1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: This is gem Nation with. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: Well our next guess. It's such a treat she's in here. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 3: I got to know this woman maybe a couple of 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 3: years ago, and as an adult you don't often make 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 3: new friends. She and I locked eyes and have become 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,159 Speaker 3: best buddies ever since. Her name is Katherine Mahoney. She 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 3: is a self confessed over sharer who says her only 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: filter is the one she uses on Instagram. You may 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: know her as the former wife of Anaela Mortal Andrew John's, 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: but she's much more than that. She's the funniest woman 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: I know. She's smart, she's successful, she's fabulous. She's written 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 3: a new book to which I one done and wrote 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 3: it an intro in that Katherine Mahoney, Hello. 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 4: Goodness, what intro? Lovely to see you. 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: Bout hello and Amanda. You're happy with Amanda's intro in 16 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: the book? 17 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 4: Oh look, I thought it could have been longer, but 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 4: now it was amazing, very very very very very nice. Yes, 19 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 4: very very very very funny. I cried when she said 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 4: tip three, it's beautiful? 21 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: Was that bad? 22 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: Catherine and I? During lockdown, when you're all to go 23 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: to exercise animals, you're allowed. 24 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: To make I don't have an animal. Yeah, it makes 25 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: it sound like I'm calling you an animal. 26 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 3: We would meet at the dog park, right, and we'd 27 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 3: buy a coffee at the coffee van, and I'd throw 28 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: a ball from my dog and we'd chat our heads off, 29 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: and you were just writing the book and full of 30 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: I don't want to say trepidation because you you've got 31 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: a thousand brilliant stories. But it's hard to navigate when 32 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: you're writing about other people too, isn't it. 33 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 4: It's really difficult, you know, As you said, I mean, 34 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 4: I can overshare about myself within an inch of my life, 35 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 4: but when it involves other people's that's when the handbrake 36 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 4: kind of comes on. But you're a good litmus test. 37 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 4: I would go can I say this? And you'd go, probs, not. 38 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: Well. 39 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: What I love too is that it is hilarious stories 40 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 3: from your childhood, from being in pubs and pashion. 41 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: Robbie Williams free Robby Williams. 42 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 4: While I was wearing a twu tu a in a 43 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 4: cafe in Ibitha. I was nineteen, so is he just 44 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 4: to date it? 45 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: He was pretty famous. 46 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 4: He just left take that. 47 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: He was How did that happen? 48 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 4: I just tapped him on the shoulder. We were queuing 49 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 4: for the toilet, and I said, can. 50 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: I have a snog? Really? 51 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 4: As easy as that? It was as easy as that. 52 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 4: I'm not sure it'd be that easy now. I think 53 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: he's probably got a team around him. 54 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: So fast forward. You married, were married to Andrew John's 55 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: NRL and mortal. You have a child with Andrews. But 56 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: now your divorce. How did you get to that? How 57 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: did not the divorce, but how did you get to Andrew? 58 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 4: I was working at Sony Music. So I was working 59 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 4: at Sony Music back in two thousand and two, and 60 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 4: I was working in the DVD department. Lots of your 61 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: listeners might not even remember DVDs. They were on the 62 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 4: sort of the sporting Greats. And the first time we 63 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 4: did was Joey Johns, and I was his publicist and 64 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 4: no funny business while we worked together. But you know, 65 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: once the project was over, we fell in love. 66 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: A bit of chemistry there there was. 67 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: And the book is also sort of, as you say, 68 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: it's a bit of a not a how to, but 69 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: it's a book you wish you had when you found 70 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: yourself divorced at forty and starting again. 71 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: Yes, two weeks before my fortieth the wheels fell off. 72 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 4: The marriage not really what I wanted for my fortieth birthday, 73 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 4: and nobody in my circle was divorced, so I had 74 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 4: no litmus test, you know, no one to say, how 75 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 4: is it going to be? What should I do? What 76 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: shouldn't I do? And you know, coming from the UK, 77 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 4: Bridget Jones had got me through a lot of times. 78 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 4: And I just remember walking through the bookshop going, I 79 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 4: wish Bridget Jones had got divorced because she she's full 80 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 4: of you know, comedy and sort of pathos and big 81 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: andies like myself, and she hadn't been divorced. So this 82 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 4: was the book. I guess I wish she'd been on 83 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 4: the shelf when it happened to me. 84 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: You say that a psychic said that. Did the psychic 85 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: predict the book? Or is the psychic predicted that the 86 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: book will become a movie? 87 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: Well, I have six psychics, six around the world. Yes, 88 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: but do you spend a lot of money on the psychic. 89 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: Do you get like second opinion or six opinions? 