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Speaker 1: Hey, this is the Christian O'Connell show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Today, second of July is exactly the midpoint of this year.

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Speaker 2: If we're on a seesaw perfectly balanced, one hundred and.

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Speaker 3: Eighty third day of the year.

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Speaker 1: Wow, this is amazing, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: We are in the midpoint of this year twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Last week on Wednesday we were talking about I see

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Speaker 2: Wednesday as the kind of like it saw It's halftime.

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Speaker 2: Look back at the first half. You have, you let

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Speaker 2: a few in, you're winning or losing. You tie up

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Speaker 2: the defense, come on the attack. Okay, part of the

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Speaker 2: bus Just god, it's been a good week, so fucking now,

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Speaker 2: free will for the rest of this week. I've done

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Speaker 2: the task I want to do. I've actually ticked off

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Speaker 2: more than one thing on my to do list. So

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Speaker 2: actually today I urge everyone, and it might not be

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Speaker 2: you might be on your way to work right now,

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Speaker 2: spend a little bit of time. Right I know you

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Speaker 2: lead busy lives, but I think you'll get something out

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Speaker 2: of this. I started to do it last night, just

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Speaker 2: for ten minutes. I actually found it really good, and

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Speaker 2: I'm just talking to my wife and kids now over

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Speaker 2: in the thoxt couple of days, we're all going to

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Speaker 2: do it and talk about how our year has gone

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Speaker 2: so far. Love that, and then how we feel about

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Speaker 2: the next half of the year, because you still got

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Speaker 2: time to change things and stuff like that. You know

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Speaker 2: things anyway. So I was thinking last night, like my

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Speaker 2: year so far twenty twenty five, I think our lives

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Speaker 2: are a lot light seasons, and sometimes when you think

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Speaker 2: about it, you can probably tell me what's season in

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Speaker 2: right now. And I don't mean the season and where

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Speaker 2: we are right now winter. I mean actually for you

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Speaker 2: in your life right now, you could be in a summer.

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Speaker 2: You could be in a spring, you could be in autumorrow.

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Speaker 2: I actually could be a winter in your life. I

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Speaker 2: would say for a lot of this year, it's been

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Speaker 2: a winter. It's been still I would say the overall

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Speaker 2: youngest daughter left home in February, and then even Jack

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Speaker 2: Post leaving the show as well. That there's all this departure,

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Speaker 2: last week, we sold our family home. Much we're sold.

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Speaker 2: That is huge and it's very strange, Patsy, because normally

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Speaker 2: when you sell a house, you have someone that you're

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Speaker 2: excited about going to. Yeah, we haven't gotten you're homeless.

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Speaker 2: Can you guys start pulling me out and share me,

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Speaker 2: you know, school, that pet and you'd have the guinea

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Speaker 3: This week, Well, actually, Will and I am looking for

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Speaker 2: Okay, this strange thing where like we don't know where

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Speaker 2: Long settlement now, so we've got a good couple of

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Speaker 2: That is past I saw it like that missus O'Connell

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Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's a lot, I will say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a letting go, a kind of what

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Speaker 2: But now do you know what I feel? Well, this

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Speaker 2: we will find a new home. Don't anyone worrying about us?

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Speaker 2: I say, paying him? I thought the show, the station,

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Speaker 2: So second half of this year, I feel like a

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Speaker 2: I kept thinking it was something starting, it, starting, it stopping.

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Speaker 2: Just in the last five days, I've got it.

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Speaker 1: That's click, I've got the golden thread. Now I've got it.

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Speaker 2: And also I know what my new coaching course IM

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Speaker 2: Tired in with what the new book is going to

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Speaker 1: So where are you? What's This has been a big

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Speaker 2: You have stepped in and really dramatic circumstances and been

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Speaker 2: And how are you mum and dad with that? Because

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Speaker 3: Definitely, it's hard to say. For Mum and Dad had

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Speaker 2: It just shines through your whole family. Actually, but it

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Speaker 3: I think so. I think on some level it was

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Speaker 2: I saw, just like then Rio, because I watched it twice,

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Speaker 3: Yes, So a couple of things happened. One when kimber

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Speaker 1: No, it's a power move. Use it, mamaly.

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Speaker 3: She is. So we all went over there as a fad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So we all went over with Kimber. Yeah in April,

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Speaker 2: Does she want some time with it alone?

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Speaker 3: No, you're actually not allowed to. They have to supervise

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