1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: episode is being recorded, the combo marry people. We pay 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: our respects to elders past, present and emerging, and extend 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. Today, 5 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the Rise 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: and Conquer podcast. This is the podcast where which have mindset, 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: self development and becoming your higher self mix soon with 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: a lot of laughs, plus behind the scenes of my 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: life running two businesses and being among Think of us 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: as the perfect combo of brunch with your besties mixed 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: with self development. No matter where you are in your journey, 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: we're here to help you be curious, pull yourself out, 13 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: and embrace radical self awareness. If you're ready to get 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: into the driver's seat of your own life and stop 15 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: letting life past you by, then you're in the right place. 16 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome back to the Potty So guys. Our 17 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: Motherhood series, which we launch in celebration of our new 18 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: course Rebirth, officially finished on Friday, So if you haven't 19 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: gone listen to those episodes, make sure you do. They're 20 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: so incredible. We had so many beautiful women on there, 21 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: and everyone had such different ways of doing motherhood on 22 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: their own terms, and it was just so expanding for 23 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: me personally. But today we have a very fun Q 24 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: and a episode with the favorite rn C guest, Timothy, 25 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: my husband, and this is perfect because it is really 26 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: a part of all the motherhood chats we're having right 27 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: now as Tim being a stay at home dad and 28 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: you know all his his huge evolution with becoming a 29 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: dad too. So we actually put a call out for 30 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: your questions in the Facebook group and ps, if you're 31 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: not in our R and C community Facebook group, makes 32 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: you are because that's where we like chat to you guys. 33 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: We get episode ideas and we have all our great discussions. 34 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: But today with Timothy, we are chatting how to navigate parenthood. 35 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: You know what this next chapter with Ivy is how 36 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: Tim has been feeling since he started his own self 37 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: development journey, how we keep us spark alive and just 38 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: everything in between. This is actually such a deep dive 39 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: into our relationship at you know, as new parents, what 40 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: that has looked like. We also really go into Tim's 41 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: new journey with personal development. So Tim's coach, his name 42 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: is Corey about Well and We found him because he's 43 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: the partner of one of my close girlfriends, So we'll 44 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: chuck the links in the show notes of Corey. So 45 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: his coach's name is Corey Batwell and the course that 46 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: he's doing is set the standard. I just want to 47 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: also disclose like this is not sponsored or gifted in 48 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: any way. We you know, have fully paid for this 49 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: ourselves for Tim, but I have honestly just seen such 50 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: a dramatic change in him since doing this work. And 51 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: I think especially you know, male doing personal development is 52 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: just you just you don't see it as often as 53 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: you know females being open to it, so you know, 54 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: if that is something that you're interested in or if 55 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: you think your partner's interested in. Corey has just been 56 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: so amazing for Tim, Like I yeah, I just I 57 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: feel so incredibly proud of how Tim has like shown 58 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: up for himself and then how he has now shown 59 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: up for me in IVY through doing this work. And 60 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: he's only halfway through his course. So like even a tear, 61 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: what did you think of? 62 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: Like I was gonna say, podcast, you can see and 63 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: hear the difference, and I'm sure everyone else will be 64 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: able to as well. From even the episode at the 65 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: end of last year to this one is just like 66 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: he's like a whole new person but still himself in 67 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: the most beautiful way. Like it's I said this to 68 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: Georgie after we recorded the f with Tim, but it's 69 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: so nice to see him have fun, have a joke 70 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: and then just like straightway go straight back into deep 71 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: conversation easily and be able to switch between that so seamlessly, 72 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: and it's just it's so good to see. 73 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: It's it's incredible, and it's like, why you know, I'm 74 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: even so passionate about this podcast and just what we 75 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: do at RNC is because of how life changing personal 76 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,119 Speaker 1: development can be. And you know, Tim was the most 77 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: amazing human before this course, and then since doing this course, 78 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: he's just like like I can't even explain to you, 79 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 1: like how much better our relationship has been, how much better, 80 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: Like our quality of life has been, our conversations like everything, 81 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: And it's just such a testament to like if you're 82 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: ready for growth and evolution and if you are around 83 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: people who are also ready for that, like how epic 84 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: that is. And you guys will hear a different bit 85 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: Lackatia said, like he's still like the same gorgeous Tim 86 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: who's so down to earth and so beautiful and he's 87 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: just a bit more self aware and emotionally intelligent. Yeah, 88 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: which we love this amazing. Yeah. And I spoke to 89 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: Tim like after the episode and he reflected and he 90 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, like I really loved you know, 91 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,559 Speaker 1: chatting about those things. And he felt really good about 92 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: it too, So oh it was so sweet. So you 93 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: guys gonna love this. You love you know hearing Tim's perspective. 94 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: He is a little bit rogan this episode. 95 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: It wouldn't be a Tim episode if there wasn't. 96 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: We always had to do a bit of disclaimer that 97 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: it's like, look, anything he says it is not a friend. 98 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: It's yeah, no, it's in like a really beautiful way. 99 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: He fully throws me under the bus sometimes too. But no, 100 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: I think you guys will love this episode. And yeah, 101 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: we will make sure we link his coach and everything 102 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: in the show notes. But guys, just a reminder, Rebirth 103 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: starts tomorrow, so exciting. This is our four week live 104 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: course that dives deep into motherhood and really reframing your 105 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: mindset and identity around being a role model not only 106 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: for your family, but for yourself and what that actually encompasses. 