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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lola Berry, author, nutritionist,

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Speaker 1: and yoga teacher join me as we get to know

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Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately

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Speaker 1: shaped their dreams.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry. Get a it's

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Speaker 2: lols here.

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Speaker 1: This next guest is an Australian icon, none other than

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Speaker 1: Megan Gail.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: She is a model, a mama bear to two beautiful kids,

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Speaker 1: River and Rosie. On top of that, she's a producer,

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Speaker 1: she's a TV host, she's been a fashion designer, She's

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Speaker 1: now got her own children's skincare range called Mindful Life,

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Speaker 1: And on top of that, she's got Mine for Life Journal,

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Speaker 1: which is like this online health wellness like a meditation

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Speaker 1: inspiration hub. This human being doesn't stop. And if I

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Speaker 1: could explain Megan Gale in a word, it would.

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Speaker 2: Just be pure joy.

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Speaker 1: So I hope you enjoy this episode with the joyful

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Speaker 1: Meghan Gale.

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Speaker 2: I'm so pumped. Are you pumped? But I'm really pumped.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, okay, go, you go, you go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I've made a list about you. Okay, okay, But

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Speaker 1: first of all, we've known each other for a little while.

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Speaker 1: We'll go to that and see I'm getting too excited.

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Speaker 1: I know I would vegan gaye ps if. Anyway, So

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Speaker 1: I've done a bit of research on you, Perth girl, yep,

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Speaker 1: A bit of a tom Boy model, actor, mum to

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Speaker 1: beautiful River and Rosie fashion designer, yes bell yeah, part

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Speaker 1: owner of my local cafe.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, Sean Moore is I'm kind of like a

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Speaker 3: piggyback partner.

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Speaker 2: I love those Asahi bowls and Pokey bowls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I scot food store by the way, ye

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Speaker 1: TV host, and I researched and found out you're produced

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Speaker 1: as well. Was that Project Runway one of Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not solo, that's still yeah, co produced, Still pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's a bit of a hand, but not the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Ambassador for Mozillian, amazing, humongous companies Jones, Glorial, Lexus. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and then we've got busy huh mate, Mine for Life

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Speaker 1: and Mine for Life Journal, which I'm pumped to kind

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Speaker 1: of unpack a little bit of as well, because that's

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Speaker 1: the most recent stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah correct, Okay, right, so now.

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Speaker 1: We can get into the first of all, and I

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Speaker 1: just in the story of this, do you remember when

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Speaker 1: we first met, yes, yes, you want to share.

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Speaker 3: Yes. So I can't remember the exact name of the

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Speaker 3: organic veggie store, but it was an albert Park called Ripe, right,

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Speaker 3: that's it, right, Ripe, of course, and back in two

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Speaker 3: thousand and eleven, which I think you'd already been working

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Speaker 3: there for a little bit. I used to go there

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Speaker 3: with Shornye and we used to get smoothies and also

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Speaker 3: get our produce and lots of other things. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: I used to work behind the counter and make the

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Speaker 3: best smoothies in Melbourne. So yeah, we still get. You're

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Speaker 1: So I would have been like twenty four to five, yeah,

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Speaker 1: little bubby, And over the years you've always just been

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Speaker 1: like such a sweetie. And then the last time I

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Speaker 1: You run into each other outside of Yoag's and I

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Speaker 3: I didn't even realize until like it that's what I love,

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Speaker 1: So okay, there is so much stuff about you that

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to do it unpacked. Well, first of all,

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Speaker 2: I'm meeking goal? Like, I don't believe that that happens.

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Speaker 3: So many resolutely happens, so many people tell me that,

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Speaker 1: And that's coming from like an like proper and it's

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Speaker 3: I'm really I'm quite impressed that you managed to figure

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a lot of fun and that was

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Speaker 3: I was at the time, and I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: And is it true, like, so you did the job

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Speaker 2: So it was it was to get my head around

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Speaker 1: And as much I feel like when I researched you,

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Speaker 3: You at every turn, and you're right when you know,

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Speaker 2: But in Australia that's not just runn of the mill.

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Speaker 3: So the client was that. Luckily I had someone from

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that was I guess my first lesson of Okay,

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Speaker 3: And you know, even after that, there were like offers

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's your intuition, And I like, an intuition

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you've had like trolls or someone say negative

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Speaker 3: I believe in. That sometimes being a public person that

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00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 3: can get me into a bit of trouble in that

438
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 3: I'm very outspoken and I like to speak my mind.

439
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 3: But I think in time I've learned to not be

440
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 3: scared of doing it.

441
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 2: But I think you've just got to think about how

442
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: you do it.

