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Speaker 1: Australia's cricketers as they take on the world. Hello, welcome
Speaker 1: to The Unplayable Podcast. An ultimate episode of the season
Speaker 1: here and we're very excited to bring it to you.
Speaker 1: We've got a big show coming up with Martin Love,
Speaker 1: the Sheffield Shield Final specialist. We've got to chat with
Speaker 1: him coming up, and plenty of other stuff as well
Speaker 1: as we look forward to that Sheffield Shield Final between
Speaker 1: Victoria and South Australia. My name is josh Onafinger. Joined
Speaker 1: us always by Caine Richardson. Rich O, you must be
Speaker 1: pumped ahead of this week's Grand Final.
Speaker 2: Well it is, and you said it's penultimate. It's gone.
Speaker 2: Time flies, doesn't it when you're having fun. There's been
Speaker 2: so much good cricket to talk about. We're getting to
Speaker 2: the point end I've said his Trophy season for like
Speaker 2: three weeks in a row now. We're obviously waiting for
Speaker 2: the Shill Final to begin and there's been some talking
Speaker 2: points leading into that which I'm sure we'll get to,
Speaker 2: but yeah, looking forward to.
Speaker 1: It, I have been. Yes, we'll touch on the selections
Speaker 1: and the top players so far this season and all
Speaker 1: those things, but first we should get to this week's
Speaker 1: weekly winner. Do you want to take us away? We're
Speaker 1: going up two of these.
Speaker 2: Ago, I feel like I will. I'll take this one.
Speaker 1: All right. Yeah, the clan's come down in your favor.
Speaker 2: Gold Coast Dolphins. Oh yeah, you've gone there too. Now
Speaker 2: you live on the Gold Coast. Now, I was a
Speaker 2: previous residents, played some games to the Dolphins, so actually
Speaker 2: choked on my breakfast when I didn't actually I wasn't
Speaker 2: following the live stream. Apologies, boys, But when I read
Speaker 2: the scorecard, this is the final of it, so I
Speaker 2: didn't even final. So again, apologies, I've really removed myself
Speaker 2: from the WhatsApp group.
Speaker 3: But they've made the final.
Speaker 2: Lost the toss two for one early, I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if it was the first over first or second over
Speaker 2: two for one.
Speaker 1: Good start by the Northern Suburbs start and like do.
Speaker 2: You know the win predictor, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: the third wicket falls at six hundred and thirty six
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty nine run partnership.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Now there's days in the field on weekends.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I haven't played a lot of club cricket, but I
Speaker 2: reckon there's days in the field or in the dugout
Speaker 2: that you're questioning, why why are you doing this? You're
Speaker 2: giving up your weekend. You might work Monday to Friday.
Speaker 2: Imagine how many thoughts would go through your head when
Speaker 2: you're fielding a deep square leg or deep point watching
Speaker 2: Hugo Burden and Steven or Stephan Muller. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: I've never met the Mollel's work. I've never come across him.
Speaker 2: But two hundred and seventy two not out for him
Speaker 2: and then for Hugo Burden. Three hundred and forty that's
Speaker 2: a big day. That's Madden two days.
Speaker 1: I think it's the second highest score in Brisbane or
Speaker 1: Queensland great cricket history.
Speaker 2: Behind Matt Renshaw. Is that right three end of forty five.
Speaker 2: There's something with queens and club cricket. They churn him
Speaker 2: out and it's a four day final, which I'm not
Speaker 2: sure other states do. I know South Australa didn't do.
Speaker 2: That was a two day final.
Speaker 1: So now you've got this situation where I have to
Speaker 1: wait a whole week back.
Speaker 2: And lose training. Imagine training this week and they're already
Speaker 2: three down there three for thirty. So I do like
Speaker 2: four day final, but over two weeks it's You've got
Speaker 2: a lot to think about during the wag. So batting
Speaker 2: hours only at training this week. But my weekly winner
Speaker 2: is the Dolphins. Hugo Burden, as I said, not familiar
Speaker 2: with Steven or Stephan Muller, so I'll try and get
Speaker 2: around him. Beat Matthew Mott and Andrew Son's previous record
Speaker 2: of founder in forty six. Only they beat it.
Speaker 3: They've they've humped it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so well do Yeah, well done to Hugo. Twelve
Speaker 1: six's in his knock as well, just pretty handy, and
Speaker 1: thirty fourths as well. Interestingly, those two bad as Burden
Speaker 1: and Mahla both faced exactly four hundred and ninety two balls,
Speaker 1: really shared the love neurology.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. I wonder if his relation to Scott, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I wonder because he I know he was a Gold
Speaker 2: Coast previous Gold Coast Dolphin as well.
Speaker 1: So the alumnist Dolphins is pretty strong.
Speaker 2: It is pretty strong. So anyway, look for a game.
Speaker 2: Maybe don't go to the Gold Coast they're pretty strong.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, that was my weekly winner as well. We'd
Speaker 1: often don't double up, so maybe it's a good sign
Speaker 1: that we're thinking along the same Waveley.
Speaker 2: Yours could be the guy who took the three far
Speaker 2: for Northern Suburbs.
Speaker 1: Yes, Scaley, he's every WEEKNDS. He needed a few more
Speaker 1: mates though. But speaking of big performers in finals, obviously
Speaker 1: Hugo Burden is now on that list with his three
Speaker 1: hundred and forty. But but Love, he did it across
Speaker 1: eleven finals for the Queensland Bulls. He made over one
Speaker 1: thousand and sorry one one hundred runs in Shield finals alone,
Speaker 1: including five centuries. And he also was part of that
Speaker 1: team that we spoke about last week that made six
Speaker 1: for nine hundred against Victoria. I asked him about that
Speaker 1: and a few of his other highlights from playing in
Speaker 1: all those finals and he's the chat with him now.
Speaker 1: Now we won't see Queensland in this year's Sheffield Shield Final,
Speaker 1: but we do get to speak to some Sheffield Shield
Speaker 1: royalty who played all his cricket with the Bulls. It's
Speaker 1: Martin Love Welcome to the unplayable Martin. How are you, mate?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm very well. Thanks thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: No problem at all. You've been out of cricket for
Speaker 1: a little while, but you've been managing to stay involved
Speaker 1: via physiotherapy. Can you talk us through what you're up
Speaker 1: to these days?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So yeah, once I finished playing, I work for Queensland
Speaker 4: Cricket for my thirteen years and that sort of that's
Speaker 4: changed back to working in a private practice for the
Speaker 4: last two years now, so out of the Queensland Cricket
Speaker 4: for the moment. Just yeah, it's working in a family
Speaker 4: practice like a family physioclinic essentially in Brisbane and enjoying that.
Speaker 3: But trying to still doing a bit with cricket Australia.
Speaker 4: I was lucky enough to travel to Africa with the
Speaker 4: Australia Under nine en team to the World Cup back
Speaker 4: in January, so I was with that. So that was
Speaker 4: a great trip and a good experience. So I'm still
Speaker 4: doing bits and pieces here and they're still involved in cricket.
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. Was that something that you were studying as
Speaker 1: you were playing or was just something that came to
Speaker 1: you when your cricket career was finished.
Speaker 4: Now. I was studying Cusier when I was playing, so
Speaker 4: back in the nineties, which was a lot easier than
Speaker 4: because the training commitments weren't as great as they are now.
Speaker 4: So we basically, you know, most people either worked or
Speaker 4: studied essentially, and.
Speaker 3: That's that's what we did.
Speaker 4: So I managed to get my degree out of the
Speaker 4: way in the early part of my career, and then.
Speaker 3: Once I finished playing in two thousand.
Speaker 4: And nine, I went back and did both physio Masters
Speaker 4: and then worked from with Queensley Cricket from there. So yeah,
Speaker 4: it's been a very cricket heavy life so far.
Speaker 1: Okay, So for those who aren't as familiar with the
Speaker 1: Martin love story, there's plenty of stats to dial into here.
Speaker 1: Over two hundred first class matches, over ten thousand first
Speaker 1: class runs for Queensland, five Test matches in there as well,
Speaker 1: and over a thousand runs in Sheffield Shield finals. In fact,
Speaker 1: Martin here played in eleven even Shield finals, including eight
Speaker 1: in a row between nineteen ninety nine and two thousand
Speaker 1: and six. Martin, what was it like to be seemingly
Speaker 1: always in the biggest game of the season.
Speaker 4: Well, Queensland and that generation or those years we had
Speaker 4: a very good side and that's probably because the Australian
Speaker 4: Test side was very settled as well. I had some
Speaker 4: very good players in it, so we tended to keep
Speaker 4: a very good side on the park most years, which
Speaker 4: culminated in Shield finals at the end of most seasons
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 3: So that's always that's what you know.
