Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload the podcast last week Airline.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to TV Reload. My name is Benjamin.
Speaker 1: Norris, and on this podcast I go behind the scenes
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Speaker 1: and casting agents, plus the talent that we see on
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Speaker 1: television industry and our streaming services today. On the podcast,
Speaker 1: I have two guests who have already been eliminated from
Speaker 1: Channel ten's new reality show The Challenge. I have David
Speaker 1: Sabritski and Cyclone.
Speaker 2: Cyril.
Speaker 1: David is a born reality TV star, gaining attention as
Speaker 1: the non celebrity in I'm a Celebrity, Get Me out
Speaker 1: of Here. He has been in the media spotlight ever since,
Speaker 1: winning over the country with his fun and gregarious personality.
Speaker 1: Cyrel is known for her wild antison married at first Sight,
Speaker 1: and since twenty nineteen, she's also remained in the spotlight,
Speaker 1: even balancing her new role as mum with former Love
Speaker 1: Island star Eden Dally. Probably one of the show's most
Speaker 1: anticipated contributors with her reputation.
Speaker 2: For her hot headed drama.
Speaker 1: I will ask David about his roots in the UK
Speaker 1: and if he wants to crack the market overseas. We
Speaker 1: will also discuss all the magic behind his famous siblings
Speaker 1: and what reality TV format he would definitely say no to.
Speaker 1: Then stick around for Cyrel as she talks about her
Speaker 1: hot headed behavior on the Challenge, why the majority of
Speaker 1: her competitors didn't quite click with her, and both guests
Speaker 1: will answer some rapid fire questions. That's going to give
Speaker 1: you some burning hot tea. However, let's get started with
Speaker 1: today's guests. I'd like to welcome David Sabritski and Syrel
Speaker 1: from The Challenge Australia to TV Reload.
Speaker 3: Mom literally popped us out and said, you know what,
Speaker 3: don't take life too seriously. Have a good time. Previously
Speaker 3: on the Challenge Australia.
Speaker 4: I actually think he enjoyed being a villain.
Speaker 3: David threw me under the bus and like, what you
Speaker 3: put out is what you're gonna get back. I ate
Speaker 3: a bloody pig Zanus on National TV, Like who knows
Speaker 3: what's next?
Speaker 1: The message for Cyrel is that she'd better be ready
Speaker 1: because I'm going to win this next challenge and I'm
Speaker 1: shooting the shots straight at it.
Speaker 4: It's just the type of industry that I'm telling you, it's.
Speaker 3: So fake, David Zrell.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately your time on the challenge is over.
Speaker 3: I did actually get a little kit and was it
Speaker 3: just yesterday saying that I.
Speaker 2: Was wee Hi, David, how are you hello?
Speaker 3: I'm good, Thank you, my love? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing so well? You know, so well done on
Speaker 1: this show? You were so fantastic. Has it been enjoyable
Speaker 1: for you to watch it back?
Speaker 3: It has been enjoyable. There's definitely more snakes in the
Speaker 3: challenge house than there was in that I'm a celebrity,
Speaker 3: get me out of her jungle. So it's been interesting
Speaker 3: to watch it back and see what people are saying
Speaker 3: behind you back.
Speaker 2: That's what reality TV is.
Speaker 1: Though back in the day, they would film it and
Speaker 1: would be live and so you could have the choice
Speaker 1: of not really watching it. Where with these shows these days,
Speaker 1: you know you've filmed this in Argentina and now you
Speaker 1: get the chance to watch it back. Is it stressful?
Speaker 1: And it hasn't changed your relationship with some of the
Speaker 1: people that you had inside that experience.
Speaker 3: If anything, it's probably brought me stronger with people. I
Speaker 3: understand that, you know, things get said in the heat
Speaker 3: of the moment. I did actually get a little bit
Speaker 3: of annoysy just yesterday saying that I was wee. She thought
Speaker 3: that I was a weak partner to have yet alone.