443
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 3: Like in hindsight, back then, I probably would have gone

444
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 3: up and just you know, made my presence known and

445
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 3: maybe gone up to them.

446
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,959
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I said something. I don't know.

447
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's amazing you did. I don't think

448
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: you did it. I don't think you did anything wrong.

449
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: I think the fact that they called the papers is

450
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: also another reflection of them as well. So I think,

451
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: if anything is a testament to your realness and just

452
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: kind of like calling it how you see it.

453
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but it was an interest, It was definitely

454
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 3: an It was one of those things where it's like.

455
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is happening, this is what is

456
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 2: actually happening. I've heard other stories of people that have heard.

457
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: Really I heard a story of I think it was

458
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: Ruby Rose was on a flight and there was the

459
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: same thing, girls behind the row behind her reading a

460
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: magazine and she got up, lent over the and like

461
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 1: let them ripped into them and let them have it.

462
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: So think about what you're doing. Yeah, even know who's

463
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: listening kind of thing. Yeah, and that sat down, but

464
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 1: was pretty like upset from what I've Yeah, so I

465
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 1: mean it sounds like you were pretty chill and good

466
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: and you know.

467
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 2: Idea about it, fairly contained. But yeah, it was a

468
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: funny one.

469
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 1: This is probably kind of com you like a curve ball.

470
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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to ask you about movies. You were

471
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: in Their Mad Mad Yes, Fury Road, Yeah, pretty much nudy,

472
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: very moody, but you.

473
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 2: Had long locks, like about the hair.

474
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 3: So first of all, before I even went to go

475
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 3: into the movie that, George Mellow, the director, called me

476
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 3: and he was like, I just want to talk to

477
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Speaker 3: you about.

478
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 2: One scene that you might have seen your up on

479
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Speaker 2: the tower.

480
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, yea, And he goes, yeah,

481
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 3: so you're going to be nude in that and I

482
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 3: was like, ah, sorry, never discussed nudity and he said,

483
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 3: I know, and he said, and it might seem very random,

484
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: and he said, I can assure you it's not nudity

485
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 3: for nudity's sake. And he said, you're up there basically

486
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 3: your your kind of crewe, your tribe of women.

487
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 2: They're very ruthless, they hunter gatherers, they're sick, they'll do

488
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: what they will do. Sick.

489
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll do whatever they need to survive. And one

490
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: of the things that these women do is they put

491
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 3: you up there nude, helpless, vulnerable as bait, so that

492
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 3: when whoever it is comes along tries to rescue you,

493
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 3: they obviously have to leave their their vehicle, their whatever,

494
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 3: and then that's when they rush in and loot and

495
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 3: pillage and then you escape and that's what they do.

496
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 3: So this is a trick that you do with the women.

497
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, that makes sense. So I

498
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 3: agreed to it, and he said, look, I'll make sure

499
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 3: it says closed to set as possible. You're going to

500
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 3: be up on the tower. You can wear like a

501
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 3: very small g stream and I was like, what about

502
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 3: the boobs And he's like, okay, well we can shoot

503
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 3: around that. And I said, would you be open to

504
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 3: me having I said, I was thinking for the character

505
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 3: anyway to because she's not going to the hair dresses

506
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: every because it's like, yeah, oog lips that she would

507
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 3: have this long mane of hair anyway that hasn't been

508
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 3: cut for years.

509
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all straggly.

510
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we could use that hair to cover boots

511
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 3: and boots.

512
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

513
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 3: He was like, brilliant idea. So we had all my

514
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 3: long hair extensions and everything. Of course, on the day,

515
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 3: it was howling with wind and I was trying to

516
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 3: stick hair to my chest with double sided tape, which

517
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 3: did not work at all because it was just just

518
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: so freezing and windy and it just blew away. So

519
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I'm go well with it.

520
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 3: And it ended up being fine. The cameras and the

521
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 3: angles and everything it was. It was fine. But yeah,

522
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 3: pretty confronting though.

523
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what was it? So you like you're on

524
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: a massive.

525
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: Hollywood movie really, Like what's the caliber of that?

526
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: Like, what's it all?

527
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: It's the best of the bets, like in terms of

528
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 3: the crew, and directors and directors of photography and actors,

529
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 3: and the cast was pretty impressive, pretty good and that.

530
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: So there's a bit of a backstory with that too.

531
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 3: So once I met George Miller when he with wonder Woman. Yeah,

532
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 3: so he cast me as wonder Woman and his film

533
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 3: never got made, which.

534
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: I saw the photos though.

535
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got to google the fight that you look

536
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: like it was my costume.

