WEBVTT - Jade Tunchy's Cancellation, Nadia Bartel's Pay Check & Mitch Third's Dubai Antics

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<v Speaker 1>This is Outspoken, the podcast it's not afraid to say

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy, Kate and

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have

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<v Speaker 1>identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers

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<v Speaker 1>all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so fat.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Happy Monday, and welcome back to Outspoken. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's just Sophie and Kate here today because Amy and

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<v Speaker 1>Daye are actually in Mount Gambia celebrating their anniversary. Very

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<v Speaker 1>romantic getaway. I wouldn't put Mount Gambia on the top

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<v Speaker 1>of my list, you know, Paris, but they are going

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<v Speaker 1>scuba diving there. I think that's why they've chosen the destination.

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<v Speaker 1>It did make me laugh because growing up, Sophie and

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<v Speaker 1>I in particular hate dunking our heads in the pool.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a mixture of.

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<v Speaker 1>Not wanting to look gross and get water in my eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>but then also Sophie pea's in the pool. So I

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<v Speaker 1>have been known to piss in the ball as an adult.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like now I'm in my thirties, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>piss in the pool anymore. But yeah, it was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've evolved. So we're not talking about pissing in the

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<v Speaker 1>pool today as part of our general chat, we're actually

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<v Speaker 1>going to be talking about bedtime routines and sleeping positions.

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<v Speaker 1>And it sounds like we're about to talk about children,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're talking about ourselves. And it really surprised me, Kate,

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<v Speaker 1>because we were chatting to our best friend on the

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<v Speaker 1>weekend and you revealed to all of us that you

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<v Speaker 1>and Reese fall asleep hugging one another. See, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to clear that up because I actually don't fall asleep

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<v Speaker 1>in this position. I just like being hugged. Reese will

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<v Speaker 1>fall asleep and then after a while I'll get too hot,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll kind of push away and get sleep sort

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<v Speaker 1>of on my side. What about you, because you said

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<v Speaker 1>that Archie has changed everything for you and Brandon. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we used to have, like when we first started going out,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a little bit of a cuddle and then

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<v Speaker 1>they'd be sort of rolling to your separate sides. But

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<v Speaker 1>we don't really even get that cuddle in anymore because

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<v Speaker 1>our dog, Archie, he whimpers whenever we show one another

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of affection in front of him, and he

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<v Speaker 1>literally sleeps right in the middle of our bed, so

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<v Speaker 1>we can't even really touch one another. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>getting quite crowded. I think we'll need to get at

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<v Speaker 1>the king sized bed soon. The other thing is, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in a really bad habit at the moment. So I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say good night to Brandon, he'll roll over go to sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will stay on my phone for probably an

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<v Speaker 1>hour to two hours later, scrolling and looking at wedding venues.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just in a really bad pattern at the

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<v Speaker 1>moment that I just can't seem to break. And to

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<v Speaker 1>make it worse, since we've all gone back to work,

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon is now listening to rain music that relaxes him.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is needing, and this is making me need

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the toilet constantly. Well, I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>for anyone again who knows us, we always need to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the toilet all the time, So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that is a big issue if that's making you

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<v Speaker 1>need to go more than usual. I'm just so intrigued

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<v Speaker 1>to hear how people sleep, because our best friend was

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<v Speaker 1>saying that her partner will go to bed before for

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<v Speaker 1>her and she will get into bed and she has

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<v Speaker 1>to watch some sort of television or one of her

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<v Speaker 1>favorite shows before going to sleep, so she will sleep

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<v Speaker 1>with her legs on his stomach. And I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to work that out in my head. I don't actually

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<v Speaker 1>still know the logistics of that. I kind of nodded along,

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<v Speaker 1>acting like I knew what the hell that meant, but

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<v Speaker 1>I really didn't. So when we probably need to chat

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<v Speaker 1>after this, I would love tonight we'll put a thread

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<v Speaker 1>in our Facebook community. How do you fall asleep next

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<v Speaker 1>to your partner? What sort of position do you get in?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you go to bed at the same time. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really intrigued by this sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you're in bed, she's over on your side cuddling.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you wait for her to drift off, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you hug her and roll her over to her side

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<v Speaker 3>of the bay, and then you roll away, hug for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Role for you. Ja Dae Tunci has been slammed for

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<v Speaker 1>calling out a tourism business for refusing to give her

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<v Speaker 1>a refund for her postponed honeymoon. The influencer has been

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<v Speaker 1>accused of trying to bully the small business into submission. Kate,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened so back in August last year, jar Day

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<v Speaker 1>says she tried to cancel her Hunter Valley honeymoon after

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<v Speaker 1>making the decision to postpone her wedding due to COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>so she and her partner at Lockie had put down

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<v Speaker 1>a two thousand dollars deposit with premium holiday rental company

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<v Speaker 1>Weekender Now. On Tuesday, jar Day shared a story asking

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<v Speaker 1>her followers if they knew anyone at Quantus. She complained

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<v Speaker 1>that she had spent four hours on hold during the

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<v Speaker 1>week trying to cancel flights. Then on Thursday, she posted

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<v Speaker 1>a selfie looking pretty glum, and in the caption she

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<v Speaker 1>tagged the weekend to Holiday Company and put them on blast.