Speaker 3: She was the one that lost was the challenge, which
Speaker 3: you didn't see. She chose the wrong number, which prolonged
Speaker 3: the time, so we had to go back and she
Speaker 3: kept getting stuck in the mud and then she couldn't
Speaker 3: even reach the tires at the pole, so I was
Speaker 3: doing a two man job.
Speaker 1: Well, I thought that you handled that while to Freddie
Speaker 1: situation really well, watching your face and I could see
Speaker 1: that you were loathing the fact that you were partnered
Speaker 1: up with her, but you were doing your best. And
Speaker 1: then you sat down with her and just said, look,
Speaker 1: let's put it in a box, put it to the side.
Speaker 1: And I thought that was very mature of you.
Speaker 3: And I was having a giggle to myself because I
Speaker 3: was sat there with my wine. Let's have a chat, Jess.
Speaker 1: Sobritzky's do their best magic is with a glass of
Speaker 1: wine in the hand so great.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. It's interesting to me.
Speaker 1: But did you pick up any tactics from watching Big
Speaker 1: Brother when your sister was on there? Obviously for people
Speaker 1: playing at home, your sister is Lailah Sabritsky, But did
Speaker 1: you watch the show because he was so young and
Speaker 1: did that influence you at all?
Speaker 3: Not at all, not from watching the show. I feel
Speaker 3: like watching how Lala navigated post show, I think it
Speaker 3: was probably helpful seeing how she handled herself. But when
Speaker 3: it comes to the show, you know, they're completely different experiences.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like when you guys did Big Brother.
Speaker 3: It's completely different now and it's nothing like the challenge.
Speaker 3: Obviously there's some aspects the same, but going on to
Speaker 3: Big Brother when you guys did was just go and
Speaker 3: hanging out and showing you personality, whereas you know, it's
Speaker 3: challenge based and it's like Survivor. It's like the Hunger
Speaker 3: Games essentially, so you have to be going in there
Speaker 3: with some sort of tactic and be clever about it,
Speaker 3: which I obviously was not.
Speaker 1: Well, I just felt really responsible and I was like
Speaker 1: when I could see you starting some vis and then
Speaker 1: putting them out, I was like, God, hopefully it hasn't
Speaker 1: learned that from me, you.
Speaker 3: Know what, I that was an edit, but like I
Speaker 3: did not lie, kNN of did say that on the books.
Speaker 3: It just wasn't ad because it was off camera when
Speaker 3: he said it, which was, you know, kind of annoying
Speaker 3: because it made me out as if I was some
Speaker 3: you know, liar, which I'm not spreading rumors. Well it's
Speaker 3: not a rumor, spreading the truth.
Speaker 1: Okay, So really quickly, I just want to know what
Speaker 1: is it about you and the Sabritski family. I still
Speaker 1: think you need to be keeping up with the Subritzky's.
Speaker 1: I think you all need your own show.
Speaker 3: I just think, you know, we got the love and
Speaker 3: support from our parents. We grew up in Lancashire in
Speaker 3: the UK, where you know, we're friendly, we are open
Speaker 3: to everyone. We're all about having a good time, you know,
Speaker 3: living life, but having fun whatever you do and making
Speaker 3: sure that you laugh and making light of every situation,
Speaker 3: don't take life too seriously.
Speaker 2: I think it's it's amazing. I think it's an amazing
Speaker 2: mantra to have.
Speaker 1: And I think your parents, both Dawn and Peter, is
Speaker 1: so lovely and so they're very lucky to have you three?
Speaker 4: What is what?
Speaker 1: Had Leilah always called you gremlins?
Speaker 3: Like yeah, Mum literally popped us out and said, you
Speaker 3: know what, don't take life too seriously, have a good
Speaker 3: time and party on.
Speaker 1: How are you doing with all of this sudden fame,
Speaker 1: because after doing I'm a Celebrity, there's just been so
Speaker 1: much interest in you. Has it been overwhelming or has
Speaker 1: this just been a part of your journey, like it's
Speaker 1: this is how it's always supposed to be.
