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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lola Berry, author, nutritionist,

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Speaker 1: and yoga teacher join me as we get to know

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Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately

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Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry.

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Speaker 1: I have been so looking forward to this episode coming out.

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Speaker 1: We recorded this with Rachel Finch in Sydney in January

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Speaker 1: and obviously right now where admits serious lockdown and social isolation.

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Speaker 1: I really hope everybody is hanging in there, staying safe

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Speaker 1: and that your loved ones doing well as well. I

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Speaker 1: know it can be a really confronting time for me personally.

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Speaker 1: I don't do well with not having control with certain

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Speaker 1: elements in my life, so I've probably found the battle

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Speaker 1: more of a mental struggle than anything else. So I

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Speaker 1: guess my message is, please don't feel like there's anything

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Speaker 1: wrong with asking for help. There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: options out there if you don't want to see a

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Speaker 1: therapist or don't want to leave the house to see

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Speaker 1: a therapist or psychologist. You know, the government's doing a

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Speaker 1: tallyhealth program, so there are ways of getting support if

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Speaker 1: and when you feel like you need it. I just

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Speaker 1: want you to know you're not alone. I have been

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Speaker 1: finding it really confronting personally myself, but in a positive

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Speaker 1: and exciting news. Today's episode is the incredible powerhouse of

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Speaker 1: Miss Rachel Finch, or as I like to call her, Finchy.

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Speaker 1: I love her quirk. I don't know about you, but

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Speaker 1: if you watch any of her Instagram lives, she's like

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Speaker 1: Koko and then we'll start talking and she's just so

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Speaker 1: quirky and cute and very honest and vulnerable. We both

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Speaker 1: have a big love for yoags, but also like, this

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Speaker 1: girl is a little go getter. She has got her

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Speaker 1: own apparel range, she's got her own Kissed Earth collagen

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Speaker 1: and supplement range. I personally take the collagen and it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: On top of that, she's got kind sense, these beautiful

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Speaker 1: by Finch stuff. This girl doesn't stop and she's positive.

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Speaker 1: She's a mamma of two.

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Speaker 2: She's a wife.

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Speaker 1: She is literally when she came into the podcast space

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Speaker 1: you really enjoy this chat with the beautiful Rachel Pinch,

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Speaker 1: because she really is a positive force of nature, and

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Speaker 1: I hope that that brings a little bit of positivity

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Speaker 1: and happiness to your Monday, big Love. I had to

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Speaker 1: press record because Rachel arrived, the incredible Rachel Pinch, and

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Speaker 1: we just started talking and I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I should be recorded.

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Speaker 2: Let's get it down.

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Speaker 1: So the first thing I want to say one thing

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Speaker 1: that I really really love about you, and you're probably

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Speaker 1: going to best into laughter. When I watched your inter

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Speaker 1: stories and you go.

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Speaker 2: Cuckoo, you know what, I think to myself, where the

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Speaker 2: hell did that come from? I think it's from my

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Speaker 2: And she and I worked at the Peongchang Winter Olympics

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Speaker 2: every time, every time she'd get up, she'd come into

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Speaker 2: my room and go cuckoo, good morning. And then ever

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Speaker 2: and I get some people that say, can you stop

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Speaker 2: saying cuckoo? And then I get some people saying, can

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Speaker 2: you tell us the significance of cuckoo?

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Speaker 1: Well, now they know I love it. I thought it

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Speaker 2: Well, well I do say it to them, and now

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Speaker 2: they think it's something that's in the English dictionary. So cute.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of So this is the thing. I've been

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Speaker 1: a fan of yours, I want to say forever, but

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Speaker 1: like we've known each other just along the traps for yoonks,

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Speaker 1: now right, Yeah, I remember we had like a little

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Speaker 1: And then like when we do events and workings, I'll

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Speaker 1: Today my dad is like, did you get to see

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Speaker 1: Rachel fur Friday. He's that guy that reads the paper

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Speaker 1: the press, Helaros. He'll be like have you heard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tell him not to believe it and RePOP everything. Sorry, dad, now.

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Speaker 1: That you've said that, he totally will. But when I say,

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Speaker 1: oh no, but it was written in the paper today.

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Speaker 2: it's gorgeous. But yeah, you can't believe everything you read.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I love that you've just come from.

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Speaker 1: So you're a lot of fun to google because you've

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Speaker 1: got so much stuff on the go. And you know,

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Speaker 1: initially kind of like you think Rachel Finch and you

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Speaker 1: think TV presents a model, like that's your initial kind

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Speaker 1: Rachel Finch age, age, Rachel Finch, diet, diet, Rachel Finch height.

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Speaker 2: Oh that would be lettuce, that would be.

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Speaker 1: Rachel Finch book, Rachel Finch, Collagen, Rachel Finch Instagram, Rachel

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Speaker 1: Finch perfume hilarious. So the cool thing about that is

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Speaker 1: they have tapped on to like, we've got kind sense.

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Speaker 1: It was so it's the perfect size for being in

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Speaker 1: your bag. Yeah, you're in a blue purse.