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<v Speaker 1>She explained that eight months earlier she had requested a

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<v Speaker 1>refund due to the pandemic, but apparently the best the

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<v Speaker 1>company could do was put the room back up online

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<v Speaker 1>to be booked by someone else. She then said she'd

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<v Speaker 1>reached out six weeks out from the booking and they've

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<v Speaker 1>refused to give her a refund. She wrote, They've had

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<v Speaker 1>months to refund us for a booking we don't need.

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<v Speaker 1>They're taking our money just because they can. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly poor form and so disappointing that businesses are taking

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of people in the middle of a pandemic. She

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<v Speaker 1>then posted a photo of her rolling her eyes with

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<v Speaker 1>the caption not your following them. Later on, she then

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<v Speaker 1>posted a photo of her smiling with the caption they've

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to refund us for our stay. Thank you guys

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<v Speaker 1>for your help. She then added a love heart emoji now,

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<v Speaker 1>much to everyone's delight. Celeb Spellcheck then popped out of hibernation,

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<v Speaker 1>sharing a screenshot of jar Day's story with the caption

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations on not reading the terms and conditions, then using

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<v Speaker 1>your following to bully a small business into giving you

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<v Speaker 1>a refund with the clapping hands emoji now. Jar Day

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<v Speaker 1>ended up deleting the original stories, but hit back, sharing

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<v Speaker 1>the following statement on her Instagram story. She wrote, I

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<v Speaker 1>am every bit entitled to request a refund from a

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<v Speaker 1>business that's charging me to two thousand dollars for accommodation.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need I gave them eight months notice. Eight months.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of people have had to reschedule their wedding since

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the pandemic, and of rightfully received refunds.

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<v Speaker 1>This has nothing to do with supporting small businesses. If

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<v Speaker 1>you guys want to go around throwing two k at

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<v Speaker 1>businesses for services you don't need and won't use, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see all of your receipts. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not a charity, though, so I'm not doing that. Stay safe, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>it's wild out there. She then continued by saying, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so incredibly sick and tired of this foul page encouraging

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<v Speaker 1>bullying and harassment towards influences just because they can. We

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<v Speaker 1>are human beings. I emailed the business on multiple occasions

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<v Speaker 1>trying to sort the refund out, and unfortunately posting about

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<v Speaker 1>it was the last resort. If you guys want to

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<v Speaker 1>bully influencers because you hate them, sweet, but don't act

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<v Speaker 1>like you wouldn't all sit at home and try to

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<v Speaker 1>get a refund yourself. I don't think one of you commenting,

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<v Speaker 1>dming and harassing me would sit there and willingly give

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<v Speaker 1>up thousands of dollars for a service you didn't need,

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<v Speaker 1>especially after giving the business eight months notice to refund

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<v Speaker 1>you ridiculous now. Jade also posted a story which has

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<v Speaker 1>since been deleted, where she said that it had worked

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<v Speaker 1>out great for the business and they'd gotten a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of exposure. So for those interested, the Weekender Instagram started

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<v Speaker 1>out with around one thousand, seven hundred followers and now

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<v Speaker 1>has over seven thousand followers. They've also been flooded with

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<v Speaker 1>messages of support. I feel like this original follower account

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<v Speaker 1>puts things into perspective because I think people feel very

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<v Speaker 1>differently when an influencer calls out a large corporation like

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<v Speaker 1>Quantas as opposed to this small business that has clearly

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<v Speaker 1>struggled during the pandemic. I mean, we've had so many

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<v Speaker 1>tourism companies close over the last two years. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it was very tone deaf to do. So. It

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<v Speaker 1>was really interesting because I noticed that Clementine Ford left

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<v Speaker 1>a comment on celebs Spellcheck's post. She wrote, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand how someone with four hundred and eighty six thousand

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<v Speaker 1>followers so regularly has as little as thirty comments on

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<v Speaker 1>her post. Clementine's comment I got one four hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>four likes, and I really think that speaks volumes. I

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people in our Facebook community are

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<v Speaker 1>really confused by jar Day's following and how she manages

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<v Speaker 1>to partner with brands like Dior and Gucci all the time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I find the whole thing very confusing because it's quite

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<v Speaker 1>clear that Jarda is completely out of touch and really

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<v Speaker 1>not reading the tone of twenty twenty two or the

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<v Speaker 1>past couple of years, because she does post things that

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<v Speaker 1>are very inappropriate, and she also posts things a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the time with this smug sort of grin and