Speaker 3: I think that because there wasn't many streamers when Laila
Speaker 3: did Big Brother. It was kind kind of strange because
Speaker 3: when I was sixteen years old, there was there was
Speaker 3: a lot of attention on Layla, but it kind of trickled. No.
Speaker 3: I remember that I was like sixteen and there was
Speaker 3: like a fun page of this you know this girl
Speaker 3: used to like draw pictures and stuff of me when
Speaker 3: I was like sixteen. So I don't know. I feel
Speaker 3: like being around Laila when she was on Big Brother
Speaker 3: prepared me for it in a way. But this year
Speaker 3: has been crazy. I opened twenty twenty two when I'm
Speaker 3: a celebn. Now I've closed twenty twenty two with the challenge,
Speaker 3: so it's I don't know. I'm I'm grateful for the
Speaker 3: opportunity that Channel ten have given me, and it's been
Speaker 3: such a fun wild ride and I was just wait
Speaker 3: to be you know, taking Carrie Bickmore's position on the project, you.
Speaker 2: Know you deserve it.
Speaker 1: What did you want people to see in this show
Speaker 1: that was different that you might not have shown us
Speaker 1: in I'm a Celebrity. Were you thinking, oh, I want
Speaker 1: them to see me a little bit differently, or are
Speaker 1: you wanting.
Speaker 2: To add to it?
Speaker 3: Not at all. I'm honestly, I'm at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, I'm just going to be myself regardless of
Speaker 3: whatever show I'm on. The one thing about me is
Speaker 3: when I did I'm a celeb is I'm not a celebrity.
Speaker 3: I don't have a brand and an image to uphold,
Speaker 3: like I'm so unfiltered and raw and honest. I think
Speaker 3: that's why you know, me and Brooke had a disagreement
Speaker 3: because anything I'm saying behind you back, I'm going to
Speaker 3: come and say straight to your face. Honestly, I'm just
Speaker 3: me at the end of the day, and I'm not
Speaker 3: going to change with whatever you know experiences are going on.
Speaker 3: I'm still going to try and remain as authentic as possible.
Speaker 1: Some people might have been watching that moment with Brooklyn
Speaker 1: being like, oh god, this is really awkward. Bro I
Speaker 1: just was like, No, this is David being David. He's
Speaker 1: just telling her how it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're crying every day and you're struggling with this,
Speaker 3: Like the social aspect of the show is such a
Speaker 3: huge part of the show and if you're struggling with that,
Speaker 3: then pack you back, Spabe, go hold.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get into this really quickly because I
Speaker 1: have such a limited time with you. But you know,
Speaker 1: coming to Australia, did you feel like a fish out
Speaker 1: of water? And do you think you know some of
Speaker 1: the magic of you has been the whole English boy
Speaker 1: being here in Australia and absorbing the culture.
Speaker 3: Who knows, I honestly don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 3: I love Australia so much. This is my home and
Speaker 3: I've been here for eleven years now. I came here
Speaker 3: when I was sixteen, so the majority of my adult
Speaker 3: life has been here. So it's weird when I look
Speaker 3: back at being fifteen prior living in the UK, I
Speaker 3: feel like it's just a completely different life. Now it's
Speaker 3: a different chapter that has been close for a long time.
Speaker 3: So maybe yes, I sound like a sat Nav and
Speaker 3: I like, I don't think I've lost my accent too much,
Speaker 3: So maybe that is why I can probably get away
Speaker 3: with saying a few things that are a little bit,
Speaker 3: you know, naughty.
Speaker 2: I think it's the word is.
Speaker 3: In approach and a little bit shading, kind of get
Speaker 3: away with it in a way because they're like, ah, you.
Speaker 2: Know, do you think that we will lose you back
Speaker 2: to the UK?
Speaker 1: Like, do you think that after experiencing this sudden found
Speaker 1: fame and realizing that you are made for television, is
Speaker 1: there a part of you that would want to take
Speaker 1: that and see if you could crack the UK market?
Speaker 3: You know what I always say, you never know what's
Speaker 3: around the corner, and I am a human of the world.