90 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 4: It ends up going Wow, they've all said something similar. 91 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 4: So for the last I think four years, they've said 92 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 4: it'll be a best seller. It's going to be turned 93 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 4: into a into a movie, right, bring it on. And 94 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: we've already had inquiries from the US for Yeah. 95 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: Do you think the psychics just tell you what you 96 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: want to hear? Though? 97 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. I mean, I mean they 98 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 4: tell you not so great stuff as well. 99 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: They pepper that they'll say, oh, you better watch out 100 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: for your health. You know what, your book's going to 101 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: be a great seller. And then so it's like a 102 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: little it's like there's a little bit of poo in there, 103 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of bread and then and you know, 104 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: I can eat this bread because I'll be and then 105 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: you'll drink more water to look after your health. Yes, 106 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: you know the psychics? 107 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 4: Have you. 108 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: Fed him? 109 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 4: Terrible? 110 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: Edwards in and pretty much he came in and he 111 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: got kind of googled, I would say. And I watched 112 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: the TV show The Mentalist, So I used to believe 113 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: in psychics until I watched The Mentalist that I thought, well, 114 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: he's just a charming guy. But you know, why are you. 115 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: Saying this because you're going to be made into a film. 116 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't because you're talented stuff that you're already know. 117 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: And who's going to play you in the movie Emily Blunt? 118 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: Have you decided yes? 119 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: Well, in the last chapter, I say I'd like fireworks, 120 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 4: some swear words, and Emily Blunt to play me. So 121 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 4: I figure if we can get it in front of 122 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: Emily Blunt, she might go, this looks like fun. 123 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 3: And who's going to play husband? Number are we like 124 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 3: to ask? 125 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 4: One? 126 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: And two? 127 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: Well? 128 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: I thought maybe Tom Cruise for Andrew. Who do you 129 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: think because he's kind of he's hot right now, hero, 130 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 4: he's short, and he's you know, he can he can 131 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: do his own stunts has been Number two hasn't materialized yet. 132 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: But who are you picturing Tom Hardy. 133 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,119 Speaker 4: Hardy or you know, just Tom Hardy but maybe taller 134 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 4: Tom Hardy. Has Andrew read the book, He's read his bits, okay, 135 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: I didn't think that he needed to read the other 136 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 4: you know, the chapters where I maybe popped my cherry 137 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 4: in the piece or my dating disasters later in the book. 138 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 4: There have been a number of those, mainly dating disasters, 139 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: not really a lot kits actually. 140 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: But also you speak bravely about how hard it is 141 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 3: post marriage to try again, and to you said, okay, 142 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 3: I'll pop my post marriage Cheeri some guys in a sharehouse. 143 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: Chapter is excruciating. 144 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 4: Well I left there and cried. 145 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: Yeah it was. 146 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: There's a lot of firsts when you come out of 147 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: a marriage, and a lot of sliding down the wall 148 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 4: and crying, and you know, it's not all corner shans 149 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 4: and vodkas, you know, so there's a. 150 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: Lot of lector was that the other title for the book? 151 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 4: Well, the other title for the book, I couldn't say 152 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 4: on it. 153 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't. 154 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: No, I'll tell you off. It's the first chapter so 155 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 4: people can read. But yeah, it was. I think it 156 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: was really cathartic writing this book seven years down the track, 157 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 4: because it was much nicer to look back and know 158 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 4: that I've got through that sort of tough time, and 159 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 4: also to write about falling in love. You know, I 160 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: think if I'd written this book a year after the splits, 161 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 4: there would not have been this chapter the end of 162 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: the divorce. So it's quite cathartic to go back because 163 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 4: you know, anyone that comes out of a marriage or 164 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 4: a long term relationship, you were in love at some point, 165 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 4: of course, you know, I just didn't. 166 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: Work out, and you also wanted your son to know 167 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: what big love. Yes, and that was a lot of love. 168 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking forward to joining you to launch this 169 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: book tomorrow night, and then onto the dog park straight after. 170 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: To give Catherine a walk around the back. I'm no psychic. 171 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: This is going to be great. I only see great 172 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: things coming forward, so I'm would like to be your 173 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: seventh psychic. 174 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 4: I'll take that charging. 175 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: No, just don't. 176 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: Just a dodgy sandwich. Ktherin Mahoney currently between husbands. That's 177 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: the title of the book and the state of mind 178 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: for you at the moment, On sale now online and 179 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: in all Good bookstores. Catherine, thank you for coming in 180 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: To see you.