537
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 3: Yes, we were so close to doing it. It's like

538
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: a three picture deal like it would have been, that

539
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 3: would be DC comics.

540
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are like designed for wonder Woman.

541
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: Have been fun, but yeah, it wasn't to be. But

542
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 3: when was that because of the writer's strike the writers strike.

543
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: It was also because of I think during that time

544
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: when we were going to make that film and then

545
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 3: it got put on hold, Christopher Nolan ended up making Batman,

546
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: and then he I think had some there were some

547
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 3: issues between because we were going to have Batman in

548
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: our universe. It was going to be a different Batman,

549
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 3: like an active by the name of Armie Hammer. So

550
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: there was going to be two Batmans floating around, and

551
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 3: so it ended up getting very complicated and multiple reasons

552
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: why it didn't happen. But when George kind of had

553
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 3: to let everyone know, look it's not happening.

554
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: I'm really sorry.

555
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 3: He said to me, I still want to work with

556
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 3: you one day, and I promise you that we will.

557
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: And then he not long after that, well, when he

558
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 3: finished with Justice League ended up not happening, he threw himself.

559
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: Into Fury Road.

560
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 3: So it was years before it actually got made because

561
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 3: he was going to shoot it out in the.

562
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 2: Desert in Australia.

563
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 3: But then when it came time, so he was talking

564
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: to me about a role in Fury Road, but then

565
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: when it came to shoot, there'd been all this precedented

566
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: rainfall and it was all like wildflowers and didn't.

567
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: Look post A totally at all. So then they kind

568
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: of went.

569
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 3: Back to the drawing board and then I think there

570
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: was some casting issues around who was going to be

571
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: Max and Furiosa and all of that. So then when

572
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,239
Speaker 3: they finally got it together and went to shoot, they

573
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 3: chose Namibia.

574
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: So that's where I ended up shooting.

575
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: Was it so much fun doing like Red car you

576
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: did Red Carpet in La Yeah, it was like so

577
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: so much fun.

578
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

579
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: It was so fun to be a part of it's

580
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 3: so fun to be part of the shoot and go

581
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 3: out and live in Namibia for a month, which was

582
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: an unusual place to go, very very cool. And then

583
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: there was it took a long while, like post production

584
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: took a while.

585
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: So we finished.

586
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: I finished filming my part end of October twenty twelve

587
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 3: and the film hits cinemas May twenty fifteen.

588
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, So it was like a couple of years

589
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 2: two and a half years ago. Did you have to

590
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: keep it quiet? Was it all embargoed? Sorry? Is having

591
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: a sup of water?

592
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: Because I remember when I remember when you were posting

593
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 1: about it, when it was all like showtime like it

594
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: was it was out, it was Yeah.

595
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: I think.

596
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: It got out somehow that I was involved, so then

597
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 3: I could talk about it. Yeah, but it was that

598
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 3: was probably about it eighteen months before it came out,

599
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: I think.

600
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: So random question you So I feel like acting and

601
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: modeling quite two different ballgames, although there's personas and things

602
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: like that. How do you it's a bit of crossover. Yeah, yeah,

603
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: how do you go? Like from modeling is like your

604
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: bread and button, you know what I mean, that's what

605
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: you've done for so long and then you're like, well,

606
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: hang on a second, I'm going to give acting a whirl.

607
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: And so that was anything. I gave it a whirl.

608
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: But I couldn't give it a whirl in the sense

609
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: of packing up, moving to La yeah, camping out.

610
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: There and giving it a red.

611
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: Hot go, because I think, I think me because I

612
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: did have an existing career that was still going, and

613
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: as we've spoke about earlier, it took.

614
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: A while to get going.

615
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: So I wasn't going to just abandon that to move

616
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: and dedicate my whole move to another country and dedicate

617
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: my whole life to this craft when I'd work so

618
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 3: long and hard to get that because as everyone would know,

619
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: moving over to Hollywood and you're competing with the best

620
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: of the bears.

621
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: They say it takes three years to break exactly and minimum.

622
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: And so I would be, you know, letting go of

623
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 3: all this work and all this career that I built

624
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: up to a point to try my hand at something

625
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: that may or may not happen and then sort of

626
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: stall and then and then if it doesn't, then I've

627
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: lost my moment mentum with my previous career.

628
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: And then it was just to that just happened with

629
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: Aussies like that has a common a common thing that

630
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: you see or hear of happening. One more movie thing,

631
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: Well I can ask. I'm studying acting at the moment.

632
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: That's why I'm like, I've got to ask her about right,

633
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: just for I'm.