Speaker 3: I've been here for eleven years, but within those eleven years,
Speaker 3: I've lived in the Bissid, I've lived in Berlin, I've
Speaker 3: lived in New Zealand. Majority of my time has been
Speaker 3: based on the Gold Coast, but I've also lived in Melbourne.
Speaker 3: I love Sydney. I'm honestly a gypsy, So who knows
Speaker 3: As long as you're having fun wherever you're living. Home
Speaker 3: is where the heart is. Home is the pino noir is.
Speaker 2: What is your oyster? My friend?
Speaker 1: I can tell you, but don't know where you get
Speaker 1: your energy from. But it's a beautiful it's a beautiful
Speaker 1: talent to have.
Speaker 3: You know what, It's called an almond dirty charlante.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm asking around these five questions really quickly.
Speaker 1: Don't go into too much detail. We just need them
Speaker 1: like rapid fire. Okay, so are you ready?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who was the nicest contestant in your experience?
Speaker 3: Emily sea Bomb is my best die from Imus the
Speaker 3: Lab and I love Emily.
Speaker 2: Who was the biggest villain?
Speaker 3: Jessica Brody was definitely the biggest villain, sneaky girl.
Speaker 2: Who was the messiest person to live with?
Speaker 3: Oh, the messiest person to live with was definitely Grant
Speaker 3: because all you did was fart and they were very
Speaker 3: small spaces to live in.
Speaker 2: It's all those protein shakes. Maybe. Who was the funniest person?
Speaker 3: The funniest person was definitely Cyril. I love just how
Speaker 3: aggressive she gets.
Speaker 1: I love it that she's She's also another person who's
Speaker 1: just made for television. She can't help but be that person.
Speaker 1: She can't be anyone else but herself, which I love
Speaker 1: about people who do you want to win? Like when
Speaker 1: you left the competition, not what you know now and
Speaker 1: not what you think is going to happen, but who
Speaker 1: did you want to win?
Speaker 3: I'm always going to have my girl Emily bombs back.
Speaker 3: I want her to win so bad. She's you know,
Speaker 3: she's been such an amazing friend to me. She's helped
Speaker 3: me through a lot this past year, so you know,
Speaker 3: I hope she takes the way the crown.
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, some of the people that you're in the
Speaker 1: show with have been leaking stuff to the media and
Speaker 1: I know their names, but two girls in particular have
Speaker 1: been leaking stuff to the media and saying Emily is
Speaker 1: the biggest villain inside the house, that she's the hardest
Speaker 1: person to live with.
Speaker 2: And I've met her. She's lovely, She's my cup of tea?
Speaker 2: Is it? Why do you think people would consider her
Speaker 2: to be a villain?
Speaker 3: You know what, Emily is the queen of the rest
Speaker 3: in bitchface. And if you don't know her, and if
Speaker 3: she doesn't know you, she's, you know, could be standoffish.
Speaker 3: But if you give her a chance, and you get
Speaker 3: to know her, you would realize that she's one of
Speaker 3: the most genuine friends to have and she'll have you
Speaker 3: back through anything.
Speaker 1: David, I'm obsessed with you. I can't wait to see
Speaker 1: you on the next show. I feel like whoever's been
Speaker 1: watching this, whoever's watching time a celebrity is already planning, plotting,
Speaker 1: and scheming to put you on their show. Is there
Speaker 1: anything you want to do? Like, is there a show
Speaker 1: that you that you think is out there? I actually
Speaker 1: once said this to someone on the podcast, and then
Speaker 1: they got cast in the show, So I feel like
Speaker 1: we're real We'll put it in the universe. But is
Speaker 1: there any other show that you'd like to be on?
Speaker 3: You know what? Just no cooking shows because I'm terrible
Speaker 3: at cooking unless I'm putting a new foods in that
Speaker 3: who knows. Honestly, I say yes to everything, you know.
Speaker 3: I ate a bloody Pigzanus on National TV, like who
Speaker 3: Knows What's Next, Tracy Grimshaw's job, jog on Trace.
