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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to another episode of Outspoken. Today, you're

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Speaker 1: joined by journalists Amy Sophie and Kate Torbert. Coming up

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Speaker 1: on the episode, the deadly instagrammable moment that's rocked the Internet,

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Speaker 1: the party trick that rekindled an A lister's relationship, and

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Speaker 1: the disturbing lengths one mass contestant has gone to for revenge.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us on. Sophie, we

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Speaker 1: want to get started off the show by I suppose

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Speaker 1: throwing you under the bus a bit, because Kate and

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Speaker 1: I have been paying you out because you did you

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Speaker 1: had a little acting experience thanks to our friend Ella. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we wouldn't really call it acting. I'd call it more

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Speaker 1: just standing in the background drinking a beer.

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Speaker 2: Did you actually drink a beer? Yes? I did. Oh

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Speaker 2: what did Brandon think?

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Speaker 1: Oh? He knew.

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Speaker 2: It was all part of acting.

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Speaker 1: So for those who don't know, SOA's boyfriend doesn't drink beer.

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Speaker 1: I you you haven't drunk for a number of years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was a lager as well, so it was particularly

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Speaker 1: awful to drink. But basically, our friend Ella, who's an

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Speaker 1: absolute legend. She is a singer and when she's back

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Speaker 1: in adelaide. She does a bit of part time acting

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Speaker 1: in some extra work, and she needed some people to

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Speaker 1: help out for this ad for Cooper's Beer. And I

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Speaker 1: didn't have too much on in the morning, so I thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: that'd be a bit of fun. And yeah, basically it

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Speaker 1: was everything I expected it to be. We rocked up

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Speaker 1: and Ella and I were sitting on this couch next

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Speaker 1: to this forty year old guy and he told us

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Speaker 1: how his manager had lined up the job for him,

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Speaker 1: and he was really upset when he heard it wasn't

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Speaker 1: a speaking gig, but they assured him it was still

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Speaker 1: a good role. And then you know, we get in

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Speaker 1: there and basically for an hour, the videographer guy is

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Speaker 1: just trying to place us and he places this guy

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Speaker 1: literally as far out of shot as he can. Did

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Speaker 1: he look like someone who'd be a star.

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Speaker 2: Or an extra? An extra?

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Speaker 1: And yeah, they kept referring to was old Tom, because

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Speaker 1: there were two Toms there, and I was like, old Tom,

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Speaker 1: could you move slightly more out of frame?

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Speaker 2: He was actually very lovely.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember when we used to it that cafe,

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Speaker 1: there was like a big Rachel and a little Rachel.

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Speaker 2: You never want to be the big dude, horahs and shine.

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Speaker 1: Getting into our first topic. Three people have died at

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Speaker 1: an influencer's twenty ninth birthday party in Moscow after an

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Speaker 1: instagrammable moment went wrong. The shocking incident has raised concerned

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Speaker 1: about the dangerous measures millennials were going to to get

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Speaker 1: noticed online. Amy, can you talk us through what unfolded? Well,

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Speaker 1: an influencer called e Katarina, who's a Russian influencer, as

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Speaker 1: you said, she was holding her twenty ninth birthday and

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Speaker 1: it seemed like it was just a typical influencer event

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Speaker 1: that was food and drinks, and a lot of people

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Speaker 1: were posting Insta stories at this event. And basically what's

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Speaker 1: happened is her husband decided as a surprise that he

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Speaker 1: would dump twenty five kilos of dry ice into the

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Speaker 1: pool because he wanted to create sort of you know,

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Speaker 1: that wistful sort of smoky effect. And so what sadly

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Speaker 1: has happened is three people, including the husband who decided

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Speaker 1: to put the dry ice in the pool, have died

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Speaker 1: as a consequence due to carbon dioxide poisoning. And also

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Speaker 1: I think there were some chemical burns as well associated

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Speaker 1: because a lot of the guests actually jumped into the

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Speaker 2: Well, there were reports.

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Speaker 1: That the influence that Ekaterina had actually died. She had

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Speaker 1: to come out on her Instagram to report that no,

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Speaker 1: she was all right, And she did this instistory just

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Speaker 1: before she found out her husband had actually been one

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Speaker 1: of the dead. Well, hang on, was it at the

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Speaker 1: party that she was doing the instagram? How she was

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Speaker 1: in intensive care? Hanging well, how did she not know

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Speaker 1: her husband had died because he was also taken to

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Speaker 1: intensive care as well, and obviously she was in a

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the.