634
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: Just following my part at the moment. I'm like, what's

635
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: lighting me up?

636
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: This is lighting me up? Beautiful? I love it. You've

637
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: also been to can Film Festival. You have several times.

638
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: I think I've been three times, been three times? Is

639
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: it all because the ambassador of Lareo? Yeah? Yeah, what

640
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: is that light?

641
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: Because I've seen like video footage view on the red

642
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: carp and just like snap, snap snapsnapsnap, look like a glamozon.

643
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: That red carpet bit does not last that long really,

644
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: so you're all timed out like it's it's the most

645
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: insane red carpet you'll ever walk, and it is. It's

646
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: like I was shaking the first time I did it,

647
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 3: just out of adrenaline. Because the amount of media and

648
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 3: like the world's media is there and every sort of

649
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: pat pool, you know, entertaining photographer with the camera seems

650
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: to be there.

651
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 2: It's just flashing lights the whole time, and you're all

652
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: kind of.

653
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: Staggered in terms of your appearance, and you know, all

654
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: the loreal goals would go together and sort of go

655
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 3: on the carpet together at the same time, and you

656
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: literally have a spot that you stand on, you face

657
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 3: both ways, and then you move along. It's like this

658
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: little production line, but it's and it lasts about I

659
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: do less than five minutes and then are you free

660
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: to enjoy or are you, yeah, need to go to

661
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: films or you can go. Then some people don't go

662
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: to the film some people go and have drinks or

663
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: hop in a boat or do whatever they want. But

664
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: my schedule there was always really really hectic. So I

665
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: would literally land and then just do back to back

666
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: interviews all day for like two or three days, and

667
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: photo shoots and just everything, and then at the nighttime

668
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 3: go to the red carpet and do all of that.

669
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 3: So it was, yeah, getting like four or five hours

670
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,239
Speaker 3: sleep a night and just with jet lag, and then

671
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 3: you're basically on a plane back to Australia and then

672
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: doing press about what you've just done. So that's yeah,

673
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: it's a very busy week.

674
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: Because I watched the interview of you on the project

675
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: and you were like, yeah, I was for forty eight

676
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: hours and I was like, what's how your eyeballs open

677
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: right now?

678
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

679
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: It's mental you sleep on the plane. Wow, that it's crazy?

680
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

681
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: Crazy, so but fun. Great experience, really great experience.

682
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: So, speaking of great experiences and something you're so well

683
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: known for as TV hosts, so did you do Project.

684
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: Runway and Austroyia's Top Model? Yes? I did. Which one

685
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: did you co produce? So? I was that was with

686
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: Project Runway Australia.

687
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: So my question is is it confronting or hard to be?

688
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: Like I imagine being a TV host and being on

689
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 1: and knowing your AUTOQ pretty well or having an idea

690
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: of what the you know, the synopsis of the show

691
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: is that night being in here and makeup for an

692
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: hour plus before whatever it is, making sure you feel

693
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: good look at all that stuff. And then on top

694
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: of that, you're co producing it.

695
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you get a really the production companies are

696
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: so so good at what they do. They're such a

697
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: well oil machine. And so into starting the season, you've

698
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: got kind of an overview of all of the contestings

699
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: that are on the show and a very good understanding

700
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: of just the day to day runnings of the show,

701
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: so you kind of it doesn't really veer much from that,

702
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: Like it's pretty much a cut and paste each time.

703
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: So I think where that kind of.

704
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: Producing element comes in in a lot of post Okay,

705
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: so when you're there on the day and you're filming,

706
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 3: that's just a lot of me.

707
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: As host and you kind of got notes and.

708
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: Stuff as a host anyway to say, Okay, so this

709
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: happened this week with this person in the room and

710
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: their dress just fell apart and they had to scut

711
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: start from scratch, and so you're kind of you're getting

712
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: across all of the bones of what's happened in any

713
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: particular episode a week as you go, and then when

714
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: you go into editing and post production, you've kind of

715
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: got all of that still in the back of your head.

716
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, and I have to say, like it sounds

717
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: very glamorous and like a very big responsibility, but there

718
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: were very key two three executive producers that did the

719
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: bag on the work, and I was kind of, I

720
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: guess it consulted with it and but it's do you

721
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 3: know what I really love is And the same with

722
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: top Model to a point, even though with Top Model

723
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: I was.

724
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: A judge, but.

725
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: I really enjoy the mechanics of the back end of

726
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 3: a show.

727
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and all that bitty gritty.

728
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: It's almost the magic that makes for the creative that

729
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: everyone's you know, the actual content.

730
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: Like I like the pieces of the puzzles.