Speaker 4: You play obviously to enjoy the game, but to have
Speaker 4: to make it to finals at the end of the
Speaker 4: season is always a really good way to finish the season.
Speaker 4: Often to play in so many, you know, was a great,
Speaker 4: great achievement, I guess, but also great experience in each
Speaker 4: one of them tells their own story absolutely. Now let's
Speaker 4: get into some of those individual matches, which includes Queensland's
Speaker 4: first ever Sheffield Shield victory in nineteen ninety four ninety
Speaker 4: five defeated South Australia innings and Martin. You got one
Speaker 4: hundred and forty six in the first innings. What do
Speaker 4: your memories from that game? Well, there's a lot of
Speaker 4: I guess queens that had been in plenty of finals
Speaker 4: up to that stage, we had never quite quite gotten
Speaker 4: across the line, plenty of heartbreak. There's some stories, you know,
Speaker 4: footage of Queensland playing New South Wales, the s cg
Speaker 4: of not being able to get the last wicket to
Speaker 4: win the game. And then obviously as these sort of
Speaker 4: years went on, you know, to not having won for
Speaker 4: you know, over sixty years, you know, the precious sort
Speaker 4: of kept building. So to then get a finally get
Speaker 4: a home final, which is the first time we'd managed
Speaker 4: to achieve that and have that played at the Gaber
Speaker 4: in front of home crowds made you know, made things
Speaker 4: a lot easier for us. And then you know, we
Speaker 4: got off to a good start and I guess, you know,
Speaker 4: once we sort of got our noses in front, we
Speaker 4: were always always going to get a come away with
Speaker 4: the victory, you know, and then we've got six hundred
Speaker 4: and sixty four in our first innings and it's pretty
Speaker 4: hard to lose from there.
Speaker 1: You spoke about always coming second in Queensland's poor record
Speaker 1: in finals to that point. Were you guys as a
Speaker 1: playing group aware of the pressure. We're feeling the pressure
Speaker 1: and was there a lot of expectation coming from outside
Speaker 1: the group as well?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: I was, well where in the history growing up, I
Speaker 4: grew up on a cattle property, so the only thing
Speaker 4: we had to win totain ourselves was ABC TV and
Speaker 4: ABC Radio. So in those days, the test matches were
Speaker 4: on ABC TV and all the Shield games were on
Speaker 4: ABC Radio. So we'd always have a lot of travel
Speaker 4: to get to cricket matches, so we'd always be listening
Speaker 4: to the radio.
Speaker 3: And you know, you hear about.
Speaker 4: All those those heartbreaks of getting so close but never
Speaker 4: quite getting over the line. And so did well and
Speaker 4: truly aware of the history being in Queensland and not
Speaker 4: winning it up and you know, for a number of years.
Speaker 4: So that expectation of you know, not so much the
Speaker 4: pre well, both the previous players that have played to
Speaker 4: queens that but also the rest of all the Queenslanders
Speaker 4: that you had been ridden those highs and lows as well.
Speaker 4: Had that expectation and pressure from them to come away
Speaker 4: with a win was certainly felt.
Speaker 1: And now after Paul Jackson took the winning wicket of
Speaker 1: Jason Gillespie and the drought had been broken, I'm guessing
Speaker 1: quite a few of those pass players joined in the
Speaker 1: celebrations with you guys.
Speaker 3: We had a lot in the dressing room that night.
Speaker 4: I mean, at that stage, the gabble was getting knocked
Speaker 4: down to get ready for the two thousand Olympics, so
Speaker 4: we only had sort of half the stadium available for spectators.
Speaker 4: So our dressing room was actually in the old Brisbane
Speaker 4: Lions building on the opposite side where our normal dressing
Speaker 4: rooms were, so which was quite good because it was
Speaker 4: quite big. So that allowed a lot of people to
Speaker 4: come in after the game. And there was lots of
Speaker 4: past players that had been through matches that they hadn't
Speaker 4: you know, finals at the had managed to win, and
Speaker 4: that sort of disappointment of not being able to win
Speaker 4: the shield for the first.
Speaker 3: Time for Queensland.
Speaker 4: So we shared it, certainly shared it with them, and
Speaker 4: to be fair, the celebrations did go on for a
Speaker 4: number of weeks.
Speaker 3: It wasn't just one night.
Speaker 1: You were involved in a lot of victories after this
Speaker 1: one as well, Martin. But imagine it would have been
Speaker 1: tough to beat this one in terms of how great
Speaker 1: the celebrations were.
Speaker 4: Oh, I look, the first one was special, you know,
Speaker 4: and that's not it wasn't so much for us, it
Speaker 4: was for all our families then, as I said, the
Speaker 4: past players and the rest of Queensland who'd grown up
Speaker 4: not watching Queensland win the.
Speaker 3: Sheffield Shield, so you know we were lucky.
Speaker 4: We got to take the Sheffield Shield around the state
Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks after that. The government gave
Speaker 4: us one of their planes that we could fly around
Speaker 4: and so we did trips up the coast and then
Speaker 4: out to out west into some of the country towns.
Speaker 4: So we felt as though we could get the Sheffield
Speaker 4: Shield back to all those country places that had supported
Speaker 4: us over many years.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's very cool. In fact now, as you said,
Speaker 1: it started a period of real dominance for Queensland and
Speaker 1: the Bulls won three titles in a row between two
Speaker 1: thousand and two thousand and two. And then you took
Speaker 1: part in one of the great finals that we've seen
Speaker 1: in this competition, New South Wales and Queensland. The Blues
Speaker 1: won by just one wicket in a low scoring match.
Speaker 1: Nathan Bracken and Stuart McGill got the final twenty two
Speaker 1: runs needed. What was it like? That must have been
Speaker 1: a real hard stopper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a very obviously devastating for us with
Speaker 3: the finish.
Speaker 4: That game had a lot of twists and turns to
Speaker 4: it was played on a wicket I think they'd been
Speaker 4: weather leading into the final, so the wicket didn't get
Speaker 4: as much preparation as the grounds one would have liked,
Speaker 4: so it was certainly a little bit more bowl or friendly,
Speaker 4: and I think the scores probably reflected that there was
Speaker 4: only I think two a couple of innings over fifty
Speaker 4: for the game.
Speaker 3: I think Brad Haddon might have got a couple of fifties.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it came down New South Wals were going
Speaker 4: really well and then we took five wickets for not
Speaker 4: many I think, to bring them down to thinking that
Speaker 4: we were a chance of winning with the ninth wicket
Speaker 4: needing another twenty odd to win. But unfortunately we just
Speaker 4: couldn't manage to get that last wicket, and you know,
Speaker 4: luck didn't quite go away. We dropped a chance or
Speaker 4: two difficult ones, but you know, in finals that's the
Speaker 4: difference between winning and losing sometimes and we didn't quite
Speaker 4: take our opportunities at the back end. But having said that,
Speaker 4: there's always things, plenty of things during a game that
Speaker 4: you know, lead towards a victory, not just the things
Speaker 4: that happened right at the end that everyone remembers about.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it was a very exciting very exciting match.
Speaker 4: We just unfortunately came across or came off on the
Speaker 4: wrong side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a real low scoring match. Only Brad
Speaker 1: Hadden and yourself got over fifty. In fact, the only
Speaker 1: score over seventy for the whole match was your one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixteen. When you look back now in terms
Speaker 1: of the degree of difficulty, this innings must have been
Speaker 1: right up there for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It was a challenging and for me leading into that game,
Speaker 4: I hadn't been scoring many runs at all. I was
Speaker 4: coming off the back of a broken finger earlier in
Speaker 4: the season, so I hadn't really managed to score any
Speaker 4: runs since coming back. So it was especially pleasing to
Speaker 4: manage to get some runs in the final on a
Speaker 4: challenging wicket. So it sort of get us back in
Speaker 4: the you know, with a chance to win with a
Speaker 4: decent score and a better score in our second innings.
Speaker 4: But yes, unfortunately didn't didn't quite get there. But it
Speaker 4: was probably one of the more challenging innings is to
Speaker 4: play on a difficult wicket against a good bowling line up,
Speaker 4: So from that end, you know, it was more of
Speaker 4: a grind to get through. There weren't too many flashy
Speaker 4: shots played. There was plenty of edges and squirts to
Speaker 4: places where I didn't mean to hit them.
Speaker 3: But essentially you've got a bat time and that's what
Speaker 3: I managed to.
Speaker 4: Do and got the runs in the end. So unfortunate
Speaker 4: this year the result didn't quite go away.
Speaker 1: Well, you still managed nineteen boundaries in there, and I
Speaker 1: can only look at the scorecard, so I'm going to
Speaker 1: imagine that they're all beautiful cover drives and on drives
Speaker 1: and flicks the square leg.
Speaker 3: Oh well not quite.