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Speaker 1: Thing, the sort of disturbing thing with modern technology. Now

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Speaker 1: these events are just playing out online, so her followers

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Speaker 1: news that something terrible had happened. And you know, think

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Speaker 1: about it. In Australia, this could have been like Shiny Grimman.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine if Shiny Grimman's loved ones had died

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Speaker 1: it would have been absolutely huge news.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's so scary.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I found most contradictory was I

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Speaker 1: think this influencer is famous for kind of giving natural

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Speaker 1: health advice, and it's just weird that well she's a

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Speaker 1: former chemist. Yeah, wouldn't you think that you'd have knowledge

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Speaker 1: about dry ice? But that being said, like I've been

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Speaker 1: in a number of weddings where they've just put dry

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Speaker 1: ice out on, you know, on the dance floor. It

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Speaker 1: seems like it's something that people use. It not an

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Speaker 1: event not to jump into though. Yeah, but maybe people thought.

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Speaker 1: I mean, to be honest, I've had dry ice put

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Speaker 1: understand that it's incredible a heal, but I mean if

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Speaker 1: you're at a party and someone's like, oh, let's just

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Speaker 1: think that these people who are holding the party have

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Speaker 1: some sort of knowledge about it. Well, there is a

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Speaker 1: criminal investigation underway. I mean what I first thought when

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Speaker 2: Of dry ice?

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Speaker 1: Surely they have some kind of duty of care to

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Speaker 1: let people know that that is actually a dangerous use

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Speaker 1: of the eyes. I saw a video of the ice

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Speaker 1: being put into the pool. The two men were wearing

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Speaker 1: head to toe protective gear. Well like coronavirus year pretty much.

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Speaker 1: Is it kind of the case? I mean, we saw

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Speaker 1: it kind of with the Kobe Bryant helicopter crash when

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Speaker 1: like that this girl wanted it done, so it got done,

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Speaker 1: is very well known for doing science experiments on her YouTube,

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Speaker 1: so she does them with her children.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's kind of just what's so bizarre

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a big experiment just gone terribly wrong. Well,

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Speaker 1: was some sort of surprise. What part went wrong? Was

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Speaker 1: been so many different reports about what's actually happened, and

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Speaker 1: I've just watched the video on YouTube, which I'm actually

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Speaker 1: amount of influencers that were there, But what appears to

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Speaker 1: There's been so many different reports because some people were

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: In intensive care from my understanding, so hopefully it's no

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Speaker 1: just typing in dry ice and an influencer into YouTube,

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Speaker 1: a standard kind of prank, well not prank, but stunt

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Speaker 1: a stunt, but it's an Instagram but will moment to

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Speaker 1: attract attention. This week, there was another TikTok who almost died.

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Speaker 1: So his name is Jason Clark, and he was attempting

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Speaker 1: he went and did it again. But what obligation does

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Speaker 1: TikTok have to censor this type of content because it's

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Speaker 1: dangerous behavior just seems to get you noticed, like it

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Speaker 1: Well back to your point, K, do you both think

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Speaker 1: that TikTok does have an obligation to censor that kind

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of definitely do what's hard.

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Speaker 1: When the platform is based on viral content, lots of

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Speaker 1: different challenges, it's only going to promote people, which is

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Speaker 1: just so disturbing because so many young people now hold

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Speaker 1: all of their currency and being Insta famous, and if

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Speaker 1: they're just going to be encouraged to do it. Moving

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Speaker 1: on to my favorite segment of the week. It is

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Speaker 1: the peak and the pit of the social media week,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to start it off. My peak of

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Speaker 1: the social media week has to be discovering deep Hop.

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Speaker 2: Have you guys heard of this app?

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Speaker 1: I think yeah, a lot of people have used deep pops.

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Speaker 2: Having a look at it.