731
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: I like what's gone on, and I like would get

732
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 3: to set with Top Model and just being on the

733
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: judging panel, but I'd find, you know, track down some

734
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: crew and go what happened with so and so this

735
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 3: week and we left off with this last week?

736
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: What's happening? Is she okay? What's going on?

737
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 3: Especially with the young girls and modeling, because I felt

738
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 3: like a kind of a big sister to yeah to

739
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 3: kind of those maternal instincts were kicking in with wanting

740
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: to make sure they're okay. So I kind of liked

741
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: sort of tracking what would happen week on week.

742
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's that bigger picture like a producer as well. Yeah,

743
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: you've done so much. So that brings me to mum life. Yes,

744
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: so two bambinos, Yes, River and Rosie. My my biggest

745
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: question for you is like seeing all this and all

746
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: what we've already discussed like how on earth do you

747
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: find balance with like.

748
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 2: Work, family?

749
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: But then also Megan like, it's ha hard time and

750
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: balance is key for me. I'm one of those people

751
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: that if I don't have balance, I go off kilter,

752
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: like completely, if I work too much and I don't

753
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: have enough time with my kids, or if I have

754
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: so much time with my kids and my work, but

755
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: I haven't had time to get to Yoaks as we

756
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: love to go there, or I haven't had time to.

757
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: Be with my man just one on one.

758
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: Like if if it's off, then I feel it from

759
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: an emotional and mental standpoint. So I really do constantly

760
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: keep checking in and going, Okay, what's my week look like?

761
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 3: And I'm a stick for schedules to what's your start sign?

762
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:02,959
Speaker 2: Leo?

763
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: I use I'm a virgo Leo and Virgo's good, I'm

764
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: really well. Yeah, but virgos need the schedules. Yeah, Leo's

765
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: are fire, they are, but they need to be quite organized,

766
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: and that they need to be quite I'd say controlling,

767
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: but not so much over other people over their world.

768
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, moving arts. They need to control what's going on. Okay,

769
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: what can I do here? What can I do that Okay,

770
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: what's they don't just like leaving it up to the universe. Yes,

771
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: I believe in that, but I want to trust in

772
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: this too, code and then I'll let go.

773
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: So what's your How do you catch yourself? Like say,

774
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: you're like, I haven't been to yogs for two weeks,

775
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: so we haven't had date night for ages.

776
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: I've gotten really good at just again, it's the intuition

777
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: and just stopping and checking with myself, which this new

778
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 3: business with mindful life is a constant reminder for me

779
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: to do that because I've been programmed over the years.

780
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 3: I was telling someone about this not long ago that

781
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 3: with my old job and all these other things that

782
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: we've been talking about that I kind of don't do

783
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: as much anymore. But I used to do, like jumping

784
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: on planes, you know, being in front of TV cameras

785
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 3: on a movie set, overseeing a swimwear line, all these

786
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 3: different things requires you to just go, go, go, go.

787
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: Go jump at the opportunity.

788
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: Because I never had it when I was younger. So

789
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 3: there was that kind of I've got to just like, well,

790
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: I don't want to say yes to everything. All the

791
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: things that I do want to say yes to, I

792
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: want to do them, and as the universe would have it,

793
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 3: they often fall in at.

794
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: The same time.

795
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: So I just would just go, go, go, go, go

796
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 3: make hay Bo the sunshine. I can rest later, and

797
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: I would do it the detriment to my own health.

798
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 3: And so from that though, as I've gotten a bit older,

799
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: and especially since being becoming a mum where it's not

800
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: about me anymore, I have to check in with myself more.

801
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: I have to listen to myself more so I can

802
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: be the best mum. I can be the best businesswoman,

803
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 3: best partner, all of these things.

804
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 2: So it's kind of kept me on that track of.

805
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 3: Remind myself because this business constantly has this ethos behind

806
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: it and this messaging. It constantly makes me check in,

807
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: which is a great reminder.

808
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you want to live, breathe, walk, to talk. Absolutely.

809
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: I have had so much fun researching your new business.

810
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: So what I love, Yes, the Mindful Life the amazing

811
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: skincare range for kids, super gentle and natural.

812
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: But the Mindful Life Journal, the journal that's new.

813
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: And yesterday, just yesterday, you posted about breathing techniques.

814
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: A breathing technique the kids.

815
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's nothing, I guess groundbreaking or new. Haven't

816
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: reinvented the wheel, but it was just something that an

817
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: article I wanted to share because and as you would

818
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: know in anyone who does yogat would know that breath

819
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: is so important, and I think we often, like even

820
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: driving here this morning in traffic, I was like, I'm

821
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: holding all this tension in my gut and I'm breathing

822
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: up in my chests and I started to breathe into

823
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: my belly and I instantly I felt so rot I

824
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: dropped and I was like, oh my god.

