1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: On today's show, Kayla It's Senus denies hiring Glam Squad 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: for her daughter's preschool photos. Kira Maguire set to face 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: court after an alleged drink throwing incident, Sky Wheatley's controversial ebook, 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: and why Tammy Hembro sacked her little sister. Hello, and 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest influencer 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie Tobert, 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: and I feel like this long weekend has thrown us 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: all out of whack. We are bringing this episode to 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: you a day late on Wednesday due to the public holiday. 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: We've decided to shift all of our episodes, apart from 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: the Friday show, to a day later. Yeah, subs will 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: get their episode on Thursday. It kind of feels like 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: a Tuesday today anyway, because, as you said, the long 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: weekend throws everything out of whack. It really does. And 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: it was such a busy long weekend, especially for me 16 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: because I kicked off our family My Kitchen Rules competition 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: this week. This is obviously not sponsored by Channel seven, 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: abolutely not, but we actually did a My Kitchen Rules 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: competition probably about ten years ago with a group of friends, 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: and it caused so much trouble, so much so that 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: we are no longer friendly with two of the girls. 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: Friendship breakdown. I mean, the only reason we're doing it 23 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: again is because it's with family, and you have to 24 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: stay friendly with your family. And the rule is that 25 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: everything has to be cooked from scratch. Who came up 26 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: with that rule? I think you've just invented that because 27 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm the one that started the competition and I've set 28 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: all the rules, and no one ever said it all 29 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: had to be from scratch. I think you're starting to 30 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: backpedal a bit because you decided to cook everything from scratch, 31 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: and it took a long time. You did an amazing job, 32 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: but we didn't get dinner until I think it was 33 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: like nine forty five. Yeah, but I served a huge entree, 34 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: so for those interested, my entree was Aaron Cheney balls. 35 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: Then I did handmade past us. Sorry, I've got to 36 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: mention Aaron Cheni balls were of course handmade as well, 37 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: and then I did Canoli's for dessert. It was an 38 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: Italian theme. Yeah, you went out and splurged and bought 39 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: a pasta maker, which I was very impressed by because 40 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: you were hand rolling the canoli shells and I as 41 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: soon as I saw that, I was like, oh, dear, 42 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: this is going to be very late, because you can 43 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: normally tell at one of our Torba functions that things 44 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: are a little bit behind in the kitchen if the 45 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: person that greets you at the door is wearing their trackies. 46 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: And Amy, you were in your trackies, you had your 47 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: hair pulled back, you weren't in your event gluing. She 48 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: had a game face on. That's why I knew it 49 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: was going to be good. I was actually really shocked 50 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: by the standard of the food. It made me really 51 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: worried because I'm not much of a chef. And Amy, 52 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: I feel like you really went there because out of 53 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: the three of us, Kate, you're known as being the 54 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: Stepford wife out of the group. You love cooking, you 55 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: love doing a home cooked dinner every night, and Amy 56 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: and I feel like we've got to bring our ain 57 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: game well. On Saturday, I was rolling out the pasta 58 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: dough and Dale was like laughing. He's like, wow, you 59 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: guys are actually so competitive. Like when you guys arrived, 60 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: we had the menus printed. Our restaurant was called Piccolo Pangineo, 61 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: I think that's how you say. It means little penguin 62 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: in Italian. But it just cracked me up because I 63 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: know whenever you do yours, Kate, it's going to be 64 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: next level again, like we are just so competitive. Or 65 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: someone who didn't appear to like the menu that much 66 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: was our father, who was a special judger. Mum and 67 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: Dad were given the wrong of Manu and Pete and 68 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: Nigella or Nigella now And basically Dad was a little 69 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: too honest or too mean. I don't know. I think 70 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: we've got to throw to a grab because he really 71 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: took on board the role of being menu. He even 72 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: bought a little French hat with him. Let's throw to 73 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: what he said about your meal? 74 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: What do I tell you seasoning, seasoning, seasonings? 