1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf. Join the conversation with Katie Wolf. 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: You are our Eyes and Ears in the Territory Mixed 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: one oh four point nine. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: It's just on twenty minutes after ten o'clock. Now, there 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: has been so much discussion about crime, not only in 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: recent months but on this show. You'd have to say 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: for the last couple of years, the community has been 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: screaming out for change, and on the face of it, 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 2: it does seem as though the government has really, I 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: think you'd have to say, been embarrassed into listening, you know, 11 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: following on from that terrible vision that was on a 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: Current Affair last week. Now, if you missed the police 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: Minister Nicole Madison on the show earlier this morning, you 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: can hear that interview in full online, but take a 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: listen to a small part of that interview. This week 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: in Alice, more police have had to be sent down. 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: There was more horrible assaults on innocent people. Do you 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: con see that you've let territorians down in this space? 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 3: Well, this was there's I think you saw the Assistant 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: commissioner stay very random event. We had four people, three 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: of them adults, one of seventeen year old is what 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: I understand that went and assaulted about three or four 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: different groups on Saturday night. That behavior is completely unacceptable. 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: Why has it taken a national disgrace for our government 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: to actually have some gumption to do something here? 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 3: Oh rubbish, Katie, there was already a whole bunch of 27 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: work that was happening. 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: Honestly, the community has been screaming out for such a 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: long time. I think the community has been screaming out 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: for such a long time. I just cannot understand why 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: it's taken so long to change something. 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 4: Katie. 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: There has been a huge raft work over the last 34 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: four years. 35 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: So that is just a small expert of what the 36 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: minister had to say this morning. Now, joining us live 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: on the line is the mayor of Alice Springs, Damien Ryan. 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: Good morning, Damien, Good morning, Katy mate. How are you 39 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: guys feeling this morning. We know that the government's obviously 40 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: announced a raft of changes. 41 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: Does it go far enough? 42 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 4: I think, Look, any changes that are suggested, of course, 43 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 4: will be welcome by the community. But I go back 44 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: to my call out from two weeks ago. I think 45 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 4: one of the major issues is we don't have We've 46 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 4: never had done a community Safety Order. Now the Chiefment 47 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 4: has to blocked me on this every day last week 48 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: in the day and press, in the papers and so forth. 49 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 4: I'm worried that he's concerned something. You'll come out of it, 50 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 4: I say, employee of pre eminent Territory and go out 51 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 4: and do an audit of all the services in Central 52 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: Australia so as we understand who's doing what. I'm not 53 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 4: complaining against what operations are doing. I'm complaining that we 54 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 4: don't know as a community what he's been done. Now 55 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: we've got some new points raised this morning, and I 56 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 4: do think your interview is correct. Where Governor has been 57 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 4: embarrassed into doing is when your three local MLAs have 58 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 4: been calling for this since Parliament sat in September or 59 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: started in September last year. The different organizations in our 60 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 4: queen have been calling out for it. Only last week 61 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 4: one hundred Tourism operated at a general meeting. They are furious. 62 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 4: They want something done, and you know we're starting to 63 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 4: see something. But I'll go back to my original request. 64 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: Please Chief Minister, let's find out what every silo is doing. 65 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 4: Let's have an independent community safety order, just to pacify 66 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: the members of our community. Who are very concerned about 67 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 4: their safety. Look at the instance last Saturday night. Don't 68 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: tell me it's okay because they were one offs. This 69 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: is just not acceptable, Damien. 70 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: Are these situations that are unfolding one offs? 71 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,559 Speaker 1: As the minister keeps saying. 72 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 4: I don't think they should be rated on a number. 73 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 4: That's why I say, what about our safety? Yeah? What 74 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 4: about everybody in the community. I don't care what age, 75 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: but there is an understanding that some people have taken 76 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: over the town after dark, so we need to do 77 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: something about it. We can only do that with legislation 78 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: from the Northern Territory government. We can only do that 79 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 4: if we sit down and find out exactly what all 80 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 4: those parts are. 81 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: Well, and we've got a situation now. 82 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: We had the Lord Mayor of Darwin combat Scalis on 83 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: the show this morning. 84 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: We're speaking to you. 85 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: The Mayor of Man and Greeta is in the Northern 86 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: Territory News today. As I understand it, the mayor of 87 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: Tenant Creek has also called out, you know, for. 88 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: Help in this space. 89 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 2: We've got a real issue here and I will give 90 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: credit where it's due. The government does seem to be 91 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: listening now, but these changes aren't going to come into 92 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: play that they're talking about these legislative changes until May. 93 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: It's going to go into Parliament and. 94 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 4: Without any scrutiny because of the way that Parliament's changed 95 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: and everything else. Look, the Lord Mayor last week, you know, 96 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 4: his opinion piece was quite correct and he mentions that, 97 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: you know, some months ago the Chief Minister had the 98 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 4: audascity to send a letter out and publicly say that, 99 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: you know, the Council's responsibility. That's what the Lord Mayor's 100 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: up in arms about. That's what the Mayor of the 101 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: Bastery's up in arms about. Chief Minister, do your job. 102 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: I mean, are we all just piling on here? Do 103 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: you reckon? Damien? Could we be you know, being a 104 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: bit more constructive about this. I know that you guys 105 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: are trying. 