagne, the Bubble, the bubble variety, and also the

0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Rose and definitely the Pino Guzia or the sparkling variety

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 2>will call it are definitely two of my favorites. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've tried a lot of different brands. Couple of companies

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<v Speaker 2>have sent me a few different products. I've tried the

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:05.640
<v Speaker 2>zero alcohol beers, the wines. I can't go near the reds.

0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:08.159
<v Speaker 2>I love a glass of good quality red wine, but

0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:11.040
<v Speaker 2>the zero alcohol reds, they just don't cut it. Susie,

0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:13.120
<v Speaker 2>I really do think the sparklings are the better options,

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.680
<v Speaker 2>but some of them are just so sweet they almost

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:17.720
<v Speaker 2>taste like cordial and a lot of there's a few

0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:21.399
<v Speaker 2>like you know, zero calorie fake gin mixes and that

0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 2>sort of thing, and I just find that they're so

0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:25.879
<v Speaker 2>overwhelming from a sugar and a sweetness perspective. To me,

0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 2>it tastes like I'm just drinking a cup of cordial,

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:29.679
<v Speaker 2>and I'd actually just rather the drink water. So this

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 2>plus and minus brand is one of my favorites. One

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:34.359
<v Speaker 2>of my lovely Instagram followers sent it to me and

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 2>she said, I've been drinking this while pregnant. Give it

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<v Speaker 2>a go. It's one of the better brands, and I

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.480
<v Speaker 2>think it's probably you know, I've tried ten plus different

0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:43.120
<v Speaker 2>brands and varieties and this is definitely one of my favorites.

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:46.000
<v Speaker 2>So it is very low calorie. So even if you're

0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:47.639
<v Speaker 2>not pregnant, it's a great option if you want to

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 2>feel like you're having a social drink with you know,

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.360
<v Speaker 2>your friends or your family, but it's not water, for example.

0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 2>So this one, it comes in a standard one bottle,

0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 2>so it's seven to fifty meals. Calories per one hundred

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:01.000
<v Speaker 2>mills is twenty four. So if you were to drink

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 2>that entire bottle of zero alcohol wine or all sparking,

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 2>it's only about one hundred and eighty calories. So I

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:08.440
<v Speaker 2>did that. I went to a dinner party and I

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 2>probably had maybe three quarters of the bottle, just because

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:12.959
<v Speaker 2>you know, everyone else was having quite a lot of

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:15.880
<v Speaker 2>alcohol and I was sort of obviously the designated driver

0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:17.639
<v Speaker 2>that day home. So I was sitting there with my

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, fake sparkling wine and it was all good

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:22.199
<v Speaker 2>and it was quite enjoyable. I felt like I was

0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:24.480
<v Speaker 2>able to, you know, partake in the social aspect of

0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 2>at all, but only you know, probably one hundred and

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:28.159
<v Speaker 2>fifty calories all up, and I had close to the

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<v Speaker 2>whole bottle versus if I had drunk a whole bottle

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 2>of champagne, Susie, that's close to six hundred calories, and

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 2>a whole bottle of champagne or a whole bottle of

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:36.919
<v Speaker 2>wine can easily be upwards of six hundred calories, so

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a great lower calorie option. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>great option health wise as well, because we know too

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 2>much alcohol is just not great for our health. And

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 2>it's quite affordable, I think Dan Murphy's I bought a

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:48.399
<v Speaker 2>couple when they were on sale, and I think they

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:50.879
<v Speaker 2>were only about eleven dollars or something, and maybe full price,

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 2>perhaps maybe fifteen to twenty. So I mean it is,

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, probably quite expensive because it's not actually wine,

0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 2>but when they were on sale, actually thought it was

0:24:58.600 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 2>quite a good option, sort of ten eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I found this really interesting because there's a

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:06.160
<v Speaker 1>common misconception that when we drink wine, or particularly sweet wine,

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that it's got sugar in it, which is actually not

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 1>true because the carbohydrates and the sugars have been fermented

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:14.439
<v Speaker 1>to make the alcohol, so they actually don't contain sugar,

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 1>so the calories are coming from the alcohol itself, not

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 1>actually sugar. But this in this pinnagotio, it does have

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>not a lot, like you know, three point nine grams

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:24.640
<v Speaker 1>of sugars per hundred, so like you described, it's got

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 1>about twenty eight grams of sugars in the entire bottle

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 1>if you were to polish that off. But that is

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>significantly more than you are getting a little bit of

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:35.360
<v Speaker 1>sugar from this product, whereas when I've seen a few

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 1>of the zero alcohol spirits in the cans, they're actually

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>so low there's nothing really much in them other than

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 1>a bit of flavor to the water, Whereas you do

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>get a little bit from this. But like you described,

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:46.679
<v Speaker 1>if you're not drinking and you just want some flavor

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and it tastes good, it's probably sugar is well spent.

