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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nas we did, and l in

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Speaker 1: her book would be the first to say, hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying what had happened to me.

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to influence anyone in their own decision making.

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Speaker 2: Having said that she is a wellness influencer, she is,

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Speaker 2: and as broadcasters, I think we also have to be responsible.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'd say this read the book because in it

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Speaker 3: in that book, she does not say once this is

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Speaker 3: what you should do. She actually said this is what

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Speaker 3: worked for me, but don't do it. She pretty much

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Speaker 3: says that it's like when I buy a house, I

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Speaker 3: never get a building a pest inspection. I've done this,

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Speaker 3: this has always worked for me. I would not in

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Speaker 3: any way or say to you go and do that. Now,

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Speaker 3: that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Can I say that if you were, say Andrew Winter,

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Speaker 2: and you were a person who was well known for

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Speaker 2: real estate savvy, that would carry some weight.

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Speaker 3: Yes, of course, But I didn't realize I don't look

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Speaker 3: at el McPherson as a wellness influence. I look at

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Speaker 3: her as I know she's been andy vax and now.

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Speaker 2: She's a willness and she would say so, I've bought

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Speaker 2: her product.

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Speaker 3: But this book I think there's a lot of hysteria

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Speaker 3: about it. It's just a memoir, that's really all it is.

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Speaker 2: I know. But this is the dilemma here is that

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Speaker 2: she's saying, this is just what happened to me, But

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Speaker 2: people will look to ill. She says, make up your

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Speaker 2: own decisions. Just I think, in fairness, as a broadcaster,

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Speaker 2: I would feel more comfortable if we also I came

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Speaker 2: across this woman. Her name is doctor Lizzo Rawden Ariaden.

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Speaker 2: She's English. She also she's a breast cancer doctor. She

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Speaker 2: has suffered and a breast cancerself as her chemotherapy, radiation,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. This is just a simplet of

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Speaker 2: what she has said.

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Speaker 4: We need to stop putting people like this on a

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Speaker 4: pedestal and saying, oh my goodness, they've done this. She

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Speaker 4: has now got the whole world literally talking about her

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Speaker 4: cancer treatment, the reasons she did it. Everyone is going

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Speaker 4: to be clamoring to buy her book in November. Maybe

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Speaker 4: it's just I'm being cynical. It's a very clever marketing campaign.

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Speaker 4: Her book is all about promoting wellness, and that's fantastic.

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Speaker 4: But she's a businesswoman with a company that sells supplements,

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Speaker 4: one of which she creative during her seven years after treatment.

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Speaker 4: She's not a doctor, she cannot give medical advice.

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Speaker 2: She said, if this, if the alternative therapy has worked,

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Speaker 2: this is what this doctor has said, I would give

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Speaker 2: them to you. Believe me, if they worked and were

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Speaker 2: scientifically proven, I would give them to you. They would

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Speaker 2: be free for you. So yes, your make up your

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Speaker 2: own minds, but also listen to your medical chance.

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Speaker 3: Who are you taking advice from? A medical advice from

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Speaker 3: a doctor or a lady that wore a Bikinian sold tab.

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Speaker 2: A wellness influencer. And that's a big deal. It's a

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Speaker 2: big deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course it's a big deal. But honestly, it's

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Speaker 3: a memoir. It's not a self help