107 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: And it's basically an identity course that is going to 108 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: give you the tools to navigate this new season, this 109 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: transition wherever you're at to be in a place in 110 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: your life where you're like, cool, I know who I am, 111 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: I know what I stand for, I know my purpose 112 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: And when you have that, you really can like navigate 113 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: and move through anything. And like, you know, even I 114 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: love I love this episode so much because you can 115 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: see Tim doing his own and like I know, in 116 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: his course, he's done purpose work, he's done identity work. 117 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: Like you can see the difference in him and as 118 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: a person, and it's like it's just silly to think 119 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: that we don't need to do this work. Yeah, and 120 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: obviously this course is very niched to motherhood because I 121 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: just think it's the biggest missing gap that is like 122 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 1: so necessary because it's like, fuck, moms are like moms 123 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: are raising the next generation. Yeah, fuck, it's like so important. 124 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: So you can feel the energy in me. I'm so 125 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: ready for this life course. There's going to be full 126 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: life calls, there's going to be a Facebook group, You're 127 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: going to meet other people, and we are trying to 128 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: tea up a little event, a little in person event 129 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: after the course, just because a big part of this 130 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: course is meeting other you know, women or people that 131 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: are wanting to go on this journey too, and like 132 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: you're here in this conversation, like like me explaining how 133 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: much you know me and Tim's relationship has evolved and changed. 134 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: It really does matter who you surround yourself with and 135 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: where they're currently at and what they're prioritizing. It's just 136 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: it's huge. So you know, if you are seeking that 137 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: group of you know, mums or women who are like 138 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: in that same mindset and wanting the same things and 139 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: wanting to prioritize the same thing, it's going to be 140 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: such a potent place to find those connections too. So 141 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: the link will be in the show notes. And yeah, 142 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: if you're already in rebirth too, I just want to say, 143 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: get pumped. This is going to be the most incredible journey. 144 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. 145 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: I'm so excited to go along with the journey. 146 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: I know, I like I am a T'm so excited 147 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: all right. Quickly Weekly recommendations. 148 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: Mine four part series on Disney plus Ed Chiran's docuseries 149 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: it's called The Sum of It All, and it is 150 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: one of the most beautiful, well made docuseries I've ever watched. 151 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: It's so raw and he's so vulnerable, and his wife's 152 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: actually in it too, sharing some of her perspectives on things, 153 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: and they were like high school sweethearts. It's like the 154 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: best thing I've ever watched, and just what some of 155 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: the stuff he shares of things he's been through, like 156 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: his wife was diagnosed with cancer when she was six 157 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: months pregnant and how they navigated that, and then he 158 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: lost a very close friend and all of that happening 159 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: quick succession, and he talks about his mental health and 160 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: all of that sort of stuff, and it was just 161 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: so nice to see someone so famous be so vulnerable 162 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: and just genuine. 163 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: Love Dshearance so much mean too, I'm obsessed. I adore him. 164 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: He's beautiful, so I. 165 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 2: Highly recommend that. And just his perspective and work ethic too. 166 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: It's just like next level. 167 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: I love when you're getting insight into really famous people's 168 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: lives so that they give you a little a little 169 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: something And I, ah, yeah, okay, I'm definitely watching that. Yeah, 170 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: you'll have to let me know what you think, what's 171 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: your recommendation. My recommendation would be, like we said this 172 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: in Friday's episode, but we've just gone through, like astrologically, 173 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: some huge shifts and changes, and mentally I was in 174 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: a bit of chaotic energy, Like my outside world was 175 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: like perfect and fine and beautiful, but my internal world 176 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: was a bit crazy. And my recommendation would be like, 177 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: in those moments, realize that you don't have to make 178 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: it mean anything, and it's so much about your perspective 179 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: of For example, when I was going through that time, 180 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, cool, what do I actually want 181 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: to string here? For example, in those moments of feeling like, 182 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: oh I'm confused, I don't know what I want, I'm 183 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: feeling not grounded, blah blah blah, I was like, well, 184 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: if I did know the decision, what would it be? 185 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: And you know, like almost like experimenting with like when 186 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: things aren't going great, of how you act and how 187 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: you be in those moments while balancing just letting yourself 188 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: have those moments. And I was telling the girls like 189 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: this one day, I was like just in a bad mood, 190 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: but I wasn't interested in shifting out. I just wanted 191 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: to be in the bad mood. Yeah, but then I 192 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: was like, look tomorrow we ship things, and I did, 193 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: and I think it's like life is such this beautiful 194 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: experiment of like realizing when you have challenges, it's like 195 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: such an invite for you to be like cool, what 196 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: is this trying to mirror me? What's the lesson? What 197 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: I want to change here? Do? I just want to 198 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: fucking feel into this feeling, And like when you have 199 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: the tools and navigation, it's like things just feel so 200 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: much lighter. And like my whole conclusion from that time 201 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: was like, cool, I'm just gonna surrender. I love that 202 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: because surrender is like the hardest thing for me personally. 203 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: So I'm like, cool, this is an invite to surrender. 204 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: So I just get to surrender and I don't have 205 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: to make it mean anything. 206 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: I really like that just allowing yourself to feel the 207 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 2: shitty feelings and not going I'm gonna have a bad 208 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: week or yeah, yeah, beautiful, beautiful. All right, let's get 209 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: into this very very good episode. So our first question 210 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: is did you struggle with your relationship the first year 211 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: after having Ivy? Did you feel disconnected after having Ivy? 212 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: And how did you rekindle your spark. 213 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 3: We're actually playing now, we're. 214 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: Going, yeah, there, we're going, we're recording. 215 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, OK, yeah, I think we did like massively. 