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Speaker 1: I bet you. We've got body by Finch, so that's

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Speaker 1: We've got active wear apparel BOD correct, I mean holy smoke,

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Speaker 2: Everything with your name associated is lols for me, not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like each one becomes its own little baby

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Speaker 2: But I saw Frozen too yesterday for the second time.

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Speaker 1: And that's a perfect example of the whole concept of

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Speaker 1: this podcast is fearlessly failing. And some people will get

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Speaker 1: And also I think my history is eating disorders as well.

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Speaker 1: There's a massive component of self worth linked to it.

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Speaker 2: And that's a gift and that's great, but you're compensating

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Speaker 1: You know, I can confirm you're an awesome per But honestly,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. But also having that kind of teammate, yes,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And it's not like alcohol is bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So you're saying that not having a list is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think when you're strict on yourself in

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Speaker 2: I pulled over and I said, hey, Dave, and I

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Speaker 2: just I was only with him for like three months

435
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: and I'm still with the same manager I have been

436
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 2: for twelve years. And he said, oh, sorry, eleven years now.

437
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 2: And he said, I had a call from Channel seven.

438
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 2: They want you to do Dancing with the Stars. I

439
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, awesome, I take up a challenge never

440
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 2: dance a day in my life. I give it a

441
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 2: go because I've been like, you know, athletics and water skiing,

442
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 2: touch football and very you know, tomboyish.

443
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't.

444
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: I definitely didn't have you know, you know what you'll

445
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 2: consider like good posture or the ability to be graceful. Anyway.

446
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: So I walked into the rehearsal studio for the very

447
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: first time, opened up the door, looked at Misher, and

448
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 2: I'm just like, he's got to be gay.

449
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: You know, amazing because he was.

450
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,239
Speaker 2: Just perfect from top to toe and that feeling of

451
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: like he just really looks after himself and he's, you know,

452
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 2: just pitchure perfect. Here I am with the bouncy ponytail,

453
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 2: afraid her active weather was all afraid anyway. So we

454
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 2: met that day after that rehearsal. We went to the

455
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 2: cafe downstairs until they kicked us out, just chatting. And

456
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: then three weeks later I pretty much had my toothbrush

457
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 2: at his place. Yeah and he yeah, he A week

458
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 2: after we actually had that first meeting, he texted me

459
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: and said, would you like to go out to dinner?

460
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: All my lessons have canceled and never did that happen

461
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: like in his whole teaching career. So it was quite interesting,

462
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 2: like maybe he canceled, I'm not sure. Yeah, but we

463
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: went for dinner, he picked me up. He and he

464
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: has had he's had the same behavior and mannerisms as

465
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: that same night. So he opens the door from me.

466
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 2: It's very like old school, opens the door, carries my

467
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: coat or puts you know, his coat over my shoulders

468
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: all the time, and just really lovely. And I definitely

469
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: was not used to any of that. Yeah, and I

470
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 2: was quite young at twenty one or twenty two. And yeah,

471
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 2: he dropped me off and gave me a kiss on

472
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 2: the cheek and we didn't make love or do anything

473
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 2: for months. And yes, some people say, well, you had

474
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 2: your toothbrush at its place, but it was very very

475
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: civilized and normal and nice. And he said when you

476
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: he always says to Violet, when you care about someone,

477
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: you know, make sure they respect you and they wait

478
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: and take their time. And yes, so that's how we met.

479
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: And then we opened a couple of dance schools and

480
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: then from there we did that. We wanted to take

481
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: it and make it a little bit bigger, so that's

482
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: why we created the online dance program, and that's progressed

483
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: into what we're doing now.

484
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: So here's me. This podcast is like about the lessons,

485
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: but that was like I was like, I've just got

486
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: to ask about them around that Rob High.

487
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: It's beautiful, isn't it. Everyone loves a good meeting story

488
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: and I.

489
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: Love the whole like I'm waiting thing because I'm a

490
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: big believer in that too, because I think you want

491
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: to get like, ultimately your partner wants to be your

492
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: best friend as well, and so you want to say

493
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: you want to be like are we mates? Like you

494
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: want to get this feeling like you've got this team mate.

495
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we definitely are a team and we do everything

496
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven like if you know, you said

497
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: before you know you've got this, this, this, this, this,

498
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 2: and you've got two kids blah blah blah. How And

499
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 2: it's because I have that support of him, Like without him,

500
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: I honestly think I probably wouldn't have been doing half

501
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 2: of what I'm doing. It's he is the true engine

502
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 2: in what we are doing. And he he's honestly like

503
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: I we balance each other well. I work to my

504
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 2: strengths and I and I let him take over the weaknesses,

505
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 2: and he works to his strength and gives a week

506
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 2: his weaknesses. To me, he's his strengths, and where he

507
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 2: excels is in the development in their creation in the

508
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: like an ideas and it makes things happen. And he's

509
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: very good with numbers, and he's very good with just projects,

510
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: et cetera. I'm more taking of the ideas and being

511
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 2: you know, very whimsical and marketing and making things happen.

512
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 2: From that, I do love event management, so I am

513
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: passionate about that. But we balance each other really well.