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Speaker 1: It's presented very much like Instagram, so people will have

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Speaker 1: followers on there, you can converse with people on there,

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Speaker 1: and basically a lot of people are selling their secondhand

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Speaker 1: clothes and more. Has struck a chord with a lot

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Speaker 1: of millennials and gen Z's is the fact that it's sustainable.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like that's the most in fashioned

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Speaker 1: thing at the moment of sustainability and being individual, so

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Speaker 1: it is very popular amongst younger people. What's the difference

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Speaker 1: between that marketplace, Well, personally, I'd feel more inclined to

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Speaker 1: sell something on there because you've got the guarantee of

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Speaker 1: people paying you through PayPal. It's a bit more fancy,

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Speaker 1: That's why it obviously makes more sense to have it

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Speaker 1: It involves a cheating scandal, a toothbrush, and a couple

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Speaker 1: the sort of like the mum and dad couple of

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Speaker 1: the series, and she was just giving it to Stacy

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Speaker 1: like you should believer, and you.

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Speaker 2: Did feel like screaming some sense into her.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the best part of this was the

442
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Speaker 1: fact that David got exposed for doing an unthinkable crime

443
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Speaker 1: to Haley's toothbrush. I'm not gonna say poor Hailey because

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think she's a victim as per se. Well,

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00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,880
Speaker 1: the thing is, I was feeling a little bit sorry

446
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 1: for David when I heard that Haley had cheated. Then again,

447
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,440
Speaker 1: I still had in the back of my mind when

448
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Speaker 1: he was talking about the weird sex they apparently had,

449
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 1: but then also that he went ape on her in

450
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Speaker 1: Singapore and then completely backtrack.

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Speaker 2: That annoyed me.

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Speaker 1: I was a bit unsure how I felt about David.

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Speaker 1: But then, as Kate said, he did the unthinkable. So

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Speaker 1: what he's done, for those who haven't seen it, is

455
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,360
Speaker 1: he took Hailey's toothbrush and decided to clean the toilet

456
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Speaker 1: bowl with it. But he hasn't just done that, He's

457
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Speaker 1: also filmed it and sent it stupidly to some of

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Speaker 1: the other contestants, and it was quite obvious that there

459
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Speaker 1: was a mess in the toilet because they couldn't show

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Speaker 1: the video, and instead they showed one of the experts

461
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Speaker 1: dry reaching, which is bloody hilarious. Now, what would you

462
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Speaker 1: guys do if someone put your toothbrush in the toilet bowl?

463
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Speaker 2: Oh and I used it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'd go nuts. Are they all those

465
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Speaker 1: horror stories that like people real estate agents do.

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Speaker 2: That will put them I heard that story.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like a myth about

468
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Speaker 1: those people that broke into someone's home and put their

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Speaker 1: toilet brushes up their ars and then did the photo

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Speaker 1: of it, and they only found out once they developed

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Speaker 1: the film. Well, I loved how Hailey waited for it,

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Speaker 1: Like it was probably two hours into this hellish dinner party,

473
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, she whips out the phone

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Speaker 1: and she whips out the toothbrush and it was in

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Speaker 1: a bra. Yeah, didn't you throw it at him? And

476
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Speaker 1: she threw it.

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Speaker 2: Across the room.

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Speaker 1: The funniest bit was that that I keep laughing about

479
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 1: is that Michelle's like, Wow, it's just.

480
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Speaker 2: You know, it's lucky that you didn't use it.

481
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Speaker 1: It's just very lucky, and she goes, but I did.

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Speaker 2: We all know I did.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny in the veins, like bulging in her head.

484
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Speaker 2: Well, Kyl and.

485
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Speaker 1: Jack the Kyle and Jackie Oh Show hid an all

486
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Speaker 1: time low or high, depending on the way you looked

487
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 1: at it, and they actually somehow managed to get the

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Speaker 1: toothbrush off Hayley and Kyle offered to pay one of

489
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: the workers there are one thousand dollars if he cleaned

490
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Speaker 1: his teeth with the toothbrush.

491
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Speaker 2: How we meant to know it was the same one.

