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Speaker 1: This is Outspoken, the podcast it's not afraid to say

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Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy, Kate and

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Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have

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Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers

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Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women.

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Speaker 2: That is so fat.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Happy Monday, and welcome back to Outspoken. Now

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Speaker 1: it's just Sophie and Kate here today because Amy and

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Speaker 1: Daye are actually in Mount Gambia celebrating their anniversary. Very

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Speaker 1: romantic getaway. I wouldn't put Mount Gambia on the top

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Speaker 1: of my list, you know, Paris, but they are going

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Speaker 1: scuba diving there. I think that's why they've chosen the destination.

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Speaker 1: It did make me laugh because growing up, Sophie and

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Speaker 1: I in particular hate dunking our heads in the pool.

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Speaker 2: It's a mixture of.

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Speaker 1: Not wanting to look gross and get water in my eyes,

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Speaker 1: but then also Sophie pea's in the pool. So I

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Speaker 1: have been known to piss in the ball as an adult.

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Speaker 1: I feel like now I'm in my thirties, I don't

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Speaker 1: piss in the pool anymore. But yeah, it was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've evolved. So we're not talking about pissing in the

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Speaker 1: pool today as part of our general chat, we're actually

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Speaker 1: going to be talking about bedtime routines and sleeping positions.

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Speaker 1: And it sounds like we're about to talk about children,

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Speaker 1: but we're talking about ourselves. And it really surprised me, Kate,

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Speaker 1: because we were chatting to our best friend on the

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Speaker 1: weekend and you revealed to all of us that you

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Speaker 1: and Reese fall asleep hugging one another. See, I've got

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Speaker 1: to clear that up because I actually don't fall asleep

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Speaker 1: in this position. I just like being hugged. Reese will

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Speaker 1: fall asleep and then after a while I'll get too hot,

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Speaker 1: so I'll kind of push away and get sleep sort

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Speaker 1: of on my side. What about you, because you said

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Speaker 1: that Archie has changed everything for you and Brandon. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: we used to have, like when we first started going out,

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Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a cuddle and then

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Speaker 1: they'd be sort of rolling to your separate sides. But

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Speaker 1: we don't really even get that cuddle in anymore because

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Speaker 1: our dog, Archie, he whimpers whenever we show one another

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Speaker 1: any sort of affection in front of him, and he

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Speaker 1: literally sleeps right in the middle of our bed, so

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Speaker 1: we can't even really touch one another. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: getting quite crowded. I think we'll need to get at

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Speaker 1: the king sized bed soon. The other thing is, I'm

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Speaker 1: in a really bad habit at the moment. So I'll

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Speaker 1: say good night to Brandon, he'll roll over go to sleep,

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Speaker 1: and I will stay on my phone for probably an

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Speaker 1: hour to two hours later, scrolling and looking at wedding venues.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just in a really bad pattern at the

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Speaker 1: moment that I just can't seem to break. And to

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Speaker 1: make it worse, since we've all gone back to work,

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Speaker 1: Brandon is now listening to rain music that relaxes him.

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Speaker 1: And this is needing, and this is making me need

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Speaker 1: to go to the toilet constantly. Well, I mean, and

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Speaker 1: for anyone again who knows us, we always need to

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Speaker 1: go to the toilet all the time, So I feel

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Speaker 1: like that is a big issue if that's making you

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Speaker 1: need to go more than usual. I'm just so intrigued

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Speaker 1: to hear how people sleep, because our best friend was

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Speaker 1: saying that her partner will go to bed before for

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Speaker 1: to watch some sort of television or one of her

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Speaker 1: favorite shows before going to sleep, so she will sleep

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Speaker 1: to work that out in my head. I don't actually

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Speaker 1: still know the logistics of that. I kind of nodded along,

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Speaker 1: I really didn't. So when we probably need to chat

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Speaker 1: after this, I would love tonight we'll put a thread

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Speaker 1: in our Facebook community. How do you fall asleep next

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Speaker 1: to your partner? What sort of position do you get in?

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Speaker 1: Do you go to bed at the same time. I'm

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're in bed, she's over on your side cuddling.