514
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: So we've both got to bring each other down a

515
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: little bit, but it's good.

516
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: I love that. So I want to take it back

517
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: a little bit because you have built this incredible I

518
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: hope you don't have me saying as Almo as like

519
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: this wellness empire within thing of who you are getting

520
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: there but not not quite. But you're doing so many

521
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: amazing things. But like take it back to like the

522
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: miss Universe days like that would have been.

523
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was right in the midst of

524
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: everything that I spoke about before, with lack of self care,

525
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: lack of self love, ill understanding of what my brain

526
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: and body needs to thrive it its best. So for me,

527
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: it was very much that was that was the start

528
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: of my journey because I was in this point of

529
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: I guess, just the cycle of like you know, over exercising,

530
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: not feeding my body with the right nutrition. I didn't

531
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: know what meditation was like. It just I just wasn't

532
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: aware of it. And it was that low point that

533
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: kind of sparked, I guess an area for me of

534
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to be I don't want to feel

535
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 2: like this anymore. So that's when I started educating myself

536
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: and reading things and thinking maybe I want to study

537
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: health coaching because that's something I'm really passionate about. I've

538
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 2: always been interested in my body. I've always been interested

539
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: in what makes me feel really good and perform at

540
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: my optimum. So for me, that's an area that I'll

541
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 2: always go to a podcast and listen to and like

542
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: self development is, you know, a pinnacle of happiness for

543
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: me because I just I just love all that information,

544
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: even if it's things that I don't believe, and I'll

545
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: still listening. That's an interesting concept, oh totally, you know,

546
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: And I'll experiment with all these weird and wicky things.

547
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: That's that's one thing, and I gain I'm digressing. I

548
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: did because I can't find it. I couldn't find any

549
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: Like every story on you was like Rachel Fincher's tips

550
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: on how to live your best lunch like all that stuff.

551
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: But there's this one and it's like interesting. So there

552
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: was I think this went a bit like viral. But

553
00:28:54,280 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: your bath habits, Oh yeah, God, you pull on some Yeah.

554
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: So I did a bath with what was its by

555
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: carve soda and what was the saw it on a website.

556
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna try it, loves mate. I'm all about experimenting

557
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: with felt good.

558
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: I sweated like you wouldn't believe. So there was a

559
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: lot coming out.

560
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: But so like and that's the thing that I love it.

561
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: And and as I was preparing for this, I was like, oh, like,

562
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't find Like when I sometimes I know the

563
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: failures and for people listening, I didn't know the failures

564
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: that all the lessons that you wanted to talk about today.

565
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: And so sometimes you can research and get a little bit.

566
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: Of an idea, examples and flows.

567
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,239
Speaker 1: But I'm going in here kind of like going all

568
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: I can find is this bath story tell us.

569
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: But that's and.

570
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: That's where I guess I kind of brought up the

571
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: miss Universe thing only because it's such a young age,

572
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: I imagine it's really easy for people to take advantage of.

573
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: You absolutely and career, and that's where another one of

574
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: my failure slash lessons comes into play, which is all

575
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 2: about self doubt has been massive for me, and it

576
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: goes directly back to what we were saying. I have

577
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: been in front of a camera my entire life, essentially

578
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: since I was fourteen, modeling TV, presenting in the media,

579
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: working for brands, like just basically being a face, a voice,

580
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: or an image for myself or somebody else. So for

581
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: me that with that, naturally, I've just grown up with

582
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: this feeling of they're looking at me, they're watching me,

583
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: they're judging what I'm doing, which is natural. But at

584
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: the same time, I should, you know, you think over

585
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: time you should develop the ability to say it doesn't

586
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: really matter, which is what I've now tried to really

587
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: hone in on, like what my opinion is and what

588
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: I want to say is what is at the core

589
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: of my heart and my soul and is me It's Rachel,

590
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: but it's had a huge impact on my life and

591
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: my personality and my belief systems, and particularly my self doubt.

592
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: And because I've had that judgment, I've always been thinking, Oh,

593
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: I've got to I've got to be a certain way,

594
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: or I've got to say a certain thing, or I

595
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: can't say that, or I can say And I've never

596
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: really had the ability or the lessons too early on

597
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: sorry to not fix that, but nurture that and change

598
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: that into this place of authenticity. So that self doubt,

599
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: self doubt, deep deep, deep self doubt has been big

600
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: for me. And that's been something that has been what

601
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: I would get, what you would in this podcast consider

602
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: a failure. Slash lesson has been I've questioned so much,

603
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: you know, I've questioned. We're just about to go on

604
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: air in three two and I'm still questioning what the

605
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: hell is about to come out of my mail? I'm

606
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: questioning writing my book. I'm questioning, is this going to

607
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: be what these girls are needing? Right now it's going

608
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: to print. I was questioning, I'm constantly. I was constantly

609
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: in this place and I still am from day to

610
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: day of self doubt. And it's this massive journey of

611
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: really diving deep and going it doesn't. There is no

612
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: right or wrong, and it's what you believe in and

613
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: it's who you are, and everyone is completely different, and

614
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to do the best that I can

615
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: and trying to help as many people as we can.

