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Speaker 1: Jagan Square.

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Speaker 2: It is such a great spot and yet truth is,

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Speaker 2: it's been it's been a real thing, trying to get

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Speaker 2: something that set is settled, trying to get in that.

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Speaker 1: Trying to get it right.

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Speaker 2: And we're back having another go and the Minister for Planning,

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Speaker 2: John Kerry is joining us this morning.

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Speaker 1: Good morning John, Welcome John. Hi guys.

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Speaker 2: So our new redevelopment for Yagan Square has been announced.

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Speaker 1: Tell us what's set to happen?

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Speaker 3: So, look, I think we all know it just didn't

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Speaker 3: work and the reality is is people just walked by.

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Speaker 3: So we're reworking it with the Nocturnal Crew, if you know,

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Speaker 3: they're the people behind both and the old Synagogue in

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Speaker 3: Fremantle have the complete revamp, complete revamp with eleven bars,

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Speaker 3: three restaurants. But the best thing is going to be

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Speaker 3: a live music venue, which as you probably know, we

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Speaker 3: critically need in Perth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to be fair, I've never walked past it because

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Speaker 1: he's in smoke.

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Speaker 2: It is one of my favorite Japanese restaurants. So do

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Speaker 2: you think this is is the live venue? Is the

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Speaker 2: going to be maybe the key point of difference this

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Speaker 2: time around?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think and you know it's who's running it.

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Speaker 3: Those guys have got the runs on the board. But

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Speaker 3: the other thing you've got to remember is that there

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Speaker 3: will be ECU campus across right across, and that's going

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Speaker 3: to have eight to ten thousand students. So I think

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Speaker 3: that plus this really renewal of and it's called stories,

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Speaker 3: it's you know, it's got incredible war murals inside, they're

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Speaker 3: really going to something special. And I think both of

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Speaker 3: those are going to bring a lot more people into

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Speaker 3: a part which I think we all have to acknowledge.

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Speaker 3: Let's just call it for what it is, the dead zone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I see the cues at Old Sinego have gone

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Speaker 4: down Free Away and now John and it's a huge hit,

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Speaker 4: and these people have got their runs on the board.

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Speaker 4: But when you think about Jegen, it was just more

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Speaker 4: and more demoralizing for people as these venues started shutting

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Speaker 4: down one by one. What about the antisocial behavior that

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Speaker 4: we see there at times? What's the plan there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, that's a good question. I'd say two things.

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Speaker 3: First of all, you might have noticed we have put

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Speaker 3: a twenty four hour police mobile facility. It's a mobile facility,

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Speaker 3: but it's permanently there, so that's where police run their

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Speaker 3: operations out of in the city. But the other thing

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Speaker 3: is people is the answer. As you know, you go

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Speaker 3: to any city around the world where there is plenty

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Speaker 3: of people on the street, that's where it feels safe, vibrant.

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Speaker 3: So if we can get more people in there, it

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Speaker 3: will also address the safety issues.

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Speaker 2: It's a chicken in an ex situation, isn't it. But

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Speaker 2: you know, really the Edith at Cowan University campus, that's

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Speaker 2: going to be an utter game changer for that whole

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Speaker 2: you know, feeling alive and on the streets and everything factor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, it's about people. So you can think about it.

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Speaker 3: Eight to ten thousand students in the city. And people

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Speaker 3: say to me, oh, students don't spend the money. Actually,

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Speaker 3: all the research shows they do. They do actually go

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Speaker 3: to the bar, they go to the restaurant. They want

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Speaker 3: to have fun. So you see Melbourne, you see other

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Speaker 3: cities around the world. We're confident it's going to work.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And students' families come and spend money as well. Yes,

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Speaker 4: whether they're coming from Eastern States or in town or

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Speaker 4: are overseas, which is always great. John.

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Speaker 3: So look, the whole thing opens exclusive for you guys

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Speaker 3: that it opens on the twenty seventh and twenty eighth

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Speaker 3: of April.

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Speaker 4: Okay, they're actually going to.

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Speaker 3: Close down the Horseshoe Bridge and have a big market

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Speaker 3: across the bridge, which is brilliant, and they'll be all different.

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Speaker 3: It's called illuminate, so they'll all be all these free entertainment.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be brilliant a.

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Speaker 2: Month and a week away. I didn't realize it's going

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Speaker 2: to be so soon. And that's awesome next.

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Speaker 4: Year or something that's great.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's better, go better. Hey, John, why do you

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Speaker 1: hear mate? Just quickly?

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Speaker 4: I saw you on the Telly last night talking about

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Speaker 4: showing off some magnificent little small houses and we know

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Speaker 4: housing and homelessness is terrible. I think these ones are

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Speaker 4: for seniors. But those homes are on the news. I

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Speaker 4: saw they look magnificent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I want to say this. We get the

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Speaker 3: housing market is bloody tough. We're throwing everything at it,

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Speaker 3: and tiny homes are part of the solution. They only

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Speaker 3: take twelve weeks to build. You build them off site,

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Speaker 3: you bring them on, drop them off, and so it's

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Speaker 3: a quicker turnaround time. And yet those tiny homes will

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Speaker 3: be for seniors who are doing it tough, right.

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Speaker 2: Those whoever initially came up with the tiny house idea.

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Speaker 2: You know, first of all, they were changing basically shipping

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Speaker 2: containers into houses, and they deserve you know, a metal

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Speaker 2: It's the greatest idea ever perfect.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's really high quality now like people are good pushback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, nah, it's not just a big square.

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Speaker 2: It's decked out.

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Speaker 4: And inside that's been so well. They've been so well planned.

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Speaker 4: There's still plenty of space for living, so not creating

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Speaker 4: slums or anything ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: It's good.

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Speaker 3: No, the's a beautiful quality. There was like even a

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Speaker 3: window place where you can sit, Like you look at

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Speaker 3: it and you think, this is a great little home,

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Speaker 3: and I think, yeah, not just put people on the

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Speaker 3: social waiting list, but for anyone who's looking at an

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Speaker 3: alternative to say a young university student or something else

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 2: We've got some very bright minds in you know, those

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Speaker 2: people that designed these things. So I'm not surprised, all right,

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Speaker 2: twenty eighth of April, I'm I'm penciling it in John

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Speaker 2: for the opening of Jagan Square twenty seventh and twenty eighth.

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Speaker 3: Was it, Yeah, it is Yeah, a lemnim and the

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Speaker 3: Horseshoe Bridge closed for per biggest vintage market.

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Speaker 4: Okay, very nice, thank you John. A lot of upside there,

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Speaker 4: well done.

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Speaker 1: Thank you John.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Cheers.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's hope that you know, because it's it is

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Speaker 2: such a great spot and it's a shame to see

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Speaker 2: it never.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I thought what was there before was fab

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Speaker 1: fantastic to.

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Speaker 4: Work Aroundly, once things started shutting down, we want to go. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're going off. No one wants to hear the words

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Speaker 4: white elephant do that.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, you did not feel comfortable walking around

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Speaker 2: that area.

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Speaker 4: I'm a shocked as you. That's only for five weeks away, sir.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty cool.