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Speaker 3: Now you wait for her to drift off, and then

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Speaker 3: you hug her and roll her over to her side

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Speaker 1: Role for you. Ja Dae Tunci has been slammed for

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Speaker 1: calling out a tourism business for refusing to give her

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Speaker 1: accused of trying to bully the small business into submission. Kate,

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Speaker 1: what happened so back in August last year, jar Day

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Speaker 1: says she tried to cancel her Hunter Valley honeymoon after

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Speaker 1: making the decision to postpone her wedding due to COVID,

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Speaker 1: so she and her partner at Lockie had put down

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Speaker 1: Weekender Now. On Tuesday, jar Day shared a story asking

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Speaker 1: her followers if they knew anyone at Quantus. She complained

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Speaker 1: tagged the weekend to Holiday Company and put them on blast.

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Speaker 1: She explained that eight months earlier she had requested a

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Speaker 1: refund due to the pandemic, but apparently the best the

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Speaker 1: company could do was put the room back up online

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Speaker 1: to be booked by someone else. She then said she'd

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Speaker 1: months to refund us for a booking we don't need.

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Speaker 1: They're taking our money just because they can. It's just

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Speaker 1: incredibly poor form and so disappointing that businesses are taking

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Speaker 1: advantage of people in the middle of a pandemic. She

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Speaker 1: then posted a photo of her rolling her eyes with

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Speaker 1: the caption not your following them. Later on, she then

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Speaker 1: posted a photo of her smiling with the caption they've

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Speaker 1: agreed to refund us for our stay. Thank you guys

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Speaker 1: for your help. She then added a love heart emoji now,

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Speaker 1: much to everyone's delight. Celeb Spellcheck then popped out of hibernation,

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Speaker 1: sharing a screenshot of jar Day's story with the caption

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Speaker 1: congratulations on not reading the terms and conditions, then using

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Speaker 1: your following to bully a small business into giving you

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Speaker 1: a refund with the clapping hands emoji now. Jar Day

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Speaker 1: ended up deleting the original stories, but hit back, sharing

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Speaker 1: the following statement on her Instagram story. She wrote, I

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Speaker 1: am every bit entitled to request a refund from a

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Speaker 1: business that's charging me to two thousand dollars for accommodation.

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Speaker 1: I don't need I gave them eight months notice. Eight months.

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Speaker 1: Lots of people have had to reschedule their wedding since

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Speaker 1: the middle of the pandemic, and of rightfully received refunds.

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Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with supporting small businesses. If

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Speaker 1: businesses for services you don't need and won't use, that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see all of your receipts. They're

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Speaker 1: not a charity, though, so I'm not doing that. Stay safe, y'all,

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Speaker 1: it's wild out there. She then continued by saying, I'm

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Speaker 1: so incredibly sick and tired of this foul page encouraging

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Speaker 1: bullying and harassment towards influences just because they can. We

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Speaker 1: are human beings. I emailed the business on multiple occasions

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Speaker 1: trying to sort the refund out, and unfortunately posting about

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Speaker 1: it was the last resort. If you guys want to

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Speaker 1: bully influencers because you hate them, sweet, but don't act

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Speaker 1: like you wouldn't all sit at home and try to

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Speaker 1: get a refund yourself. I don't think one of you commenting,

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Speaker 1: dming and harassing me would sit there and willingly give

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Speaker 1: especially after giving the business eight months notice to refund

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Speaker 1: you ridiculous now. Jade also posted a story which has

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Speaker 1: since been deleted, where she said that it had worked

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Speaker 1: of exposure. So for those interested, the Weekender Instagram started

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Speaker 1: puts things into perspective because I think people feel very

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Speaker 1: differently when an influencer calls out a large corporation like

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Speaker 1: Quantas as opposed to this small business that has clearly

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Speaker 1: struggled during the pandemic. I mean, we've had so many

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Speaker 1: tourism companies close over the last two years. I feel

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Speaker 1: like it was very tone deaf to do. So. It

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Speaker 1: was really interesting because I noticed that Clementine Ford left

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Speaker 1: a comment on celebs Spellcheck's post. She wrote, I don't

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Speaker 1: understand how someone with four hundred and eighty six thousand

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Speaker 1: her post. Clementine's comment I got one four hundred and