Speaker 1: Oh, you'd be great at that Current Affair with David Sabriski. David,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time and for being
Speaker 1: on the podcast. I absolutely adore you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Bad.
Speaker 1: Some interesting insights from David Sabritski. I honestly love his
Speaker 1: energy and I think he did a fantastic job on
Speaker 1: the series. But stick around for cyclone. Cyrel as we
Speaker 1: go behind the scenes on her time on The Challenge Australia.
Speaker 2: Hi, Cyrel, how are you? It's great to have this
Speaker 2: chat with you.
Speaker 4: Hey, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm really well. What was the experience of the Challenge
Speaker 2: like for you?
Speaker 4: It was a lot of drama and unfortunately I was eliminated,
Speaker 4: But you know what, all in all, absolutely no regrets.
Speaker 2: So you're glad that you did it.
Speaker 1: So when they rang you up and asked you to
Speaker 1: do this show, you've said yes, You've taken part and
Speaker 1: looking back, it was a good experience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a good experience. I mean a few
Speaker 4: bad moments, all in all, it wasn't too bad yet. No,
Speaker 4: I definitely yet. No, I'll want a regretted bowl and
Speaker 4: I'll probably do it again.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe they'll do a season two and they'll just
Speaker 2: bring you back. They need you and.
Speaker 4: Nevern know so I can't Cyrel returns.
Speaker 1: How funny was it that Briany said that you were
Speaker 1: favorite contestant this season. I was wondering did that stir
Speaker 1: up any drama amongst the fellow contestants on the show.
Speaker 4: I love that she went and sorry they went and
Speaker 4: said that, because you know, I was there and I
Speaker 4: could see everyone like sucking up, just trying to make
Speaker 4: you know, Briany that I love him, and I'm just
Speaker 4: like looking at him.
Speaker 3: What a suckerss you know?
Speaker 4: And no, I'm so happy. That's why I had to
Speaker 4: I had to repost it on my Instagram without sucking ass.
Speaker 4: I was still the favorite.
Speaker 1: They do a very good job of hosting this show.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine anyone else but Briany doing this.
Speaker 4: I've never said this to Briany, but the first time
Speaker 4: I met them, I was like intimidated, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, And I don't get intimidated by anyone, but
Speaker 4: then you were my mom. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: so my type of person.
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you.
Speaker 1: Did the produce uses try to set you up to
Speaker 1: be like Cyclone Cyrel Like, obviously we are familiar with
Speaker 1: your brand and we remember some iconic moments for Merritit
Speaker 1: first sight. So when you get picked to do a
Speaker 1: job like this. Maybe the producers are like, you know,
Speaker 1: can you give us the cyclone sarrel?
Speaker 2: What did they say to you? Do they just let
Speaker 2: you be yourself?
Speaker 4: For It's just not personality, No, honestly, it had nothing
Speaker 4: to do there. It's just what people would do. It
Speaker 4: would just genuinely piss me off, you know. And I've
Speaker 4: always been re opinionated, loudmouth even and very outspoken, so
Speaker 4: I would say it if people need to be called out.
Speaker 2: People love you for it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's great television when it comes to conflict, though,
Speaker 1: you kind of do go from zero to one hundred
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. I just wanted to know where did you
Speaker 1: learn your crisis management from.
Speaker 4: I don't even know. I just I feel like I'd
Speaker 4: like to say, you know, it's being the youngest of
Speaker 4: seven kids. But I even that, I don't think is
Speaker 4: the reason if it looksyclone sorrow and I look I
Speaker 4: own up to it. What I just don't get is
Speaker 4: why people think I'm always so aggressive, so angry, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, just don't piss me off, and then
Speaker 4: you won't get it smikee Clone Sorrow.
Speaker 2: Exactly. It's on them. It's on them.
Speaker 1: What did you, what did you learn about yourself from
Speaker 1: being on the challenge?
Speaker 5: I learned to, like, truthfully, I just learned that I
Speaker 5: to just stay to being true to who I am.
Speaker 5: Not a lot of people are going to like it
Speaker 5: once again, you know, like coming out like you know people.