Speaker 4: There's probably a couple out of the middle, but they
Speaker 4: would probably would have read a few down a third
Speaker 4: manage well.
Speaker 1: And then the following year Queensland are hosting Victoria in
Speaker 1: the final. The visbat first make three hundred and forty
Speaker 1: four and then Queensland come out and make six for
Speaker 1: nine hundred declared nine hundred. It doesn't look right just
Speaker 1: looking at that scorecard, but can you talk us through
Speaker 1: those few days at the Gabbert, because that is a
Speaker 1: ludicrous scorecard.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of runs and I think there might
Speaker 4: have been a a year or two in between that
Speaker 4: the game against you South Wales, because the year we
Speaker 4: played Victoria in at the mcg in a final the
Speaker 4: year before. We got the nine in Victoria, but for
Speaker 4: two days he got seven hundred and kept us out
Speaker 4: in the field for a long time. So I think
Speaker 4: there was a bit of we're going to get your
Speaker 4: back kind of mentality going as well. So I think
Speaker 4: that the wicket was it was a very good wicket
Speaker 4: as well, and we were probably did We bowled quite
Speaker 4: well to bowl Victoria out for around that three hundred mark,
Speaker 4: and then we just decided it was going to bat
Speaker 4: for a long time.
Speaker 3: So, uh, the wicked got better.
Speaker 4: You know, it was quite warm still, the Vixek Victorian
Speaker 4: bowls had bowled a lot, so we just decided to
Speaker 4: keep pounding on the runs and then but we still
Speaker 4: wanted to win the game and that was one thing
Speaker 4: that we wanted to do. We could have kept batting
Speaker 4: obviously to get more than nine hundred, but we wanted
Speaker 4: to leave enough time in the game to win it
Speaker 4: rather than just playing out a draw, and that way
Speaker 4: we managed. You. I think Mitchell Johnson got five wickets
Speaker 4: in the second innings and the early part of his career,
Speaker 4: so I think the Vics were pretty tired from the
Speaker 4: fielding for two hundred and something over, so I reckon
Speaker 4: it was. I can't remember how many, but it was
Speaker 4: a lot. I think they'd end up having four new
Speaker 4: balls through the innings, so it was a long time.
Speaker 4: So that was a little bit of payback from the
Speaker 4: year before, but also as yeah, it was you know,
Speaker 4: I don't think there's many scorecards where two batters get
Speaker 4: two hundreds, two double hundreds, and then two other batters
Speaker 4: get you know, I think I was the fourth highest
Speaker 4: century maker.
Speaker 3: I got one hundred and sixty something on it, So.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
Speaker 3: So there was a lot of runs scored, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: And as you say, it's not as if you guys
Speaker 1: are just stonewalling. Two hundred and forty four overs three
Speaker 1: point seventy one is the run rates, not as if
Speaker 1: you guys have just playing dead bat There's plenty of
Speaker 1: runs being scored out there as well.
Speaker 4: It was a pretty good wicket but we had, you know,
Speaker 4: Shane Watson, we had lots of good batters that's scored runs.
Speaker 4: And as the Victorians got tired, you know, they you know,
Speaker 4: they probably went buying as well, and you know, the
Speaker 4: momentum was all in our favor at that stage, so yeah,
Speaker 4: we did score. You know, we've probably got quicker as
Speaker 4: the innings went on, but yeah, we wanted to leave
Speaker 4: enough time in the game as well, so that was
Speaker 4: probably another reason to get well and truly in front
Speaker 4: so we didn't have to bat again.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that was a good result in the end.
Speaker 3: It was always nice.
Speaker 4: It's always nice to win a game rather than getting
Speaker 4: the Shield just because it's a draw, because you're hosting
Speaker 4: the final.
Speaker 1: Totally, and that final margin was an innings and three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty two runs, so convincing victory there at
Speaker 1: the Gabba. Now, Martin, across all those finals that you've
Speaker 1: played in and all those centuries, you scored five centuries
Speaker 1: in fact in Shield finals, which is a record that
Speaker 1: still holds to this day. What's the standout Because when
Speaker 1: we look back since the final came in nineteen eighty two,
Speaker 1: eighty three, well, no one scored more runs than you
Speaker 1: and no one's had more success than you. So what
Speaker 1: stands out?
Speaker 4: I think the favorite it would be the first year win,
Speaker 4: so scoring one hundred, one hundred forty odd in that game,
Speaker 4: just you know, to be part of that, you know,
Speaker 4: and scoring one hundred. You know, Alan Border was playing out,
Speaker 4: so all our legends of Queensland, Alan Border, Carl Rackam
Speaker 4: and Dirk Taesla. You know, we're all playing that had
Speaker 4: tried and failed previously, so it was nice to be
Speaker 4: part of a win for them as well. And then
Speaker 4: you know, just some of the hundreds won't in winning
Speaker 4: games either, so they whilst they are hundreds in finals,
Speaker 4: you always would prefer to score runs in in games
Speaker 4: that you help win. So there's probably you know, a
Speaker 4: couple of them of those that you know, we're in
Speaker 4: losing finals. And my last game for Queensland was a
Speaker 4: Shield final in Melbourne, so that was one hundred in
Speaker 4: a losing final as well, So there's lots of you know,
Speaker 4: it's nice to score the runs, but I guess sometimes
Speaker 4: it's nice to score those runs in winning games as well.
Speaker 1: Now, just before I let you go, I want to
Speaker 1: talk to you about playing against Bangladesh because you played
Speaker 1: two tests against the Tigers in two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: and of course the Tigers they're coming back to Australian
Speaker 1: August this year. They're going to be playing tests in
Speaker 1: Darwin and Mackay. You faced them in Darwin and Cans.
Speaker 1: What are you memories of those two matches.
Speaker 3: Memories of batters scoring a lot of runs and it
Speaker 3: was interesting.
Speaker 4: It was the first time we'd played in Darwin and
Speaker 4: in Cans in Test matches, so you know it was
Speaker 4: a it was a good experience, I guess I was
Speaker 4: very early on in my career. That was my sort
Speaker 4: of fourth and fifth Test matches. I got a duck
Speaker 4: in Darwin, so that was watched Steve Wore and Darren
Speaker 4: Leeman score lots of runs before I went out. So
Speaker 4: I went out there and missed one early on and
Speaker 4: then but then my lot in the game in Cans,
Speaker 4: I was lucky enough to score one hundred, but with
Speaker 4: Steve Warf for quite a while while he've got one
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty, I think, so good to you know finish,
Speaker 4: I guess at that stage, you know it was a
Speaker 4: Test match hundred but ended up being my last last
Speaker 4: opportunity to play for Australia as well.
Speaker 3: So it's an interesting finishing your.
Speaker 4: Last Test match with one hundred not out and then
Speaker 4: finishing your last first class game one hundred not out.
Speaker 3: There's probably not to me that have done.
Speaker 4: That's an interesting lay to finish off careers.
Speaker 1: I imagine you played a lot against Steve throughout your career,
Speaker 1: so it must have been nice to spend some time
Speaker 1: in the middle with him and put on a really
Speaker 1: big partnership in test cricket.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: He is obviously a very fuse competitor and never gave
Speaker 4: his will get away easily or cheaply, so it's always
Speaker 4: good to bat with him and learn learn from him
Speaker 4: at that stage. You know, obvious had a magnificent career
Speaker 4: by that stage, he was certainly coming towards the end
Speaker 4: of it, but you know, just to learn off how
Speaker 4: he went about his cricket and never try and give
Speaker 4: the opposition a chance at all and just bat time essentially,
Speaker 4: So that's that was what he was very good at doing.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was a good experience.
Speaker 4: And photos walking off the ground with sort of him
Speaker 4: in the background was nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fantastic photos, aren't they. Now? Do you remember
Speaker 1: how you brought up your hundred and was there a
Speaker 1: big celebration.
Speaker 4: I think I hit a spinner through the on side
Speaker 4: for four off the top of my head, but I
Speaker 4: can't really remember, but I think and then no, I
Speaker 4: was never one a huge celebrator, so we'd just raised
Speaker 4: the bat and I think we declared at that stage
Speaker 4: as well, so it was just sort of, you know,
Speaker 4: as we as I scored the hundred, was sort of
Speaker 4: walking off when we declared. So no, it wasn't wouldn't
Speaker 4: have been too much of a celebration, I would have thought,
Speaker 4: But I was never you know, it was never huge
Speaker 4: holot or watching me celebrate. But but yeah, I was
Speaker 4: certainly I was celebrating on the inside.