75 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: I can remember. 76 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: Five point two song Main, What do I tell your 77 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: time management? Time management? Time management? Five point seventy five? Dessert? 78 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: What is the biggest crime in cooking? Over cooking? Five 79 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,279 Speaker 2: point five? 80 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: This actually led to you to tears, Amy. I need 81 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: to put this into context because our mum was judging 82 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: as well, and she gave her verdict before Dad, and 83 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: she gave everything a ten out of ten. And it 84 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: really did highlight the differences between our parents' parenting style, 85 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: So Mum is just the biggest cheerleader and dad doesn't 86 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: mind telling it how it is. 87 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: Well. 88 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: It was in that moment that I realized why everyone 89 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: was so emotional on my kitchen rules, because I had 90 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: been preparing for this for two days. My back was 91 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: sore from making past her and to be told in 92 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: such a way by your father that it was a 93 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: five when I thought we'd actually done a really good job. 94 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: I didn't actually burst into tears at the table, but 95 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, when you little your bottom lip starts quivering, 96 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, this is so pathetic. There was 97 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: quite a scene because then you had to go away, 98 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: and dal was like, I'm pretty sure she was laughing, 99 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: and then all the girls are like, I think she 100 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: was crying. Oh, it's funny, because I was, I had 101 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: this little tear and then I looked at Sophie and 102 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: I thought, this is so pathetic, and it made me 103 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: burst out laughing. I just had to leave the now. 104 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 1: I did suggest that we read the scores out after 105 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: the fourth dinner party at the end, but everyone pushed 106 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: for the scores to be read out on the day. 107 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: I think we might have to change that. Well, the 108 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: scores from the rest of you guys were lovely. I 109 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: think they were quite high. So that's why I was 110 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: a bit shocked when you know, my own father decided 111 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: to give it such an average score. Yeah, we've decided 112 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: to uninvite our dad from further dinner. Well he's refusing 113 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: to come now. So the last couple of years have 114 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: been interesting for me. I've obviously been on a few 115 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: TV shows. It's just one of those things where you 116 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: want to be able to look your best at all time. 117 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: Kira Maguire is set to face court on multiple assault 118 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: charges following an alleged drink throwing incident at a popular 119 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: Melbourne bar. Amy, I feel like Kira has been around 120 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: for a while, but can you just refresh our audience 121 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: memories as to who she is. Yeah, well she has 122 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: been around, as you said, for a while since twenty sixteen. 123 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: So she first appeared on Richie Strawn's season of The 124 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: Bachelor at a Blast from the Past, that is, I know, 125 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 1: and she subsequently appeared on Bachelor in Paradise and also 126 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm a celebrity, get me out of here. And I 127 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: think most notably she dated Jared from Sophie Monk's season 128 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: of The Bachelor. I remember how wild that was when 129 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: that news came out. Yeah, I would never have coupled 130 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: them together, but they actually stayed together for quite a while. 131 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: They did, and Kira is best known now as an influencer. 132 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: She has over one hundred and thirty four thousand followers 133 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: on Instagram, and in twenty twenty one, she revealed Instagram 134 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: was her only source of income during an interview. It's 135 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: pretty crazy that she has managed to sustain an influence 136 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: in career seven years on from being on the Bachelor. 137 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean, she doesn't really have that many followers either, 138 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: but I'm guessing they're quite engaged. It is pretty incredible, now, Kate, 139 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: what has gone down? So Back in March, the rumor 140 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: mil went into overdrive when Anna McAvoy and Matt Sukowski 141 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: revealed on their podcast that a well known Melbourne influencer 142 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: had allegedly thrown a drink at a patron at a 143 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: South Yarra bar. Anna and Matt didn't name the influencer, 144 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: but Anna explained that she was at the bar at 145 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: the time and saw the aftermath of the alleged INCIDT 146 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: wasch she described as wild and unhinged, and I said, 147 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: I didn't see it happened, but I was very much there. 