1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families Podcast. It's the podcast for the 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: time poor parent who just once answers now never before 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: on the Happy Families Podcast, have we tried to cram 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: so much news into one episode? And Kylie, I know 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: that you roll your eye every time we do this, 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: but maybe we should do it more often. I don't know. 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: This week in parenting, sorry, I need to do it 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: the proper way. 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: This week in perishing, that was terrible. 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 3: Really, I wasn't expecting you to do it nominally. It's 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: all me. Well, I was joining, join me, here we go. 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: This week we got to count it in one, two, three. 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: This week in parenting, Oh my goodness, JR. 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 3: I don't know what you can do with that. 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: By the time this goes to it, we'll laugh and 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: say what will we thinking? 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: Six stories? 18 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: Six stories in twelve minutes, so two minutes each. There's 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: so much to talk about. You're going to guide me 20 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: through it and ask me any questions you have. But 21 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: there is so much going on in the world of 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: parenting and things related to parents and how we can 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: help our families to be happy. The news media has 24 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: been going absolutely gangbusters. Where do you want to start? 25 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 2: Well, the first story rodbox roadblocks. 26 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: Yes, I love I love how every time we talk 27 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: about roadblocks on the podcast, you call it roadbox, folks. 28 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: In case you're wondering, we don't do roadblocks in our house. 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: Roadblocks roadblocks with it like R O. 30 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: B L O X. Well, the first time I caught 31 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 2: it road block. Now I'm calling it roebox. 32 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: Let's give it the story. 33 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 4: We're seeing examples of these cases shifting from the online 34 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 4: world into the offline world, where kids are being physically kidnapped, abducted, 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 4: and sexually assaulted by predators who have connected with them 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: on roadblocks. 37 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: The article suggests that roadbox is a. 38 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: Pedophile healthscape for kids. Here's the deal. 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: So, Hindenberg Research is a company over in the US. 40 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: They look at stock that is overvalued. And I'm going 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: to get all stock marketing for a second, but stay 42 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: with me because this is important. Essentially, if you end 43 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: up on their list, if you short a company, what 44 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: that basically means is that you're making a prediction about it. 45 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: You're buying shares with a short term expectation that that 46 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: company is going to tank and you're going to make 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: a whole lot of money. Or you're selling shares or 48 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: whatever it is. And Hindenburg Research, if they talk about 49 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: your company, it means that you're in trouble, so Hindenburg 50 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: and the reason I'm talking about this is because it 51 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: relates to a game that so many of our kids 52 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: are on, well not our kids, but everyone else's kids, 53 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: because we don't let our kids play it. And what 54 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: Hindenburg have basically said is Roadblocks is a twenty seven 55 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: billion dollar online gaming company and it has been losing 56 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: so much money in the last twelve months. Losses total 57 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: one point zero seven billion dollars. It's not profitable as 58 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: a company, it hasn't been since it went public. But 59 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: here's the critical thing, and this is why it's on 60 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: this weekend parenting. It's stock price and in turn people's 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: ability to make money with the stock is completely reliant 62 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: on the growth metrics that Roadblocks gives because it's required 63 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: to to Wall Street. Publicly listed company has to give 64 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: a whole lot of metrics to Wall Streets so that 65 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: they can make decisions. And what Hindenburg Research have said 66 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: is our research indicates that Roadblocks is lying to investors, regulators, 67 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: and advertisers about the number of people in inverted commas 68 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: people on its platform, inflating the key metric by between 69 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: twenty five and forty two percent. 70 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: That's insane. 71 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: That is insane. 