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Speaker 1: And Amanda. I've read a story the other day about

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Speaker 1: Health New South or Health New Zealand, and they had

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Speaker 1: a bid to save three million dollars. But it's going

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Speaker 1: to go the other way because there's been a giant

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Speaker 1: fight against it and they've had to reinstate a certain

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Speaker 1: product in the staff room, Milo. Actually, what they're saying

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Speaker 1: here is the bid to remove Milo could have cost

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Speaker 1: it three million dollars because the union was going to

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Speaker 1: step in. I'll read the story Health New Zealand's misguided

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Speaker 1: bid to remove Milo from the staff rooms could have

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Speaker 1: cost it millions of dollars, according to one doctor's union.

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Speaker 1: So what they've done they've had to reinstate it to

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Speaker 1: ensure that Milo remains available to all. When I first

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Speaker 1: became aware yesterday that it had been proposed that Health

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Speaker 1: New South Wales would switch to alternatives to Milo to

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Speaker 1: save money, I immediately put a stop to that and

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Speaker 1: issued a communication to all staff that in the case

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Speaker 1: of Milo, the status quo will prevail. This is the

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Speaker 1: chief executive. I know from staff on the front line

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Speaker 1: they particularly enjoy Milo. It should continue to be available

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Speaker 1: to them. So this they're taking Milo out of the

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Speaker 1: staff room almost cost them three million dollars. So there's

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Speaker 1: such an uprull. They put a cheap substitute of Milo,

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Speaker 1: and they say no, thank you, no thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's the problem when the bean counters get involved, because

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Speaker 2: they look.

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Speaker 1: At coffee bean counter.

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Speaker 2: The coffee bean counters, they look at it and they think, well,

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Speaker 2: we could save X amounts out of dollars.

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Speaker 1: Without realizing the personal pleasure people get from a cup

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Speaker 1: of Milo.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of people forget that in a business.

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Speaker 2: What makes a business is the people that work in

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Speaker 2: the business.

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Speaker 1: I once saw a documentary about this firm in Wales,

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Speaker 1: I think it was, and this woman when she when

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Speaker 1: her pen was empty, she wasn't allowed to go to

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Speaker 1: the stationary cup and get another pen. She had to

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Speaker 1: put the pen in an envelope and send it to

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Speaker 1: head office and they would deem that yes, she'd finished

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Speaker 1: with that pen and she was allowed to have another.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't they cost money, don't you past? But then again

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Speaker 2: I do see if you're running a company, there'd be

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Speaker 2: a lot of wastage like you gets someone like Jimi

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Speaker 2: Ryde just going through the pens, using one once and

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Speaker 2: then throwing it in the bin.

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Speaker 1: He didn't realize they were reusable. Same with his cutlery,

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Speaker 1: uses it once, chucks it out.

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Speaker 2: And I do see that. But morale, staff, morale, all

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Speaker 2: those things.

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Speaker 1: That's absolutely right. And sometimes you think, well, look at

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Speaker 1: all the expenditure that they're spending on other things, and

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Speaker 1: they're going to penny pinch. Here's the petty stuff that

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Speaker 1: really brings you unstuck. What happened to the biscuits. It

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Speaker 1: might be as simple as that. Maybe someone's chairs got

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Speaker 1: taken away and replaced with ergonomic balls. Maybe, whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: I thank god you don't see those anymore because they

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Speaker 1: were useless.

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Speaker 2: You know. That's a ah man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Or companies that make you sit on a hay bale.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I think I think I'm due to retire, you know,

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Speaker 2: I just.

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Speaker 1: Think we've been taking a petition. Did you see it