216 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: What would you say, You're like big struggles were? 217 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: I think like the biggest thing was probably our connection 218 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 3: you and I. 219 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 4: Would you agree on that? 220 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: I think for me it was such a transition from 221 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: going to being both so independent and having our own 222 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: things and our own time, and then you know, that's 223 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: one day, and then the next day is you have 224 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: this little human who needs you all the time, and 225 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: you're both struggling to sleep, your you know, struggle, you 226 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: can't even leave the house. There's all these like external 227 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: pressures that come into the relationship, and I think for 228 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: me it was like it was just really hard because 229 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: I felt disconnected from myself, So of course I was 230 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: going to feel disconnected from Tim. Would you agree, Tim? 231 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: As in like more or less you were trying to 232 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: sort of find yourself again because you felt a bit 233 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: like well. 234 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: Who I am? Who am I in this new stage? 235 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: And because it was so foreign and uncomfortable and new, 236 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: I then felt disconnected from myself. So then I felt 237 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: like in our relationship, I felt disconnected from you, because 238 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't even know who the fuck 239 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: I am. Would you agree? Yeah? 240 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: And I definitely think because your hormones are sort of 241 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: all over the place, like you're just giving birth, and 242 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: it's just like you were very emotional. 243 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 4: To you put it so lightly to. 244 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: My face, to a. 245 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: Tear, which is completely normal, and it's like trying to say, yeah, 246 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: it's like, I guess I just never knew you like that, 247 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: so I didn't know how to handle you. So I 248 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: was like very like stand offish in a way. 249 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: So she was being emotional and you shut down. 250 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 4: To the imaure and I just got golf. 251 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you wonder I I wanted to divorce you 252 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: ask the time. 253 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: And it took like this sort of weird stage we're 254 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 3: both trying to like work it out, and then I 255 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: think we'll look pretty much like after a whole It 256 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 3: took us a whole year to like finally sort of 257 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: get a good connection with each other again, because it was. 258 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: Like, well, don't you think it's also finding life, like 259 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: finding your feet in this new life. It took us 260 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: a good twelve months to figure out about our own needs, 261 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: Ivy's needs. I think also because when you throw in 262 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: the start of having a colic baby who cries all 263 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: the time and you know, is really neaning you. It 264 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: throws like a whole other pressure to your relationship. And 265 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: even if you didn't have a colic baby, I think 266 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: you would still feel a very similar thing. And I 267 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: think I think it's very normal. But in saying that, actually, 268 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: let's bring it back a little bit, tim, do you 269 00:15:53,800 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: not agree, Probably the very first kind of postpartum for tryings, 270 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: I actually felt even more connected to you because of 271 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: birth and us having a baby together. Like if you 272 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: think about actually just after birth, because we experienced the 273 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: whole birthing situation, like I felt so connected to on 274 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: that level after just going through so much. But then 275 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: it's like you get thrown into a weird limbo stage 276 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: after that of like, oh, we've got to figure out 277 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: like what life now looks like for both of us. 278 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: It's almost like you could almost call it. 279 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: The honeymoon stage of having a baby, where it's like 280 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: the first is like, oh my god, we got this thing. 281 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: We're so connected, and then like it's like next minute 282 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: it's like the non sleep wears off and then the 283 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: you know, like the connection our connections sort of wore 284 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: off a little bit, and then it's just like, oh, man. 285 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: Like here's this crying baby. 286 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: It's just like the sound of a crying baby for 287 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: nobody is like, so I mean I wouldn't. 288 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's like the most Yeah it was. 289 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: It's definitely like the most stressful. 290 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: Things we've been there. 291 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 4: Yeah that's right. 292 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 293 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: So yes, in conclusion, I feel like I feel like 294 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: we definitely struggle, and I think it's so like that's 295 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: so normal, and I don't feel like weird or a 296 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: shamed saying that because I'm like, I just yeah, I 297 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: think it's like you're navigating this new season of life. 298 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm so passionate about making sure you 299 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: have the tools to navigate this new season. And that's 300 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: why I've done a lot of personal development. You've been 301 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: doing a lot of personal development, and that has helped 302 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: us so much navigate this new season, because yeah, it's 303 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: pretty it's pretty fun. 304 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 4: It is. 305 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: And then, like, to be quite honest and transparent, I 306 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 3: think it's like it's almost healthy in a way to 307 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 3: have those suations and. 308 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 4: Yeah struggles, yeah, because and. 309 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: Then you get to work them out and then you're like, oh, oh, 310 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 3: we worked through that together instead of like just everything 311 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: being peachy like hugely. 312 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's interesting because I was actually chatting to someone 313 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,239 Speaker 1: recently about that and they were like, do you and 314 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: Tim fine? And I was like, of course we do. 315 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: But it's like you know, constructive finding in regards to 316 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: you have a struggle and issue and you work through 317 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: it and you find out something new about this person, 318 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: you find out how to navigate it. And I feel 319 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: like that was obviously that stage but like just on steroids, 320 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: because it's like so next level. But that's such a 321 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: beautiful conclusion. Tim of like it, like look at us 322 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: now and like going through those struggles and obviously it 323 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: was so hard at the time, but now kind of 324 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: being on the other side of like, wow, I'm so 325 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: glad we went through those challenges because our relationship now 326 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: and our connection now and just even who we are, 327 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: like I am I'm not the same person as I 328 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: was when I gave birth to ivy Am. I No, definitely, 329 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: you were completely different human And like, how incredible is that? 330 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: Tim? Do you feel like you sort of had the 331 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: same identity struggle Georgie did after becoming a dad and 332 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: how did you like navigate that when you were at 333 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: home with Ivy most. 334 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: Of the time. 335 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 4: Well, to be honest, like I'm still navigating it in 336 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 4: a way that. 337 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 3: For those I don't know, you know, I was working 338 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: in the business quite heavily involved, and then from going 339 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 3: to being quite independent to looking after a little human. 