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of attitude that really rubs people up the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong way. And I have to say, of course, I

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<v Speaker 1>have sympathy for anyone who is planning a wedding during

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<v Speaker 1>the moment during a pandemic. It can be incredibly stressful

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously frustrating when you feel like you're not getting

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<v Speaker 1>the right sort of response back from a business. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, to most people, two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars is a lot of money to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the line, so I totally understand her frustration in wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to get an answer. However, I think that she hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>taken any of her privilege into consideration here. She is

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<v Speaker 1>a well paid influencer who often gets given free holidays

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<v Speaker 1>and free accommodation. I don't think too many people are

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<v Speaker 1>going to have sympathy for her blasting this small business online,

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<v Speaker 1>even if perhaps they were in the wrong for not

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<v Speaker 1>getting back to her. Well. I think it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>see an influencer like jarde who posts so regularly about

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<v Speaker 1>having luxury, high end new items, complaining about a two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars deposit, particularly when you consider how much she

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<v Speaker 1>would earn from one Instagram post and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>she knows how much companies will pay her to promote

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<v Speaker 1>their brand on her platform means that she completely understands

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<v Speaker 1>how damaging a negative post can be about a company.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really feel like it was a case of

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<v Speaker 1>punching down and then to say, oh, well, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>worked out well for them. I'm sorry. The only reason

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<v Speaker 1>they've got gay more followers is because everyone is so

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<v Speaker 1>outraged how disgusting your initial post was and how out

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<v Speaker 1>of it was that they feel incredibly sorry for this

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<v Speaker 1>small business. Now. I am really confused because Jarda said

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<v Speaker 1>that she booked the holiday in August twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>which is more than a year into the pandemic, and

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<v Speaker 1>by then we've all become aware of the importance of

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<v Speaker 1>reading the terms and conditions and also cancellation policies, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to wedding planning. Yeah, and from what

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<v Speaker 1>Jarda said, it appears the company refused to give her

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<v Speaker 1>a refund back in August twenty twenty one. Anyway, they

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<v Speaker 1>gave her the option that they could put the room

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<v Speaker 1>up to see if it got rebooked. It doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>like they actually agreed to give her a refund. And

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<v Speaker 1>for someone who is currently organizing a wedding, vendors and

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<v Speaker 1>tourism companies are really upfront at the moment with their

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<v Speaker 1>COVID policies and a lot of them are working special

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<v Speaker 1>COVID policies into it. So pre pandemic, if you had

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<v Speaker 1>booked a wedding, vendors were a little bit more flexible

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<v Speaker 1>with changing your date. However, due to COVID, they've lost

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<v Speaker 1>so much money, they've been losing deposits, they've been losing

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<v Speaker 1>revenue that they actually now will take your deposit if

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<v Speaker 1>they have to move the date because of COVID. And

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<v Speaker 1>while of course is really hard on the people planning

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<v Speaker 1>a wedding, it's something that we just need to accept

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<v Speaker 1>because otherwise there's a lot of companies that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to go under there's so many tourism and wedding companies

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<v Speaker 1>out there that literally cannot afford to change the date

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<v Speaker 1>of something like this. Yeah, definitely. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the real kicker is always the smug post afterwards, where

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<v Speaker 1>she's telling her followers that she's somehow won from the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>It just seems to be the same expression, and it

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<v Speaker 1>really gets under a lot of people's skin. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that it seemed like a calculated decision because

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<v Speaker 1>after she got what she wanted and she got the refund,

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<v Speaker 1>she then puts up a post to thank her followers,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just think, well, you clearly knew what you

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<v Speaker 1>were doing. You knew that this would damage the brand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very reminiscent of when Sarah's Day called out that

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<v Speaker 1>small brand Sabian Soul. I just think the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>came across as very entitled, particularly when the influencer industry

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been affected at all with the pandemic. If anything,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to have been bolstered. And for someone who

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<v Speaker 1>is a professional inla it seems bizarre to me that

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<v Speaker 1>jar Day, who earns money from her platform, would then

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<v Speaker 1>use it to air personal complaints against companies. It just

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<v Speaker 1>seems really unprofessional. It's actually interesting if you take a

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<v Speaker 1>look back at the start of the pandemic, because jar

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<v Speaker 1>Day was criticized for revealing that she had cut ties

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<v Speaker 1>with a number of companies and sponsors that she'd worked

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<v Speaker 1>with when she refused to reduce her fees during the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just think it's coming across as really tone deaf,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just must be really awkward for her to

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<v Speaker 1>look back at this all with hindsight. Yeah, it definitely is. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the drama hasn't stopped there, because on Friday, celeb Spellcheck

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<v Speaker 1>took another shot at jar Day. This time they unearthed

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<v Speaker 1>a screenshot from a review she shared to uber eats

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<v Speaker 1>in March twenty seventeen. The review read, I order off