825
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: And I kept doing it for some reason. I kept tensing.

826
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: I was like, why am I doing that?

827
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: And when you're doing that, you're so present, and when

828
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: you're present, you're aware, totally conscious, and it's so important.

829
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 3: So when kids have little meltdowns or they get upset

830
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 3: over whatever it might be, they sort of do this

831
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 3: breathing and crying thing where they start hyperventilating. I was

832
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: trying to go what happened, what's wrong? And they can't

833
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: even look, just like they can't even speak, or they're

834
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: trying to speak.

835
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: And you just cannot understand them.

836
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: And I remember when he did it, when he was

837
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 3: a toddler and he was at a point where he

838
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 3: could talk and he could understand me, and I was like, okay,

839
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: and I was just thinking, I've got to get him

840
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 3: to breathe into his tummy and calm him down.

841
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: It was almost like.

842
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: Something that just clicked in me, this maternal instinct to

843
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 3: just Okay, this is what you need to do. Look

844
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: into my eyes and just breathe. Breathe into my hands.

845
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: And he calmed down so quickly, and we could talk

846
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 3: about it. And it's the same thing I use it.

847
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: He's done something where he's been a bit naughty and

848
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: I've told him off and send him to his room,

849
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: which he hates because he hates me being that. Yeah,

850
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: he'll start crying and I'll be like you, you go

851
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: to your room. And now he does it automatically, So

852
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: go to a room. Do you breathing, and then when

853
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: you've calmed down, come to me. We'll talk about it,

854
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: because no one can reason with a person losing their mind.

855
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: We all need to be.

856
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: Calm to have at amazing And he'll do it now.

857
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: And now Rosie does it, so she's obviously not as

858
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: advanced in it, but she will. She got upset last

859
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: night because she was. I told her to leave the

860
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: catalan and she wouldn't, and the cat ended up having.

861
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: A swipe at her. Didn't get her, but it shocked her.

862
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 3: Now the first time the cats had to go at her,

863
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 3: and it broke her heart and she was crying and

864
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 3: she couldn't breathe properly, and I was like, sweety deep breaths,

865
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: deep breath for mama, and she did it, and she

866
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: sort of.

867
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: She's just dropped me.

868
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: And so you know, these things with parenting, you've got

869
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 3: to be very careful because you don't want to be like,

870
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: I know all there.

871
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 2: Is to know about parenting, listen to me.

872
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 3: But I think when you've got something that's worked for you,

873
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 3: it's good to share it because even if one person benefits,

874
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: I was like, oh that's great, then that's worth it.

875
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 3: So you've got to trial these things and see how

876
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Speaker 3: you go.

877
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I love about.

878
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: And I've spent a fair bit of time yessay on

879
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: the Mindful Life Journal and this idea that it's kind

880
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: of like there's no real hard and fast rules.

881
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: It's just a go to guide. Correct it's not a blog.

882
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, it could be as busy as a Blogergau.

883
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: As you know, it's just like it's hard, full on

884
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: and as constant content.

885
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: And I definitely also that it would have just sort

886
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: of be throwing stuff at people where it becomes overwhelming.

887
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: But by the same token, I think, you know, there's

888
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: so much out there with and this is part of

889
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: the inspiration behind it. There's so many wonderful sources of

890
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 3: information with health and beauty and fashion and fitness, and

891
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: I wanted to grow similar to wanting to grow the

892
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 3: space of natural and safe products for kids, I wanted

893
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: to grow the mindful of space. And that's for people

894
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: who whether they have kids or not. Everything that we

895
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 3: will put up on the journal has this kind of

896
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: undercurrent of mindfulness to it, whether it's mindful of what

897
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: you're eating, mindful of your time management, mindful of how

898
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: you manage your business, mindful of how you move.

899
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: Your body, or parenting or whatever. It is.

900
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 3: So every now and then we'll pop something up and

901
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 3: let everyone know it's there, and it's got this.

902
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: Really beautiful tone to it. It's like it's like health,

903
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: well being, mindfulness.

904
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: And then I went down the rabbit hole looking at

905
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: all your amazing products, and I just love that there's

906
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: this Do you know of Dak Shepherd and Kristen Beal

907
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: and they've got a baby range together.

908
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: I did not know that in America.

909
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: Though, yes, yeah, but their story is very similar, Like

910
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: it's like we just wanted good quality products.

911
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: They're not here. Yes, your Australia. You have Australia, they

912
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: can have.