148 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: I saw the aftermath, and I was in shock. I 149 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it happened. To be honest, I am very 150 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: much in shock. Now. The most interesting part about this 151 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: is that Anna's co host Matt used to date Kira maguire, 152 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: who has been accused of being involved in this incident. 153 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: Yet weren't they dating during lockdown? Like I remember seeing 154 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: all this PDA online, like they were doing all their 155 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: skin stuff together, and I remember thinking that's a really 156 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: odd Matt, Like, I didn't see those two getting together. See, 157 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: I didn't find it that odd because they're both attractive, 158 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: they're both on reality TV. They seemed to socialize in 159 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: those circles. I was more surprised when Kira data jared, 160 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: to be honest. Now, Back in March, many people believed 161 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: that Kira was the accused influencer, as she was in 162 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: attendance at the South Yarra Bar on the night the 163 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: alleged altercation took place. Apparently, Kira was seated with her 164 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: friends in a booth and the altercation took place with 165 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: a woman in an adjoining booth and it is a 166 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: such that the police were called and CCTV footage was 167 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: taken from the venue. Well, it all became official over 168 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: the weekend because The Herald Sun reported that Kira is 169 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: set to face court on multiple assault charges, so she'll 170 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: appear before Melbourne Magistrates Court for a mention hearing on 171 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: August third. Now, Kira was contacted buy the Herald Sun 172 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: and also The Daily Mail about the incident, but hasn't 173 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: commented yet. Things are set to get interesting because now 174 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: that the media are confident that they can name Kira, 175 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: they're going to be chasing this story a lot. I 176 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: feel like there's going to be a lot of media 177 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: outside of this hearing. Oh yeah, definitely. All of the 178 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: big news stations will be here. They'll be having their 179 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: court reporters chase Kra down the street for comment. I 180 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: wonder if they will name the other woman involved in 181 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: if she also has a profile in the influencer space. Yes, 182 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: it will be very interesting. I do wonder if Anna 183 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: and Matt will do a follow up on their podcast 184 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: as well. They might not actually be able to legally. 185 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: I just find it while that they were the ones 186 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: that first reported on your story. I actually kind of 187 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: respect that that they did. Hi, everyone's we're trying to 188 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: Calasin is here and I am with Pop Sugar and 189 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: today I am bringing you a full body Express workout. 190 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: Kayla Atcinas has hit back a claims she hired a 191 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: glam squad to help her four year old daughter get 192 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: ready for her preschool photos. Kate, can you tell us more? Well? 193 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: Little started on Thursday when Kayla shared a very cute 194 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: photo of her daughter Anna sitting in a salon chair 195 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: having her hair blow dried by a hairdresser. There was 196 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: also a makeup artist in the shot who appeared to 197 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: be brushing Anna's eyebrows. So Kayla explained in the photo 198 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: on her Insta story that she had worked today and 199 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: Anna had school photos, so her hairdresser and makeup artist 200 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: had ditched her for Anna. She added, She's much more 201 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: important now. As Adelaide's newspaper, the Advertiser, like to do, 202 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: they jumped all over this story. Anyone who lives in 203 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: Adelaide will know the Advertiser love writing about Kayla Atsina's 204 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: and Olivia Rogers. So the article was a little bit 205 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: snarky and they tried to position Anna as a spoilt brat, 206 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: so they claimed that the four year old was hand 207 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: fed brownies by her grandmother with a full glam squad 208 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: pampering her for a pre school photos, and the journalists 209 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: made this big deal about the fact that the hairdresser 210 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: was a highly acclaimed hairdresser and that the makeup artist 211 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: had worked with many well known clients. They also described 212 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: Anna's hairstyle as a chic high ponytail, so, in other words, 213 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: just a ponytail that most kids wear now. I thought 214 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: it was pretty clear that this photo was lighthearted and 215 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: that Kayla was clearly the one getting a hair and 216 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: makeup done, but the advertiser didn't pick up on this, 217 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: so Kayla ended up hitting back at the advertisers claims 218 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: that she hired a glam squad for Anna's preschool photos. 