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<v Speaker 1>you guys all the time, and I'm starting to find

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<v Speaker 1>it really annoying that you have so many non English

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<v Speaker 1>speaking delivery people who can't follow basic delivery instructions. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a notification today saying my food was arriving, and

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<v Speaker 1>it took the person a further twenty minutes to get

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<v Speaker 1>to my door because he couldn't read my delivery instructions properly.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I called him to explain he didn't understand

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<v Speaker 1>a word I was saying. Your GPS consistently sends drivers

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<v Speaker 1>to the wrong street, which I explained in my instructions,

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<v Speaker 1>which most people read and have no problem with. But

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<v Speaker 1>when foreigners are delivering, it takes twice as long for

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<v Speaker 1>me to receive my then cold food. Sort it out. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't the first time celeb'spelcheck has called jar Day

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<v Speaker 1>out for old racist Facebook comments. It's interesting to note

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<v Speaker 1>that celeb'spelcheck actually turned the comments off the post, which

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<v Speaker 1>may be in response to jar Day's original comments regarding

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<v Speaker 1>online bulling. And just on a side note, how great

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<v Speaker 1>is it that celeb'spelcheck is back. I feel like she's

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<v Speaker 1>raining in a lot of this stupid commentary that is

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<v Speaker 1>out online at the moment. I'm so happy she is back,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's very reminiscent of this time last year, because

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<v Speaker 1>this time last year, just before Australia Day slash Invasion Day,

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<v Speaker 1>celeb'spellcheck unearthed a bunch of racist comments that jar Day

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<v Speaker 1>had made, and they were from a lot longer. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to note that this comment she posted to

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<v Speaker 1>uber eats was written in March twenty seventeen, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that gives it a lot of context because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of influencers will hide behind the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>comment was written ten years ago. However, this is literally

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<v Speaker 1>not even four years ago. I saw some comments in

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<v Speaker 1>our Facebook group saying celeb spellchecks like the FBI uncovering

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<v Speaker 1>all of these comments because it was a comment left

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<v Speaker 1>from jar Day's Facebook account on uber Eats's page, So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there must be she must be spending a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time trawling through, or there must be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people in the wings who have these screenshots

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<v Speaker 1>and are ready to hit send on them. The thing

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<v Speaker 1>is for someone who has stalked a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>in the past on Facebook for different reasons. When you

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<v Speaker 1>are friends with someone, Oh, actually I think it depends

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<v Speaker 1>on their privacy setting, but if you type their name

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<v Speaker 1>of their account into the search bar, you can search

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<v Speaker 1>through like profiles, pictures. I think there was a review

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<v Speaker 1>option as well, because I actually have read some people's

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<v Speaker 1>reviews before, so it's actually not that hard to find.

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<v Speaker 1>But it makes me think that surely someone that knows

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<v Speaker 1>jar Day and his friends with her on Facebook is

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<v Speaker 1>feeding celeb spellcheck this information because the timing of it

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<v Speaker 1>is so interesting, the fact that celeb'spellcheck called her out,

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<v Speaker 1>then she shot back and called them bullies. This is

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<v Speaker 1>just the ace that celeb'spellcheck has pulled out. And it

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<v Speaker 1>is quite interesting because jar Day shared an apology later

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday, which read, I'm sorry to anyone I've hurt

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<v Speaker 1>with my comments. I hold myself accountable for my actions.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't excuse anything, but know that I have grown

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<v Speaker 1>immensely in the past several years. I also do my

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<v Speaker 1>best to be someone others can look up to, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know I've let people down and for that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>truly sorry. I find it interesting because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>every week we are dissecting influencers apologies, and for me,

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<v Speaker 1>she hasn't actually addressed what she's even talking about. So

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<v Speaker 1>for people who haven't seen the posts, they will have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what this is about. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>quite deliberate that she hasn't actually addressed what she's apologizing for.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Kate coming to you in the future. Since

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<v Speaker 1>we recorded, there have been a few interesting revelations in

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<v Speaker 1>the story that we wanted to update you guys on. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>the CEO and founder of weekender Pete Smith has come

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<v Speaker 1>out and made a statement about the incident to pedestrian.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, jar Day Tunci has definitely been a handful.

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<v Speaker 1>Jar Day booked a stunning home in Mirror Park in

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<v Speaker 1>July twenty twenty one, just as the second wave of

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<v Speaker 1>COVID had taken off. The cancelation terms and conditions were

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<v Speaker 1>fifty percent loss of deposit if canceled and one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent loss if canceled within fourteen days of arrival. We

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<v Speaker 1>feel the same t's and c's are fairly much industry standard,

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<v Speaker 1>fair and legal according to Fair Trading and the A

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<v Speaker 1>Triple C. The booking was for March twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>In August twenty twenty one, jar Day reached out to

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<v Speaker 1>us requesting that we cancel her booking, citing COVID, which

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<v Speaker 1>we thought was odd as it was eight months out.