Speaker 1: Very low key operator. Now, last one for me looking
Speaker 1: through your stats, just the one first class wicket. So
Speaker 1: my question is did you celebrate when you got the
Speaker 1: wicked of Damien Martin in nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 4: There probably was a bit more of a celebration then
Speaker 4: because there was no unexpected probably more for for Maato
Speaker 4: than me, And that was you know, that was the
Speaker 4: last game of our season. We won't making finals, so
Speaker 4: we were going to lose that game. So I think,
Speaker 4: you know, Schuey Laura's captain just decided to give a
Speaker 4: few other blokes a ball and I.
Speaker 3: Was one of those.
Speaker 4: So I managed to somehow get the edge of Damian
Speaker 4: Martin's Batton's court caught behind, so.
Speaker 3: I'll take that one.
Speaker 4: So yeah, Test first class bowling average of eleven so
Speaker 4: I'll take that.
Speaker 1: Well, bowling average of eleven final innings both hundred not out.
Speaker 1: We can't beat these stats. Are you going to be
Speaker 1: watching the Shield Final this weekend?
Speaker 3: Look, I'll be across it.
Speaker 4: I can't say I'll be sitting in front of it,
Speaker 4: in front of it watching it, but I'll be interested
Speaker 4: to see sort of the scores and probably watch the
Speaker 4: pilots as we go.
Speaker 3: But yeah, obviously work gets in the way of some
Speaker 3: of those things.
Speaker 4: So but yeah, I'll be certainly interested to see if
Speaker 4: Sala Strands can back it up and go.
Speaker 3: And double it up.
Speaker 4: But there'll be a hard, hard team to beat Victoria
Speaker 4: at home, so we'll be interesting to see how the
Speaker 4: game progresses.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, as will we, Martin. Thanks for your time,
Speaker 1: all the best, mate, my pleasure. So Richie, six for
Speaker 1: nine hundred. It's not quite three for six hundred like
Speaker 1: the Gold Coast Dolphins, but four new balls the Victorians
Speaker 1: took in that innings at the Gama. That is hard
Speaker 1: to believe, isn't that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't see that much these days, do we.
Speaker 2: I think I remember talking to Brad Hodge about it
Speaker 2: once and he said he was falling asleep at mid
Speaker 2: off at some point in that innings. That the duration
Speaker 2: that innings went for and obviously they were enjoying themselves,
Speaker 2: probably a night because they knew that game was gone.
Speaker 2: But like we just spoke about with the Club Cricket Final,
Speaker 2: that's some serious questions going through your head at the
Speaker 2: Gabba as well. You just know how hot and human
Speaker 2: it gets so tough, So bring back that the old
Speaker 2: day's shill games make him timeless. The viewers on the
Speaker 2: live stream would be incredible. But Martin Love is actually
Speaker 2: an interesting one. I've spent a little bit of time
Speaker 2: Atqueens and at the back end of my career and
Speaker 2: he was a physio and I always remember, like team
Speaker 2: meetings if the batters were struggling and he'd just be
Speaker 2: over in the corner kind of just with his arms crossed,
Speaker 2: but he would always stay in his lane. He'd never blurred, really,
Speaker 2: like never gotten the batting coach territory or the coaching territory,
Speaker 2: just sat there and waited for someone to say they
Speaker 2: needed their ankle strapped or their fingers strapped or something.
Speaker 2: Never ever, and no one ever went to him for well,
Speaker 2: I'm sure they did. Again, I'm probably not the guy
Speaker 2: to talked. I'm sure they did, like what a world
Speaker 2: of experience. But he just just sat in the corner
Speaker 2: as if he was just a physio. And so this
Speaker 2: guy the record, like all those stats you just said, played,
Speaker 2: you know, Test cricket, one of the greatest slip fielders
Speaker 2: of Australian cricket as well, those soft hands at first.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I always found that interesting, just just that
Speaker 2: guy in the corner over there, just waiting to strap
Speaker 2: your ankles. Also one of the greatest shield batsmen of
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 1: He must have been a pretty good physio too. I
Speaker 1: imagine if he got high stands with batting and catching.
Speaker 1: I mean this physio stuff must be good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very very good on the ankle strap, very clean,
Speaker 2: very well organized, so good physio.
Speaker 1: And to finish, as he touched on in that chat,
Speaker 1: he finished his Test career with one hundred not out.
Speaker 1: He didn't play another Test after that, finished his first
Speaker 1: class career with one hundred and two not out, didn't
Speaker 1: play after that. Pretty good at finishing good form.
Speaker 2: I think I was there that day as well when
Speaker 2: he made that from memory, it was one of those
Speaker 2: top end.
Speaker 1: Yeah one in Cans he got a hundred.
Speaker 3: I wasn't there then.
Speaker 2: I do remember him playing the Darwen Test, so it
Speaker 2: was actually like him, Maddie Elliott, I remember that that
Speaker 2: Test match. It was all these guys that had plundered
Speaker 2: runs in schild Criff for so long finally got an opportunity.
Speaker 2: But they must have missed out in the dun League,
Speaker 2: cashed in and Cans.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's what good players too. And now the
Speaker 1: your final is this week and of course well such
Speaker 1: on Thursday, and it's going to be Victoria South Australia
Speaker 1: the vix. They've been the dominant team all season, but
Speaker 1: South Australia finished very strongly, obviously the reigning champions. Well
Speaker 1: and if we look at the heads heads so far
Speaker 1: this season, we had Victoria one by four wickets very
Speaker 1: early in the season and then it was a draw
Speaker 1: just in that final round, which yeah, again we chatted
Speaker 1: about last week. Both teams were sort of holding their
Speaker 1: cards pretty close to their chest and across the last
Speaker 1: eight matchups between these two sides, it's Victoria four wins
Speaker 1: South a Stralia too, and the draw has happened twice,
Speaker 1: so fairly even the Vics maybe have a little bit
Speaker 1: of an advantage. And they've got also a bit of
Speaker 1: a selection crunch happening this week the vis don't they.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we spoke about it last week, didn't we.
Speaker 2: We're just trying to put our selector's hats on about
Speaker 2: how we would approach that. So obviously we don't know
Speaker 2: exactly and something could change between recording now and the
Speaker 2: toss of the coin, but by the time you listen
Speaker 2: to this podcast you'll probably already know so. But when
Speaker 2: you've got a team that's been so dominant through the season,
Speaker 2: there's always going to be someone who's going to be
Speaker 2: unlucky to miss. And it sounds as if Mitch he's
Speaker 2: going to be that guy when it comes to the country.
Speaker 2: That bowling attack of Bowlin O'Neill Sutherlan the captain, and
Speaker 2: then the Elliott Murphy Perry discussion. You're always going to
Speaker 2: pick a spinner for a final, so Perry versus Elliott,
Speaker 2: it sounds as if they're going Elliott.
Speaker 3: I think the one thing in his favor.
Speaker 2: It feels like he can bowl at any stage, you know,
Speaker 2: he's got height, bounce, he's got wicked he gets wickets
Speaker 2: for fun, as you said last week, Whereas I feel
Speaker 2: like Mitch is more suited obviously to the new ball
Speaker 2: and he's very skillful. But you've also got Scott Bolan.
Speaker 2: I focused O'Neil to play that role. So unfortunately for him,
Speaker 2: that squeeze of and Scott Boland coming back from the
Speaker 2: Test team means he's the unfortunate one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough, isn't it. I mean, there was a
Speaker 1: few discussions that I saw happening on social media of
Speaker 1: fans saying that they would leave out the spinner just
Speaker 1: because of how prolific those four quicks have been this
Speaker 1: year or sorry, five quicks. But do you think with
Speaker 1: a five day game expectation it could go you need
Speaker 1: that frontline spinner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, especially when it's a final. It's
Speaker 2: a five day game, it's not your normal shield round.
Speaker 2: Where if it was a normal shield round you're chasing
Speaker 2: a result, you could probably argue that you pick five
Speaker 2: quigs and you could still say you probably don't need
Speaker 2: the fifth. But if it's you know, traditionally they've been
Speaker 2: juicy wickets, I feel like the Shield Final is going
Speaker 2: to be just a nice even you know, there's going
Speaker 2: to be moments for each bowler, but there's going to
Speaker 2: be it's going to be hard work as well, so
Speaker 2: you're going to need to throw some variation in there
Speaker 2: at some point. And the guy is in the mug,
Speaker 2: the spinner, he's pretty good, so yeah, I think he
Speaker 2: needs to be in there. And look, even looking at
Speaker 2: the Southstralian batting order, if they're on top, if they're
Speaker 2: batting well, they would want that is what they would want.
Speaker 2: It's just more pace on the ball, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like when you get a flat period through
Speaker 2: a game, you can't just keep going back to the
Speaker 2: same thing. So to throw Top Murphy in there's pretty
Speaker 2: handy totally.