72 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: But there's more. 73 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: Since prior to going public, Roadblocks has reported the number 74 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: of people in inverted commas on its platform in dozens 75 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: of official investor communications. They say that there are over 76 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: fifty four point one million people coming into Roadblocks every 77 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: single day. But what they're basically saying is the daily 78 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: active users. They reckon that there's numerous counts run by 79 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: single people. There's also body accounts and alternative accounts and 80 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So they're essentially lying to keep 81 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: their stock price high. And the last thing that they highlight, 82 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: which is probably the most important thing I've buried the 83 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: lead I should have started with this is that for 84 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: the second quarter of twenty twenty four, as they push 85 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: towards profitability, Roadblocks reported at two percent year over year 86 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: decline in its trust and safety expenses. Coret of the 87 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: problem is that roadblocks of social media features allow pedophiles 88 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: to efficiently target hundreds of children with no upfront screening 89 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: to prevent them from joining the platform. As an example, 90 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, prior to red Blocks going public. A 91 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: twenty nine year old was caught by police with one 92 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five hours of video footage of him 93 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: grooming and engaging in explicit behavior with one hundred and 94 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: fifty minors using online platforms, namely roadblocks and at Hindenberg 95 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: Research dot com slash roadblocks. They go through all the 96 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: other stuff that's there. Why am I sharing this? I'm 97 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: sharing it for two reasons. Number One, this is a 98 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: public listed company. There's making or doing its and certainly 99 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: there are shareholders who are making real money as they 100 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: buy and sell these shares, and these people are profiting 101 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: off the exploitation of our children. And I just want 102 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: to emphasize again there is so much evidence that these 103 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: guys are engaging in allowing a pedophile healthscape to exist. 104 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: That's all that's my this week in parenting about roadblocks next, 105 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: unless you've got questions to me. 106 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 2: It just seems so disgraceful that something that literally is 107 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: unlawful is allowed to happen in broad daylight. Yeah, without 108 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: any form of justice. So there's this protection for our kids. 109 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: There's this thing in the United States. And I'm not 110 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: a lawyer, and I haven't read this carefully, but there's 111 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: a section in the United States law around technology called 112 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: Section two thirty, and essentially what it does is it 113 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: absolves the carriers, It absolves the matters and the roadblockses 114 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: and so on of any responsibility for what users do 115 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: on the platform. 116 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: Give it. That's disgraceful because they've created the platform for 117 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: users to. 118 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: Use, and they've not put any safety measures into space 119 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: measures in that which I do find kind of extraordinary 120 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: because if I owned a restaurant and the head of 121 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: the Martha was hanging out at my restaurant and doing 122 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: business deals, I think that I would also get in 123 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: trouble from law enforcement. 124 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: It's somewhere. 125 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: If I had a hotel and people were engaging in 126 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: explicit and illicit illegal activities in my hotel, I would 127 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: be shut down, like that's that's what most laws in 128 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: most countries would do. But this section two thirty exempts 129 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: the tech companies. It completely absolves them of responsibility, and 130 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: they are writing this thing as far as they can 131 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: to prop up their share price and do awful things. Anyway, 132 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: the take home message on this week in parenting for 133 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: this one is Roadblocks is a pedophile healthscape for kids. 134 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: It's really if you're going to let your kids be 135 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: on there, if you're going to let your kids beyond there, 136 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: and I don't think the issue it, but if you're 137 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: going to you've got to be monitoring, you've got to 138 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: be aware, and you've got to be having conversations constantly 139 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: about the risks that are associated keep them on devices 140 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: in public places, they never go never to friend somebody 141 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: that they don't know, and then go to some other platform. 142 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: You've just got to know what's going on. 143 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: Well, this flows in beautifully into our second article. 144 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 5: It is universally accepted that parenting is difficult, but now 145 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 5: the US Surgeon General says parenting maybe hazard as to 146 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 5: your health. 147 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kylie. This one was published in the Wall Street 148 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: Journal a couple of weeks ago. 149 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: Now, in fact, I'm going back about five weeks, six 150 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: weeks because I'm a little bit behind on this week 151 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: in parenting, But the US Surgeon General has issued a 152 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: warning literally and I quote, parenting can be harmful to 153 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: your mental health. 154 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 5: Doctor Vivig Murphy wrote, and aren't bad in The New 155 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 5: York Times issued and advisory calling attention to the stress 156 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 5: and mental health concerns facing parents and caregivers. 157 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: The report sites the American Psychological Association saying nearly half 158 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: the parents report overwhelming stress most days. I mean, that's 159 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: just such a staggering number. Half of parents report overwhelming 160 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: stress most days, compared with twenty six percent of other adults. 