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Speaker 1: really confused by jar Day's following and how she manages

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Speaker 1: clear that Jarda is completely out of touch and really

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Speaker 1: past couple of years, because she does post things that

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Speaker 1: have sympathy for anyone who is planning a wedding during

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Speaker 1: and obviously frustrating when you feel like you're not getting

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, to most people, two

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Speaker 1: to get an answer. However, I think that she hasn't

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Speaker 1: taken any of her privilege into consideration here. She is

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Speaker 1: going to have sympathy for her blasting this small business online,

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Speaker 1: even if perhaps they were in the wrong for not

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Speaker 1: getting back to her. Well. I think it's hard to

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Speaker 1: see an influencer like jarde who posts so regularly about

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Speaker 1: their brand on her platform means that she completely understands

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Speaker 1: how damaging a negative post can be about a company.

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Speaker 1: And I really feel like it was a case of

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Speaker 1: punching down and then to say, oh, well, it's all

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Speaker 1: worked out well for them. I'm sorry. The only reason

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Speaker 1: they've got gay more followers is because everyone is so

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Speaker 1: outraged how disgusting your initial post was and how out

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Speaker 1: of it was that they feel incredibly sorry for this

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Speaker 1: small business. Now. I am really confused because Jarda said

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Speaker 1: that she booked the holiday in August twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: which is more than a year into the pandemic, and

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Speaker 1: by then we've all become aware of the importance of

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Speaker 1: reading the terms and conditions and also cancellation policies, particularly

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Speaker 1: when it comes to wedding planning. Yeah, and from what

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Speaker 1: Jarda said, it appears the company refused to give her

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Speaker 1: a refund back in August twenty twenty one. Anyway, they

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Speaker 1: up to see if it got rebooked. It doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: for someone who is currently organizing a wedding, vendors and

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Speaker 1: tourism companies are really upfront at the moment with their

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Speaker 1: COVID policies and a lot of them are working special

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Speaker 1: COVID policies into it. So pre pandemic, if you had

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Speaker 1: with changing your date. However, due to COVID, they've lost

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Speaker 1: so much money, they've been losing deposits, they've been losing

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Speaker 1: while of course is really hard on the people planning

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Speaker 1: a wedding, it's something that we just need to accept

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Speaker 1: just align with anyone, so they would really be looking

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Speaker 1: for longer term partnerships and campaigns, and they have to

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Speaker 1: be brands that fit in with the esthetic and align

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Speaker 1: with their current brands. It's not just a cash grab.

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Speaker 1: Like the paper is suggesting, Oh I love my neighbor,

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Speaker 1: How am I gonna get married? Hanna, boyfriend of Instagram

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Speaker 1: and entrepreneur Mitch Third, has raised eyebrows for posting a

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Speaker 1: series of drunk Instagram stories whilst parting in Dubai. Now Kate,

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Speaker 1: For those who don't know, can you firstly give us

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Speaker 1: a quick recap on who Mitch Third is? So? As

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Speaker 1: you mentioned in the intro, he is an entrepreneur who

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Speaker 1: runs drink bottle company Third Fix, and he gained a

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Speaker 1: following after dating influencer Tylia scains Now. The pair broke

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Speaker 1: up last year and since then he's been posting a

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Speaker 1: lot of business related content on YouTube's about finding your

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Speaker 1: purpose and tips on starting a business. It's got a

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Speaker 1: bit of a Gary v vibe I feel to it. Now.

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Speaker 1: While his ex Talia has six hundred and twenty six

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Speaker 1: thousand followers, Mitch just has Third eight thousand. Now, Sophie,

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Speaker 1: I have been following closely on Instagram this trip, but

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Speaker 1: can you fill in the listeners on what's been going

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Speaker 1: on because there's been a lot to talk about. It's

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Speaker 1: been some entertaining viewing. So Mitch jetted into Dubai a

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Speaker 1: week ago and shared a snap of him on the

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Speaker 1: balcony of his suite at the Shangri La Hotel. He wrote,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you just have to say fuck. It still doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel real that I'm here in Dubai. This place couldn't

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Speaker 1: be more about me if it tried. Now, Mitch's holidaying

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Speaker 1: at the moment with his brother Robert Third, and it

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Speaker 1: is clear that they're in Dubai to live the high life.