616
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: So I think you've hit the nail on the head

617
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: with the self doubt thing there, because I know personally

618
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: I can relate to that, So I can only imagine

619
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: how many people listening totally can relate to that. And

620
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: I think for me, I see a therapist and we

621
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: work a lot on my I've got massive self doubt.

622
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just debilitating.

623
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: It can totally go away, but it can almost irrationalize

624
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: a very clear and rational situation. Like I can get

625
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: so caught up in ruminating like over and over and

626
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: over and going, well, should do that?

627
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: No?

628
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: Should I do that? Like to the point that And

629
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: that's where Matt's babasso has been so good. He's like,

630
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: calm down, you're acting like you've got anxiety right now,

631
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: Like just be like, let's just reset holds space and

632
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: then I'll be really clear. And even sometimes we'll be

633
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: talking about something business and I'll be like, I've got

634
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: to tackle this tomorrow because I can tell I'm not

635
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: clear and I'm doubting everything I'm doing.

636
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: Yes, And Michael does that for me as well. They've

637
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: got this ability to I'm not saying allowing emotions to

638
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: get in the way is a bad thing, but they

639
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: have the ability to set aside the topical flow of

640
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: negativity that's currently happening and just stay neutral. And that's

641
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: that's what I love from Misha, like I can just

642
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: he helps me get back to that neutral position easier

643
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: in saying that, I think it's really important to understand

644
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: as women that it is so that that wave of

645
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: emotion should be should be rowed like a wave, and

646
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: don't don't deny and say, oh this is this is me,

647
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 2: I'm broken, this is wrong, this is horrible. It's like

648
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: this is just natural. This is the human body doing

649
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: doing it. It's normal thing. It's a defense mechanism.

650
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: And also like down and going over something as a

651
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: protection too, you know, like it's like it's like, well,

652
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to f that up, or I don't

653
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: want to disappoint that person, or I don't but then

654
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: it does come a sense and that's where I love

655
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: like coming to this feeling of like knowing this because

656
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: ultimately we do know inside, like you get a feeling,

657
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: you would get a feeling, say a company comes to

658
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: you and they're like, we want you to be the

659
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: face of this brand. I don't know a truthpaste or something,

660
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, well I don't use that and

661
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: it's not really in alignment with me. This is a

662
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: total hypothetical for anyone thing. It's probably googleing Rachel Finch

663
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: truthpaste never Okay, it's good, and you're like, oh, that's

664
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: not something that I use, Like it's got something laurel

665
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: sulfate or whatever. It is, Like the brand alignment's not

666
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: right for you can kind of feel it in your

667
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: guartes and the other people around you, going this is

668
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: a great opportunity for X, Y and Z, like it

669
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: comes to this and that's where, like I say, like

670
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: the doubt really kind of like goes away when you

671
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: come to this knowing within you and go that's right

672
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: or no, I can do that, but on my.

673
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: Terms exactly, and that knowing, as you said, is completely

674
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: there for all of us. A lot of of people

675
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: though then go, well how do I find that? And

676
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: this is what I'm so passionate about. Okay, it's not

677
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 2: just the food that you eat. It's not just meditation

678
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 2: and sitting for hours in silence. It's not just practicing

679
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: yoga every day. It's not just that's the other one,

680
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: the movement one. It's this beautiful, holistic round circle that

681
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: needs to be filled daily love, care, family, spirituality, joy, career,

682
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: whatever float you both movement every day, Yes, being mindful,

683
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 2: practicing meditation, but all of these beautiful things that help

684
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: us get to that core intuitive, amazing feeling that goes

685
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: this is what I'm going to do today. I'm going

686
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: to stand by that tomorrow. I may not agree with it,

687
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: but I made the best decision on that day with

688
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: the tools that I.

689
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: Had, and knowing that that sphere it looks different from

690
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: other people as well. Exactly you love to meditate.

691
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: Misha has never meditated a day in his life.

692
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: So Matt Bosso, yeah, won't get out of bed without meditating.

693
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: I can't be like meditating, boss, don't talk to me

694
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: like I'll be like some early bird.

695
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to swap or just like get them

696
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 2: to get them to cross parliament totally.

697
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: But there is me like oll meditate generally like I'll

698
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: use it as a tool to help me if I'm

699
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: feeling anxious, or I'll use it if I feel really

700
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: clear after yoga class. Will often sit in meditation after

701
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: I've practiced yoga, but I'm much more fluid, like I'll

702
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: dick it too in and out. And I read somewhere

703
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: that you can meditate an uber and I was like, mate,

704
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: this chick's got it down.

705
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: Can you can you?

706
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: Well, if you put your sonnies on, usually you can

707
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: kind of Like I like the beginning. I like the

708
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 1: takeoff and landing of an aeroplane.

709
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: Oh it's nice, isn't it because you at fifteen and

710
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: twenty you know, you know you say for a little while, yeah, yeah, no.

711
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: One can really talk like that's your phones.

712
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: Are got the significant time there.