Speaker 1: Now South Stralia, well, if we look at there attack,
Speaker 1: they've not got the chance to select Brendan Doggett this week,
Speaker 1: which is disappointing for him. He hasn't managed to get
Speaker 1: up from his hamstring injury. But they also have questions
Speaker 1: to answer. Do they bring in, you know, like a
Speaker 1: Henry Thornton who's done really well when he's had a
Speaker 1: chance this season, or do they go to someone like
Speaker 1: a Lloyd Pope to compliment Ben Minenti, who's obviously locked
Speaker 1: into that team, go for an extra spinner given how
Speaker 1: flat and how much spin. We saw a bolt at
Speaker 1: the junction over last week between these two sides.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if that's you can read into that,
Speaker 2: because again, like we said, the sting went out of
Speaker 2: the game once the final result was known, and they
Speaker 2: probably were just conserving energy for this week. So it'd
Speaker 2: be interesting if they did go to spin on the
Speaker 2: flip side toward Victoria, obviously forecasting their team to be
Speaker 2: So I would pick. I mean Thornton, he's that bit
Speaker 2: of an X factor, isn't he a bit of a
Speaker 2: wild card? His shield career is still so young, but
Speaker 2: I think everyone's seen him in the big basher. I
Speaker 2: don't know if he broke a record, but he had
Speaker 2: a record for the consecutive streaks of wickets taken or
Speaker 2: it was something pretty crazy.
Speaker 3: So he's a wicked taker. Get you with his stats.
Speaker 2: Well, I do take notice of my fast bowling proteges.
Speaker 1: And then they've also got we could select as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've spoken about this before, but a good
Speaker 2: crop of fast bowls is usually going to lend you
Speaker 2: some success through this, you know, through the mind rounds,
Speaker 2: and on the back of last year their success was
Speaker 2: on the back of their bowling attack, so it's no
Speaker 2: secret again that they've got a good stable crop of
Speaker 2: fast bawlers minus dog At being injured. So yeah, I'd
Speaker 2: pick Thornton just because I feel like he could. He's
Speaker 2: that guy who could crack open three wickets in quick
Speaker 2: time and all of a sudden you're in the game,
Speaker 2: if you're out of it, or or if you're trying
Speaker 2: to get ahead of the game. So again, good problems
Speaker 2: to have. And watch this over the next twenty four
Speaker 2: hours closely, and.
Speaker 1: He looks like he just bowls like extra bit quicker
Speaker 1: than the rest of his teammates as well, so that
Speaker 1: gives him a bit of an edgert.
Speaker 2: Especially with dog It out. I think you need that.
Speaker 2: I mean, Buckingham's a workhorse. McAndrew third and the should
Speaker 2: player of the year rash should say Mitch Perry was second. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: which makes that even more unlucky omission. But you know
Speaker 2: you've got your work horses in Micandre and Buckingham, so
Speaker 2: you won that guy you can just throw the ball
Speaker 2: to and say, you know, for a spell, just let
Speaker 2: loose and try and crack it open. So I think
Speaker 2: you like having those guys in your team.
Speaker 1: From a setn straight point of view, I had to
Speaker 1: look at the eleven from last year. You said that
Speaker 1: their bowling take is very settled. Well, the whole eleven
Speaker 1: is very settled from that winning eleven last year. They've
Speaker 1: only lost dog yet. And then in addition to him,
Speaker 1: Connor mcinernie. He's the only other change, so he won't
Speaker 1: be opening this week and it will be McKenzie Harvey.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the whole other team is the same, including
Speaker 1: Sheffield sid player of the alb Scott who's done it
Speaker 1: with bad and.
Speaker 3: Ball breakout player.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was not a bad cold, my boy. And
Speaker 1: so he's just edged out. Yeah, as you said, Mitch
Speaker 1: Perry and Nathan McAndrew who has taken one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty wickets in the past three seasons, second overall behind
Speaker 1: only Corey Rockacoli. And he's just been so consistent, hasn't
Speaker 1: he He does It seems to me that it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what sort of pitch he gets, he can always
Speaker 1: find a breakthrough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a perfect way to sum him up. I think, like,
Speaker 2: you know what, you're going to get one hundred percent effort, consistent, durable,
Speaker 2: like he doesn't miss many games. He's one of those
Speaker 2: guys who's had a really good upbringing through New South
Speaker 2: Wales and A since second eleven and was waiting for
Speaker 2: his opportunity for a long time. And I mean since
Speaker 2: he's come to say it's the rest is history. He's
Speaker 2: just basically been one of the first picked in their
Speaker 2: Shield team since so he's put together a great career.
Speaker 2: He's almost that guy if you're picking an Australia A
Speaker 2: team now, he'd be like, you know, is he going
Speaker 2: to start pushing in the next few years. He's getting
Speaker 2: to that age now where it's kind of now on
Speaker 2: ever to play for Australia. So but yeah, he doesn't
Speaker 2: get spoken about a lot as well because he is
Speaker 2: super consistent. Those numbers are as good as anyone going
Speaker 2: around Handy with about as well.
Speaker 1: We've also got Del Brusher this week he's going to
Speaker 1: play his third Shield game and potentially in the final.
Speaker 1: So he made an impressive start in those matches that
Speaker 1: he has played so far. But what a way to
Speaker 1: come in. I mean, it's all about timing and cricket,
Speaker 1: isn't it absolutely third Jamie could be playing in a
Speaker 1: winning Shield final?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, how hard is it?
Speaker 2: Some guys play well, not like Martin Love, but some
Speaker 2: guys play a whole grew and never even see a final,
Speaker 2: let alone win one. So pretty good for your third game,
Speaker 2: I think he has he come in with well, Matt
Speaker 2: Shorts obviously out now for ipl but yeah, he's had
Speaker 2: a couple of games now to get a run for it.
Speaker 2: Made some runs. So I remember forecasting back in September,
Speaker 2: but you're looking at their batting order and there were
Speaker 2: so many young guys coming through that I didn't think
Speaker 2: they'd be ready yet to be so dominant in the Shield.
Speaker 2: But god, it looks promising for the future, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: With Peek Harry Dixon's had a little bit He's not
Speaker 2: around the mark now, but he's had a little bit
Speaker 2: of a taste brusher around the mark. And then you've
Speaker 2: got those old war horses having he enhanced MM and
Speaker 2: Harris and those guys are been around a long time.
Speaker 2: So yeah, the future looks good for Victoria Jan Harris.
Speaker 1: He slots back into the middle order now abatting at
Speaker 1: number five. He not quite on Martin Love's level, but
Speaker 1: he's got three tons in Shield finals, including I think
Speaker 1: a couple for Western Australia, so he knows how to
Speaker 1: do it on the big stage as well. And now
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have to face the new ball while
Speaker 1: he can just come into the middle order and churn
Speaker 1: out the runs.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good coaching and pretty good to have someone
Speaker 2: like that coming in the middle order. So they look
Speaker 2: pretty hard to be, don't they. I obviously have my
Speaker 2: sound strained hat on, but it looks like Victoria have
Speaker 2: put together such a good season and then when you
Speaker 2: look at the team they're putting out for this final,
Speaker 2: it's going to be hard.
Speaker 1: Excellent and Scott Boland he's obviously the crowd favorite. And
Speaker 1: speaking of crowds, there's a bit of pressure on Melbourne
Speaker 1: and Victoria this week to turn up because last year
Speaker 1: we saw Adelaide really come out in big numbers at
Speaker 1: the Karen Roton Novle to see South Australia's victory. Well,
Speaker 1: can Melbourne do the same and really flood the junction
Speaker 1: over the big crowd this week?
Speaker 2: I'm sure they can? Can't They They normally turn up
Speaker 2: they do. And how long's it been since Victoria's been
Speaker 2: in the Homeshield Final. I feel like it's been a
Speaker 2: little bit. We'll get back to on that. Maybe we'll
Speaker 2: edit that at the bottom of the screen. But also
Speaker 2: the venue, like if it was at the MCG, it's
Speaker 2: never going to have that feel. But junction very similar
Speaker 2: to current rolling overall. You've got these outgrounds now these
Speaker 2: second grounds, which are are great for cricket, so pack
Speaker 2: it in. Victorians love their sport. You've got AFL season
Speaker 2: going on, but a lot of teams are on the by,
Speaker 2: so oh yeah, get over to the junction and cheer
Speaker 2: them on. You get to see Scott Bolan in the
Speaker 2: flesh Alex carry just drop my pen.
Speaker 3: But you get there, pack.
Speaker 1: It in and there'll be some lots of Scott Boland
Speaker 1: merchandise and paraphernalia. This week we saw him n val
Speaker 1: life size cardboard cutout of himself. I think there might
Speaker 1: be a feel those floating around potentially feven fans to
Speaker 1: take home, so definitely worth getting down and yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: get signed as well. So Scottie Boland, he's playing one
Speaker 1: hundredth Shield match as well, so congratulations to hear he's
Speaker 1: been just dominating for so long, fifteen years. I think
Speaker 1: he's played for Victoria now.