492
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Speaker 1: Well, the way that this guy and Jackie was reacting,

493
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Speaker 1: it seemed pretty legitimate. Another funny part of the show

494
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Speaker 1: that I thought was important to discuss was Connie and

495
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Speaker 1: Johnny's text exchange now the thumbs up. Yeah, So Johnny

496
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: went out and he was meant to be back and

497
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Speaker 1: I think she was making him dinner. No, they weren't

498
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: you going bowling? Because Connie really likes bowling according to

499
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,719
Speaker 1: her sister. She really likes bowling anyway, So instead like

500
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: it seems like all the maths husbands do. It sounds

501
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: like it's a euphemisms she does. I was thinking, what

502
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 1: are you guys talking about? Is that something her sister

503
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: just made a joke. Anyway, And as all the math's

504
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: husbands do and approves why they're single, they all go

505
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 1: get pissed with their mates instead of coming back and

506
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Speaker 1: seeing their wives.

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Speaker 2: And she obviously was pissed off.

508
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Speaker 1: So she I think he said, is it okay if

509
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Speaker 1: I stay back here with my friends? He said, I'm

510
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: gonna gim I'm gonna have to postpone bowling. Is it

511
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Speaker 1: a right if I stay? Or something like that, and

512
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: she sent a sarcastic thumbs up. Now, any girl knows,

513
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 1: you know, if you're not over fifty and you're using

514
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Speaker 1: the thumbs up, then it's being sarcastic. That's all that

515
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Speaker 1: sends me Like, I'll message him and it'll just send

516
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Speaker 1: me a thumbs up.

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Speaker 2: I think Mom does it too, and I don't know.

518
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Speaker 1: I mean, she's probably listening right now, but I don't

519
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 1: know she realizes that it sometimes comes across as rude.

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00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: I know she's not meaning it. Do you know what

521
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Speaker 2: I feel like?

522
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Speaker 1: If it's on Facebook messenger, it might not be rude,

523
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Speaker 1: but definitely on text message, if you're sending any single

524
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: emoji other than maybe like a kiss face or a

525
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: smiley face. It's the it's the modern day, k you know,

526
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: when you're back in the day when you used to

527
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Speaker 1: put kay and you could even be ever actually do that.

528
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Speaker 1: I never did that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know what I loved?

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Speaker 1: I loved how because after they've had this fight Connie

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Speaker 1: and Jonathan, of course the producers have made it that

532
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Speaker 1: it's the week that their family come and visit. So

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Speaker 1: I love Connie's mum and sister all backing her, and

534
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: then Jonathan's mom was like he would have legitimately thought

535
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Speaker 1: that the thumbs up, man, go ahead?

536
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 2: Why didn't he ring?

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Speaker 1: All the other family dinner I enjoyed watching was I

538
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Speaker 1: can't remember their names. It was the couple that were

539
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: the woman in the bikini in the spa on the

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Speaker 1: Honey Anyway, they the guy's mum and auntie were there,

541
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Speaker 1: and the auntie's legitimate first question was can we all

542
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Speaker 1: ask have you bombed? Who uses the word bomb? And secondly,

543
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Speaker 1: what the hell would you want to know? But things

544
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: got worse because the guy, instead of backing his wife,

545
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: they agreed not to talk about the argument that they'd

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00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 1: had over her being jealous. Instead, he squealed like a

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00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: pig and then got his mummy to back him up

548
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Speaker 1: the whole time.

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Speaker 2: It was just pathetic.

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00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: Well, from what I've heard, the producers really probed the

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00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: family to ask about that sex question because you know,

552
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: when Avon and I've forgotten his name whatever, the partner

553
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: of Avan is the ones that, yeah, the only couple

554
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: that seemed to be working. Avann's mum was apparently told

555
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: to keep pushing and she never, according to Avon, asked

556
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: questions like that the only couple that's working and the

557
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Speaker 1: ones that aren't having sex?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what?

559
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Speaker 1: I love that Avann was painted to be such an

560
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: idiot and such an awful person, and he's probably the

561
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: nicest one on there. Well, one that was meant to

562
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: be really nice is Mikey in it seems like ever

563
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: since he's got off the show, he was being portrayed

564
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 1: very nicely because he seems like.

565
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: A complete twat.

566
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Speaker 1: He went on the Kyle and Jackie Yo Show today

567
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: and he himself is embroad in his own sort of

568
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Speaker 1: love triangle because it's rumored that he hooked up with

569
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: Stacy and then he's actually accused of starting it or

570
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: Stacy is that Natasha hooked up with Mikey's dad. Oh

571
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Speaker 1: my gosh, I hadn't because I listened to that interview.

572
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Speaker 1: I had no idea that that was a rumor going around.