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<v Speaker 1>My staff advised that jar Day was very demanding and threatening.

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<v Speaker 1>Her emails support this. I AM advised that she decided

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<v Speaker 1>to post on an Instagram account about this episode. Smith

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<v Speaker 1>then explained that he represents the property owners who wish

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<v Speaker 1>to give jar Day all have her money back due

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<v Speaker 1>to not wanting to deal with any significant reputation damage. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>a full refund was processed. Smith confirmed that the business

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<v Speaker 1>was forced to close due to COVID for three months

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty and four months in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>He said the only reason we stayed open was to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with the daily waves of people requesting cancelations due

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<v Speaker 1>to COVID. During those times, our costs remained, but the

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<v Speaker 1>business made no money. It has been very difficult for

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<v Speaker 1>the property owners. We represent, our staff and of course

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<v Speaker 1>our guests. Now in an amazing pr move by Weekender,

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<v Speaker 1>they shared an Instagram post announcing that they'd be gifting

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<v Speaker 1>the weekender jar Day would have booked at Mirror Park

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<v Speaker 1>Estate to a lucky follower. They wrote, if it's good

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<v Speaker 1>enough for jar Day, think how awesome this prize will

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<v Speaker 1>be for you and seven besties. They also thanked Jarday

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<v Speaker 1>for the new followers and confirmed that they had struggled

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<v Speaker 1>through twenty twenty one and didn't pay themselves between the

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<v Speaker 1>first of jo and the first of December. They wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>we believe in the power of influencers, but using a

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<v Speaker 1>following for personal gain at the loss and detriment to

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<v Speaker 1>another small business just isn't cool. As for jar Day,

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<v Speaker 1>she has now said her Instagram account to private and

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<v Speaker 1>is keeping a low profile. According to the Daily Telegraph,

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<v Speaker 1>a high profile publicist has alleged that jar Day has

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<v Speaker 1>been pulled from invite lists and brands are avoiding being

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<v Speaker 1>associated with her. One publicist also told the Daily Telegraph

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<v Speaker 1>that this could get her canceled. Jar Day even got

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<v Speaker 1>a roasting from fellow influencer Ruby Tuesday Matthews, who wrote

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<v Speaker 1>on an instant story sitting at home on a Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>sipping tea, watching the complete shit storm and influencer has

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<v Speaker 1>created yet again having a little and then she used

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<v Speaker 1>the gasp emoji. Trust me. I've had my fair share

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<v Speaker 1>of fuck ups, but it's called owning it. Ps sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>apologizing slash making good helps hashtag life lessons. And just

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<v Speaker 1>to wrap things up, a really awkward screenshot of jar

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<v Speaker 1>Day appearing in an Uber Eats ad has resurfaced. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder how Uber Eats feels about this partnership. In relation

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<v Speaker 1>to the review Jarde left was uncovered by celebspelcheck that's

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<v Speaker 1>me the betrothed.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I'm actually spoken for.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry. Yeah. Influencer paychecks are in the spotlight with the

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<v Speaker 1>Herald Sun recently reporting what they predict Beck Judd and

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<v Speaker 1>Nadia Bartel make for a single Instagram post. The newspapers

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<v Speaker 1>touted the earnings as staggering and eyewatering. But do the

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<v Speaker 1>predictions really scratch the surface of what influences are making?

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<v Speaker 1>So can you tell us more about this article? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the Herald Sun ran a story entitled how much Beck

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<v Speaker 1>and Nadia earned for Instagram posts? Now? The article explained

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<v Speaker 1>that they were the most cashed up Victorian influencers and

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<v Speaker 1>were raking in thousands of dollars for a single Instagram post.

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<v Speaker 1>The article then went on to explain that they believe

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<v Speaker 1>Bechjudd makes five five hundred for a post and Nadia

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<v Speaker 1>Bartel makes three thousand, eight hundred and thirty. Now, although

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<v Speaker 1>the average Herald Sun reader might be sitting at home

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<v Speaker 1>flicking through the paper and seeing that figure thinking it's

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<v Speaker 1>our astronomical I was actually surprised by that number, because, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, thousands of dollars for putting up a single

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram post in the scheme of things, is a huge amount.