713
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I love that that moment. And Matt won't

714
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: fly without meditating at the beginning, like he is like

715
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: way better than me at it. But you've hit on

716
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: like all these you've kind of got all these beautiful, little, fat,

717
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: not little, very large facets to your life. And you

718
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: said earlier that you've spent a lot of your life

719
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: in front of the camera. Has there ever been a

720
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: time you don't have to give specifics, but I even

721
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: know in my career there's been times where I've been

722
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: told you don't look good, you look a bit too

723
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: fat for that, Like I've had like pretty cutting and

724
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: I think that's just part of the media world, and

725
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: I definitely don't need specifics, but I just mean, have

726
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: you ever had a time when you've rocked up on

727
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: a set and you've been made to feel less.

728
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: Than I remember? Keep in mind that they didn't make

729
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: me feel like that. I chose to feel like that.

730
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: So yes, there's been several times almost oh, probably eighty

731
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: percent of the eighty percent of me turning up to

732
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: a job, I felt like that because I chose to

733
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 2: take someone's comment in that way. So almost every modeling job.

734
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: So obviously you're in an outfit as a sixteen year

735
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: old girl and they're looking at the screen like it's

736
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: just not working. What's not working? Is it because I'm

737
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: too overweight? Am I too underweight? Is it? My hips

738
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: aren't looking right? Is my face not what it? Is?

739
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: It me?

740
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: Is it? So that questioning has gone on for so long.

741
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of incidents with my work as

742
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 2: a TV presenter and you know, not pronouncing words correctly

743
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: and really yeah and oh yeah. And it's been like,

744
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: you know, oh, there's because I'm from North Queensland and

745
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: there's obviously it's different to.

746
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: He would be aussy quite aussy. Yeah, your accent doesn't sound.

747
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: It's a much more casual way of speaking. And it's

748
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: different to what Sydney and Melbourne original people.

749
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: Although I'm a Bernie and but I lived on the

750
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: Goldie so I can tap into the combination. I love it.

751
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: Okay, you got the flow girl. But there's been that

752
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: and three modeling agencies I walked into when I was

753
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 2: a teenager said we love you, but you just need

754
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: to lose five kilograms. Yeah wow, one in the US

755
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: and two here in Australia. And that was like at

756
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: the time. I had my brother with me and we left,

757
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: and you know, Dave was like, that is stupid, that's ridiculous.

758
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: We're never coming back here again. That's wrong. You know.

759
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: He was there to support me for that. Yeah, but

760
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: if I didn't have that, you know, and I still

761
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: thought about it. Even though Dave was saying that as

762
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: a young influential girl, I was still listening to, oh

763
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: your little brain soaks that and your heart soaks that up,

764
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 2: just like, oh, I've got to get on the treadmill,

765
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: like they're asking me to just do cardio.

766
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, how wrong? The good thing is would you say that? Well?

767
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: Would you say them? The the tone of modeling is

768
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: changing now absolutely much diverse.

769
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: It is wonderful.

770
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: You know.

771
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: You just flick open a magazine or you just scroll

772
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: through Instagram and we're celebrating different body shapes and sizes

773
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: and ethnicities and it's just it's freaking awesome, you know,

774
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: And that's what it should be. And once again, that

775
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: was probably just my perception of how I chose to

776
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: treat that be very kind No, honestly, you know, like

777
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: you do, think about it, I chose to feel a

778
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 2: certain way, But at the same time, I didn't know

779
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: I didn't have the tools in my toolkit to be

780
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: able to diffuse the situation and gets a.

781
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: Young female, that's hard. It can't be expected.

782
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: You don't have the maturity of a fifty or sixty

783
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: year old that has lived through those experiences. But yeah,

784
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: we live and we learn and that's all the part

785
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: of it.

786
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: And I think it kind of just surround it back.

787
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: This is where that kind of like the knowingness overtakes

788
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: itself down because the reality is like human nature is

789
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: to judge. Yes, So I often say I do speaking

790
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: gigs and I'll be like, within seven seconds of me

791
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: standing here, you've all judged me. Like that's and that's okay,

792
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: Like that's it is human nature. But if if we

793
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: start working on this is where I love like the

794
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: vulnerability stuff that you share because it's like once we

795
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: own who we are, that doesn't really it's almost like

796
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: it just falls doesn't.

797
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: Matter, and the people will still judge and that's totally fine,

798
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: but it's it's not disturbing our inner peace totally. And

799
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: that's the biggest thing here. We don't want to let

800
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: anything that's unnecessary disturb this beautiful soul and beautiful energy

801
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: that's burning constantly in each and every one of us,

802
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 2: that intuition that we can all tap into to create

803
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: a better life.

804
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: You were like a little walking talking inspiration from towns Best,

805
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: So onto the lessons of business stuff. So we've spoken

806
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: about the the mister universe and eating stuff body like

807
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 1: the body care stuff, Yeah, which I love how passionate

808
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: you are about that. Now you come full full circle round,

809
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: which makes you almost think those those lesson times were

810
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: for the purpose of you inspiring and educating so many

811
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: other women.