Speaker 4: Obviously it's still like, oh she's still that andr girl.
Speaker 4: Being as a mother would change it. But I'm like, look,
Speaker 4: if you can't accept me from me, I really don't
Speaker 4: care because last time I checked, I'm living for myself
Speaker 4: and not for anybody else. So I'm only here to
Speaker 4: please make you got to.
Speaker 2: Pay your bills somehow.
Speaker 1: I was wondering when the casting was slowly being announced
Speaker 1: and we heard that you were joining the show from Maths.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, did you think that they
Speaker 1: were to put anyone else from Maths in the series
Speaker 1: with you?
Speaker 2: Were you surprised that there wasn't someone there?
Speaker 4: No, I actually knew that someone wasn't going to be there. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: and thank goodness, no, so look there's going to be
Speaker 4: you know what she said, But he said, but so
Speaker 4: obviously her version was you know, they last minute doctor,
Speaker 4: Thank god? Who knows? I want to DoPT her too, but.
Speaker 6: I also heard from a very reliable sources as soon
Speaker 6: as she had found out that I was going to
Speaker 6: be there, she didn't.
Speaker 4: Want to be there. I think someone's still a little
Speaker 4: scared of just wipe. I don't wait with they. Yeah,
Speaker 4: look at your mouth dropped. You're like in the shock.
Speaker 4: No I can say. I mean we do share the
Speaker 4: same management, don't forget that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not easy to keep a secret when you've
Speaker 1: got the same management because surely you're going to get
Speaker 1: that some intel.
Speaker 4: Oh so I like tonight if I'm going to be
Speaker 4: surrounded with that, Like, give me a warning.
Speaker 1: Do you think that this show being the Challenge Australia
Speaker 1: or Maths Like? Which one of those is worse for
Speaker 1: conflict bubbling up to the surface.
Speaker 4: Look, I swear to it's both like it. It's different
Speaker 4: kinds of conflicts. You you know what I mean. But
Speaker 4: to be honest, I had to say I really did
Speaker 4: not like the Challenge. Surprised me because I thought I've
Speaker 4: left all the snakes behind in mass But look at
Speaker 4: that they happened to be on the Challenge too, So
Speaker 4: I wasn't expecting that much rama, But it actually ended
Speaker 4: up being.
Speaker 3: Just as big.
Speaker 2: It's the type of people that you're going to put
Speaker 2: on these shows.
Speaker 1: Like, if you're the sort of person that's going to
Speaker 1: go on a reality TV show, you're not exactly a wallflower,
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 4: I know? And I think, really I want to say
Speaker 4: it now, they did not like me. They all hated.
Speaker 4: I think they're cheering that that said she's finally got
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, you just know. But like I said,
Speaker 4: I see you speak at the grinie. I know they
Speaker 4: don't like me, but I don't care.
Speaker 2: It's got to be you, babe, just got to be you.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of you know, contestants that have
Speaker 1: been ejected from the competition so far, and all of
Speaker 1: them have been saying that Connor was a huge problem
Speaker 1: for them. What is it about Connor that rubs people
Speaker 1: the wrong way?
Speaker 4: Because it's a shifty little weasel, so like he that's it.
Speaker 4: But because he is very connoying, like he knows, he's
Speaker 4: very manipulative. He kind of used like playing a victim,
Speaker 4: kind of like being you know, like he's sweet and
Speaker 4: I'm just like and I didn't realize that he wasn't
Speaker 4: just scrambling eggs. He was scrambling my brain and you know,
Speaker 4: manipulating it. But yeah, now he is a shift he
Speaker 4: wants he's just annoying, and to be honest, I actually
Speaker 4: think he enjoyed being a villain. I think he didn't
Speaker 4: want to be known as you know, just frying on
Speaker 4: bleets in the morning anymore and just wanted to be
Speaker 4: known as Connor the villain rather than Connor from Mastershef.
Speaker 4: So I think he played that up a bit.
Speaker 2: It kind of surprised me.
Speaker 1: I was like, someone from Master Chef on a show
Speaker 1: that's going to sure to have conflict.