340 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: Stay at home dada, own dad, and it's. 341 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: Just like it's a massive change. And probably like since 342 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: doing all this personal development and stuff, that's like that's 343 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: when I've sort of felt like, okay, like it's all good. 344 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 3: So that's I mean, I've been doing that for a 345 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: few months now, and I mean, what's that. 346 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 4: Ivy's almost a year and a half. So yeah, I 347 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 4: guess I still. 348 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 3: Haven't really got to handle on it. But it's like 349 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: I'm working it out along along the way. 350 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: And the personal development mindset works like helped a lot. 351 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 352 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: Oh, I couldn't even start to comprehend how much it's 353 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: like help me, like mentally, they put the. 354 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: Fucking dog down. 355 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 2: So how did you rekindle your spark? I know you 356 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: both did a lot of personal development individually to sort 357 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: of come back to yourselves or you're coming back to yourselves, 358 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 2: but in your relationship. 359 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: What did you do to rekindle your spark? Honestly, that's 360 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: it like when you because that's the thing is like 361 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: at the moment, I guarantee so many people would be 362 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: listening to this thinking it's their partner's issue for whatever reason, 363 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: it's their baby's issue. It's it's it's always the other. 364 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 4: Person, always outside issues. 365 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: It's always the external issue. But I guarantee you it's 366 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: a lot to do with yourself. And it's like this 367 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: self honesty and self responsibility that has come with both 368 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: of the work we have been doing, and so much 369 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,239 Speaker 1: of it of I used to put a lot of like, 370 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: let's just give a really quick example of you know, 371 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: I am huge on social media of having me time, 372 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: and that's even like I recently got my human design 373 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: read and it's like it's literally my child of human 374 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: design that like I need me time. I need alone 375 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: time to recharge. And at the start of our journey, 376 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: I used to put this weird thing on tim of 377 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: like I want you to give me permission to have 378 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: my alone time. I want you to encourage me. Oh, 379 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: you make me feel guilty if I go and have 380 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: my alone time. But it's like none of that was 381 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: actually true. It was all me. It was all my 382 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: own beliefs, it was all my internal stories. And once 383 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: I cleared that art, I was like, cool, I'm gonna 384 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: go get a massage. This is important to me. And 385 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: Tim's like yeah cool. Tim's like I'm gonna you know, 386 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: I need a good day of goal for to his 387 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: development of you know, at night or whenever. And I'm 388 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: like cool, And there's no there's no projections, there's no 389 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: like weird energy in between us because we have cleaned 390 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: up our own shit. And I honestly think that is 391 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: like the biggest thing because then once you clean up 392 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: all the stories and the shit in between you, we 393 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: naturally just come together. And I feel like since we 394 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: have done our own internal work, we naturally have just 395 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: grown stronger. 396 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 4: Would you agree, Yeah, definitely. 397 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: It's like we it's like we both now know that 398 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: we're both on this, on this path, on this journey. 399 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 3: So it's like if we I guess us both knowing 400 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: that if we're doing things in you know that they're 401 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 3: like us, Tom, that's going to be beneficial towards like 402 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 3: our future. And it's like, go, like, you have my 403 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: full support almost in doing whatever you need to do. 404 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: But also I guess self awareness to realize when you 405 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: are getting feelings about the other person and having awareness. 406 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: Like we even had a conversation the other night, Tim 407 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 1: where I said to you, because you're like, you're being 408 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: a bit sparsy with me and I it's sassy, And 409 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: I said to him, actually, when I reflect, I'm feeling 410 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: really stressed at work and knowing that you're going to 411 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: golf tomorrow while I have a full day of work, 412 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: I have been being passive aggressive towards you because and 413 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: then I unpacked it and I was like, really, I'm 414 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,239 Speaker 1: angry at myself because I took on too much at 415 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: work and now I feel stressed, and then Tim gets 416 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: to go and enjoy this day of golf. But again, 417 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: that's nothing to do with Tim. He's got his side 418 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: of the street clean, and it's me accepting more staff, 419 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: taking on more staff, feeling stressed and being like so 420 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: fucking annoying that you, you know, go and tay golf. 421 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: But it's actually not about him, it's about me. And 422 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: I had that realization I said that to you, where 423 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,719 Speaker 1: I was like, I know, this is actually not about you, 424 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: It's about me, and I realize it's my shit. So 425 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: even to have that awareness of like, oh, I'm wanting 426 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: to be passive aggressive because it's like you're, you know, 427 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: going to play golf and I'm going to work. But 428 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: really it's not that. It's because I took on too 429 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: much at work and I'm feeling stressed. 430 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 431 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: So even those moments of like where's before you know, 432 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: when you don't have this conscious like level, it's like, well, 433 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: you just pissed at your husband and you hold resentment, 434 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: and you hold resentment and then because you're resentful towards him, 435 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: he's resentful towards you because he's like, why is she 436 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: being like that? And so I guess like I brought 437 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: that conversation in and we had the conversation about it 438 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 1: and we were able to unpack it, and then I 439 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: was like cool. 440 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 2: Our next question how do you support each other in 441 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: stressful moments so that you can both live your best lives. 442 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 2: So if there's like a lot going on, or it's 443 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: a busy day and someone says I need a massage 444 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: or I need to go to golf, how do you 445 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: show support to each other? 