219 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: She shared the article and wrote wow, absolutely, no, zero, never, 220 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: and then she went on to explain that she was 221 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: getting ready for a photo shoot at the hair salon 222 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: and Anna just happened to be there in the morning 223 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: before preschool drop off. So Kayla said, Anna came to 224 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: work with me this morning, and my hair and makeup 225 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: artists were so excited when I started doing a hair 226 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: for school photos, they wanted to do it. No one 227 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: is hiring a hair and makeup team for preschool photo 228 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: for their kid. Anna is just lucky. Everyone loves her. 229 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: If you had just read that headline, you would have 230 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: assumed that Kayla had got the makeup artists and hairdresser 231 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: to do like full makeup glam on a four year old, 232 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: not just put her hair in a ponytail and fluffed 233 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: up her eyebrow. It is pretty misleading. I think they 234 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: were going for the clickbait there, because anyone who read 235 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: that it is going to be like, that's fucking ridiculous. 236 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: Oh definitely, you can see exactly what they're doing. They're 237 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: wanting clicks. But I'm sure there are some moms that 238 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: probably do actually glam their kids up for school photos. 239 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if people do it to their four year olds, though. 240 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: I don't think people are actually hiring full glam squads. 241 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Kayla was saying it's ridiculous. I mean, she's 242 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: a multimillionaire and she's not doing it. So but there'd 243 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: be some like kids at these elite private schools. I'm 244 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: sure where their parents would go in they'd put a 245 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: little bit of makeup on them. Maybe Roxy just saying Kaz, 246 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: maybe order Pixie. I'm not saying it's right, like I 247 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: would never ever do that to my child, but I 248 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: actually think it would happen more than you think. I 249 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: do think it's pretty unfair though, that they were trying 250 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: to position Anna to be this brat that was getting 251 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: all this glam done when she was literally just happened 252 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: to be at the hairdresser with her mum and they're like, oh, 253 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: let's put her hair in a ponytail. I think in 254 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: Adelaide especially, we all suffer from a bit of tall 255 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: poppy syndrome, especially the Adelaide media. And yeah, Kayla does 256 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: get attacked a lot here, whereas if that story was 257 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: into State, they would probably have a laugh about it. Yeah, 258 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: it is funny because, as you say, Kayla is the 259 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: biggest influencer in Adelaide, and I feel like everyone has 260 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: their own Kayla. It's seen a story. It's literally like 261 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: on me and Girls with Regina George, Like I hear 262 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: her hair is insured for one million dollars. Like all 263 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: the stories are probably so false. I think the snarkiness 264 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: from the media comes from how much Kayla has earned. 265 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: If I'm being completely honest, Yeah, I totally agree. And 266 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, how dare she earn money? How dare 267 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: she get the hairdresser to put her daughter's hair into 268 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: a ponytail for a school photos. Yeah, it's not like 269 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: she's rocking up in a Porsche driven by a chauffeur. 270 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: So I'm going to do like a little Tammy fit story. 271 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: Time star Time, who is the second youngest of the 272 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: Hembro sisters, reveal that her big sister, Tammy Hembro, fired 273 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: her from what she described as a sad little job. 274 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: So she explained that five years ago, when she was eighteen, 275 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: she got a job at Tammy Hembro's active wear line, 276 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: Saski packing Orders. This is absolutely classic. Here's what she 277 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: said about the job. 278 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 3: I feel like at the time I didn't take it. 279 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: I didn't take the job as seriously as I could have. 280 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if it was because I just thought 281 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 3: I ran the place because my sister owned it. But 282 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: I was in all their snacks, taking Saski and you know, 283 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: just doing my thing, and then guess what happened. I 284 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: got fired. But that's fine because I didn't care anyways. Yeah, 285 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: so that kind of started my truck record for working 286 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: with family. 