1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation. In Australia, our much loved 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: David Kosh is stepping down from. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 2: His years role, going to be the new man. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: In England, there's a morning breakfast duo called Holly and 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: phil Schofield and they host a morning program on British television. 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: We spoke about this on the show yesterday. So the 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: fates of Philip Schofield have have really waxed and waned. 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: I think they've waned more than waxed in recent weeks. 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: Just to tell you the story so far. Philip decided 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: to step down from the show when it was revealed. 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: First of all, let's just say he was married for 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: a number of years thirty years. He comes out as 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: gay on the show and his co host Holly says, 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: isn't that wonderful? You're so brave watching this? Isn't he brave? 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: And that's fine. They lost no viewership through that because 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: people supported him and his decision to live his authentic self. 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: There are now rumors that maybe he was forced to 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: do that because they were going to out the fact 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: that he was having an affair with a male staff member. 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: He has said that. 21 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: A younger man a lot younger man. 22 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: That's right, and the male staff member he met. When 23 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: the younger man was fifteen, phil got him a job 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: on the show. He claims, however, he didn't have a 25 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: sexual relationship with him until the man was twenty. He said, 26 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: there was no grooming, there was nothing illegal. It might 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: have been inappropriate, yes, I accept that, but it was 28 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: not illegal. In the meantime, the fact that he's had 29 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 1: this relationship with this staff member, this young man, seems 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: to have thrown everyone into a huge tears at the 31 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: same time, and I think this is what's muddying the waters. 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: Philip's brother was in court and has been charged as 33 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: a sex of a child sex offender and is in prison. 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: Philip has said Philip appeared went to the court every 35 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: day while his brother was there. But he says, I 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: feel like I don't have a brother this ruling. When 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: I found out what he did, he's no longer a 38 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: brother to me. And he didn't tell his co host 39 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: about this. Well, that's not the rumor. I don't know. 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: Their friendship started to they were slightly estranged and was 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: getting very uncomfortable. Then with this story came out that 42 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: he was having an affair with this younger man, all 43 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: hell broke loose. He resigned from the job on Breakfast TV. 44 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: He also was asked to leave by the entire network. 45 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: He was also going to host other shows. They've said no. 46 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: He was sacked by his management team because he told lies. 47 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: They must have asked him to his face, did you 48 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: have an affair with this man? And he said no. 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: Today is the first and he did an interview on 50 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: the weekend saying he's actually pretty much suicidal. He's lost 51 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: everything and if his daughters weren't supporting him, he would 52 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: have killed himself. So that's made everyone think, or a 53 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: couple of people have come out and said, well, unless 54 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: the young man himself said he was groomed and the 55 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: sex occurred illegally when he was under age. So he 56 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: hasn't said anything. No, he has said nothing. What more 57 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: is there to this story? This morning or overnight, Holly, 58 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: his co host, has made an impassioned plea to the audience, 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: and it went a little bit like. 60 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: This, Hi beer, good morning, Josie, thank you for being here, 61 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: thank you right deep breath? Firstly a year okay, I hope. 62 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: So it feels very strange, indeed, sitting here without phil 63 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: and I imagine that you might have been feeling a 64 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: lot like I have, shaken, troubled, let down, worried for 65 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: the wellbeing of people on all sides of what's been 66 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: going on, and full of questions. You, me, and all 67 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: of us at this morning gave our love and support 68 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: to someone who was not telling the truth, who acted 69 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: in a way that they themselves felt though they had 70 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: to resign from ITV and step down from a career 71 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: that they loved. That is a lot to process, and 72 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: it's equally hard to see the toll that it's taken 73 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: on their own mental health. I think what unites us 74 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: all now is a desire to heal for the health 75 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: and wellbeing of everyone. I hope that as we start 76 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: this new chapter and get back to place of warmth 77 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: and magic that this show holds for all of us, 78 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: we can find strength in each other. And from a heart, 79 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: can I just say thank you for all of your 80 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: kind messages and thank you for being here this morning. Myself, 81 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: Josie Derma, Alison Craig, and every single person that works 82 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,559 Speaker 2: on this show will continue to work hard every single 83 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: day to bring you to this show that we love. 84 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 2: So On that note, Josie, thank you. 85 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: What's going on? If he had an affear, which he's 86 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: admitted to, a consensual, legal, but inappropriate affear, why is 87 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: she saying he lied to us? All? She asked him 88 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: if he was maybe, she asked him, might you having 89 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: an affair with this coworker? He said no. Is that 90 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: a reason for them all to act like he is 91 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: his brother? Is it more to this story? Because unless 92 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: that young man himself says I was groomed, this is 93 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: such an overreaction. What do you think? 94 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: Maybe he's a bit of a dick at work and 95 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: I just wanted to get rid of him. 96 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: Well, then that's a different thing too, But to make 97 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: it he lied to us? Therefore, are you saying to 98 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: the audience are you okay? Like they've been like this 99 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: has happened in their own lives. I think I'm going 100 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: to be okay. I think I'm going to be okay. 101 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: I think the audience is actually okay, okay, okay. Jim 102 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: y Rye, are you okay? That's completely about something else? 103 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: An intriguing case. If Moore comes to hand, we'll let 104 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: you know