446 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: Well, not even that, let's backtrack it to you know, 447 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: let's just say, Tim, I've said I'm feeling overwhelmed, I'm 448 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: feeling stressed out. What do you do? 449 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 4: All right? 450 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 3: So to answer that question, what we do now is 451 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: I think is really beneficial to both of us because 452 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 3: we get to put our emotions out on the table 453 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 3: and then put them out to the universe so they're 454 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: like not built up on the inside. 455 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: We'll say, all right, so what we'll do. 456 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 3: We'll sit down at dinner and then I'll say, you know, 457 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: George just said to me, you know, she's feeling a 458 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 3: bit stress and this, and that said, what we all 459 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 3: your emotions today? Tell me all your emotions that you 460 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: felt today, and we'll go through them. 461 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. Guilt, that's interest, disappointment a. 462 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: Little by that, And then I'll ask her the situations 463 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: that she felt guilty. So then she will just slowly 464 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: tick the boxes and then she'll like just talk it 465 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 3: out and she'll be like, oh, well, actually I probably 466 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 3: didn't actually need to be guilty, then, did I? And 467 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 3: then almost like ansie your own sort of issues in 468 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: a way or. 469 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would definitely say, you know, we'll talk about 470 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: like then the underlying factors of like, for example, with 471 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: that golf thing of me being like, it's not actually 472 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: the feeling of resentment to you, it's the feeling of 473 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: resentment towards myself for over committing and getting to that. 474 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: Like Tim will keep asking me the questions of like, well, 475 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: why do you feel that way? Or could there be 476 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: another way to you know, see this, or you know, 477 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: those getting deeper questions, and then I unpack it myself 478 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: and realize what it's actually about. Switch doesn't have as 479 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: much weight. 480 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: And do you ever sort of bring things up to 481 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: each other that the other might not see? Yeah, Like 482 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: Tim will highlight aspects of you shaming yourself that you 483 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: might not have picked up on or you're both putting 484 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: onto it. 485 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 3: It was we had so many great chats on that trip, 486 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 3: didn't we. 487 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: Well. 488 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: I think it's about creating space for the other person. 489 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: So a big thing is I can usually get to 490 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: my own realizations or get to the quote unquote real 491 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: feeling what I'm you know, processing, but Tim actually gives 492 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: me the space. So we do these in moments of 493 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: when Ivy's not around. So this is a big thing. 494 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 4: If you have kids, the most important this is like 495 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 4: a must. 496 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: So Tim will ask me if this happened last night? 497 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: Tim asked me something in the shower, and I just said, 498 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: can you just wait, I'd love to talk to you 499 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: about this at dinner, knowing it was a deeper conversation 500 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: and knowing that all three of us are in the 501 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: shower and it's like Ivy needed to be dried and 502 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: her nappy on soon. So I'll even say that of 503 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: if it is something where I'm like, oh, I need 504 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: space and time from Tim of this, I'll say, can 505 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: we talk about this at another time, And then we 506 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: have a ritual of Ivy goes to better around six, 507 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: and then we have dinner together, no phones, no TV, 508 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: and we talk through those certain. 509 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 3: Things, not because we like have to, because like because generally, 510 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 3: like genuinely like we want to yeah, right, Like I 511 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 3: want to like get just be like, oh babe, I 512 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: can't wait to talk to you about this and get 513 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 3: it off my chest from what happened today because I 514 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 3: felt this this this, you know, and then it says like, oh, 515 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 3: I feels so fucking good. So then I can like 516 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: go to sleep and be like, oh, like put it 517 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 3: out there. She's gonna like hold me accountable because now 518 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: she knows how I feel. It's just like sharing your emotions, 519 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: but it's like just being open about it instead of 520 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: bottling it all up and going to sleep, and then 521 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: you wake up and you still get a little bottled 522 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 3: up and you just like, you still feel like shit 523 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: the next day, and you still probably have resentment to 524 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: that with that next person, and it's just it's very unhealthy. 525 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 3: You hold your emotions in, Like the best thing is 526 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: day to day, letting them out at the end of 527 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 3: the day. 528 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but would you say it's only been like to 529 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: have the space and time to do that is the 530 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: key thing, absolutely, yeah, because before that. It's not before that. 531 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: But it's like, if you know, me and Tim are 532 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: trying having this deep conversation, I just fucking crying or 533 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: something like, you just won't get there. So that's why 534 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: it's really important to have those times of I am 535 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 1: struggling right now, I am feeling these feelings. Let's actually 536 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: book in a time. And I know that sounds like, 537 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: let's book and a time to talk, but when your parents, 538 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: you literally have to do that. But I think the 539 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: biggest difference for us is like just holding space if 540 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: the other person is struggling. It's holding space for that person. 541 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: I think that's so huge, and it's like it's not 542 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: like that you're going to put aside like hours with 543 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 3: each other. Like generally our chats are like what like 544 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 3: a good chat. We can have a really good chat 545 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 3: and like get our emotions out and then understand each 546 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 3: other a bit more in like half an hour. I'm 547 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: sure everyone here can like spait half an hour together. Yea, 548 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 3: like intentional time just sitting there watching Netflix on your phone, 549 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 3: like half an hour. 550 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 1: And after that half an hour, I feel really filled 551 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 1: up by Tim. I feel like he's really you know. 552 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: I feel like we've given each other that time that 553 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: I will then go have a sauna alone or I 554 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: will still then get in my alone time. It's not 555 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: like me and Tim are spending twenty four seven together. 