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Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily Ohs. It's Saturday,

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Speaker 2: the eleventh of January.

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Speaker 1: I'm Zara, I'm Sam.

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Speaker 2: There's no better way to start a new year, I

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Speaker 2: think than talking about some of the brighter stories, right.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's going to be a year, hopefully

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Speaker 2: Than tween filled with good news.

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Speaker 1: I've got good vibes. I've got good vibes about the

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Speaker 1: longer and longer. Because there's going to be so much good.

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Speaker 2: News to share, such a good problem to have.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we start with what I think was the

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Speaker 2: Work, like absolute stand out. It is, of course, the

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Speaker 2: safe discovery of twenty three year old Hardy Nazari, now

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Speaker 2: He went missing on Boxing days. So he and his

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Speaker 3: Breaking news and a twenty three year old man missing

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Speaker 1: And I wasn't really following the search too closely in

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Speaker 1: Bit of AI medical innovation in there as well. What

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Speaker 1: a good note to end on. That's all we've got

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Speaker 1: time for on today's edition of the Good News pot

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Speaker 1: from the Daily Ours. We're going to be back on

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Speaker 1: Monday morning with your regular news explainer. Until then, have

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Speaker 1: a wonderful weekend. My name is Lily Maddon and I'm

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Speaker 1: a proud Arunda Bungelung Cargoton woman from Gadighl Country. The

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Speaker 1: Daily oz acknowledges that this podcast is recorded on the

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Speaker 1: lands of the Gadighl people and pays respect to all.

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Speaker 2: Aboriginal and Torrestrate island and nations.

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Speaker 1: We pay our respects to the first peoples of these countries,

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Speaker 1: both past and present,