1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line right now is the 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: member for Nemajira, Bill Yan. 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Bill. Let me try that again. 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Bill. 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, and good morning to your listeners up 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 3: there in Darwin. 7 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: Now, Bill, I know that earlier in the week we 8 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: obviously spoke to Fawn, the mother of a fifteen year 9 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: old boy who was attacked by a group of youths 10 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: with a machete in Alice Springs actually sorry, an axe 11 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: in Alice Springs while going for. 12 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: His afternoon walk. 13 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 1: There has been quite a development for Fonn who's been 14 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: off of work in Darwin, which is going to allow 15 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: her to relocate. 16 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: This is good news, sure is like Fon and his 17 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 3: son have been on edge ever since that first attack 18 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 3: Monday week ago, and then of course the second one 19 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: where the kids came to his school on that Friday 20 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: afternoon and tried to get to him again. So yeah, 21 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: Fon's son has said he's been doing it really tough. 22 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: And of course you imagined as a mum, you want 23 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: to make sure you put your kids. So we spoke 24 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: to Health and After about getting her transfer to Darwin 25 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: so she can start again. So live somewhere at least 26 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: you feel safe and the young fellow feels safe and 27 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: health have come to the party, and you've offered her 28 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: a transfer up to Darwin now, which is absolutely great 29 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: news for Fun and her son. 30 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: Oh thank goodness. 31 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: I mean it was pretty heartbreaking stuff to hear from 32 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: Fawn earlier in the week and hear what her young 33 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: fella had been through. And I think that anybody who 34 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: has seen that vision that's been doing the rounds on 35 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: social media that shows what had allegedly gone on, it 36 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: was horrifying stuff. 37 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it certainly was scary. Ok, absolutely a horrific, 38 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: horrific attack. And I can't begin I don't think anybody 39 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: could begin to know how that Eckner and her son 40 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: actually felt so usual. Now, of course for the finders, 41 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: she's got to get herself for darl of course, single 42 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: mom with a teenage boy. Now, she's got to realize 43 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: CADO life from Alice up to Darwin, and sadly that 44 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: does become cheap. So I've just been talking to her 45 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: this morning and she's now trying to figure out financially 46 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 3: how she's going to be able to do that. So 47 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: she's got to lift a life up out of here 48 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: and move sixteen hundred k's north and got to find 49 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 3: someone to live in new school for a son, and 50 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: none of it, certainly it's certainly made to change, and. 51 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: None of it through any fault of her own. You know, 52 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: all that we try and do as parents is try 53 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: our best to keep our children safe. And you know 54 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: what her sons had to endure has been absolutely horrendous. 55 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: So essentially she is She told us she's looking for 56 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: a removalist. 57 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: Do you know if she's going to need any other 58 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: help with the move? 59 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not sure case of course it's going to 60 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 3: come at a cost. For removal us is number one. 61 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: Finding somewhere to live up there is certainly going to 62 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: be number two. She's got a short term option, of 63 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: course with a friend, but of course that's not going 64 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: to be a long term option for her, So she's 65 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: going to need someone to live of course, a school. 66 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: I said, for remember that should be pretty straightforward. But 67 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 3: it comes down to that that cost of picking up 68 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: your life, as anyone that's move needs, you're going to 69 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: pick your life up from one place. And she's been 70 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 3: here what for over eight or nine years? I think, 71 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: so you accumulate a bit, yeah you do, and move 72 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: it north to Darwin and maybe in the persons may 73 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: have to store some stuff. So yeah, yeah, she's going 74 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: to she's she's even talking today about maybe have to 75 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: go and try and get a loan to help get 76 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: the money to be able to move. So that sucks, 77 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: and that's and it's really sad that what has happened 78 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: in our town has forced her into this position and 79 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: now is not only has it sort of turned her 80 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: life upside there because els was a home, but now 81 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: it's going to cost her a lot of money to 82 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: provide that safe environment. 83 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: Well, Bill, we've got a lot of very generous people 84 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: that listen to this show. So if there is anybody 85 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: out there listening that does think that they may be 86 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: able to help Fond in some way, please feel free 87 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: to give us a call eight nine four one one 88 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: four nine. You can also get in contact on the 89 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: text line if you'd like, bell can I ask We 90 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: just literally got off the phone to the mayor of 91 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: Mount iSER before chatting with you this morning. Now, she 92 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 1: told us that they're in a situation now that since 93 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: January this year, they've had more than five hundred people 94 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: come across the border from the Northern Territory to mounta 95 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: iSER to access alcohol. 96 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: She reckons that they're up to five hundred. 97 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: And sixty nine, and that as those service providers on 98 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: the ground speaking to the people that are sleeping rough 99 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: in the Leichhardt River and staying in the Leichardt River 100 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: and you know, enjoying a drink, that they are saying 101 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: that they're they're from the NT. 102 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: It's a pretty. 