556 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: But it's like if you can hold space for that person, 557 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: eye contact, not interrupting them, taking them deeper, Like all 558 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: those learned things are so important that. 559 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: How do you preserve your relationship with such a busy lifestyle. 560 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is we prioritize each other. 561 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: So I prioritize Tim. Like he said, it's half an hour, 562 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: but we're going to have no TV, no phone, and 563 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: dinner together and that's our time time. And also we 564 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: prioritize each other on the weekend, whether it's a couple 565 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: of hours, like, it's just we are constantly putting our 566 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: relationship first, even though we've got a million other things 567 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: on our plate and. 568 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: We could be doing heavy of other things where it's like, 569 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 3: but I get like excited for the weekends because we 570 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: get to have Brecky Yimi and Ivy. And then it's 571 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 3: like her normally her first NAP's like two hours, so 572 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: it's like two hours that we could be chatting instead 573 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: of like like we would just change that time from 574 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: night time from dinner m m to that her first nap. 575 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 4: We're gonna have a really good hour long chat. 576 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: Even mm hmmm. Slush Jen literally said what we said 577 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: that about our holiday, didn't we? Tim Tim goes, oh, 578 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: like I feel so connected and I feel like this 579 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: is the deepest we've gone in our relationship. But fuck, 580 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 1: I'm a bit exhausted from talking. 581 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 4: I was like I needed a holiday from my holiday. 582 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 4: Action droined. I came back and I was like. 583 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: Holy ship, it was so good, but it was just like, oh, 584 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 3: my god, I don't want to I want to talk 585 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 3: to anyone. 586 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 4: For like four days, we just. 587 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: Didn't stop talking to each other the whole time, and 588 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: like deep deep convo you know, like those. 589 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 4: Like really you really got to think about it. 590 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: Like oh that's amazing, Yeah, like going through like what 591 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: is your life your deepest fear and how would you 592 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: overcome it? 593 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 4: Time goes so quick. 594 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 2: Our next question a little more glad hearted. Do you 595 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: both want more kids? 596 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: Oh? Was that a note? 597 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 4: I have one more? 598 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: One more jo? I don't know who he's having that 599 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: one kid? Yeah, one kid Ivy. No, like since having Ivy, 600 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: like she just the best, Like she's the greatest little 601 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: human and I couldn't already see like she's gonna be well, 602 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: she is the light of my life. So like when 603 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: I think about it that way, I was like, you know, 604 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: i'd love another little Ivy. Oh so cute, so like yeah, 605 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: but also I don't want to put time lines on it. 606 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to put pressure. And even I said 607 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: to Tim, I'm really enjoying as you guys have probably seen, 608 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: like we're really prioritizing our relationship and us as a 609 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: family of three. This year in regards to we have 610 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: holidays booked, Me and Tim have special getaways and it's 611 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: kind of like this year of really nourishing our family 612 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: unit and our relationship. So that just feels really good. 613 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: So cute. 614 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 2: Tim, Yes, did you ever feel pressure to start doing 615 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: personal development or that Georgie might have been outgrowing you 616 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: because she was doing personal development? 617 00:33:59,280 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 618 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 4: Get left behind you. You gotta do something about it. 619 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: Do you want to tell the audience of like why 620 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: you decided to start doing your own personal development? Do 621 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: you want to? 622 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 3: I think the pinpoint of it was when like I 623 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 3: knew you were sort of doing your own thing, and 624 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, it's all good, like quite supportive, 625 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 3: but I was just like I didn't really see the 626 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 3: light almost but right, So there was signs. So at 627 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: the start of the year, I don't know what it was, 628 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 3: but at the start of this year, I started seeing triple. 629 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 4: Figures, triple numbers, sorry, angel numbers. 630 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 3: Angel numbers, So anything I look at my phone, angel 631 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: numbers are just like, what the fuck is going on? 632 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 3: Like obviously it's like means I'm doing something right where 633 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 3: it's like something big is about to happen. 634 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 1: And Tim's angels were calling on him. 635 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was like, but I was like, what's this. 636 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 3: I didn't say anything to do it for like a 637 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 3: couple of months. I'm like, now I said it. 638 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 4: I keep saying like three numbers like everywhere, like everywhere 639 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 4: I go, and then hey, a love story short and 640 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 4: then I was like fuck anyway. 641 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 3: Anyway, So George a retreat to do with her personal 642 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 3: development and she got back and she was like I 643 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: could just see and she was like a fully changed person. 644 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 3: She's like, oh my god, just after two days of 645 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 3: doing my retreat, I just feel like so like recharged, 646 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 3: so much more clear. 647 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 4: On my shit. And then I was like I really 648 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 4: like and yeah, so anyway. 649 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: I tell them the actual conversation. Do you remember it? 650 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 4: Not really? 651 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 1: So I remember having a conversation with you, and I said, 652 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: you know, me and t Him have been together for 653 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: eleven years now, isn't it. And it's crazy because we 654 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: met when I was seventeen, he was twenty two, and like, 655 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 1: for us to continually evolve and you know, be together 656 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: is so huge because if you think about it, like 657 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: we're completely different people. But I said to him, a 658 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: part of our relationship and like, you guys would feel 659 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: this in the podcast is like I'm someone who constantly 660 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: loves to up level, constantly try new things, constantly go 661 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: to my edges, and Tim has always met me there 662 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: and he's constantly evolved too in our relationship. But something 663 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: that I noted on the retreat was it usually took 664 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: me having this big conversation with Tim about me going 665 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 1: to the next level, what I'm feeling, and then him 666 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: going Okay, cool, yup, like let's do it, let's go, 667 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: And I just said to him, I'm noticing that's starting 668 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: to not feel good to me anymore. And with Ivy 669 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: now and you know, our lives and the businesses and everything, 670 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: it didn't feel good for me to It almost felt 671 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: like Ivy's in the office guys at least trying to 672 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: And I remember saying to you something of the words 673 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: of like like you're so incredibly at meeting me where 674 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: I'm at, but sometimes it feels like I don't have 675 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: the energy anymore to help you get to that stage. 