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 1>But I thought that was worth noting that it's a

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 1>misconception that we actually get sugar from alcohol. It's just

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the alcohol that's giving us calories. And when we're drinking,

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.919
<v Speaker 1>the liver is so busy actually processing the alcohol content

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:01.880
<v Speaker 1>that we tend to store the food that we eat

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:03.439
<v Speaker 1>with it. So if we had a salad and a

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 1>bottle of wine, we'd be fine, But because we have

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:08.399
<v Speaker 1>wedges and fried food, that tends to be stored. So

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>that's a little bit of point of confusion around alcohol.

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:13.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so there is a little bit of sweetness

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 1>in that, which perhaps is why it tastes half decent

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 1>compared to the other ones exactly.

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:18.639
<v Speaker 2>This is probably one of the better tasty ones or

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.919
<v Speaker 2>fairly similar to win or champagne that I've found, compared

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 2>to a lot of the other As you said, zero

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 2>alcohol gins in the cans. I just feel like I'm

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 2>just drinking soda water. I'm like, what's the point. I'd

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 2>rather just make my own soda water. It's a bit

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:31.199
<v Speaker 2>of flavoring in it. So this is definitely from what

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:32.680
<v Speaker 2>I found a closer match.

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right about the price though, because I've got

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 1>a few friends who don't drink and so they like

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>non alcoholic beer. But non alcoholic beer is not inexpensive.

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like six or eight bucks. Still, like you just

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>have to spend on these things. It's a bit cheeky,

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, But I mean I'm happy to spend to,

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, drink something other than water for the last

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 2>nine months, So for me, you know, I'm happy to

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 2>spend a little bit more just to sort of feel

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 2>like I'm not just the only one drinking water at

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 2>every single dinner party that I go to. For me,

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 2>it's an expense, but I know for a lot of people,

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 2>they're just happy to drink water. So I think, Marolo

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:05.920
<v Speaker 2>the story, you do you, but this is a great

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 2>option if you want something that vaguely resembles wine or

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 2>sparkling paid and doesn't cost you an arm and a

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.959
<v Speaker 2>leg to get. And I think is also an Aussie

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 2>brand as well, which is nice.

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Really and through to say that since her baby's about

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 1>to be bored, she won't be drinking any of these

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>every again. She's back on the full strength.

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:27.160
<v Speaker 2>So way using my breastfeeding app to know how many

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm allowed, alrighty. And that brings us to our final

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.919
<v Speaker 2>segment of the day, which I think is really quite

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 2>a great segment. So it's a listener question around this

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 2>time of year but also around social eating. So one

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 2>of our listeners reached out to us and said, how

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 2>do we this time of year say no to food

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:48.679
<v Speaker 2>from family and friends without being rude or without being judged?

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 2>And I think this is a big one, Susie, because

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 2>and particularly I've had a lot of clients that have

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 2>diagnosed celiac dicies. So people will go out of their

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 2>way to make something like they're like I made this

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 2>gooden free cake just for you, like you have to

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 2>have some. I went out of my way to make

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 2>it for you, and so you do you feel quite guilty,

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.199
<v Speaker 2>and you do feel quite rude saying no to it.

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 2>But it is difficult as well. When I'm trying to

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 2>teach my clients to honor their hunger, they just have

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 2>this enormous meal. They're like, I don't actually need a

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 2>piece of cake, like or can I just have a

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 2>really small slillet and then they cut them this enormous

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 2>chunk be cause I, like I made it for you.

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:19.359
<v Speaker 2>You have to eat like a quarter of the cake.