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Speaker 1: So the brothers each hired a Ferrari to get around

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Speaker 1: the city in and they've been sharing content of themselves

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Speaker 1: hooning around in cars. And this really isn't surprising because

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Speaker 1: Mitch often films himself whilst driving and has copped a

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Speaker 1: lot of criticism for that, and also famously filming himself

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Speaker 1: driving through gyg. Now, in one of the Instagram stories,

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Speaker 1: Mitch wrote that he's filming a blog of the trip

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Speaker 1: and it better go viral because they're almost going to

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Speaker 1: jail every day for the content they're capturing. He then

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Speaker 1: followed this up by sharing a video of his brother

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Speaker 1: absolutely hooning down the road and loudly honking the horn.

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Speaker 1: It looked like he was in some sort of car race.

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Speaker 1: He was literally going that quickly. He then shared another

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Speaker 1: video showing his brother doing donuts in the Ferrari. Now,

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Speaker 1: Mitch was filming this on his phone whilst also driving

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Speaker 1: in the car as he was trying to catch up

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Speaker 1: to his brother. So it's all very alarming that this

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Speaker 1: is going on. It's very unsafe, and I really hate

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Speaker 1: the fact that it's almost encouraging his followers to carry

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Speaker 1: out this sort of dangerous behavior. Now, things got worse

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Speaker 1: when Mitch started sharing his drunken antiques from the night.

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Speaker 1: So he captured the first Instagram story lit three point zero,

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Speaker 1: and he was calling himself the King of Dubai in

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Speaker 1: these clips. I feel like I can't give them enough

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Speaker 1: justice because I don't think I've ever seen someone that

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Speaker 1: drunk on Instagram. So let's play a recording of what

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Speaker 1: he said.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, is this thirty three three point zero?

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Speaker 1: Baby? Fuck? Oh I'm properly what a do let wait?

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Speaker 1: Fuck it last? Hey, I'm Lina, babe, No trust me.

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Speaker 1: I got so much on bro.

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Speaker 3: Like king, I have my fuck me.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I've got so much content.

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Speaker 3: Fuck I'm lit Why I got so much content? Comment?

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Speaker 3: You're waye fuck to leave me.

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Speaker 1: I'm fun now. I'm personally feeling a lot of secondhand

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Speaker 1: embarrassment listening back to that clip. It kind of reminds

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Speaker 1: me of the sort of stories that you'd privately snapchat

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Speaker 1: your friends when you're out drinking, but you'd never post

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Speaker 1: to your Instagram, particularly when you have thirty eight thousand followers.

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Speaker 1: And I also thought with that sort of content, you

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Speaker 1: might take it down the next morning when you wake up,

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Speaker 1: but he has kept all of them up. Well, this

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00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: isn't the first time he's got drunk on his Instagram story,

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Speaker 1: but when he was actually on the Gold Coast and

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Speaker 1: did this, probably a couple of weeks ago, he did

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Speaker 1: delete the story and people kept asking him to put

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Speaker 1: it back up, but he said no. And in that

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00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: story he had used the sea word. However, he did

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00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: use the sea word in these stories, but kept it up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I just feel like the videos really scream of

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Speaker 1: someone who's gotten out of a long term relationship and

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Speaker 1: they're kind of reverting back to their early twenties self

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Speaker 1: and pretending to have the best time ever when they're

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Speaker 1: probably secretly really heartbroken. Now, in another Instagram story, he

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Speaker 1: calls a weight gay for the way, he popped open

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Speaker 1: a bottle of champagne as he then proceeded to slug

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Speaker 1: out of it. He then showed himself as a passenger

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Speaker 1: in a car I believe to be a taxi where

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Speaker 1: the driver is playing Middle Eastern music.

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Speaker 2: Here's what he says, I.