106 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: Well. I will go back to the original part. The 107 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 4: Chief Minister has failed to meet with our counsel. So 108 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 4: it was a comment last night in our council forums. 109 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: He you know, through another spokesperson said last week he 110 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: is looking to come to Alice Springs. But my counsel 111 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 4: would like to sit down with the Chief Minister and 112 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: discuss the whole last of things. Let's not hold our 113 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 4: town to ransom over his location or his selection for 114 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 4: the National Average and Art Gallery. Let's take into account 115 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: we've probably missed a boat on all of the half 116 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 4: priced airfares because of the story last week. This shouldn't 117 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 4: have happened. I heard the Chief Minister in the last 118 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 4: election round talk about being tougher on crime, and then 119 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 4: that was forgotten u being reelected. 120 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: It's such you know. 121 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: For me, I've found the whole situation so disappointing because 122 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: I think to myself, you know, I don't make up 123 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: these issues with crime. 124 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: I've said it on air over and over again. 125 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: I have hardly been impacted by crime myself as an individual. 126 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: But you know, in my job here on the radio station, I. 127 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: Get called about this on numerous occasions every single day. 128 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: The community is crying out for help, you know, and 129 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: they've been crying out for such a long period of time. 130 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: Now they're waiting until May obviously for this legislation to change. 131 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: And as you've just pointed out, you know it's without 132 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: screen Riutney as well. 133 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: So is it going to be exactly what we need. 134 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 4: In my town? Two nights ago, I get an email 135 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: from a long term resident on the east side. Five 136 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: people in the house wake up in the morning, a 137 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: whole lot of things are stolen from beside their bedheads 138 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: as well, So they go to the CCTV in the house. 139 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: Here free youths, one standing out guard on the street, 140 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: two of them with their faces covered in T shirts. 141 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 4: Rent sapping in a house with five feeople asleep. What 142 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 4: happens if somebody wakes up? Then yesterday I get a 143 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: call from another person who's had a whole of solar 144 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 4: panels just smashed. Wanton vandalism, you know this is. And 145 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 4: then you've got solar panels smashed on the reptile center 146 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: and I've heard them on radio this morning. Fact the 147 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 4: twenty thousand dollars repair bill. 148 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. 149 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: It's actually, you know it's and it's really upsetting for 150 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: every day Torrians who are being impacted by this. And 151 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: we all understand it's a complex issue, but you know, 152 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: something's got to change, and it's got to change immediately. 153 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 4: I'd rather be doing the work of local government instead 154 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: of going on about this week in week out. So 155 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 4: we're going to have some new answers go to Parliament. 156 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: No scrutiny I go back to where I started this conversation. 157 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: Put somebody out their chief minister who can actually compile this, 158 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 4: can can scrutiny, can scrutinize what the community is saying 159 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: is happening. 160 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: Well, a mayor of Alice Springs, Damian Ryan, we are 161 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 2: going to have to leave it there. I really appreciate 162 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: your time this morning. 163 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: Mate. 164 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 2: Just very quickly, how's that. How's the rainfall in Alice. 165 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: At the moment. 166 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: Fantastic, Absolutely fantastic. There's little creeks running, there's bees are 167 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 4: out buzzing around flowers. It's great and it was such 168 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 4: soaking rain. It wasn't destructive. Rame. We were very very lucky. 169 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: Well, I'm pleased to hear that there's a bit of 170 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: positive news in that space. Damian Ryan, good to speak 171 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: with you this morning. I appreciate it. 172 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 4: Thanks Katie, thank you. 173 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: And well, I mean, there you have it. 174 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: That's the mayor of Alice Springs, obviously talking about the 175 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 2: issues that they have got in Alice. We spoke to 176 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: the Lord Mayor of Darwin convat Scalis just a few 177 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: moments ago. I'm just going to take a very quick 178 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: look in the Northern Territory News right now where we 179 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: also have Man and Greta leaders. They're pleading for a 180 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 2: greater police presence in the community to overcome and out 181 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: of control youth crime crisis. The West Arna Mayor Matthew 182 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: Ryan has said that Man and Greta was at breaking 183 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 2: point with residents now leaving town due to that crime. 184 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: You know, look, I really. 185 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: Want to be positive about the situation now with the 186 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: government coming out this morning and making these changes saying 187 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: that they're going to take these changes to Parliament and 188 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: that it's going to go through in May. 189 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it cannot come soon enough. 190 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: It cannot come soon enough that we see some change 191 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: in this space. 192 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: We have been banging on about it for 193 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: Such a long period of time and you know, we 194 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: need to see this change for the community.