913
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: But it's so nice to see it's coming from the source,

914
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 1: like as in you're a mama bear. You know what's

915
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: worked and what hasn't worked. You believe in it because

916
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: you use it. And again it's that idea of like

917
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: walking the talk, and that's what I love about it.

918
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 2: And even I was like, oh, man, like I wonder

919
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: if I can use this.

920
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: On me And the next minute I see a little

921
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: video of you going the balm, which it is.

922
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: The barm One. So no, that's it too.

923
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: And I think for me when I had River there

924
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: was obviously wanted to be very conscious of what I

925
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: was putting on his skin, and there were some great

926
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 3: brands out there, but I thought, there's not. I want

927
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: to be spoilt for choice here and I want to

928
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 3: be I want to contribute to growing that space. And

929
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: so that's how it initially set out, but then I

930
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 3: think with that whole message of mindfulness that came in,

931
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: not just mindful of how I'm making the products and

932
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 3: how the ingredients are sourced, but it was mindful of

933
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: how they're being used, not rushing through baftime and not

934
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 3: rushing through those beautiful moments when you're bonding, which you're

935
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 3: often using these types of products. Yeah, and that kind

936
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: of was where the name was born and why I

937
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: love it.

938
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Speaker 2: I love it.

939
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: And I was watching on it the other day and

940
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: you were like, guys, start up life and you see

941
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: someone to place an order and I've got a product

942
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: as well, and so you know, it's like if an

943
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: order gets missed and you track it on Australia Post,

944
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: you track it and everything, and you're like, where's this

945
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: order gone? And I hadn't had that in six months

946
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: of yeah, which is probably like I've got a lot

947
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: of great messages from some of my followers on Instagram

948
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: who are like, oh my god, had that happen with

949
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: my business? And I was like, Wow, I'm actually lucky

950
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: it's taken six months, because apparently it's quite common that

951
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: just there's like a gremlin or like a little glitch

952
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: where it just goes oh yeah, yeah, that's happened with

953
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: me with books with But the thing I loved about

954
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: you you were like, look, i've seen this person's in Melbourne. Guys,

955
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to drive over and personally be a weirdo

956
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: and go to it.

957
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 2: Amazing. I was just like, whoa you know?

958
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: And that again is a testament to not just you,

959
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: but also this product that you have created. And to

960
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: me it is more than a practice your heart and

961
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: sharing cities.

962
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 2: It's very personal for me. Oh my goodness, we've got

963
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 2: five minutes left together. Okay, So my question is now.

964
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: Is we did say this was about failure or lessons

965
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: and you.

966
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: Were like, I've had heaps of lessons, No worry.

967
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: Is there any that we haven't touched on that You're like,

968
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: I did have this in mind. I wanted to chat

969
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,919
Speaker 1: about this theme.

970
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: There's a few.

971
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Speaker 3: I think that there was a few that I had,

972
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: so I'll try and sort of whizz through them without

973
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 3: kind of chopping out the essence of it. But I

974
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 3: think going back to what we touched on when I

975
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 3: started out with modeling, and it was a really hard

976
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 3: slog for me. If my family and friends behind in Perth.

977
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: I went moved to Sydney from the age of nineteen

978
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: and I was very much a small fish in a

979
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 3: big pond, and it took me a lot of time,

980
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: a lot of money, a lot of effort, a lot

981
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: of energy, a lot of.

982
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: Not backs to actually make it. And I think while.

983
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: You could say, oh, you've failed for five years before

984
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 3: you actually got somewhere, I think what that five years

985
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: of not being successful taught.

986
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 2: Me was resilience and persistence.

987
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 3: Which are two very big qualities I think of my

988
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 3: personality that I think was born then and really got

989
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 3: nurtured then because I was like so tenacious, like a

990
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: dog with a bone, because I knew, I knew in

991
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 3: my gut and I knew in my bones that there

992
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 3: was something bigger out there for me, and I just

993
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: had to stick at it. And I listened to that

994
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: and I was unwavering with my commitment to that, which

995
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 3: from the age of say eighteen nineteen to twenty three,

996
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 3: I think to have Now I look back and I'm

997
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: going like, wow, I was just a baby then, so

998
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 3: to listen to myself and be quiet. A lot of

999
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 3: people going from like my mum and my dad, like

1000
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: we know we believe in you, but should you be

1001
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: thinking about something else. It's been quite a few years

1002
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 3: and you're burning through money, and yeah, well you're getting disheartsed.

