1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Welcome for the first time this year Prime Minister Anthony 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:08,120 Speaker 1: Alban easy the coming in. It's been a whirlwind. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: Twenty four hours hours, it's not even twenty four hours. 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 3: It has been a very busy period, but it was 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: an incredibly busy period over Christis New Year, of course, 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 3: with the Bondai tragedy and yesterday's National Day of Mornings. 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: It was a really important commemoration to pay tribute and 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: pay respect to the fifteen innocent Australians who had their 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: lives cut far too short. 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: You were there of course last night. And a Royal 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: Commission has been called into what happened at Bondi. How 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: specifically does that work? What does the Royal Commission look at? 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: Well, they have terms of reference, look at any Semitism sources. 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: They'll look at the interaction as well with security and 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: intelligence issue by using the report that Dennis Richardson is doing. 16 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: That work is underway already. 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: So that's a that's a separate that's a separates. 18 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: The becomes but it will become essentially part of the 19 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: Royal Commission. To me is one of the keys. Okay, 20 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: how do intelligence agencies work? Where there any gaps? What 21 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: was missed. How do we fix that if anything was missed? 22 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: How do the police in New South Wales. But there 23 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: will be implications of course nationally as well, interact with 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: the Australian Federal Police. All of these measures will be 25 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: looked at. We didn't want to wait, though, so we 26 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: legislated this week on hate crime and on gun laws. 27 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: WA's been ahead of the country on gun laws, It's 28 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: got to be said, and credit to Roger Cook for that. 29 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: But these people had hate in their hearts but guns 30 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: in their hands, and the legislation dealt with both. 31 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: You've upgraded the hate speech laws. Will that affect things 32 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: that are planned for this weekend? Australia days renowned for 33 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, lots of protests, create there being protests and 34 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: so on. 35 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: No. People have, of course, have a right in a 36 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: democracy to express views. Where it crosses over is if 37 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: you have organizations like the neo Nazis we've seen demonstrating. 38 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: They disbanded last Sunday in anticipation of the legislation. His 39 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: book to Rear, which is an extremist Islamist organization with 40 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: hate preachers. They've taken their website down already and so 41 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:54,279 Speaker 3: already the fact of the government being prepared to legislate 42 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: has seen a change in behavior. Of course, what we 43 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 3: need to do is entire society. This isn't just a 44 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: job for government. Entire society. We need to take a 45 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: bit of a step back and say, okay, what is 46 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: that makes Australia great. One of the things it does 47 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: is that the Australian Covenant is if you have hate 48 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: or prejudice against any group and you want to come here, 49 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: that's left in the customs Hall. Where a country that 50 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: respect each other, that understand that people here of different 51 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: background face have a right to practice that in harmony 52 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: and we're enriched by it and overwhelmingly that's what our country. 53 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: Are we going to be tighter on that though, because 54 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: some people would argue that we haven't been tight enough. 55 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: Well we haven't because we haven't had the laws. That's 56 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: the problem, so one of them. 57 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: But this is also going down to the customer. I mean, 58 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: this argument is not a new one about the types 59 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: of people who have been coming into the country. 60 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: Well, one of the things that we've done is strengthen 61 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: the right of the Minister to intervene over visas for example, 62 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: and the migration laws that are there are very important 63 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: that we deal with that. This legislation did that. We 64 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: actually wanted to go a bit further in some areas, 65 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: but as those great philosophers Jagger and Richards said, you 66 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: can't always get what you want, but you get what 67 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: you need, and what we have got here is what 68 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: the country needs, and it was a step forward. 69 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: They are feeling that in the coalition things have sort 70 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: of fallen apart there. 71 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: They sure have. That's been coming for some time. They 72 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: don't like each other. They're not capable, they really don't. 73 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: They don't coalige like within. The Liberals don't like each other, 74 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: The Nats don't like each other. The Liberals don't like 75 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 3: the Nats. As people defecting the one nation. 76 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: I think all families, all families. 77 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: This is something that won't turn around though this is entrenched, 78 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: but because they don't have a coherent alternative to put forward. 79 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: We saw that at the last election. That's one of 80 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: the reasons why we got an additional two seats here 81 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: in Wa and Bullwinkler Moore. And that's not going to 82 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: turn around because the personnel aren't. 83 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: Going to be fair. Support for all of the major 84 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: parties is diminishing all the time. 85 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: Our vote went up. But at the last election of our. 86 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: Primary references and things like that. 87 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: But our primary vote went up as well. Our primary 88 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: vote went up at the last election, and here in 89 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: Wa we have won six additional seats over just the 90 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: last two elections. 91 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: On that note, let's move to something a little bit larger. 92 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: Before eight o'clock this morning, we were asking our listeners 93 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: how they last treated themselves. How do you treat yourself? 94 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: What's the last way you treated yourself? 95 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: G I haven't had a treat for some time. 96 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: On this side. You just got married, Well that's probably it. 97 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: November November twenty nine. Yeah, absolutely delightful. It was small 98 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 3: in front of family and friends. 99 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: At the Lives. 100 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: Yes, and because we did everything ourselves just to reassure 101 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: listeners that. 102 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: It did look like a nice Everything. 103 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: That was there was what we had chosen and. 104 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: As it should be. 105 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: Even down too, I've got to say, Jodie ordered there's 106 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 3: those little like candied fruit things that you put in 107 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: in cocktails. We've got hundreds. If anyone out there one 108 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: summon left, there's a lot left over it. I think 109 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: I think maybe the wrong button was pressed on the 110 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 3: ordering things so as zero it got instead of one hundred, 111 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 3: we got a thousand. But we're going on to that. 112 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: We'll put that on market place. 113 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: That's awesome, it was, It was lovely congratulates and that 114 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: was indeed one of the best days of my life. 115 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: I was sure it was absolutely. Look, not a day 116 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: goes by in this world where we don't hear from 117 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: a man you've met a few times mister Trump and 118 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: his attempt to take Greenland? Has he been Has he 119 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: given you a call kicking the tires? How much do 120 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: you reckon we could get for the joint here? Hasn't 121 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: been sniffing. 122 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: About New Zealand might be cheaper? Right? No, it's Look, 123 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: we live in really turbulent times, don't we. And and 124 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 3: you look at some of the speeches that have been 125 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: given in Davos this week with leaders I of course 126 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: have been focused on domestic issues here, but it's just 127 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: another reason why people wanted a stable, orderly, mature government 128 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: to be re elected. 129 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well we thank you for popping in on 130 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: this world trip over here. 131 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: It's always lovely to call an early one. With the disarray, three. 132 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: Years is. 133 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: Too short in my view. I have said that consistently, 134 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 3: so you can expect, you know, a full us to go. 135 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: Full, full term, full term. But there you go. 136 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: Today, full term. I do want to say that I'm 137 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: here as well to pay tribute to my friend Tim Picton, 138 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: his life tragically cut short at just thirty six years 139 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: of age in an act of senseless violence that occurred. 140 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 3: Life is short, yes, but it shouldn't be that short. 141 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: And to his family and friends, all of his colleagues, 142 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: he was really well respected, not just in the labor 143 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: party but in the private sector as well. Had a 144 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: great future ahead of him. Consociate absolutely beautiful young daughter 145 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: was apple of his eye just four years old, and 146 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: she should grow up knowing that her dad was really 147 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: loved and cherished and he'll be much miss well. 148 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: Based on the way he's been spoken about this week, 149 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: I expect she will thank you. 150 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: Very sad reason for you coming over, but we thank 151 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: you for giving us some of your time. 152 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: Always great to be in the studio.