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Speaker 1: Loved. I feel like he's almost a walking meme of

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Speaker 1: what you'd expect some Gold Coast guy to be like

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00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,719
Speaker 1: on holidays, you know when you I mean, I remember

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Speaker 1: visiting Malaysia and I would get secondhand embarrassment from overhearing

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Speaker 1: how some of the Australians spoke to the locals there,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like this has got that sort of vibe.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just think how would people have reacted

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Speaker 1: if a well known female influencer had posted these types

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Speaker 1: of videos. Because you've got him being homophobic, there's also

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Speaker 1: videos of him being quite sleazy towards women and being

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Speaker 1: quite disrespectful. I just think that this would have got

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Speaker 1: a lot of attention. I mean, we've just spoken about

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Speaker 1: how Jardey's posts got slammed by a celeb's belcheck. I

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Speaker 1: just think there are different rules for women on Instagram. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I completely agree. I think that if a female had

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Speaker 1: acted in this way, their behavior would be under the

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Speaker 1: microscope and perhaps reported on in the press. I do

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Speaker 1: think the fact that he only has thirty eight thousand

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Speaker 1: followers and is relatively unknown in the mainstream perhaps be why.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but even the way he shows off his possessions,

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Speaker 1: like if a woman was doing that. I mean, a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, as I said, don't like how jar

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Speaker 1: Day shows off her designer goods, which are clearly gifted.

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Speaker 1: However Mitch makes it appear. And I do think he

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Speaker 1: has earned this money himself from his company to be

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Speaker 1: fair so to female influencers. Yeah, but I'm just saying

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00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: that Jarde gets a lot of gifted designer items that

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Speaker 1: she shows off, But while Mitch may have paid for

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Speaker 1: these items, it does come across as a bit show offy,

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Speaker 1: and I just think female influencer couldn't get away with

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00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: splashing their cash in the way he is, particularly in Dubai.

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00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like he really cares about his image,

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Speaker 1: considering that they're hiring Ferraris to drive around in whilst

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Speaker 1: they're there. Well, it was really strange because the next day,

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Speaker 1: as I said, he didn't remove these stories from his Instagram.

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Speaker 1: He instead posted a photo of himself on his feed

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Speaker 1: looking down at his phone standing in front of a helicopter,

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00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: very flexy sort of post. He wrote, this is me

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Speaker 1: checking my phone and about to vomit after last night's stories.

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Speaker 1: Well bless up, homies. You're only in Dubai for your

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00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: first time once, and a follower wrote underneath, I mean

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00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: it could have been A friend said damn, I missed them,

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00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: and he replied saying I'll make a highlight reel and

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00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: did a laughing face now. He then proceeded to back

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Speaker 1: up the drunk antics the next night and posted them

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00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 1: all to Instagram's story again. So we see him in

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Speaker 1: the post saying I can't wait for my anxiety in

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Speaker 1: the morning, Yes sir. He then showed himself partying with

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Speaker 1: a very attractive brunette, and he proceeded to cheers her

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Speaker 1: and then said I love my neighbors. We're going to

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Speaker 1: get married. And I really wonder whether Talia saw this

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Speaker 1: post and just thought, wow, I've dodged a bullet here,

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Speaker 1: or whether she was a little bit upset about it. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think anyone when they see their ex carrying on

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00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: and trying to show off that we're there with girls

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Speaker 1: would have an element of not really being happy with it.

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Speaker 1: But again, as you said, it seems like she's dodged

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Speaker 1: a bullet with the way he's acting, and it seems

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Speaker 1: very different to the way he's portrayed himself online pre

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Speaker 1: because when he was dating Tarlia, as you said, he

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00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: was very much the boyfriend of Instagram. He seemed very

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Speaker 1: very likable. Yeah, he was portrayed as a very likable,

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Speaker 1: kind boyfriend that people would envy. And now you're seeing

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Speaker 1: this side of him. Of course, he's singles, so he's

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Speaker 1: allowed to be doing that, but it's just very funny

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Speaker 1: to see this side of him on social media, right

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00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: vodka whiskying a load of Crenda month. When she sees

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Speaker 1: you after this, she'll be cropping at the gash. Are

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Speaker 1: you sure my dad won't notice that? He'll never tell

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Speaker 1: I think he might. As his whiskey nowadays of apple juice.