161 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: They're lonelier as well. 162 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: According to cited data in a twenty twenty one survey, 163 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: sixty five percent of parents said they were only compared 164 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: to fifty five percent of those without kids. 165 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: In some ways, parenting has changed so much over the 166 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: generations and what we do now. We are so much 167 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: more involved in our kids' lives than we've ever been before, 168 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: and that has definitely got some amazing benefits to our 169 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 2: children and to us, But there's also limitations around that. 170 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: And the idea that we feel lonely and isolated is 171 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: real because our entire lives revolve around our children instead 172 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: of what would have happened in my grandparents' time, where 173 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: the kids went off to school, they took care of themselves, 174 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: They came home and Mum and dad fed them. 175 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: Well, it's not that it wasn't that simple. It's not 176 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: that they took care of themselves. It's that the community, 177 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: it's that society did so. 178 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, parenting being a little bit glipper. 179 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 3: I get it. 180 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, parenting was once a team sport. It really is 181 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: an individual sport now and I think that's the greatest challenge. 182 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: Too many parents feel like they're doing it alone. Mothers 183 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: groups aren't as cohesive or as common as they used 184 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: to be, and I don't know that's gendered, but that's 185 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: what they always were. The community and the structures in 186 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: community that we used to have as simply either not 187 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: there or not as strong as they once were. And 188 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: there's a whole lot less trust in the community. We 189 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: look at people around us and we don't trust them 190 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: like we once did. 191 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: Beyond that, we've. 192 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: Got vigil aged dangers. Once upon a time, kids really 193 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: did have play based childhoods, and now that has changed 194 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: to screen based childhoods. That's what Jonathan Hate talked all 195 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: about in the Angst Generation. But I also think that 196 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: there's a narrative now around parenting, and that narrative I 197 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: had Angela Mollart, a columnist and commentator, on the podcast 198 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, talking about how parenting needs 199 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: a new pr job because when you look at what 200 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: happens on TikTok and on Instagram, and the narrative around parenting. 201 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: The narrative isugh, this is hard, this is breaking me. 202 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've got what it takes to 203 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,479 Speaker 1: do this. And we're having fewer kids, but we're investing 204 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: so much more in them, which increases the pressure on 205 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: us and on them, increases the anxiety, makes everyone else 206 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: feel it. So does parenting need to stress you out? 207 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: Do we need a mental health warning on parenting like 208 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: we have a health warning on a packet of cigarettes. 209 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: I don't think so. What I think we've forgotten how 210 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: to do is have fun. I just think we don't 211 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: have nearly as much fun as we used to when 212 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: it comes to our families. And we've also decided that 213 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: we have to do it all, and it's not fair. 214 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: No one's supposed to be able to do it all. 215 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: So that's my second story for this week in Parenting. 216 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: Over the last handful of months, we've talked about the 217 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: fact that there has been cries from the community for 218 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: age limits to be put on social media, and Meta 219 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: has finally made an announcement. 220 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah social media. This was in a Daily Telegraph about 221 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: four weeks ago. Three weeks ago, social media giant Meta 222 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: wants Australia to make parents responsible for approving white apps 223 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: children under the age of sixteen download denying this was 224 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: shirking its duty to protect kids online. That was the 225 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: big announcement. We want to help parents and we're going 226 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: to help parents by putting the responsibility under parents. I 227 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: love this this company. They are just doing absolutely everything 228 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: they can to bear no responsibility for the tremendous damage 229 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: that's being done to children young. 230 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: People around the world because it's not about them. 231 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: The laws allow them to do it, and therefore if 232 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: people want to make an outcry, then they need to 233 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: step up and shoulder the responsibility. 234 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: And it is just not fair. 235 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: I think if you go back to the previous story 236 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: that we just talked about, this idea that parents are 237 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: having to do it on their own, the village is 238 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: no longer there. There are no safeguards in place, and 239 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: people are happy to be remunerated for their creations and 240 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: inventions at the expense of our children and that sense 241 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: of village and community. 242 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that they're liable. 