1003
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: I kept going back to Perth, kept going back to Perth,

1004
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: kept borrowing money off mum and dad. It was very

1005
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 3: soul destroying, and they, I think from being parents, they

1006
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: were I think, really over seeing me so disheartened, and

1007
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 3: I just kept saying, I can't explain it. I'm just

1008
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 3: going to stick out it because I feel like it's coming.

1009
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: It's coming, and it did. So it taught me to

1010
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 3: be really persistent. Absolutely.

1011
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: I think another lesson I learned was with.

1012
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 3: My health and to really I and this is before

1013
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 3: I started on Mindful Life, and I think was one

1014
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 3: of the inspirations behind it, of being more mindful and

1015
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 3: checking with myself on every level, whether it's my mental health,

1016
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 3: my immune health, my gut health, aside from a lot

1017
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: of other areas. But I really burnt myself out in

1018
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen when I was doing Top Model and now

1019
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 3: I had the most grueling schedule.

1020
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: I was flying back and forth. I was pregnant at

1021
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: the time too, which ended up miscarrying.

1022
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: I was sick for most of that whole shoot, and

1023
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 3: I really just I didn't say no enough, and I

1024
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: just kept pushing myself and pushing myself, and it had

1025
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: very bad repercussions from a health perspective. So that taught

1026
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 3: me to check in with myself more. I could have

1027
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 3: definitely done things too. I'm a doer and I like

1028
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: to do things myself, and I find it very hard

1029
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: sometimes to delegate and I forget that I can, And

1030
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: so that taught me to take my load off a

1031
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 3: lot more.

1032
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: Still, be busy if you have to.

1033
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 3: If you've committed to something and you're contracted, you have

1034
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: to do it, but then try and navigate around that so.

1035
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: You can reduce your load. Don't feel bad about it.

1036
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: So I really learned from falling down in a heap

1037
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 3: that I could have done it differently and done it better.

1038
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 2: I think. Also, miscarriage is crazy, dude.

1039
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: I mean as far as like the pain, the grief,

1040
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: all of that to be able to also emotionally a

1041
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: compartment not compartmentalized. But you're in the middle of that

1042
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: a big shoot, you're going through a massive loss a

1043
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: part of you, and then understanding letting go of that

1044
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: and then going.

1045
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: Okay and having to keep it to yourself because they're

1046
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 3: so private and you're a public person and you just

1047
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 3: wanted to deal with it first before it's Yeah, it was,

1048
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 3: but it taught me a lot, and I guess the

1049
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 3: one last thing was I've learnt through and again we

1050
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: touched on it a bit earlier about listening to listening

1051
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 3: to my gut more, especially when it comes to business.

1052
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 3: And even if you can, I think put all those

1053
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: parameters and all those elements in place to safeguard yourself,

1054
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 3: still just sometimes there's been times where I didn't listen

1055
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: to my gut with there's some warning bells where I've

1056
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: been pretty good with it, but there were some warning

1057
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 3: bells that I didn't listen to because I thought, oh,

1058
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: you're not being trusting enough.

1059
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: You've got to trust and let go. Not everyone's out

1060
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: to get you.

1061
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 3: Not everyone's out to pull a fast one on you,

1062
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 3: but sometimes and it's really hard. It's really hard to

1063
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 3: separate what's your gut and what's intuition and what's just fear.

1064
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: Totally, it's a very blurry long.

1065
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: Also, I think from a business perspective, you're like the beautiful,

1066
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: pretty lovely girl from Australia.

1067
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

1068
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: You've got this like nice like part of your whole

1069
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: personality is this lovely person So people are gonna be

1070
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: like sharky with that and go, yeah, she's gonna do

1071
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,959
Speaker 1: whatever we need at this rate, and we'll take whatever

1072
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: we can from that. She'll be chill with it because

1073
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: she's just really pretty.

1074
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, not so not so chill. Yeah my main Maine.

1075
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: I love it. Lessons. I could have talked to you

1076
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: for age and you are so unreal.

1077
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: Anyone listening to this check out mind for Life journal

1078
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: and mindful Life the.

1079
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: Mindful life dot com. You can find it there. And

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00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: you're the best. So I'm all the best.

1081
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: You've been on my wish list for so long, so

1082
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: it's such an honor to have you here, and it's

1083
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: actually just.

1084
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: Such a You're a very joyful person. Thank you, so

1085
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 2: you it's easy when it's you. Love done.

1086
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Face. As always,

1087
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

1088
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: on Instagram.

1089
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 2: I'm at Yamo Lollaberry.

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00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: This potty my word for podcast is available on all

1091
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: streaming platforms. I'd love it if you could subscribe, rate

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Speaker 1: and comment and of course spread the love.