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Speaker 1: We thought this week we would share with you some

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Speaker 1: recommendations of what we've been watching on YouTube and also

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Speaker 1: on streaming platforms, because I know a lot of people

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00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: are probably struggling to find stuff to watch, and I

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00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: have gone a little bit old school and gone back

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Speaker 1: to watch the first and second series of the Real

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Speaker 1: Housewives of Melbourne, and I feel really nostalgic watching it

599
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: because I actually was living in Melbourne when it came out,

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00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: and I remember being excited about seeing spots that I

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00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: had been to and getting ideas of where to go.

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00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: I have just been loving it. I forgot how good

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00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: the first season is, particularly with Andrea and Lydia fighting

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00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: against Gina. It's just absolute gold. Oh they never should

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00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: have got rid of Andrea, but I feel like Andrea

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00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: was very strategic and was smart enough to realize that

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00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: she was being cast as somewhat of a villain and

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Speaker 1: didn't want that to affect her skincare brand or clinic,

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Speaker 1: which is called Liberty Bell. And it's actually quite amusing

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00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: because a lot of influencers now go to Liberty Bell

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00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: and it is a very successful brand. So I wonder

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Speaker 1: what would have happened if she'd stayed on the show. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think she should have stayed on the show for

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Speaker 1: at least another season to have a bit of a redemption,

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Speaker 1: because I remember the first couple of series, Gina was

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00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: put on a pedestal and everyone loved her, but then

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00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 1: some Cracks appeared later down the track and she got

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Speaker 1: a little bit egotistic. I mean, I still love her,

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Speaker 1: but no, it's been great watching it back and even

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Speaker 1: though I think it was first filmed around twenty thirteen fourteen,

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Speaker 1: but it's actually getting quite dated now looking back at it,

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Speaker 1: Like there's a few scenes it's almost ten years ago,

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Speaker 1: I suppose, but there's a few scenes where I'm like, wow,

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00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be allowed to do that anymore, or they

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00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: shouldn't have said that. So what have you been watching

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00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: so well, I've actually discovered a new UK influencer to watch,

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00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: and as most people know, I do have a real

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00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: soft spot for watching viral food trend videos. So this

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00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: girl is called Steph Joshi and her YouTube handle is

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Speaker 1: Nutty Foody Fitness. So she has three hundred and eighteen

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Speaker 1: thousand followers on Instagram and she looks like your typical

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Speaker 1: fitness influencer, but she creates these viral food challenges and

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00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: I just find them so relaxing to watch because I

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00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: feel like it's that whole mookbunk element because you almost

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Speaker 1: feel like you're getting to enjoy the food but you're

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Speaker 1: not getting to eat it. And I came across her

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00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: because she did a collaboration with one of my other

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00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: favorite YouTuber, Saffron Baker, and I tried eating Kylie Jennet

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00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: and Courtney Kardashian's food for a day. And what I

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00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: really liked about Steph is she has sort of a

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00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: refreshing attitude towards food because she's happy to just sit

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00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: there and tuck into a fat burrito. And she does

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00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: all these other challenges like burrito It reminded me of

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Speaker 1: you if anything, and she well, because I don't know,

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Speaker 1: we all love burritos. And she also does these twenty

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Speaker 1: four challenges where she eats chocolate for a whole day,

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Speaker 1: or she eats Christmas food or the ten K challenge.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of dated challenges, but

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Speaker 1: I just find it super relaxing to watch. It's my

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Speaker 1: version of trash TV, where you just switch off and

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Speaker 1: just enjoy the crap that's on there. It makes me

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Speaker 1: too hungry, though, especially when i'm watching McDonald's m buns

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Speaker 1: or challenges. I just it's particularly because I watch them

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Speaker 1: late at night and I just get so hungry. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god. On that theme, I have another recommendation, but

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Speaker 1: it's not what we've it's what we've consumed food wise.

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Speaker 1: So Brandon bought them the other night. They called it

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Speaker 1: top Deck Bites, and I've never seen them before. They

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Speaker 1: are kind of like Easter eggs, but they've got but

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Speaker 1: they're not East egs, they're not wrapped. They are bloody delicious.

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Speaker 1: They are these like chocolate balls and then they've got

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Speaker 1: the top Deck inside. Oh my god, do yourself a favor,

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Speaker 1: get some of them. Well, I think that's all we

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