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<v Speaker 1>But from my experience working in pr those amounts don't

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<v Speaker 1>scratch the surface of what influencers are actually making. Particularly

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<v Speaker 1>considering that Beck is close to cracking eight hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>followers and Nadia has over five hundred thousand followers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that those numbers are so off. When you

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<v Speaker 1>read that out, I was like, what I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard of influencers earning twenty thousand for a post. Or

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw the headline, I assumed that maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>journo had stumbled across Nadi or Beck's media kit. But

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<v Speaker 1>The Herald Sun was basing these estimates off a website

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<v Speaker 1>called Influencer Marketing Hub, And although the numbers seem a

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<v Speaker 1>bit off, this website is actually a really great tool

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<v Speaker 1>for anyone working in marketing or PR because it's got

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<v Speaker 1>some really good resources on how to spot fake influencers

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<v Speaker 1>and tracking online growth. So this site has an Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>money calculator and you basically type in the influencer's hen

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<v Speaker 1>and it estimates the earning made from a single post,

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<v Speaker 1>and it takes into consideration, obviously the number of followers

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<v Speaker 1>and also the level of engagement on a post. So

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<v Speaker 1>for those who aren't working in the industry, there isn't

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<v Speaker 1>really a hard and fast rule when it does come

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<v Speaker 1>to what influences charge because the sky really is the limit. However,

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<v Speaker 1>many management companies do loosely work around the philosophy that

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<v Speaker 1>every ten thousand followers it means you can charge one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars a post. So if you have one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand followers, generally people charge one thousand dollars a post.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have a million followers, you can charge

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand dollars a post. However, in reality, as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>they can really charge what they want, because I have

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<v Speaker 1>heard of some high profile influencers just doubling the numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>just charging what they like, because they say, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to align with me and my brand, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be way more than the average starts. I think

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<v Speaker 1>in the case of Nadia and Beck, another reason why

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<v Speaker 1>their amount would be way higher is the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they have their own brands, because it's not like they're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for some fast hit of gosh. They actually have

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<v Speaker 1>to think about who they align with and they can't

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<v Speaker 1>just align with anyone, so they would really be looking

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<v Speaker 1>for longer term partnerships and campaigns, and they have to

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<v Speaker 1>be brands that fit in with the esthetic and align

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<v Speaker 1>with their current brands. It's not just a cash grab.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the paper is suggesting, Oh I love my neighbor,

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<v Speaker 1>How am I gonna get married? Hanna, boyfriend of Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>and entrepreneur Mitch Third, has raised eyebrows for posting a

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<v Speaker 1>series of drunk Instagram stories whilst parting in Dubai. Now Kate,

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<v Speaker 1>For those who don't know, can you firstly give us

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<v Speaker 1>a quick recap on who Mitch Third is? So? As

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned in the intro, he is an entrepreneur who

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<v Speaker 1>runs drink bottle company Third Fix, and he gained a

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<v Speaker 1>following after dating influencer Tylia scains Now. The pair broke

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<v Speaker 1>up last year and since then he's been posting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of business related content on YouTube's about finding your

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<v Speaker 1>purpose and tips on starting a business. It's got a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a Gary v vibe I feel to it. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>While his ex Talia has six hundred and twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>thousand followers, Mitch just has Third eight thousand. Now, Sophie,

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<v Speaker 1>I have been following closely on Instagram this trip, but

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<v Speaker 1>can you fill in the listeners on what's been going

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<v Speaker 1>on because there's been a lot to talk about. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been some entertaining viewing. So Mitch jetted into Dubai a

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<v Speaker 1>week ago and shared a snap of him on the

0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:18.399
<v Speaker 1>balcony of his suite at the Shangri La Hotel. He wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you just have to say fuck. It still doesn't

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:24.159
<v Speaker 1>feel real that I'm here in Dubai. This place couldn't

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 1>be more about me if it tried. Now, Mitch's holidaying

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:30.080
<v Speaker 1>at the moment with his brother Robert Third, and it

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:32.880
<v Speaker 1>is clear that they're in Dubai to live the high life.

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:35.399
<v Speaker 1>So the brothers each hired a Ferrari to get around

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<v Speaker 1>the city in and they've been sharing content of themselves

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 1>hooning around in cars. And this really isn't surprising because

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Mitch often films himself whilst driving and has copped a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of criticism for that, and also famously filming himself

0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 1>driving through gyg. Now, in one of the Instagram stories,

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Mitch wrote that he's filming a blog of the trip

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 1>and it better go viral because they're almost going to

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<v Speaker 1>jail every day for the content they're capturing. He then

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<v Speaker 1>followed this up by sharing a video of his brother

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 1>absolutely hooning down the road and loudly honking the horn.

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 1>It looked like he was in some sort of car race.

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 1>He was literally going that quickly. He then shared another

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:16.120
<v Speaker 1>video showing his brother doing donuts in the Ferrari. Now,

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Mitch was filming this on his phone whilst also driving

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<v Speaker 1>in the car as he was trying to catch up

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<v Speaker 1>to his brother. So it's all very alarming that this

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<v Speaker 1>is going on. It's very unsafe, and I really hate

0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:30.119
<v Speaker 1>the fact that it's almost encouraging his followers to carry

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:33.159
<v Speaker 1>out this sort of dangerous behavior. Now, things got worse

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 1>when Mitch started sharing his drunken antiques from the night.