Speaker 2: I was like, he's on the wrong show.
Speaker 1: And then when he turned up, I was like, oh no, oh, no,
Speaker 1: the producers knew what they were doing.
Speaker 2: He's a shitting well.
Speaker 4: He knew what he was doing. He knew what he
Speaker 4: was doing, And yeah, I think he wanted to play
Speaker 4: the villain.
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting there's a lot of people discussing
Speaker 1: a lot of your fellow contestants discussing the word manipulation
Speaker 1: and toying with the idea of lying. Do you think
Speaker 1: in reality TV that manipulation works in the long run.
Speaker 5: I think even in real life with reality TV stars
Speaker 5: everyone's manipulative. It's just the type of industry that I'm
Speaker 5: telling you, it's so vake.
Speaker 4: Honestly, you'll meet a lot of fake ass people. So
Speaker 4: I think the challenge and picking those reality starts just
Speaker 4: working out perfectly.
Speaker 1: Did you think that the team ups were a little
Speaker 1: unfair at times, as it seems like one person would
Speaker 1: be more targeted and the other would bite the dust
Speaker 1: just by association. Do you think that the fact that
Speaker 1: you know you're up for elimination with a partner every time,
Speaker 1: do you think that's fair?
Speaker 4: It's sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. Some people waited.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you that my name popped up with another person.
Speaker 4: I knew they were.
Speaker 1: Dreading again, I want to know that, Like, do you
Speaker 1: do you form a bond with your tail? Like you know,
Speaker 1: you get partnered up with this person and everyone kind
Speaker 1: of looks like, Hi, I'll give you a hut o. Hi, Hey,
Speaker 1: going your my new partner. But do you do you
Speaker 1: build a strong relationship with them because you are so
Speaker 1: pitted together? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I found like me and Jack were in
Speaker 4: the first challenge together and I've just connected with him.
Speaker 4: We've got a bond. Now do we had a great friendship. Yes,
Speaker 4: there's some people like I mean, I still talked to
Speaker 4: Johnny too, you know, like, yeah, you do create a relationship.
Speaker 4: But one of my best ones was with Jack. I
Speaker 4: love him.
Speaker 1: I thought that Johnny was nice last night though, you know,
Speaker 1: I thought it was nice. He said was lovely.
Speaker 4: He was lovely. But also, you know, I think he
Speaker 4: did not like me until we did get partnered up together,
Speaker 4: because you had to remember, like they were all in
Speaker 4: their own circles. So I think him at the time,
Speaker 4: being friends with Grant, you probably thought it was I
Speaker 4: told you I knew they all hated me and then,
Speaker 4: but it wasn't until you know, like you said, when
Speaker 4: you're one one and you want to hang out with
Speaker 4: me a bit. I think he was a bit like,
Speaker 4: you know what, she's not that bad.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're looking back and reflecting over your
Speaker 1: time on the show, what do you think your biggest
Speaker 1: mistake was, Like, what do you think there was the
Speaker 1: catalyst for your exit?
Speaker 4: My biggest mistake was probably that I didn't tell of
Speaker 4: everyone as much as I wanted to. I actually, you
Speaker 4: know what, to be honest, I probably even hesitated a
Speaker 4: little bit and pulde it down.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I also think I've just noticed today I was reading
Speaker 1: the Entertainment Bible being the Daily Mail, you know, and
Speaker 1: it was so funny. There's so much leaked from this show.
Speaker 1: I mean, this show has the most amount of leaks
Speaker 1: in reality TV history. Does that say something about the
Speaker 1: type of people that they cast? And do you think
Speaker 1: that people have been leaking stuff to the Daily Mail?
Speaker 3: Of course, one.
Speaker 4: Hundred percent, one hundred percent it's someone from the show.
Speaker 4: I could probably narrow it down who I think it is,
Speaker 4: but I look get them in trouble. Yeah, no, one
Speaker 4: hundred percent. You and you couldn't trust me. It doesn't
Speaker 4: take genius to realize who's sold the story.