287 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to put myself in her shoes because I 288 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: feel like I would be the same if you guys 289 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: had a company, if you're my older sisters, I would 290 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: think I own them, so I'd be doing absolutely whatever 291 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: I felt like and just thinking, Oh, I'm going to 292 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: get a paycheck at the end of this. Doesn't it 293 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: just sound like a storyline from Keeping Up with the 294 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: Kardashians back in the day, like Kylie and Kendall go 295 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: to work at Kim's company and get fired. Oh, it 296 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: sounds exactly like that. I mean, can you say that 297 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: you would take the piss, But I actually think that 298 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: if it's your sister's company, you almost feel like you've 299 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: got to try a little bit hard. But no one 300 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: you're eighteen. When you're eighteen, you kind of think that 301 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: the world owes you everything. I love that she said 302 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: that she was eating all their snacks. You can just 303 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: imagine the other stuff. Probably too scared to do anything, 304 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: and she's off just stealing food. I feel for the 305 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: person who actually fired her, because I'm guessing that Tammy 306 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: may have given that role to some other staff member 307 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: that work there and not done it to our own sister. 308 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: Do you reckon? 309 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: I reckon, Tammy's gone, You're fired, Like this is you 310 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: can't do this stuff? Yeah, And I think that it 311 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: would have been a bit cruel to be kind situation, 312 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: because obviously she's saying she had a bit of an 313 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: attitude when she was working there. They probably thought this 314 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: is going to be a really good life lesson for her. 315 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: It is a really difficult position though, being in a 316 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: family business. So ifie, we run a business together, and 317 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: I suppose this podcast is a bit of a business too. 318 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: I remember when we first started. Our uncles they also 319 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: have a business together, and they're like, don't do it. 320 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 321 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: Well things must have blown over because Star revealed that 322 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: five years on, she is now back working for Tammy 323 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: at her fitness app, which is called tammy Fit, and 324 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: she did want to emphasize that she is not a 325 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: NEPO baby, and she explained that her sister Amy, who 326 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: actually manages tammy Fit, was very skeptical of hiring her 327 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: after the first time round and said that she wouldn't 328 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: give her the job and that she had to officially 329 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: apply to the marketing team like everyone else. How imagine 330 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: the stress on the marketing team getting that application. Like 331 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: they say, she's not a NEPO baby or a NEPO sister, 332 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: but I feel like her application would have been fast 333 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: tracked a little bit. Well, she said that she was 334 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: desperate to prove herself, so she apparently put together a 335 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: document with her vision for the brand and what she 336 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: would bring to the role. And she's now been working 337 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: there for a year, so she got the job. Well, 338 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: got on them for making her actually apply. Me she 339 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: does have a different last name, so it might have 340 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: tricked some of the marketing health. I mean, I think 341 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: they may have known. But it's clear that Tammy doesn't 342 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: mind having her sisters work for her. It is an 343 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: interesting dynamic considering that everything is named after her, She's 344 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: obviously the big boss there. Yeah. Well, Tammy does actually 345 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: have a track record of firing her sisters, because in 346 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, on her podcast, she revealed that she actually 347 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: fired her sister Amy, who was working as general manager 348 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: for her active rearline, Saski, and was pretty big at 349 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: the time because Amy actually helped Tammy launch the brand 350 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: back in twenty seventeen, so she was working there for 351 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: two years, and Tammy basically said that they were continually 352 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: butting heads about what was best for the brand and 353 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: it was taking a toll on their relationship. Can you 354 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: imagine the phone call the Hembrose mum would have received 355 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: from both Amy and Tammy. I feel like things would 356 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: have been very heated. It's quite clear that a lot 357 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: was going on in the background, and that sisters were 358 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: siding with one another, which happens when you do have 359 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: a big family. Because Emily went to Amy that same 360 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: year and put the idea forward for Skin, which is 361 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: their skin clinic on the Gold Coast, And you might 362 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: know that name because there were a lot of headlines 363 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: about the skin clinic in twenty twenty two when Kim 364 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: Kardashian launched a skin in care line with the same name. 365 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: So it's pretty clear that they were like, now, fuck it, 366 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: we can do it ourselves. We don't need Tammy. We're 367 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: going to do this business. It's not like the Kutashian 368 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: Jenna clan to be copying names from the Hembros. No. 369 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 4: He showing the cover yourbum. 