676 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: Because even if you think about Rise and Congo, it's 677 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: like that's even what I do in my business. I'm 678 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: constantly like asking people to meet me and be like, 679 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, let's go, let's up level. And I remember 680 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: just kind of saying that to you in regards to 681 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: like the energy if we're talking about energetics, and I 682 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: was like that sometimes that just feels really heavy to me, 683 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 1: and I honestly feel like that's all I said, and 684 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: you were just like I remember saying that to you 685 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: and you just being like yeah, cool, like I fully 686 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: get it. And then I remember a couple of weeks 687 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: later you coming to me and being like, I'm gonna 688 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: get my own coach. I'm gonna do it. That's my 689 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: thinking of the reality is that your Yeah. 690 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 3: It was along as line because obviously when you went 691 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 3: out of a treat, you went with Chloe, and then 692 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 3: you're like, her partner, Corey is a coach. 693 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 4: His life. It's like putting her face on the thing. Yeah. 694 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 3: And I was like, because I was a bit I 695 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 3: know even then, I was like, oh, like you know, 696 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 3: it's almost like subconscious I knew I had. 697 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 4: To do it. 698 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: Was your ego, my ego. 699 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 4: Being like, oh, are you sure? Like you're pretty cool? 700 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 3: Like you're pretty like it's pretty good where you're at, 701 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 3: you know, like you guy, like you know, you got 702 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 3: your ship together, you know, compared to a lot of 703 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 3: other people then, And that's the whole thing, was like. 704 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: The deciding moment of like, yeah, no, I am going 705 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: to do this for myself. 706 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 3: I think it was just a bit of a like 707 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 3: aha moment for me because it's like we were like 708 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 3: when you were sort of saying and it did take 709 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 3: me a lot of time to get into a deeper 710 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 3: conversation where it's like. 711 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 4: It shouldn't you know what I mean? Yeah, like like 712 00:38:59,040 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 4: it took. 713 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 3: You for just to get I'm like, oh, yeah, let's 714 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 3: get into this conversation. Whereas like soon as I started 715 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 3: doing this cool stuff, it's like we can just go 716 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 3: into a deep conversation like that. It's like a whole 717 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 3: different It's like a whole mind shift. It's like I'm 718 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 3: thinking so differently now, so much more openly minded. I 719 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 3: guess to be I didn't feel very emotionally intelligent, So 720 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 3: for me to figure that out was I guess I 721 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 3: wasn't brought up to be emotionally intelligent. I just I 722 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 3: didn't have that. I guess I got that from mum, 723 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 3: you know that I love you like rah rah, But 724 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 3: I never got that from my dad, which shows up 725 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 3: until this point now of doing personal development. So it's 726 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 3: like the feeling of like vulnerability and like it's okay 727 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 3: to feel vulnerable. 728 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: When you say emotionally intelligent, do you mean talking about. 729 00:39:54,840 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 3: Your emotions correct in the way, but like to yes, 730 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 3: expressing your emotions, I guess not only to women. But 731 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 3: there's this weird thing like this. It's like this bro 732 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 3: code where it's like you can't talk your emotions to 733 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 3: each other because it's a sign of weakness. 734 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 1: Basically, do you feel like you express yourself to your friends? 735 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 4: Now? I don't. 736 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: And it was a bit of a red flag moment. 737 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 3: Massive red flag moment. It's like, why don't I have 738 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 3: people in my life where I can talk on a 739 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 3: deeper level too? But it's because I've been brought up 740 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 3: like that, and the people that are hung around growing 741 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 3: up don't. 742 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 4: We're brought up like that as well. So we just 743 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 4: have this whole thing where it's like real conditions. 744 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 3: We're all like, yeah, we're all like mates, but like 745 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 3: not only on a very surface level relationship. 746 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,919 Speaker 1: Which I would say is a very usual experience for men. 747 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 4: And it's. 748 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 3: The thing is, I'm so thankful for those relationships because 749 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 3: that's brought me to who I am today, but loving forward. 750 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 3: It's like I need I think I need like a 751 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 3: deeper relationship or decent deeper relationships with males. 752 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: Well also you need the tools to know how to 753 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: have a different relationship. And that's why you were like, yes, 754 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: I actually I need help in this department. 755 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I was like, there's no way I can figure 756 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 3: this out by myself. 757 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: No. I love that answer. It's a great answer. 758 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 4: All right. 759 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 2: Next week someone wants to know how do you allocate 760 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 2: house chaws. 761 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 1: Between each other? 762 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 4: Allocate? 763 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: Tim just doesn't. 764 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 4: No allocation. 765 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 3: We drew lie the other day when remember when the 766 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 3: other day it was like you were like interaction and 767 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 3: then you just dropped your undies in the toilet and 768 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 3: then you walked out and you went to like walk out, 769 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 3: and I was like, whoa wow, this is the line here. 770 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 4: You're not a fucking ten. 771 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 3: Year old little boy dropping his undies at the toilet, 772 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 3: all right. You pick yourundies up and you put them 773 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 3: in the dirty clothes a basket picking not going and 774 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 3: picking your up after you. 775 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 2: With you. 776 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 4: That's what little boys do. 777 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 3: And then and then she turned like what. 778 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: I literally went fair enough because as soon as he 779 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: called me a little boy. I went, yeah, this is 780 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: probably the line. 781 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 2: No. So in like, did you ever have a conversation like, 782 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 2: for example, well maybe when you went back to work. 783 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: To be like to be to be very transparent, Like 784 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 1: we have a cleaner, we have a chef. Tim does 785 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: the outside stuff himself during ivy snaps usually or in 786 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: the afternoon. Tim does a lot of like the bins. 787 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: He's you know, he's he loves things to be a 788 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 1: certain way. So Tim has a certain way of doing 789 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: things like what Tim does the washings and bucks my 790 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,959 Speaker 1: ship a lot, puts it all in dry, certain things, 791 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: And I'm like, can you not wash this because I 792 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: wanted to stay nice. 793 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 3: If George is really fucked me off, I'll do a 794 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 3: dark quaestion and put her favorite white thing. 