Speaker 1: There needs to be like a contract that's out there
Speaker 1: that's like, if you leak anything and we can prove it,
Speaker 1: then you, you know, have to pay some million dollars.
Speaker 2: I don't know, they should be sued.
Speaker 4: And something like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you and I but then I don't know,
Speaker 6: can't talk too much and it, but yeah, I think.
Speaker 4: What I said, it's just for that extra cash or something.
Speaker 4: So if that happens, you're right.
Speaker 1: They would have bought it in I don't reckon the
Speaker 1: Daily Mail's even paying that much money for it. I'd
Speaker 1: be like, here, have two hundred dollars. How about you
Speaker 1: ruin everyone's experience of the show? How amazing? Go by
Speaker 1: yourself a fucking cheeseburger? Anyway, that's not even enough for
Speaker 1: a good night out?
Speaker 2: Like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 1: So? Well? I want to ask everyone's getting the top
Speaker 1: five questions? Just some rapid fire answers. You don't need
Speaker 1: to go too far into it and throw yourself under
Speaker 1: the bus. You can if you like, are you ready
Speaker 1: for okay?
Speaker 2: Great? So do I?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 2: Top five questions? Are you ready? Who was the nicest contestant?
Speaker 4: Jack?
Speaker 2: Who was the biggest villain?
Speaker 4: Billy dev No, Billy dead, Grant and Connor and.
Speaker 2: Jessica at one point, okay, all of them? Okay great?
Speaker 2: Who was the messiest person to live with?
Speaker 4: Messy? I wouldn't say Benny. I was bunking in their room,
Speaker 4: but I remember walking past and it's spunk like legit
Speaker 4: stunk and the producers even had to tell them, could
Speaker 4: you please clean your room? But it was the boys room, Grant,
Speaker 4: Ryan and Johnny and it was probably from Graham. I mean,
Speaker 4: let's be honest, think.
Speaker 1: You pick who was the funniest, Who was the funniest
Speaker 1: person in your time on the show.
Speaker 4: I've always cracked up with Jack or David. But David
Speaker 4: is like his brain and my brain. We just kind
Speaker 4: of have the same sense of humor. It can be
Speaker 4: kind of bad sometimes, but you know, I love it.
Speaker 3: It's my type of.
Speaker 4: Sense of humor.
Speaker 2: I gotta love him. He's amazing.
Speaker 4: I love him. You would love him, honest to go.
Speaker 2: Last question I have is who do you want to win?
Speaker 2: Not what you know? And kind of going back like
Speaker 2: who do you want to win?
Speaker 4: Okay? So if I had to put on from you know,
Speaker 4: it would be for the girls, Emily and for the
Speaker 4: guys anybody, but granted.
Speaker 2: Upon us, Okay, everyone else? Okay, Brandon, Conor, You're out.
Speaker 2: Everybody else.
Speaker 4: I really don't care. Does not face me, just not
Speaker 4: those two?
Speaker 2: Have you one followed them on Instagram?
Speaker 4: Connor actually sent me a friend request, a follow request,
Speaker 4: but I just I couldn't want I didn't know how
Speaker 4: he was going to deal with once he heard me.
Speaker 4: You know, bitch, You know, I just didn't want to
Speaker 4: be two faced and everything. But we've chatted, we've spoken,
Speaker 4: a bit like it's kind of like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: like just mutual paintings. Like we're not a pub as
Speaker 4: you know. But one of the people that I actually
Speaker 4: was fighting with before I and I've now become friends,
Speaker 4: was you know, Jessica.
Speaker 1: Writing, So you know, brought some people together and some
Speaker 1: people not so much.
Speaker 2: What is next for you? What have you got planned?
Speaker 4: I do have something you lined up, but we'll see
Speaker 4: fingers promised. And I just say with that, I just
Speaker 4: say never say never.
Speaker 3: You'll see what comes along.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: I have been in your audience, which feels like a
Speaker 1: very long time, and I love watching you on television.
Speaker 2: So you give us so much to talk about. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll be in your audience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you so much. Thanks for having me.