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Speaker 1: This is a Will and Woody podcast.

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Speaker 2: Ninni Big News Today, Rebel Wilson announces the birth of

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Speaker 2: her first child, Royce Lillian, born last week and nobody

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Speaker 2: had any idea that she was having a baby because

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Speaker 2: she wasn't pregnant. Her daughter was born by surrogate. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: how do you think they would feel wards to give

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Speaker 2: back to somebody else?

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Speaker 3: I obviously have no idea. No very good.

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Speaker 2: I thought you'd say that, And that's why we've got

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Speaker 2: Simone on the phone.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: So Simone, we found.

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Speaker 2: You on a surrogacy Facebook page. You've you've been surrogate twice?

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Speaker 2: Was that for the same couple of a different couple?

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Speaker 2: Each time?

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Speaker 1: It was for two different families? Right?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Can I go straight down to Simone in the moment

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Speaker 4: where so you give birth to the beautiful baby and

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Speaker 4: what's that like for you when that happened? So the

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Speaker 4: baby's out? Firstly, what happened? And secondly what's that? What

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Speaker 4: was that like for you? Just emotionally?

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Speaker 1: Firstly it's a relief to be not in laboring law

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Speaker 1: of course. Secondly emotionally, the first time I carried I

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Speaker 1: was a bit nervous going into the birth because I

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Speaker 1: I had, Yes, I've had my own daughter before. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect to feel anything towards the baby. But

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Speaker 1: throughout the pregnancy I understood that I really loved this baby.

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Speaker 1: It was never a question in my mind that I

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Speaker 1: to go back to her parents. Yeah, And so I

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Speaker 1: was quite I had the firm plans about the birth

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Speaker 1: and what I wanted, and I'd asked that she be

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Speaker 1: handed to me after she was birthed, and I could

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Speaker 1: hand her to her parents in my own time. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Wow, so you set up those boundaries beforehand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It was nerves, and it was a way of

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Speaker 1: And so she was handed to me after I birthed her,

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Speaker 1: and I looked at her and I thought, wow, you

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Speaker 1: to go to your mum.

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Speaker 3: Now, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Was never she never felt like my baby. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: the same as when I burst my own child.

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Speaker 3: Was she your was was it was?

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Speaker 1: It?

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Speaker 2: Was it your egg smile?

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Speaker 1: No, I was a gestational character egg.

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Speaker 2: Okay, because there is a there is a differentiation there, right,

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Speaker 2: So you can be artificially inseminated with a like a

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Speaker 2: pre prepared embryo. Effectively, he's like Jamie Oliver, he's one

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Speaker 2: I prepared earlier and put that in the oven, or

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Speaker 2: you or you use your own embryos.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so sorry, your own eggs, your own eggs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, so that probably paid a part in it.

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Speaker 1: I personally don't.

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Speaker 3: Question actually, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I stumbled into this book or neither has any

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Speaker 2: idea that so that doesn't play a part in it.

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Speaker 1: You don't think whether I haven't been a traditional surrogate,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if I'm qualified to speak about it.

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Speaker 3: But I have.

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Speaker 1: Friends who has carried as a traditional surrogate, and their

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Speaker 1: It was never our baby.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I personally have just watched my beautiful

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Speaker 4: know there was there was beauty in that journey, but

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Speaker 3: To go through. Can I ask someone you've done this twice.

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Speaker 4: Now you've you've carried, You've been a surrogate for two

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Speaker 3: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 1: It started out I heard a friend's cousin was trying

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Speaker 2: That soul, So you you didn't sort of find yourself

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Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, it sounds weird when you say it like.

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Speaker 3: That, but no, no answers. Hey, Simone, We've got a

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Speaker 2: But I know, I know because I want to talk

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Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't put it so brillally like that.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said in the meeting. Still you said,

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Speaker 3: And we're gonna put.

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Speaker 2: It, mate, We're gonna're gonna well, I wouldn't call that,

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Speaker 2: but we're gonna put it to the test. Right up

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Speaker 2: next to Mone and stay with us, Eli, We're joined

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Speaker 2: by Simone, who is a sorry get Muman's fascinating chat.

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Speaker 3: We've got more Christians for up next to will them.

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Speaker 2: We big story today Rebel Wilson announcing birth of her

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Speaker 2: first child, Royce Lily, and everyone's a bit confused because

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Speaker 2: I decided very quickly we are in no way qualified

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Speaker 2: called Simone who joins on the show right now, Simon, thanks.

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Speaker 3: So much for coming back. Simone has been.

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Speaker 2: A surrogate for two separate daughters, two different families, on

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Speaker 2: this point, and I find this sowing. As what he's

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Speaker 1: I guess it's not so much that you just shout

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Speaker 1: I joined a community, a good community where you know,

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Speaker 1: She was considering moving away from Saragacy at that time

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Speaker 3: It's just is so it is amazing gesture.

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Speaker 4: Now moving on from amazing gesture, though, someone, are you

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Speaker 1: Yes, I am, you are.

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Speaker 3: What's her name, Marian?

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Speaker 3: It is such a big journey to go through all

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Speaker 4: if you are you open to doing this, Simone, Yes, okay, great, okay,

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Speaker 4: So maybe maybe you can just call her and say, hey, hey,

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Speaker 3: Is that something you could do for me?

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Speaker 3: Maybe you can say that you've got some hemorrhoids.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you're going to call Marian, so it's coming

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, hello here it's making some weird beeping noise.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, Mar.

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Speaker 3: We were we were just testing the theory.

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Speaker 4: We had Simone on our show talking about being your

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Speaker 4: because Simone has done this incredible for you and it

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Speaker 3: Relationship between the two of you.

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Speaker 4: But because she's done a few, technically she can ask

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Speaker 3: And you've just proved that theory.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, it's true. It's true.

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Speaker 2: We want to take a really beautiful relationship and contaminate

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