795 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 4: Motherfucker, I'm jack. And that was a complete joke. 796 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: Godessly, you fucking better not it. 797 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 4: I don't, all right? Should we? Also? 798 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 2: What time do you go to bed so that you 799 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 2: can be a morning person? 800 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 4: We're in bed by eight? 801 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,439 Speaker 1: Hey, Yeah, I'm in I'm in bed usually earlier. 802 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 4: Like if it's seven thirty, I'm like, let's go, we're 803 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 4: going to bed. Yeah, And then we. 804 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 3: Got this new rule no phones after right, so George 805 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 3: will read her would be really stick and by I. 806 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: Think I thought it was early in that and. 807 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 4: Sure, no phones after right, Yes, no phones. 808 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: In you can't be on your phone after eight. I 809 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: feel like we have been sticking to that. I'm usually 810 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 1: sleep by eight. 811 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 4: Well, it's not that. 812 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,720 Speaker 3: If you can't sleep, you get your kindle. So George 813 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 3: will get her kindle and kindle it up and bring 814 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 3: herself to sleep, which generally helps kindle. 815 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. 816 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, like she'll have the full mask, the ear flugs, 817 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 3: like eight o'clock, I'll just get up my phone. 818 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 4: I'll just go to sleep within five minutes. 819 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 820 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 2: And what time do you both wake up in the morning. 821 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 4: It's either fourt thirty or it's five. 822 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're always up by like four thirty five, 823 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: and Tim will either go to gym or do some 824 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: core stuff just at the house. 825 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, till he wakes up at six thirty, and then 826 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 4: it's game on. 827 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: We just like we've always been people who go to 828 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: bed early. 829 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then get up early because obviously from obviously 830 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 3: like our work and my past work. 831 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, when t needs to be a trading up early. 832 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 3: So It's just like comes pretty naturally to me, whereas 833 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,439 Speaker 3: like getting up at seven is like we just never. 834 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 4: I don't think I could never get up at seven. 835 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,479 Speaker 4: We didn't. 836 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 1: Me and Tim were laughing the other day because when 837 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: I was pregnant with Ivy, I was so tiring in 838 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: the first twenty weeks of the pregnancy, and I remember 839 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: I was literally sleeping until seven am, like wouldn't get 840 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 1: up till seven, had to have alarm, and that was 841 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: so unheard of. But the funniest part was Tim was 842 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,959 Speaker 1: also sleeping until seven, and it's like he was going 843 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: through his own pregnancy. Was literally would like wake up 844 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: the same time. 845 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 4: I was waking up. 846 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 2: Were you going to bed later? No? 847 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: No early? 848 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 2: You were having eleven hours sleep. 849 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: Tim's are taurusts though, so you can just sleep and 850 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: sleep and sleep. That's what I mean. For you to 851 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: get up, Earli, it's like you're. 852 00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 2: Projector to Aren't you need snaps? 853 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 4: Loves the naps? 854 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 2: Okay, next question, how have you navigated having different parenting 855 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 2: styles and what were the biggest differences you found in 856 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 2: your parenting styles. 857 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: Well, I would say we don't like we're on the 858 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 1: same page because we had the discussion of not wanting 859 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: to really parent how we got parented, not because it 860 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: was like quote unquote bad, but just being like, we 861 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: would love to have some education around parenting, especially like 862 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 1: we are not physically punishing IVY, and that was something 863 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: we both experienced so having tools around it because we 864 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: didn't have any tools around it. So we did an 865 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: aware of Parenting course, which I've spoken about on the 866 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: Potty by Marion Rose. And so I feel like we're 867 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 1: very much on the same side with parenting, and I 868 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: think moving forward, wouldn't it just be anything that comes up, 869 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,800 Speaker 1: we just have a conversation about it. 870 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 2: And do you have any tips on maybe someone who's 871 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 2: noticed now that their partner maybe has a slightly different 872 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 2: parenting style how to bring up that conversation. 873 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 4: I guess you're gonna sort of have that have that 874 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 4: talk with them. 875 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's about you know, talking to them 876 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: about how you feel and if you have different opinions, 877 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: both coming to the conversation with a lot of respect 878 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: for having different opinions and like knowing you can have 879 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: different opinions, but knowing where that came from, because it's like, 880 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, if you want to do things differently and 881 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: your partner doesn't want to and you're like a bit 882 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: why and their only response is well, I got parented 883 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: this way, and I'm fine be like, well, could you know, 884 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,879 Speaker 1: could we just try it a different way, or could 885 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: we both do this thing together, or you know, like 886 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: I just opening up that conversation like also mean tim experts, 887 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: So if you can ask us. 888 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 3: I think it comes down to you, like, yeah, setting 889 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,439 Speaker 3: that time aside when it's just you guys and just 890 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 3: having that chat and then obviously putting all the emotions 891 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 3: out on the table, but like yeah, having your partner 892 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 3: obviously give you that time and hold that space to 893 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 3: you so you can get those emotions and thoughts out 894 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 3: and then like that other partner, I just have a 895 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 3: conversation and actually listening about it just like being like oh, 896 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 3: like whatever. 897 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to another episode of 898 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 1: the Rise and Conquer podcast. 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