370 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want everybody of the sea, you know. 371 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 4: Is it looking good? 372 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 3: Oh? 373 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: Yeah? 374 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 4: What about from that angle down there? 375 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks real good? 376 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 4: Is it jilsy? 377 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely. 378 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley has given followers a sneak peek of her 379 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: impending ebook. She shared the cover photo showing her very 380 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: glammed up standing in front of a large pile of 381 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: fruit and vegs. It really had very two thoy and 382 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: seventeen vibes about it. And the title of the book 383 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: is The High Protein Guide by Sky Wheatley, and in 384 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: the caption she joked with her followers that she should 385 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: have called it the Big Booty Banquet. I do feel 386 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: like the High Protein Guide screams twenty seventeen. It's very fitzbo. 387 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: I think calling it the Big Booty Guides would have 388 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: screamed twenty seventeen. It's quite clear that Tammy Hembro is 389 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: someone of an inspiration for Sky. Tammy has built a 390 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: large following off the fact that she has a great ass, 391 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: and Sky Weeye also has a great ass. So I 392 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: think that she thinks that that is her key marketing 393 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: tool because Sky doesn't have any credentials in fitness or 394 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: as a dietitian or a nutritionist. Well, she did mention 395 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: she's doing some sort of study in the nutrition of 396 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: fitness space. I think it is off the back of 397 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: the all the backlash that she received about launching this EA. Yeah, 398 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: but it's quite clear that she's already written this book 399 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: because on her Instagram she shared the table of contents 400 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: of the book. She shared a number of the pages, 401 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 1: the fact that the photos are all done, and she 402 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: also has a price for the e book. It's listed 403 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: at thirty nine to ninety five, and she said that 404 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: she wanted to make it affordable for everyone so that 405 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: all of her followers can have a copy. It's also 406 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: disturbingly easy to become a nutritionist online. I think it 407 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: only takes about forty eight hours to do a course. 408 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: That's if that is the particular course she's doing. And 409 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: there's also a difference between a nutritionist and a dietitian exactly, 410 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: so a dietitian is where you have to spend about 411 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: four years at university. I do think it is positive though, 412 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: that she is trying to get educated on the top. 413 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: I mean, it would be much better if she'd actually 414 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: done it before she released the ebook, but it does 415 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: show positive signs that she is taking feedback on board. 416 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: Well. 417 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: Was she initially didn't take the feedback very well. Okay, 418 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: because she came under fire when she did initially announce 419 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: this ebook back in May, because at the time, she 420 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: jumped on her stories and she was telling her audience 421 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: of her intentions and asking them to send in how 422 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: many calories they eat a day, And immediately a follower 423 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 1: called her out, saying you really need to stay in 424 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: your lane and stop trying to be a nutritionist or 425 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: a dietitian. And instead of actually taking this comment on board, 426 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: she shared a photo of herself giving the finger and wrote, 427 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, I'm qualified. She then followed 428 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: it up with a photo of her in a G 429 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: string and wrote booty program coming soon. Get ready. Also, 430 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: this is my before photo, not even the after. When 431 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: all people realize that them having a desirable body doesn't 432 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: make you qualified to tell other people how to eat, 433 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: everybody is so different. Yeah, and she was also saying, oh, 434 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: I've done my own research, which again is very twenty 435 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: seventeen vibes a catch cry of every controversial fitness influence. 