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:21.199
<v Speaker 2>So it is a it is a hard thing to

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 2>do at this time of year, and I know a

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:24.640
<v Speaker 2>lot of other people feel quite a lot of pressure,

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 2>perhaps from in laws, perhaps from family friends, perhaps from

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<v Speaker 2>work colleagues to you know, go out and actually drink

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>or eat the three course meal or you know, have

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 2>the buffet style meals when just they'd be quite happy

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 2>with a smaller type meal. So what are your tips

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<v Speaker 2>around this time of year and saying no without offending

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 2>family and friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Susie, Oh, it's so difficult because I know when we

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>this is this was a great question, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>for anyone who comes from a European family, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not possible to say no a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the time for.

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<v Speaker 2>Like me and Asian family, because when.

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking about food at the office, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's much easier to teach colleagues that you're

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<v Speaker 1>actually going to always say no when they're serving cake,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not taken with such offenses in the case

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>of the family, So this is not an evidence based

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>way of managing it. But what I would say is

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<v Speaker 1>accept it and then taste it, but just don't eat it,

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>because very rarely do people really make sure you've eaten

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>it if you think about it, So they make sure

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>it's there and they've served you, and then when they

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>go off, they don't often check again, so they're not

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>actually going to force it down your throat. So you're

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 1>probably going to save yourself a lot of grief just

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<v Speaker 1>by accepting it and either you know, giving it to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else or putting it on someone else's plate, or

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 1>have a taste and put it back, so not put

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>it back, but put it back on the table, or

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, when if I'm with people, I'll often put

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 1>it on my husband's plate, you know, and he'll end

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>up eating it, which isn't good for him really, But

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's tricks, I think, but I think actually

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 1>tackling it front on with family knowing European families, it's

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 1>just all Asian families, it's just not even going to

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<v Speaker 1>be possible. So yeah, I think sometimes accept and then

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 1>get rid of as her little backdoor strategy. But I

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's got no evidence space. As I said,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just my what I find works personally.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there are over space strategies in this case.

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it's just it's what works. So I generally say,

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 2>what's my clients, make your plan known upfront, so when

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 2>you arrive it's easy to say, Hi, Susie, thank you

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 2>so much for having me at your dinner party. Just

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 2>let you know I'm not going to be drinking today.

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 2>It's much easier to make your plans known upfront when

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 2>you arrived, versus when they're pouring the wine at the

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 2>dinner table and you go, oh, no, no, no, for me,

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 2>They're going to go, oh, just have a little bit,

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Just have a little bit. But if you make your

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 2>plans known upfront, I promise it'll be one hundred times

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 2>easier then when they're pouring the one at the dinner table.

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 2>All you have to say is no, no, Remember I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned when I got here, I'm not going to drink.

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 2>It's just they've had time to process that. Or even

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<v Speaker 2>with the desserts, just letting you know. I'm so excited

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Susie that you're having me at your dinner party today.

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I am just doing a little bit of juggling in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of my health and nutrition. So I'm so excited

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 2>to have the dinner party with you today, but I

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.239
<v Speaker 2>won't be having any dessert. I hope that's okay. So

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I think making your plans known upfront is a strategy

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 2>that I always use with my clients. Or the other

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 2>one is just again honoring your hunger and just saying,

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry, I'm really fool that meal. It was

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:02.959
<v Speaker 2>so delicious, I'm so full. Would it be okay if

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I took some home with me? And that way you're

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>not offending anyone. You're not saying I'm not having any,

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 2>But it's like, can I just take some home with me?

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Then you can regift it to a colleague or a

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 2>neighbor or the babysitter or whatever it might be. All

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 2>the other option is thank you that's so sweet of you.

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh you made that just me. That's so kind of you.

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll just have a little nibble as I'm really satisfied.

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 2>The mill you created was so delicious. I'll just have

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 2>a little nibble and I'll take the rest home with me.

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Is that okay? And again, no one can force food

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 2>on you. If you're hungry like that, you know it's easy.

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 2>If you're going to say, oh, I'm sorry, I'm darting,

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 2>they'll be like, no, no, have some, have some. But

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 2>if you go at it from it, I'm really full,

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to honor my hunger perspective. I think people

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>will listen to that a lot more than oh, I'm

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 2>trying to be healthy. I think people has an easier

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 2>time trying to self sabotage you if you make it

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 2>about health or weight, loss of calories. But I always

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 2>find that if you say no, I'm actually really full,

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't possibly fit it in. Can I take it

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 2>home with me? They respond a lot better to that.

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 2>There my tips and.