812
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: I wake up now and just have such a different perception.

813
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: I don't even think about weighing myself. I choose to

814
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,479
Speaker 2: eat based on Okay, how do I want to feel?

815
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: Like, get so many recipe I get all my recipes

816
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: from you. Let you get that paleo bread from Yeah, always.

817
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: Like looking around and up and down the aisles, you know,

818
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: just reading everything.

819
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like that too. I'm like my favorite detective.

820
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: Don't you like a how so? I guess being in

821
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: business myself, Like I've had lessons in business where like

822
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: I've had a smoothie bar and shut it down and

823
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: like and you kind of touched on it with like

824
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: how the bibba Rachel Finch. Initially the program was initially

825
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: dance based and it became too it was too niche

826
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: Is there any business lessons You've walked into a meeting,

827
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: or you've had a meeting, or someone's put something to

828
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: you and you're like, oh, this is the wrong vibe

829
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: or a lesson, or you've had a meeting. It's got

830
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: really close. Things have kind of like progress and then

831
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: the eleventh hour it's just not gone ahead. Stuff like that.

832
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of things along the way, whether

833
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 2: it's meetings with specific people, whether it's been creative directions

834
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: that you just don't agree with, because you know, some

835
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: people that you work with have different ideas, and if

836
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: you're putting your name to something, you want it to

837
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: be as close and as aligned to what you believe

838
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: in as possible. So you know, there's been instances where

839
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: we had original recipes in a lot of the products

840
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: that had artificial you know, colorings, and straight away I

841
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: was like you're kidding me, right, Yeah, Like, no way,

842
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, it's got to taste a certain

843
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: so no. So we chose to work with certain people

844
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: based upon the whole ethos of everything to be one

845
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: percent natural and there needs to be nothing artificial and

846
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: then no obviously no chemical driven derivatives. So that was

847
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: a big one for me. Yeah, every step along the way,

848
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: whether it's to do with the people or the infrastructure,

849
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: or the creativity or the digital concept or the price

850
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: of something, or the way that we're shipping items to customers,

851
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: or our policy on getting back to people within forty

852
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: eight hours, you know, which is quite good. You know,

853
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: you need to get quite a lot of customer support, customers,

854
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 2: questions coming to you. So to get back within two days,

855
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 2: we feel is pretty good.

856
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: How did you get because I saw on Instada yesterday,

857
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: I think you're donating a certain percentage of profits from

858
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: all of your businesses correct to bush Fire Appeal. Like,

859
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: how do you get everyone on board with that? Do

860
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: you just call them up and like, guys, we've got

861
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: to get behind this.

862
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yes, basically, and everyone was obviously a couple

863
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: of people actually came to us, so we of course

864
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 2: own everything, but then we have people that help us totally.

865
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: So we everyone was like more than happy to you know,

866
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: support the cause of course. So we're giving twenty percent

867
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: of every sale over the whole month of January towards

868
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: Red Cross and Wires Wildlife Rescue, and then one hundred

869
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: percent of all new sales from the program straight to

870
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: I saw that, straight to the organizations, and you know what,

871
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: like I the self doubt comes in because I straight

872
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: away I think it's just not enough, you know, like,

873
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: but that's what we can afford to contribute at this

874
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: current point in time. We still have to do things

875
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 2: for ourselves and for the wider community. So we feel

876
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: like I feel like sometimes you know it's not going

877
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: to be in the millions, but at least it's something

878
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: you know, and that's why that's massive. I wanted to

879
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: try even just with taking food down and showing Violet

880
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: how to do.

881
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: That, so we were talking about that earlier.

882
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we dropped some supplies and food off to

883
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 2: the food bank here in South Wales and then also

884
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 2: to the BONDOI so a fly saving club which was

885
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: going out to fire effected areas, which was amazing and

886
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: just it it's a little bit, but it helps just

887
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: take away even just a small amount of that heartbreak

888
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: and when you know you're giving back in some way,

889
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: it just helps fill this cup. And Violet seeing that

890
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 2: and her choosing all the things in the grocery store

891
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: is just beautiful. She's like, Mummy, I think they might

892
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: need pull ups elsa pull up.

893
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: I think also it's more than a number, but more

894
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: the energy like it's also and people say to me

895
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: like hack on, one person make a difference, and I'm like, well,

896
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: what's the energy that you put out? Is that it's

897
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 1: what you choose like you don't need to do millions

898
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: and millions, and like I couldn't give millions of dollars

899
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: of stuff. I know I couldn't because then they'd been

900
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even be able to live, Like I don't

901
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 1: need that kind of money. So I'm like, what can

902
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: I do? And I think it's the energy of that,

903
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: Like the energy of what can I doctly is massive

904
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: and that has a huge ripple effects.

905
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: And we are in such a privileged position where we

906
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 2: have a following online and people are watching. So if

907
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: they come to my Instagram account and find out information

908
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 2: on where they can donate or what we're doing, and

909
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: hopefully that inspires someone else to do a good t

910
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: that's our job half done because that is a privileged

911
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: position that we're in.