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:41.399
<v Speaker 1>So he captured the first Instagram story lit three point zero,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was calling himself the King of Dubai in

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>these clips. I feel like I can't give them enough

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 1>justice because I don't think I've ever seen someone that

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:53.000
<v Speaker 1>drunk on Instagram. So let's play a recording of what

0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 1>he said.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, is this thirty three three point zero?

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Baby? Fuck? Oh I'm properly what a do let wait?

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Fuck it last? Hey, I'm Lina, babe, No trust me.

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I got so much on bro.

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Like king, I have my fuck me.

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I've got so much content.

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:27.959
<v Speaker 3>Fuck I'm lit Why I got so much content? Comment?

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<v Speaker 3>You're waye fuck to leave me.

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm fun now. I'm personally feeling a lot of secondhand

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 1>embarrassment listening back to that clip. It kind of reminds

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>me of the sort of stories that you'd privately snapchat

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 1>your friends when you're out drinking, but you'd never post

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:47.880
<v Speaker 1>to your Instagram, particularly when you have thirty eight thousand followers.

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 1>And I also thought with that sort of content, you

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.119
<v Speaker 1>might take it down the next morning when you wake up,

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>but he has kept all of them up. Well, this

0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>isn't the first time he's got drunk on his Instagram story,

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:01.439
<v Speaker 1>but when he was actually on the Gold Coast and

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<v Speaker 1>did this, probably a couple of weeks ago, he did

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<v Speaker 1>delete the story and people kept asking him to put

0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:08.360
<v Speaker 1>it back up, but he said no. And in that

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:11.120
<v Speaker 1>story he had used the sea word. However, he did

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 1>use the sea word in these stories, but kept it up. Yeah,

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 1>And I just feel like the videos really scream of

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:21.199
<v Speaker 1>someone who's gotten out of a long term relationship and

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>they're kind of reverting back to their early twenties self

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 1>and pretending to have the best time ever when they're

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 1>probably secretly really heartbroken. Now, in another Instagram story, he

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 1>calls a weight gay for the way, he popped open

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>a bottle of champagne as he then proceeded to slug

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>out of it. He then showed himself as a passenger

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:42.880
<v Speaker 1>in a car I believe to be a taxi where

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<v Speaker 1>the driver is playing Middle Eastern music.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what he says, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Loved. I feel like he's almost a walking meme of

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<v Speaker 1>what you'd expect some Gold Coast guy to be like

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.719
<v Speaker 1>on holidays, you know when you I mean, I remember

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>visiting Malaysia and I would get secondhand embarrassment from overhearing

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 1>how some of the Australians spoke to the locals there,

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like this has got that sort of vibe.

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just think how would people have reacted

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>if a well known female influencer had posted these types

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>of videos. Because you've got him being homophobic, there's also

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:33.160
<v Speaker 1>videos of him being quite sleazy towards women and being

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>quite disrespectful. I just think that this would have got

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of attention. I mean, we've just spoken about

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>how Jardey's posts got slammed by a celeb's belcheck. I

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 1>just think there are different rules for women on Instagram. Oh,

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I completely agree. I think that if a female had

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<v Speaker 1>acted in this way, their behavior would be under the

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 1>microscope and perhaps reported on in the press. I do

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>think the fact that he only has thirty eight thousand

0:27:55.840 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>followers and is relatively unknown in the mainstream perhaps be why.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but even the way he shows off his possessions,

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<v Speaker 1>like if a woman was doing that. I mean, a

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, as I said, don't like how jar

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Day shows off her designer goods, which are clearly gifted.

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 1>However Mitch makes it appear. And I do think he

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>has earned this money himself from his company to be

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 1>fair so to female influencers. Yeah, but I'm just saying

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>that Jarde gets a lot of gifted designer items that

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.159
<v Speaker 1>she shows off, But while Mitch may have paid for

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>these items, it does come across as a bit show offy,

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and I just think female influencer couldn't get away with

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>splashing their cash in the way he is, particularly in Dubai.

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it seems like he really cares about his image,

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>considering that they're hiring Ferraris to drive around in whilst

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>they're there. Well, it was really strange because the next day,

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>as I said, he didn't remove these stories from his Instagram.

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>He instead posted a photo of himself on his feed

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.959
<v Speaker 1>looking down at his phone standing in front of a helicopter,

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>very flexy sort of post. He wrote, this is me

0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>checking my phone and about to vomit after last night's stories.

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Well bless up, homies. You're only in Dubai for your

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>first time once, and a follower wrote underneath, I mean

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it could have been A friend said damn, I missed them,

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and he replied saying I'll make a highlight reel and

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>did a laughing face now. He then proceeded to back

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>up the drunk antics the next night and posted them

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:21.239
<v Speaker 1>all to Instagram's story again. So we see him in

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>the post saying I can't wait for my anxiety in

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the morning, Yes sir. He then showed himself partying with

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 1>a very attractive brunette, and he proceeded to cheers her

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 1>and then said I love my neighbors. We're going to

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>get married. And I really wonder whether Talia saw this

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 1>post and just thought, wow, I've dodged a bullet here,

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>or whether she was a little bit upset about it. Look,

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I think anyone when they see their ex carrying on

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>and trying to show off that we're there with girls

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>would have an element of not really being happy with it.