103 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: Bad situation, isn't it when you you know, like we're 104 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: obviously I was screaming out, and now it seems like 105 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: poor old maun ISAs you know, coppying some of the brunt. 106 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: Those numbers are pretty staggering, Ky. That's I knew that 107 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: there'd been a number of people have left Alice Springs 108 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: when the restrictions first came in, but I didn't know 109 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: that high. But well, things are certainly better than all springs, 110 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: I said, Oh, I put my hand up and say 111 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: things are definitely better here with the restrictions. But so 112 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: those chronic drinkers were the ones that there really after 113 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: that access to alcohol now moving across the Queensland, it's 114 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: now become man, was the problem. I certainly feel for 115 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 3: the people of man Eyes and for the mayor over there. Certainly, 116 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: I don't think intention from us here and Alis that's right, 117 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: the problem somewhere else. 118 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And she was very complimentary, you know, very complimentary 119 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: of the mayor as well of Alice Springs and said that, 120 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, she admires the fact that he stood up 121 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: and what he's done. And I know that she's going 122 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: to be writing to her state government but also to 123 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: the you know, to the federal government to sort of 124 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: say there needs to be a bit of a national 125 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: approach here to some of these issues, particularly in regional towns. 126 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, we've always had people going from Northern Territory 127 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 3: and around Central Australia across them out Eyes to get 128 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 3: access to alcohol and bring them back. I think a 129 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: lot of the groad runners go to Eyes and pick 130 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: stuff up from here and bring it back. Also a 131 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: lot of people I know we've moved up to Darwin 132 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 3: through Tannet Creek and Catherine and I've been told that 133 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: there's a number of people I've gone south and even 134 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: people of Kuba Pedia refuse and service to people from 135 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 3: Central Australia to take away alcohol there. So it is 136 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: a bigger picture, Katie, certainly is. And when you've got 137 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 3: problem drinkers and people are adicted to alcohol, they'll do 138 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 3: anything to get access. So I think you're right. It's 139 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 3: probably more of a I suppose a national issue. Now 140 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: we're doing a little bit better here in Central Australia. 141 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: It was really long way to go. 142 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: It is good to hear that, you know, hopefully things 143 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: start to calm down a little bit in Central Australia. 144 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: Goodness knows you need it. Bill. 145 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: Just a quick one on a separate topic. I know 146 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: that you'd raise concerns about access to some popular fishing 147 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 1: spots on the show last year. Is there any updates 148 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: on Shady Camp? And we were hearing about gates band locks? 149 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: Have you heard much? 150 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: Oh? Now those gates, Katie, I said, I've done some investigations. Yeah, 151 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: about back, because I've heard the same thing too. What 152 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: there is is some gates on the Point Stuart Road 153 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: in there around the entrance to one of the stations. 154 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: And that's because they closed that Point Stuart Road down 155 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: during the wet so no one can go down wreck 156 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: the road but also get stuck down there. So those 157 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 3: gates went in recently to keep that area off limits 158 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: during the wet Hopefully they'll be reopening as soon as 159 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: they can because with the upgrade that road, it means 160 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: they're going to be able to open up road earlier. 161 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: Shady Camp. Well, Shady Camp is still open, and the 162 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: government came out and along with NLC and said the 163 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: new permit system is in place. I think you've got 164 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: to register to give into some of those areas. But 165 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: I have anecdotally heard that the Shady Camp area under 166 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: that the beds and banks and some of those land 167 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: claims that may be hands over by the end of 168 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: this year as part of one of those settlements. So 169 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: I had to wait here waiting here further about that. 170 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: But that's, of course, that's a federal thing. Through the 171 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: Federal Aboriginal Affairs Minister Linda Bernie, she gets final say 172 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: on what happens there. 173 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: So we'll wait to hear about that. 174 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: One. 175 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: Catch up with Dave Tavello and all the players in 176 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 3: that space, just to find out what's going on and 177 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: have listened to what they think. 178 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Hey, Belle, while we were talking, I did 179 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: get a message from someone in the rural area saying 180 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: that she's going to donate five hundred dollars to form 181 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: to help her move. 182 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: So that's a lovely star. Yeah, that is a lovely start. 183 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: So we'll make note of that and we'll get in 184 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: contact with you and let you know who it is 185 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: and how we can make that happen. 186 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: Oh thanks Cartie, and look, thanks everybody happing down for 187 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 3: helping on there, because yeah, single mom put it in 188 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 3: a horrible position and really needs to help. So yeah, 189 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 3: goes out with people with Darla. 190 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thanks so much, Bill for your time this morning. 191 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: Mate. We'll catch up with you again very soon. 192 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: Cheers Katie, and thank you to your listeners, and thanks 193 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: everybody happing down. 194 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: Thank you.