243 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: I think there's really big challenges here. Meta's goal seems 244 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: to be that they want to look like they're doing 245 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: something without actually doing anything. Their support for age verification, 246 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: that's great, they're saying, yeah, age verification is necessary, but 247 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: their proposal totally inadequate. Social media companies, make no mistake, 248 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: are causing immense harm to our kids. Let me say 249 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: this a different way, because this is one of those 250 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: arguments where people say, no, the problem isn't social media, 251 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: it's the people on social media. It's kind of like 252 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: in the United States with the whole gun debate, right, 253 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: guns don't kill people. 254 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 3: People kill people. 255 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: So I was at a school recently and presentation about 256 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: respect for relationships. A young man came up to me afterwards, 257 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: in one of the senior years of high school. So 258 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: this isn't a little kid, this is a big kid. 259 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: And he described the things that have been happening to 260 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: him online from a bunch of other kids in the school, 261 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: where they've been catfishing him, where they've been bullying him, 262 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: where social media platforms have been used to absolutely destroy 263 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: this kid, just hurt him so much to the point 264 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: where he has considered taking his own life. And what's 265 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: going on here is Metais saying, well, no, no, we can't 266 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: do anything about this at all. 267 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 3: We can't help. But what we do want to do 268 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: is we want. 269 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: To encourage parents to be aware of the apps that 270 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: their children are downloading, and then everything will be okay. 271 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: Number One, I think most parents do have a pretty 272 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: decent idea of what apps their kids have downloaded and 273 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: what apps their kids are using. I really believe that 274 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: they know they might not know what's going on on 275 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: the apps, but they know what the kids are using. 276 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: But number two, just knowing that your kids have the 277 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: app doesn't protect them. In the US, there's what's known 278 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: as COSPA, the Kids Online Safety and Protection Act, And 279 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: the very day that that was to be debated in 280 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: the United States Congress or Senate or whatever it was, 281 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: Meta shows up on Breakfast TV and says we're introducing 282 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: this and this safety feature on Instagram to keep kids safe. 283 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: The day that the politicians are going to debate it. 284 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: I want how convenient haven't been able to come up 285 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: with anything to help the kids until now, and now 286 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, well look at that, the technology 287 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: is there. Anyway, We've been talking way too long. There 288 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: are six stories. I don't think we're going to have 289 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: time for them all because we've done three and our 290 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: time is almost up. 291 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: I reckon, I reckon, we need. 292 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: To call it quits there and maybe we do another 293 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: this week in Parenting next week. 294 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: You're such a cheat. 295 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 296 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: We can't do the other three at the time we've got. 297 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: It's just not going to fit. Can you live with it? 298 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: I can live with that, okay. 299 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: The Happy Family's Podcast. 300 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for your patience, thank you for 301 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: allowing you. I don't know what I was thinking when 302 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: I said we could do six. 303 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: Well, at least we didn't tell them what we were 304 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: talking about. 305 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, every now and again, I'm like, let's do four, 306 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: let's do five, and you're. 307 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: Like, what are you doing? 308 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: And we've only gotten through three. It's because there's so 309 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: much going Oh, by the way, did I mention that 310 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: Parental Guidance Season three is coming back next year? 311 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: You have not I can't. 312 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: Believe, and I'm dropping it at the end of the 313 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: pod like that. More news on that coming up soon. 314 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: Parental Guidance Season three. It's on Channel nine with Yours 315 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: Truly out the Popcorn and Ali. 316 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: Langdon I'll tell you more about that. I don't know. 317 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: Maybe in older bed it tomorrow Tomorrow, I reckon we. 318 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: Can do that. 319 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: The Happy Family's podcast is produced by Justin Rouland from 320 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: Bridge Media. 321 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: Thank you Jr. For the great work that you do. 322 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: If you'd like more information about making your family happier, 323 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: if you would like to join us in this incredible 324 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: course that we're running for autistic well I was gonna 325 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: say for autistic kids it is, but really it's for parents' 326 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: autistic kids. You get me, you get doctor Joey who 327 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: is a TikTok star. 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