912
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: So I learned. So I think a lot of this

913
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: we've got to thank Celeste for. Oh yeah, I saw

914
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: Elise Knowles post a whole range, Like I think I

915
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: woke up one morning a few days ago and I

916
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: was like she'd done a whole album and I was like,

917
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: oh my god, what am I doing? And I just

918
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: quickly and it was goods, Like she like almost subconsciously affected.

919
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: Lisa Messenger did it for me, Megan Gail. You know

920
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: they're just popping up, going, guys, I'm doing a IGTV.

921
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 2: This is where we need help New South Wales, Sydney

922
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: region go here, they need bandages, like and she's just

923
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: listing off all these things and I'm going I've got

924
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: some of that. I'm going to get like yeah, packing

925
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: in it and that's you know, like you just it

926
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: just helps that energy, like you say, and it just

927
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: all attributes.

928
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: And you hit the nail on the head before we

929
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: started recording this. It will change have an impact across

930
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 1: the board for everything I think in Australia.

931
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now moving forward absolutely, I think we were already

932
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: going in that direction of considering our waste and what

933
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: footprint we're having totally. But twenty twenty and beyond is

934
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: just going to be the year I think of conservation

935
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: and preserving our environment and our life as much as possible.

936
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: If you're into the environment, you should look up Take

937
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: three for the Sea. I think you would love it

938
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: so that I've had him on the podcast. Actually his aims,

939
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: Timsel would and the theory as you go to the ocean,

940
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: like anytime you go to the beach. You just take

941
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: three bits of rubbish away.

942
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: With everyone does that.

943
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's sending links because he's incredible, but just literally

944
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: changing the world.

945
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: That's awesome. I'm going to do that from now on.

946
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, take here, see you'll love it. Awesome and and

947
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: the stuff it is great dot go yeah trust me.

948
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, like David Attenborough, he's obviously forged that that side

949
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: of things around the world and people just need to know.

950
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: The more we know and the more and it's like

951
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 2: I loved seeing a quote yesterday. It doesn't matter if

952
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 2: you're not an influencer or you don't have five hundred

953
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: thousand followers. If you know someone, if you have a mum,

954
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 2: if you have a sister, if you have a friend,

955
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: tell them you are in. Everyone is an influencer.

956
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: Everyone can make a giant Like every single person can

957
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: make a different That's the thing.

958
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 2: Totally random question to go from.

959
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: Although I feel like your Holy Thos is to help

960
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: and to like I said, like one word to describe

961
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: you would be kind to me. But you described earlier

962
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: on you were like okay, something either presenting doing like

963
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: you've got all that, You've got your businesses, you've got

964
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: this entrepreneury kind of like, yeah, you're your own boss.

965
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: You're kind of like a real boss lady if nothing

966
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: else mattered right now? Like career wise, what is the

967
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: one where time just stops me? What's the one thing

968
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: that you do and you're like, yeah, Like is it

969
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: the filming? Is that? The TV presenting?

970
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it?

971
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: Like I often say to people, what would you dream?

972
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 1: Like where do you want to be in five years?

973
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: But I feel like you're going to be like I'm living.

974
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 2: That, you know, I honestly think I truly am doing

975
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 2: a mixture of all the things, like because I love

976
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: ticking off goals. I'm very competitive and I love that

977
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: side of me. I'm like, you know, when I'm listening

978
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 2: to an awesome song and about the gym, I'm like

979
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: thinking of all these goals I want to set and

980
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 2: achieve and accomplish more from a personal perspective, because it's

981
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 2: that acknowledgment of I can do it totally. Whether whether

982
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 2: there's the recognition or not, that doesn't bother me one

983
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 2: way or another, but it's the I've actually accomplished what

984
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: I set my mind to. The giving back has been

985
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: something that's that's creeped into my life in the last

986
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 2: three to five years. More and more there's a there's

987
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: a feeling that you get, particularly over the last week

988
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: or two, so a week or two with the bushfires,

989
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: there's a feeling that you get that you cannot describe

990
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: when you help someone else in need. And it's definitely

991
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: something that ignites a greater purpose for me and something

992
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 2: that when I in the future, if I can, I'm

993
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: going to invest a lot more of my time to.

994
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 2: And the other one is my family, and I think

995
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 2: that's first and foremost. The stopping still is being with

996
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: my kids and just like just sitting there and just

997
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: looking into their eyes and watching them let little souls grow,

998
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: knowing that you know you've had influence over that, and

999
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 2: like it's just pretty phenomenal. And that's like, yes, something

1000
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: so magical for me that I just didn't expect, you know, because.

1001
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: Me, you seem like such a natural, Like watching it

1002
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: on insta unfold and I'm like, oh, such a nat

1003
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: And I feel like when I say natural, I mean

1004
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: you're a nurturer.

1005
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very much like I feel like an earth

1006
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: mummer in a way. I love the I love the ocean,

1007
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: I love the trees. I love like just lying in

1008
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 2: the grass. But I love my home and I could spend.

1009
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: Your I why you're born in July, right, Yeah, so

1010
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: you're a cance area, is that right? Your homebody?