Speaker 2: So gets to run through the banner in the Shill final,
Speaker 2: that'd be amazing.
Speaker 3: What would say?
Speaker 2: Nothing?
Speaker 1: Literally nothing?
Speaker 2: If he got to right it himself and say nothing?
Speaker 2: You know what can I say on the adelaide? Remember
Speaker 2: that all the retro kid they're pulling out some of
Speaker 2: the fans. Can Victoria try and emulate that, Like, get
Speaker 2: some old bush Rangers kid out there? I reckon that
Speaker 2: should be a big part of it. We had like
Speaker 2: who it was like Joe skidaary shirts, Sean Tate shirts
Speaker 2: like who's the most obscure Victorian bush Ranger that were
Speaker 2: definitely Jersey that can spot in the crowd. Throw it
Speaker 2: out there to the Melbourne John or John Moss something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. I've seen on social media because
Speaker 1: I follow their stuff, the Marmalade Boys and anything is
Speaker 1: Content crew they're going to be heading. I'll be there
Speaker 1: to Melbourne to make sure they can help their team
Speaker 1: of the line and maybe see South straight to a
Speaker 1: back to back championships.
Speaker 2: Well, they'll be wearing their most obscure Maybe.
Speaker 1: They've got some new stuff for this year. Maybe Mark
Speaker 1: Cosgrove I think was one of theirs as well.
Speaker 3: That's nice, that's good.
Speaker 1: Why don't we take a quick break, We'll hear from
Speaker 1: our sponsors and then we'll come back with some Aussie
Speaker 1: women in West Indies, some ipl and a look back
Speaker 1: at the WNCL final. All right, it's been a great
Speaker 1: start for Australia in the West Indies. They're very shortened
Speaker 1: up two of the Caribbean. They've already won that T
Speaker 1: twenty series three nil. All those matches at Saint Vincent
Speaker 1: went Australia's way, including on Tuesday when Georgia vol hit
Speaker 1: one hundred and one of only fifty two balls. That's
Speaker 1: her maiden T twenty international one hundred and the third
Speaker 1: fastest by a nausey woman. Great start to her for
Speaker 1: her international career. I've just read you some numbers here, Rich.
Speaker 1: She's averaging fifty seven point six from her first ten
Speaker 1: earlier eyes and averaging forty from her first twelve T
Speaker 1: twenties at a strike cerate of one hundred and fifty six.
Speaker 1: So when we're looking for that Alissa Heally replacement, well
Speaker 1: we don't have to look very far. Have you taken
Speaker 1: long right, It's great to see the queens Anders. She's
Speaker 1: just coming and dominated straight away.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, three nil to start that tour. So we
Speaker 2: get to the w NCL fine or at some point,
Speaker 2: but obviously Queensland without her not needed. She's gone to
Speaker 2: the international stage and lighting it up. So yeah, impressive
Speaker 2: stats there, and I'm sure they're looking forward to the
Speaker 2: the ODII leg now and wrapping up that series that
Speaker 2: they build towards the World Cup.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean there was a bit of pressure
Speaker 1: on this T twenty side as well. They lost that
Speaker 1: series to India just last month and they've got a
Speaker 1: new captain and Sophie mullin you and that T twenty
Speaker 1: World Cup is coming up in June, so quite a
Speaker 1: few moving parts they'll be wrapped to get this three
Speaker 1: nail victory here and just maybe work out a few
Speaker 1: little things that they weren't too sure about. Now it's
Speaker 1: looking pretty good. They've got some Odie eyes and some kids.
Speaker 1: They've got Turlie Wilson over to join them for her
Speaker 1: first opportunity. Hopefully we see her get her first ODI
Speaker 1: cap and she was on the Scoop podcast last week,
Speaker 1: wasn't she so if you want to hear from her
Speaker 1: the latest AUSTRAI member, head over to the Scoop podcast.
Speaker 1: Have a listened to that? I mean I would ask
Speaker 1: you what they should look forward to some kits. But
Speaker 1: you said you haven't been last week?
Speaker 2: Can I ask you, no, I haven't been unless you've
Speaker 2: been in that region.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but we'll maybe we'll get some of the
Speaker 1: girls to report back on what some kits was like,
Speaker 1: because it sounds sounds very beautiful. I mean, we saw
Speaker 1: on social media this pitch at Saint Vincent. They've got
Speaker 1: the pool pitch side. I mean, I know we have
Speaker 1: that at the Whacken now, but to have the pool there,
Speaker 1: that's a pretty nice edition. GABA had that, GABA had
Speaker 1: that pool deck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is nice.
Speaker 1: It's not a permanent fixture though, that one.
Speaker 3: It's not.
Speaker 2: Do you reckon?
Speaker 3: That's nice?
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't do.
Speaker 2: The players get to use it during the game, Do
Speaker 2: you reckon? They shoot a bit of recovery after the
Speaker 2: bowling in SPA I Spa, Yeah, I'm not sure. Sitting
Speaker 2: around drinking alcohol and in a pool with all afternoon
Speaker 2: in the suns my idea of fun.
Speaker 1: There's certainly some drawbacks. Situation, isn't there exactly? Okay, we
Speaker 1: should probably move up the IPL that's going to start
Speaker 1: up very shortly, in fact, I think it starts this week,
Speaker 1: rich O. There's quite a few Assies involved, maybe not
Speaker 1: as many as we've seen in the past seasons, but
Speaker 1: still plenty of Ozzie coaches over there involved as well.
Speaker 1: So let's I'm just going to read you through who
Speaker 1: we've got, and there have been a few injuries as
Speaker 1: well that we should probably talk about. So Chennai they've
Speaker 1: got Matt Short. They had Nathan Allis but he's had
Speaker 1: to withdraw that hamstring injury just hasn't managed to recover
Speaker 1: in time. Delhi Capitals they've got Mitch Stark. He'll be
Speaker 1: keen to prove his worth there once again. He's had
Speaker 1: a good little renaissance in this competition. KKR they've got
Speaker 1: cam Green who is fresh off of Shield Century, so
Speaker 1: that means he's in good form. Luck Now they've got
Speaker 1: Mitch marsh who had that amazing season last year under
Speaker 1: coach Justin Langer. Punjab, but they've gone heavy with the
Speaker 1: Aussies as they did last season. Ponting's in charge there
Speaker 1: and they've got Cooper Connelly, Mitchell and Marcus Donas, Xavier
Speaker 1: Bartlett and Ben Dorsches, so some real fresh faces there
Speaker 1: in this competition. RCB they've got Tim David and Josh Hazelwood.
Speaker 1: We know that those two always dominate in the IPL,
Speaker 1: and then Sunrises they've got Travis Head and then Pat
Speaker 1: Cummins who was going to miss the start of the
Speaker 1: tournament and Jack Edwards who has already had to withdraw.
Speaker 1: So unfortunately for Jackie's going to miss it that first IPL,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure he'll be back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unfortunate for him, Like he obviously deserved that
Speaker 2: that price he got in the auction and just the
Speaker 2: opportunity to play. I forel like it would have been
Speaker 2: great for his development as he's improved so much in
Speaker 2: the over this summer.
Speaker 1: So breakout break our player.
Speaker 2: His work over the Big Bash was. I was surprised
Speaker 2: how good he'd become so quickly, how much of a
Speaker 2: bank especially with the ball, right. I think that happened
Speaker 2: quickly than most expected. So disappointing. He can't continue that
Speaker 2: on on an international kind of stage. So but yeah,
Speaker 2: the injuries Nathan Ellis's hamstring sounds like a bad one.
Speaker 2: It sounds like three months they're saying. So that's a
Speaker 2: serious string, which the flow on effect for Australia won't
Speaker 2: be that they don't have any kind of white book
Speaker 2: content for a while, do they know? Midyear in mangledd esh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure that's his target, but it's a bit
Speaker 2: concerning for him now. A couple of Hammi's in a row,
Speaker 2: and then I mean the other guys, the Big three
Speaker 2: are still working their way back. Mitch's had some time off,
Speaker 2: so I'm sure he's getting back into the swing of things.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you want to see those guys. I mean,
Speaker 2: we would love to see him doing it. The World Cup,
Speaker 2: not just start because he's retired, but it's almost like
Speaker 2: you want to see him back playing now, don't we,
Speaker 2: and kind of getting back into the swing of things.
Speaker 2: But also you have the PSL it's about to start too,
Speaker 2: so quite a large number of Aussies in that, so
Speaker 2: they kind of playing at the same time, so there's
Speaker 2: a bit of franchise cricket going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they run side by side those comps, don't they.
Speaker 1: Pat Cummers, he's only played one game in nine months
Speaker 1: or something that was a pretty good one Adelaide Test.