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>But again, as you said, it seems like she's dodged

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>a bullet with the way he's acting, and it seems

0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>very different to the way he's portrayed himself online pre

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 1>because when he was dating Tarlia, as you said, he

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>was very much the boyfriend of Instagram. He seemed very

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>very likable. Yeah, he was portrayed as a very likable,

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>kind boyfriend that people would envy. And now you're seeing

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>this side of him. Of course, he's singles, so he's

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>allowed to be doing that, but it's just very funny

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 1>to see this side of him on social media, right

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 1>vodka whiskying a load of Crenda month. When she sees

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>you after this, she'll be cropping at the gash. Are

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 1>you sure my dad won't notice that? He'll never tell

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I think he might. As his whiskey nowadays of apple juice.

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<v Speaker 1>We thought this week we would share with you some

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 1>recommendations of what we've been watching on YouTube and also

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>on streaming platforms, because I know a lot of people

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>are probably struggling to find stuff to watch, and I

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>have gone a little bit old school and gone back

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>to watch the first and second series of the Real

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Housewives of Melbourne, and I feel really nostalgic watching it

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>because I actually was living in Melbourne when it came out,

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and I remember being excited about seeing spots that I

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>had been to and getting ideas of where to go.

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I have just been loving it. I forgot how good

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>the first season is, particularly with Andrea and Lydia fighting

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 1>against Gina. It's just absolute gold. Oh they never should

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>have got rid of Andrea, but I feel like Andrea

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>was very strategic and was smart enough to realize that

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>she was being cast as somewhat of a villain and

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't want that to affect her skincare brand or clinic,

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 1>which is called Liberty Bell. And it's actually quite amusing

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of influencers now go to Liberty Bell

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and it is a very successful brand. So I wonder

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>what would have happened if she'd stayed on the show. Well,

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I think she should have stayed on the show for

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>at least another season to have a bit of a redemption,

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>because I remember the first couple of series, Gina was

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>put on a pedestal and everyone loved her, but then

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.959
<v Speaker 1>some Cracks appeared later down the track and she got

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 1>a little bit egotistic. I mean, I still love her,

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>but no, it's been great watching it back and even

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 1>though I think it was first filmed around twenty thirteen fourteen,

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's actually getting quite dated now looking back at it,

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Like there's a few scenes it's almost ten years ago,

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I suppose, but there's a few scenes where I'm like, wow,

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't be allowed to do that anymore, or they

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have said that. So what have you been watching

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>so well, I've actually discovered a new UK influencer to watch,

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and as most people know, I do have a real

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>soft spot for watching viral food trend videos. So this

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>girl is called Steph Joshi and her YouTube handle is

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Nutty Foody Fitness. So she has three hundred and eighteen

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 1>thousand followers on Instagram and she looks like your typical

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>fitness influencer, but she creates these viral food challenges and

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I just find them so relaxing to watch because I

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's that whole mookbunk element because you almost

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>feel like you're getting to enjoy the food but you're

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 1>not getting to eat it. And I came across her

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>because she did a collaboration with one of my other

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>favorite YouTuber, Saffron Baker, and I tried eating Kylie Jennet

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and Courtney Kardashian's food for a day. And what I

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>really liked about Steph is she has sort of a

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>refreshing attitude towards food because she's happy to just sit

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:04.480
<v Speaker 1>there and tuck into a fat burrito. And she does

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>all these other challenges like burrito It reminded me of

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you if anything, and she well, because I don't know,

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 1>we all love burritos. And she also does these twenty

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>four challenges where she eats chocolate for a whole day,

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>or she eats Christmas food or the ten K challenge.

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are a lot of dated challenges, but

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I just find it super relaxing to watch. It's my

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>version of trash TV, where you just switch off and

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 1>just enjoy the crap that's on there. It makes me

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>too hungry, though, especially when i'm watching McDonald's m buns

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>or challenges. I just it's particularly because I watch them

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>late at night and I just get so hungry. Oh

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>my god. On that theme, I have another recommendation, but

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>it's not what we've it's what we've consumed food wise.

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 1>So Brandon bought them the other night. They called it

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>top Deck Bites, and I've never seen them before. They

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 1>are kind of like Easter eggs, but they've got but

0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>they're not East egs, they're not wrapped. They are bloody delicious.

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>They are these like chocolate balls and then they've got

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the top Deck inside. Oh my god, do yourself a favor,

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>get some of them. Well, I think that's all we

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:10.560
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