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<v Speaker 1>A little strategy I will often give clients when they're

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>going for weeks away with groups of people, or even

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>at family functions where they may have had a history

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>of overeating or being served a lot of food. I say, look,

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I want you to look at it as a bit

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>of an experiment, and I want you to observe the

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 1>difference in eating behavior, because there'll be people there who

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>shove everything that you serve to them or crosses their

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>path in their face without even noticing mindlessly, and there'll

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 1>be people who kind of pick around it. They have

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 1>a taste, they don't need a whole lot, And that's

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>an interesting observation of people and when large amounts of

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>food is available. And so what we want to be

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>able to do is keep very mindful about it, and

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>even if you accept it or are forced to accept it,

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 1>whichever the circumstance, not have to eat it just because

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 1>it's in front of us, and get very good at

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of tasting a little bit, putting it down, having

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>a little pick. Can you be surprised just that process

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>of slowing down the eating and being mindful can reduce

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>calorie intake bay up to thirty percent because you're not

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:51.959
<v Speaker 1>only registered that you don't even want it, you register

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>that it doesn't taste as good as you thought that

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it might. You might register that you're really quite full,

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>because you've just had a massive meal and what you're

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>getting pleasure from is the food mouthful or two. You

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>don't need to eat the whole cake just because it's there.

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>That there's certainly programming, behavioral programming where people will just

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>keep eating just because it's in front of them. So

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 1>another trick is to when it's there and you've had enough,

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>push it away or move it to the side so

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>that it actually comes away from your eye sight, just

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>so you don't get into that habit of mindlessly having it.

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I like the idea of making the intention known early

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>in the piece, but I think I'm just thinking of

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>my Italian family. If I said, if I said to Nona,

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to be eating today, that wouldn't just

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>go out. That wouldn't be happening. So you're better to

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 1>take it and hope she doesn't notice that you didn't

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>need it all later.

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 2>I like that I do pushing it onto Hubby's plate,

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 2>And if you don't have a hobby to push it onto,

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 2>maybe just say to your friend, oh, that looks delicious,

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 2>would you like to share someone really really full? And

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 2>then I do that quite often with girlfriends out at dinner,

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh, I really want dessert. I'm like, they're like, you,

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 2>are you going to get some dessert with me? I'm

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 2>like no, I'm so full, But how about we share

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 2>something and honestly, SUSI, the dessert comes out, I might

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:54.959
<v Speaker 2>have two spoons of it and they have the other

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 2>ninety percent of it, and it's like we shared, but

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've only had a couple of spoons. I'm

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 2>really just tasting it versus is eating it. So I

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 2>think that's a really important concept and definitely something you

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 2>can do at family gatherings as well. Or you know,

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 2>if there's an uncle who really likes this food, have

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 2>a little taste and say hey, uncle, do you want this?

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Or just put it down on the table, and you know,

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 2>if everyone sort of walks away, no one's got to

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 2>know that it was you that kind of didn't eat it,

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 2>particularly if it's something that you taste and it's not

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 2>that good. Like, really save those Christmas treats, you know,

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 2>make those calories count and make it something that's actually

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.359
<v Speaker 2>delicious and that you love. If someone's trying to force

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 2>you'd eat something you don't actually like, I would push

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:29.719
<v Speaker 2>back quite hard on that and say no, that's not

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 2>really my thing, but I'll happily have some you know,

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 2>plum pudding later on or something like that.

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 1>And if you're single, that could be a way of

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>actually meeting someone. You could say, Hey, I've got this

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 1>this leftover dinner on my leftover. Oh, we're silly. It's

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 1>our last episode. Just humorous because Leanne brings us to

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the Nutrition Couch for an entire year. Well,

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 1>it's been a very big year. We started in May

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<v Speaker 1>and we've just been so grateful to you, our very

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 1>loyal listeners, for embracing the Nutrition Couch and being such

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>amazing support. And we are really excited about what the

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:04.399
<v Speaker 1>new year is going to bring. We've got a plan

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 1>for some very motivating and inspirational content as we move

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<v Speaker 1>into what dieticians called diet season, which is January twenty

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty two. And especially we would like Twish, Leanne and

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>David all the very best for the birth of their

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>baby girl, which may have happened or maybe very imminent.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, we can't wait to see those photographs.

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<v Speaker 1>So from me, Merry Christmas and a very happy New

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Year and healthy twenty twenty two on the way, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you everyone for your support. I have a wonderful

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 2>festive season and we'll catch you guys very soon in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two. Sounds crazy to say that Merry Christmas.