Speaker 1: But we want him playing more, don't. Unfortunately, he's just
Speaker 1: so good, so hopefully he can get everything right. He's
Speaker 1: not rushed back here to play for sunrises. But I
Speaker 1: think the good thing at least is Daniel Vettori is
Speaker 1: coach of that side and he's obviously the right head
Speaker 1: man to Andrew McDonald's in the Aussie team, so they
Speaker 1: won't be taking any chances with Pat, especially with that
Speaker 1: massive test schedule coming up. But yeah, we just want
Speaker 1: to see him back playing.
Speaker 3: I think just cricket.
Speaker 2: People want to see those guys playing, don't they, even
Speaker 2: I mean Josh Hazel, with the amount of cricket he's missed.
Speaker 2: When's the last time we've seen him ballaball live? It
Speaker 2: feels like it's been quite a while. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: those two twenties, wasn't it. So yeah, even you don't
Speaker 2: know how long those guys have left, so you do
Speaker 2: want to watch him play and get them back playing.
Speaker 2: So but also you touched on the test schedule coming up.
Speaker 2: I had ran my eye over that quickly. It's pretty
Speaker 2: brutal stretch coming up, isn't it. Maybe we don't want
Speaker 2: to see him bullying at that officially, let's just get
Speaker 2: him cherry up because there's some serious next summer. It's
Speaker 2: busy and yeah, the Test team are going to be here,
Speaker 2: there and everywhere, so interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah they will. So they've got the Yeah, a couple
Speaker 1: of tests against Bangladesh and the tour to South Africa,
Speaker 1: then four tests against New Zealand, a five tests tour
Speaker 1: of India which happens basically straight after that New Year's Test,
Speaker 1: and then the one hundred and fiftieth Test anniversary.
Speaker 3: So it's a tough stretch.
Speaker 1: It's a very long and, as you say, brutal stretch.
Speaker 1: I feel like with Josh Hazew, I know we haven't
Speaker 1: seen him bowl for a while, but because he's also
Speaker 1: not present on social media, I just feel like, is
Speaker 1: he okay? Like do we need to check in on Josh?
Speaker 1: Like at least with Pat he's on Instagram, we see
Speaker 1: him pop up. With Josh, you just never see has.
Speaker 3: Anyone heard from him?
Speaker 4: Where is he?
Speaker 2: He could be out in tap back in Tamworth, he
Speaker 2: could be.
Speaker 1: He could be so hopefully points check in back in Bengaluru. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if Josh, if you're listening, let us.
Speaker 2: Know send it email podcast at cricket dot com DoD
Speaker 2: au let us know you're okay, very.
Speaker 1: Good wncl final Richo. As you said, the Queens and
Speaker 1: Fire they upset New South Wales breakers. They had a
Speaker 1: little bit of help with the Duckworth Lewis Duckworth Lewis
Speaker 1: Stern system, but they got the job done off the
Speaker 1: back of big centuries to Grace Harris, Georgia Edmond and
Speaker 1: then a very important knock from Lauren Winfield Hill at
Speaker 1: the end of her innings. The target was three hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty three, but then when the rain came, New
Speaker 1: South Wales needed two hundred and four from twenty seven
Speaker 1: overs at a run rate of seven and a half
Speaker 1: with nine wickets in hand, and then after a two
Speaker 1: hour delay it got reduced to ninety one from nine
Speaker 1: overs at a required rate of ten point one, and
Speaker 1: so New South Wales were looking like they were going
Speaker 1: to get that. Ben Jess Jonason came on, got a
Speaker 1: couple of very important wickets and it just was too much.
Speaker 1: In the end, she.
Speaker 2: Clutched up, didn't she just that Duckworth Lewis doesn't see
Speaker 2: it right.
Speaker 3: Did you?
Speaker 1: Think that favored New South Wales or Queensland.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, when you're off for rain for
Speaker 2: two hours, who was ahead at that stage in New
Speaker 2: South Wales.
Speaker 1: They were just ahead of the pastoral, so you.
Speaker 2: Feel like it's going to keep raining here, we're going
Speaker 2: to win, and then all of a sudden you're back
Speaker 2: on and it's blown out to ninety off nine, which,
Speaker 2: to be fair, is achievable. But it just seems like
Speaker 2: that's such a huge it do, doesn't it? And usually
Speaker 2: like Duckworth Lewis is favored to the team chasing, so
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just didn't sound right that that
Speaker 2: whole even even the original target coming down to what
Speaker 2: was it, two hundred and thirty off twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Well that was what they needed when the range yea
Speaker 1: even that was like, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, it sounds like a drastic change. We could
Speaker 2: talk for hours about Duckworth Lewis.
Speaker 1: And well maybe we'll have to get Duckworth or Lewis
Speaker 1: or get him on next week.
Speaker 2: You could get all three of them in the room.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll get him in person, we'll quiz him. But
Speaker 2: to defend under the in the at rain, it's a
Speaker 2: massive massive win for Queensland. Last week you tipped new
Speaker 2: so I was just off the base of the season
Speaker 2: they've had, the summer they've had, they've been dominant. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I need to stop tipping over queens You've got to
Speaker 2: back your Queenslanders in now. But I think the big game,
Speaker 2: big name players stood up, didn't they. Grace Harris with
Speaker 2: the ton, Georgia Redmain and then yeah, like we said,
Speaker 2: Jess Johnathon, I mean, no one better to have under
Speaker 2: pressure with the ball there at the end. So massive upset,
Speaker 2: but probably not a super big surprise when you do
Speaker 2: see how good their team still isn't Like we just said,
Speaker 2: Georgia Volt wasn't even playing was she?
Speaker 3: So what on Queens then?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I think for Grace Harris, when you watch
Speaker 1: her play, she's just too good for this competition, isn't she.
Speaker 1: She's sort of the Cameron Green. Maybe her results at
Speaker 1: international level haven't been where she wants, but when she
Speaker 1: comes back and plays for Queensland, she's just too good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: eighty five balls Tree for her Player of the match
Speaker 1: as well, and yes, she's just makes this team a
Speaker 1: whole lot better.
Speaker 3: Should she be on tour well.
Speaker 1: At Georgia Edmond when she was accepting the Ruth Pretty
Speaker 1: Cup at the end she said, thanks Grace for not
Speaker 1: going to look the West into They look pretty happy
Speaker 1: with that nther selection and I think she has to
Speaker 1: be in the T twenty World Cup calculations.
Speaker 2: I mean, just a player of that that can again
Speaker 2: we spoke about it before, but a player in your
Speaker 2: team that can take a game away and win it
Speaker 2: for you like that that they're pretty rare in male
Speaker 2: and female cricket. So to have someone like that, I
Speaker 2: think you just need to pick them and play them,
Speaker 2: don't you. You do, and you're ride the good with
Speaker 2: the bad. We've seen it over so many times in
Speaker 2: the in the men's side, some like Lynn Maxwell. You're
Speaker 2: not always going to be consistent, but when it's good,
Speaker 2: you just you just ride the wave, don't you just
Speaker 2: take that? You know, scintillating form and you just never
Speaker 2: know what we're going to get. But it's that's great,
Speaker 2: Like that's the whole point of especially T twenty cricket. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's making a pretty good case to get back in there.
Speaker 1: And not that there's any bad fielders in the Aussie side,
Speaker 1: but Grace is an excellent fielder and she's always in
Speaker 1: the hot spots. So you want as many of those
Speaker 1: type of fielders as you can get.
Speaker 2: Well, and I'm sure there was selectors leaving her out.
Speaker 2: This is what they would have wanted to see. So
Speaker 2: she's done the right thing. So I'm not sure what
Speaker 2: she'll have on next Maybe I'm not sure if you're
Speaker 2: not playing on this is international tour? Is it off
Speaker 2: season now?
Speaker 1: A bit of time off?
Speaker 2: Facts, Well, she's in good form.
Speaker 3: Pick her.
Speaker 1: And for Georgia Redmain. That was her fourth century of
Speaker 1: the season, the first time anyone's ever achieved that in
Speaker 1: the WNCL and I watched a bit of that start
Speaker 1: of the innings. Her right arm was pretty heavily strapped
Speaker 1: and there are a few times where she'd you know,
Speaker 1: defend the ball and sort of rip her arm off
Speaker 1: the bat, so she was under a bit of jurass
Speaker 1: and to still pull out a century like that, it's
Speaker 1: really badding.
Speaker 2: Well there're going now she's got the off season. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but what a season. I mean, no one, she's got
Speaker 2: sore arms. She's made that many runs her and Marn,
Speaker 2: I mean Marn has kind of emulated that in the
Speaker 2: menta didn't you with that many centuries? So yeah, she
Speaker 2: deserves a well own break.