1011
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: Man, I'm a homebody and I you've got to rip

1012
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 2: me out of my head to get at home. So

1013
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: for me to come to Alexandria for the podcast amazing,

1014
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: I was like having withdrawal.

1015
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: I promised you at the tailor that you've been and

1016
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: you have been so phenomenal.

1017
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: Don't be ridiculous.

1018
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 1: It is so it is. There's something so wonderful about

1019
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: having somebody on that you've already got a connection with

1020
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 1: and like a friendship with. So it feels very.

1021
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: Like nice.

1022
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a freedom to it. Before I wrap up,

1023
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: are there any little lessons or anything that we haven't

1024
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: touched on that because I know I didn't see your lists,

1025
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: so I.

1026
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: Don't want to. You know, it was we pretty much

1027
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: covered them. Actually it was it was the lack of

1028
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 2: self care early on in my life. It was the

1029
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: self doubt, and it was the language and the actions

1030
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 2: in which I chose to present to my parents when

1031
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 2: I was a teenager, just the way I spoke to

1032
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: my mom and the way I spoke to my dad.

1033
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: You know, I regret saying certain things and we you know,

1034
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 2: we all as kids don't yell yell certain things, and

1035
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 2: that was just one thing that I think to myself, Oh,

1036
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: I wish I could take that back.

1037
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: We've all done that though, and of course, yeah.

1038
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: But it's just you know, they're specific ones. Yeah, that

1039
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 2: really hit home to me because you know, my parents

1040
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: had done the absolute best that they could. And that's

1041
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 2: really hard for me to swallow because like, I just

1042
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: wish I was a bit kind of as a teenager

1043
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: that was it so kind.

1044
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: Like that the fact that you're even saying that means

1045
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: you've got the But I.

1046
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: Know how hard it is as a parent day to

1047
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: day with stress and we're in a privileged position, and

1048
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 2: my mum and dad weren't in such a privileged position.

1049
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: Can you imagine, like people that that were in the

1050
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 2: war and you know, having to deal with normal life

1051
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: stresses just crazy. So I just you know, you just

1052
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 2: wish you had a lot more compassion when you were younger,

1053
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: and you just wish you understood that you know, your

1054
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 2: parents were going through such a hard.

1055
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 1: Day, and they say, you don't really feel that until

1056
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: you become a parent yourself, and you're like, I've always

1057
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: smoked my parents are amazing.

1058
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: I'm like things into perspective. I love your move.

1059
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: I've heard that the second that you bring a little

1060
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: munchkin into the world, you're just like, whoa.

1061
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm always saying to people like, call your mom,

1062
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 2: give your dad a huge tell them you love them,

1063
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 2: look them in the eye, do something nice for them,

1064
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 2: as as small as it might be. Talk to them,

1065
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 2: you know, tell them you love them.

1066
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: And I think take that a step further. If you're

1067
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: lucky enough to have grandparents, I think we forget like

1068
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: they get taken away from us as well, and it

1069
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: becomes very real and it's quite sobering when you're like, oh,

1070
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't that's gone, that's now. And even my name's

1071
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: in a nursing home and Bosso comes all the time

1072
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: and he gets really teary with old He's got a

1073
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: real soft stuff for babies and old people. And he's like, oh,

1074
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: I just next time you go to you now, tell

1075
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: me I'll be there, like he just he yeah, on it.

1076
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: There's a very it's this weird kind of like double

1077
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: edged sword. It like this is almost like melancholy is

1078
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: seeing someone at the end part of their life, but

1079
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: there's a beauty as well, and they've often if their

1080
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: mind is still healthy, they've got a lot to share.

1081
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: Like I used to sit with my grandpa right up

1082
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: until he passed away, and I'd be like, tell me

1083
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: about like as he was in wel water, you know

1084
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: what I mean.

1085
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: I love hearing the stories. I just ask as many

1086
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: questions as I can. I feel like we start and

1087
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 2: end the same way. It's almost like we start in

1088
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 2: this beautiful, innocent, intuitive sense and then we end that

1089
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: way because in the middle there's all this confusion and

1090
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: life learning and understanding and senses around us that are

1091
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 2: trying to deceive us in a way. And then we've

1092
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 2: learned that at the end of the day it doesn't

1093
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 2: really matter, so we come back to that beautiful place.

1094
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: So that's what. Yeah, it's a really beautiful.

1095
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: That's such a good way looking, very freeing. And I

1096
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: think when you're in amongst the I don't know who

1097
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: I am, I don't know what I'm doing. It kind

1098
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: of that knowing again, it's like you got this, Yeah,

1099
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: it's all good.

1100
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: Think of the bigger picture. You can do it.

1101
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't end anything better way. You are incredible. Thank

1102
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: you so so much.

1103
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, my love. And I'll go back to my

1104
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 2: kitchen now.

1105
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 1: And my cancerian mate. You get back home with the fair.

1106
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: That's what that's number.

1107
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: One in the sholl Yeah you grandma, you.

1108
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: Have it any other way. Thank you, you are incredible.

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00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

1110
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Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love

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