436 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: So they've done their research aka googled some stuff. 437 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 438 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: Well, this caused leading Sydney based eating disorder recovery coach 439 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: Mia Finlay to pen an open letter to Ski, which 440 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: she recorded as a YouTube video. And her name might 441 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: sound familiar because she has over sixty three thousand followers 442 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: on YouTube and she also generated headlines when she slamms 443 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: Sarah's Day for allegedly marketing her ebook campaign at vulnerable people. Apparently, 444 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,239 Speaker 1: MEA's inbox was just inundated with Sky's followers who are 445 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: very concerned about this program. Let's writ to some of 446 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: what Mia said in her YouTube video. 447 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 4: You might be wondering why I'm taking issue with this 448 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 4: when pretty much every single fitness influencer has done the 449 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 4: same thing. Well, there's a few reasons. One first and foremost, 450 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 4: I have never seen somebody be so brazen and so 451 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 4: direct about the fact that they do not have qualifications 452 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 4: and they do not believe that they need to have 453 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 4: qualifications to guide people on their food, intel on their movement, 454 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 4: on their weight loss, on anything to do with diet 455 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 4: or exercise. Right, I've never seen somebody say, well, because 456 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 4: I've lost weight, or because I've engaged in fitness, or 457 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 4: I've engaged in dieting, i am therefore qualified by my 458 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 4: own experience to guide other people and being very very 459 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 4: confident in stating that to her very very sizable audience. 460 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 4: I have never ever seen that before, just like I've 461 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 4: never seen anybody do what Sarah's State did in appealing 462 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 4: to and marketing to a vulnerable audience like the eating 463 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 4: disorder recovery population. 464 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: It does seem like Sky has taken on me as 465 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: advice about trying to get qualified. I do wonder if 466 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: she's going to stick with this studying. Do we know 467 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: if there has been a dietitian that is working alongside Sky. 468 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: It is unclear she has an outlined that a nutritionist 469 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: or a dietitian has worked on the plan. On the 470 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: front page, it does say by Sky Wheatly, and when 471 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: she was receiving that criticism, she did back it up 472 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: by saying that she had any team that she was 473 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: working with it. It appears to be a solo project, 474 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: and I am very concerned by the effect that Sky 475 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: could have on the fitness space. I don't think that 476 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: she is educated enough on the matter to be handing 477 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: out this sort of advice. I wonder if it's the 478 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: same people who did Mitchell Orvil's ebook. Remember it was 479 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: like this one stop company where you just give them 480 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: the information and they just print it for you. They 481 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: actually just slap your name on it. It seemed. Yeah, 482 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: I feel like Ski has really tried to engage her 483 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: online community with this project, because she keeps asking people 484 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: to test out recipes that she's doing. Like I saw 485 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: she wanted everyone to make the banana bread and give 486 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: her feedback on it. I mean, it is a clever 487 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: idea to get your community engaged, But I just have 488 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: concerns over the fact that she seems to always be 489 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: perpetuating toxic diet culture. I mean, in the past, she's 490 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: outlined exactly how much she'd weighed and then says that 491 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: she's very concerned and needs to lose weight, even though 492 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: it's a very low number. Yeah, and I think there's 493 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: a big difference between Ski potentially putting out a cooking 494 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: book with her favorite recipes and her saying, no, you 495 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: need to eat this many calorie a day to look 496 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: like me, particularly when it's fairly obvious that she has 497 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: no idea what she's doing, considering she keeps having to 498 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: ask her followers, Oh, well, how many calories do you 499 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: think it should be? And what exercises should I do 500 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: and what should I cook? Well, that's all we've got 501 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: time for today. Thank you so much for listening to 502 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: another episode ab Outspoken. 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