Speaker 1: And yeah that's the Queens and Fire's second ever title.
Speaker 1: They've come second I think maybe ten or eleven times.
Speaker 3: So they lost the last two, haven't they they had?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Bridesmaids no more more. They finally get well
Speaker 1: deserved the Ruth Pretty Cup. But let's finish with the
Speaker 1: Big Four this week, Richo, in honor of Scott Bowler's
Speaker 1: cardboard Cutter statue, We're going to look at four players
Speaker 1: who should be honored with a statue. And now we
Speaker 1: can go back as far as we want, we to
Speaker 1: get as niche as we want. Who can go for
Speaker 1: Hugo Burden if you want, well he probably he's getting
Speaker 1: closeco Circles Bill, who comes to mind when you think?
Speaker 2: Just so we know, just so let's get out of there.
Speaker 2: This wasn't on the run sheet. This has been a
Speaker 2: late edition because we've gone this second half of the season.
Speaker 2: We've had Big Four every week, and I feel like
Speaker 2: the listeners love it.
Speaker 3: They look forward to it.
Speaker 2: They probably skip ahead, you know, in the little bookmarks
Speaker 2: they skip aed.
Speaker 3: To the Big Four.
Speaker 1: So people do do that.
Speaker 2: I do feel like it should be in there. So
Speaker 2: you've put me under the pump here. But I'm going
Speaker 2: to throw Travis Head into adelaide oval.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: Darren Leman's got a statue, Jason Gillaspie does. I would
Speaker 2: argue that Travis Head, this is going to be controversial,
Speaker 2: is the best South Trainian cricketer. Ef Well, let's look
Speaker 2: at let's look at it all.
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking homegrown.
Speaker 2: Because homegrown you're saying the down he did play that,
Speaker 2: but he's got he's got statues everywhere we he's got
Speaker 2: a stand. I'm pretty sure it has that whole Western stand.
Speaker 2: So he's okay, Travis Heads the best in my opinion
Speaker 2: that I didn't play against Darren Lemon or Jason Gillespie
Speaker 2: and they are amazing cricketers and that's why they've been
Speaker 2: on it now own way, Greg Blue was great, There's
Speaker 2: been a numerous big names, but Travis Head is the
Speaker 2: best South train cricketer ever.
Speaker 1: So I love it. I love a big call. That's fantastic. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Travis Head agree, he's right up there is the
Speaker 1: best in terms of what he's achieved on the international stage.
Speaker 1: And also yeah, yeah, no one else has done with
Speaker 1: no one else, especially the big games.
Speaker 2: So you can say that he didn't make he hasn't
Speaker 2: made as many shield runs as you know, Darren Lehman.
Speaker 2: But he's also he's done. Yeah, because he's been playing
Speaker 2: for Australia and winning World Cups and World Test Championships
Speaker 2: and ashes.
Speaker 3: His legacy is unmatched.
Speaker 1: All right, I agree? And where are you going to
Speaker 1: put it at later?
Speaker 2: Well, he can pick wherever he wants to put it.
Speaker 2: So he is from he's from the northern suburbs, so
Speaker 2: I would like it to be somewhere in the northern
Speaker 2: area of the ground. But that's where those heritage listed,
Speaker 2: the figs are the scoreboard, maybe under the bar at.
Speaker 3: The school board scoreboard.
Speaker 1: Seems like there is a people be among the people
Speaker 1: on the hill.
Speaker 2: But then later stages ahead he has been you know,
Speaker 2: he's a bit more upper class, so maybe he'll want
Speaker 2: to be in the members or somewhere around there.
Speaker 1: What do you mean he's more upper class?
Speaker 2: Well, he's definitely changed a little bit. He's not exactly
Speaker 2: from Gauler anymore. So no, let him pick.
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, that's a good that's a good start.
Speaker 1: Do we do two each okay, ye, over to you,
Speaker 1: over to me, Well, this one has come up a
Speaker 1: bit over recent years and I feel like we do
Speaker 1: need a bit more female representation in our statues around
Speaker 1: the country. Belinda Clark, we've got her at the SCG,
Speaker 1: not too many others to speak of, though, So I
Speaker 1: want to see Meg Lanning at the MCG or somewhere
Speaker 1: in that vicinity because her numbers in international cricket, all
Speaker 1: those World Cup sues won, Test numbers are good too,
Speaker 1: and what she's done for growing the women's game, I
Speaker 1: think she's got to be around there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair, And now.
Speaker 1: That she's done, I mean I would say Elise Perry
Speaker 1: is definitely deserving of one as well. Given everything's Is
Speaker 1: that your two?
Speaker 2: I think that's fair.
Speaker 1: That's fair. Absolutely, Okay, that saves coming back to me.
Speaker 3: But then it's like, does Early deserve one too? Which ground?
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: The North Sydney is synonymous in Sydney for well, in
Speaker 2: New South Walest for women's cricket, isn't it like the
Speaker 2: plays their content there? I was trying to think then
Speaker 2: about North Sydney. I was like, oh, Ben dunk North Sydney,
Speaker 2: you know, high score yeah, and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: Darcy Short at Hurstville fifty seven. Now I'm probably not
Speaker 2: giving this respect that deserves, but I'm just on the spot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I'll give you those two. I think least Perry
Speaker 2: and Meg learning to deserve statues. Und again, the two
Speaker 2: of the greatest we've produced, they deserve their their statues.
Speaker 1: Scott Bland one isn't he? But where but whim c
Speaker 1: g Again when you look at the other contemporaries he's
Speaker 1: played with the Big Three? Yeah, he hasn't done more
Speaker 1: than those, But I think.
Speaker 2: It's more unique, isn't it. Yeah, because of his background
Speaker 2: and I think you know, he's blossomed late. Everyone loves
Speaker 2: him because of his demeanor, Like there's just so much
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: I mean, the other guy's pretty compelling. Just do a
Speaker 2: Big four statue, sorry, Big three statue.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 2: They probably deserve. I mean then Nathan Lion's like, what
Speaker 2: about me?
Speaker 1: But with Nathan what he's at the Adelaide oval or
Speaker 1: c isn't.
Speaker 2: He unless he's at the nets Adelaide over the ground
Speaker 2: the groundscapers shed. Look, as you can tell, this wasn't
Speaker 2: on the run sheet. Right, So we're literally usually we
Speaker 2: meet about this, you know, hours before that. You know,
Speaker 2: we get up pretty early podcast day, don't we.
Speaker 1: We want to run more over all the stats and
Speaker 1: get everything right.
Speaker 2: But you can tell we're making this up.
Speaker 1: So you know that the listeners will have some good suggestions.
Speaker 2: Though maybe we leave the fourth to the that's good,
Speaker 2: send it in you decide that Travis head, Meg Learning,
Speaker 2: Alice Perry fourth, let us know.
Speaker 1: And you can go back as far as your one
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a current day player. Maybe someone
Speaker 1: like I don't know, Bill Lurry deserves one. Yep, yeah,
Speaker 1: let us know. Podcasts at cricket dot com today, are
Speaker 1: you who?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: I said Lehmann. Gillaspie having an Adelaide. Ponting has a
Speaker 2: stand at Belle Reeve. Is there many other well known stands? Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: like we're talking about Allen boarder Field. Justin Langer has
Speaker 2: a stand at Pert Matt Hayden's stand at Allan border Field,
Speaker 2: along with the Stuart Law stands very good. So you're
Speaker 2: getting so it doesn't have to be a statue. It
Speaker 2: could be a stand or a ground.
Speaker 1: Well, there's going to be a new brand. You said
Speaker 1: in Brisbane. Isn't there for the twenties thirty two Olympics.
Speaker 1: Do we need a name for that and a couple
Speaker 1: of stand names for that? Definitely?
Speaker 2: Can the junction Oval will be renamed? Then you know
Speaker 2: you've got like Karen Rolton, why can't that be you know,
Speaker 2: Meg Glanning Oval, or you've got Karen Rolton Oval in Adelaide.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really good.
Speaker 2: Give her the Oval, give her yeah, and the Scott
Speaker 2: Boland stand up Meg Lanning Oval. I think that would be.
Speaker 2: Now we're cooking, Now we're cooking, should we keep keep
Speaker 2: the cameras rolling?
Speaker 1: Let us know? Let us know. And next week, Richard's
Speaker 1: going to be the final episode of the season. We're
Speaker 1: going to recap that to your final We're going to
Speaker 1: look back on some season predictions that we throughout in September,
Speaker 1: or keeping receipts, keeping receipts as we love to do,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure there'll be a few other things chat
Speaker 1: about as well.
Speaker 3: Perfect is it?
Speaker 2: You know last day school? Do we get to wear?
Speaker 1: Yeah, casual clothes whatever, you're perfect?
Speaker 2: Yeah, mad Monday, I'll start planning it