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00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of person starts a rumor like Well,

574
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: there was also a rumor about Natasha that she was

575
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: a high end air score, which kind of made more

576
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: sense because she she's kind of dating older men. I'm

577
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: not saying that she's denied that.

578
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that things.

579
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: Are getting very messy, even messier than normal. Like it

580
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 1: just shows that they only hired trash to be on

581
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: the show.

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00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 2: You know that's fair to call the people trash. You

583
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 2: haven't watched it, they are trash. I'm just saying. I

584
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 2: think it's a real It's a real worry.

585
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: Though, because after seeing a couple of them on the

586
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: Carl and Jackie Osho being interviewed, it's obvious that they

587
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: were quite distressed after appearing on the show, that their

588
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: mental health has taken a battering. I do I feel

589
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: sorry for Natasha. She seemed like she was just straw

590
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: and it had enough. And I suppose it's hard for

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Speaker 1: them because they know everything that's gone down and they

592
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: keep referencing the Maths. Then the reunion, Oh my god,

593
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: sounds sensational.

594
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: So if you've got to beat up to date for

595
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: when that hits, I don't.

596
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: Know how it could beat the last one when Martha

597
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 1: poured wine on Surrel's head, Like, I just don't know,

598
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: but I feel like, what's gonna happen next with someone

599
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: going to murder somebody at these dinner party?

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Speaker 2: Got I hope not ordered out there.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm vowing to catch try and catch up by

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Speaker 1: next week so I can add something to these conversations. Well,

603
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: one thing talking about the Maths brides after the show

604
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Speaker 1: I found interesting is Mark Marks?

605
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: Is it Markson?

606
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: You know that famous Max Marks? And sorry, he's actually

607
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: signing up all the popular contentious brides. And it's reported

608
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: that they can earn anywhere between five thousand and nine

609
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a week for sponsored posts. Far after being

610
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: math Hale, Haley's so going to get a toothbrush ad

611
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: I was totally a yearly salary of three hundred thousand dollars.

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00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: And it's no surprise because I also saw another article

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Speaker 1: saying Haley had left her high paying job in finance

614
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: and she's apparently earning one hundred and fifty thousand dollars

615
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: and then in between maths, she's.

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Speaker 2: Working as a lollipop lady.

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00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's on a construction site. But I also read

618
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: that they only get paid one hundred and fifty dollars

619
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Speaker 1: a day to be on the show.

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what did you think of Sunday

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Speaker 1: Nights episode where Hayley decided to stay but David decided

623
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 1: to leave, and the experts basically said, you.

624
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: Both have to go because this is ridiculous.

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00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: God, admit, I haven't seen Sunday Nights episode, but I

626
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: don't like watching the commitments, sir.

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00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: Okay, it was for so long.

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00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 1: So for those who also haven't seen it, what happens

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00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: is David's giving it all that. He's like, I'm so

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00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: excited to leave this absolutely foul woman and all of

631
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: this stuff, and so he reveals that he's chosen to leave,

632
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: and then she's like, well, I've been trying to think

633
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: how to get you back for that toothbrush, so I've

634
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: decided to stay.

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00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 2: And then then and then then Michelle starts screaming at her,

636
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: like you're just leave, leave Holly.

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00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: No, and then and then Stacy's like, nobody likes you,

638
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: just leave, and then the experts like, this is just

639
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: not what this experiment's apparently meant to be about. We've

640
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: gone too far up their bloody hands together with that

641
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: toothbrush incident. I know, I was kind of I was

642
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: kind of excited when Haley said she was going to stay,

643
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: but I'm really surprised that the producers didn't let let it.

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00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: They probably knew there'd be too much backlash. Why don't

645
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: they kick Jess out, which was trying to hook up

646
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: with that guy? I think maybe because of the toothbrush incident.

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Speaker 2: I think they were worried what might go on.

648
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: But I think that's probably all we've got time for

649
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: to know. Sophie's got to go and watch Maths now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so thank you for everyone that got through the show.

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Speaker 1: We hope you did enjoy it. If you did, please

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Speaker 1: know about it, and if you can also subscribe as well,

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Speaker 1: because that really helps out the channel. And if you

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Speaker 1: podcast as well. Thanks again, for listening, and you'll hear

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Speaker 1: from us again on Thursday, hopefully