1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me Lolaberry, author, nutritionist, 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: and yoga teacher, join me as we get to know 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lolaberry. Hello, 5 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: it's Lols here coming to you live from Talks. It's 6 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: a gloomy and rainy day outside, perfect for recording podcast intros. 7 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: We are officially halfway through lockdown mark three for any 8 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: Victorians listening to this, Whoop, We're halfway there. Today's guest 9 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: she is inspiring. She is a dreamer. 10 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: She is a friend of mine. 11 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: Pippy this is one of those people that just makes 12 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: her dreams come true. She's a director and author, executive producer. 13 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: Pippy lives part in La part In Sydney. She is 14 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: such a go getter. She's had two bambinos who are 15 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: kind of like miracle babies. You get to hear all 16 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: about her journey with them. 17 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:23,919 Speaker 2: Trigger warning. 18 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: She does talk about losing babies and it's a very 19 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: dark part of her life, but she's so passionate about 20 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: sharing it in order to help other women who have 21 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: gone through similar kinds of losses. She is also on 22 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: a reality TV show that I love called Very Cavalieri 23 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: and her two bambinos have been on the global hit 24 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: show Modern Family, and I ask about all the behind 25 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: the scenes of that. So this is for any creative 26 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: that dares to dream enjoy My friend Pippy. Okay, so 27 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: we are old friends. I'm going to like jump straight in. 28 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: This is Peppy Pomeran's best name. Ember By the way, 29 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: I know that he gets told that all the time. 30 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: We've been mates for yonks How long. 31 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,279 Speaker 3: I don't know now, it's got to be over five. 32 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: Years, definitely, because I lived I lived in I moved 33 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: to Sydney when I was twenty seven, and I feel 34 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: like we we caught it. We met first in Fox. 35 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: Studios, I think, yeah, And I'm thirty four now, so 36 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: that I have to be yeah, oh yeah, that's so good. 37 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: Always need an anniversary a ten year Hey, babe. 38 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: They'll get it. We'll get it. 39 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: So for people that don't know Pippy, but I reckon, 40 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: a lot of listeners will know you because of the 41 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: wonderful Very Cavaliery TV show that you are a wonderful 42 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: star on. But you run and own your own production company. 43 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: You're executive producer you're a director, you're an author, you're 44 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: a dream, you're a mama bear to two, well to twins? 45 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: How old? How old? One hundred Andy? 46 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: Now they're just about to become eighteen months? 47 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, crazy Pippy, that's that bananas. 48 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 3: Makes me tear up as I fall asleep on the desk. 49 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is the thing. 50 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: And I'm so excited to chat to you about juggling 51 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: being like a boss babe, career, get go, get up, 52 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: but also. 53 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: Having these twins. 54 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like you need like eight limbs 55 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: to be able to hold them all at once and 56 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: be typing email. 57 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: It's so funny. I have Luckhme on my desk at 58 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: all times, the Golddess of as you would know. And 59 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: she's just the multitask of the ultimate multitasker. 60 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: And she's gonna how many arms does she have? 61 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: She's got eight. So it's really that you just said that. 62 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: So I love that you just said that. You speaking 63 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: my language, my friends, Yeah, big time, big I'm actually 64 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: I had my therapist yesterday and we went straight into 65 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: like Indian Hindu gods straight away, and I was like, 66 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: love it, love it. 67 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: But you can almost bring everything back to their Really. 68 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: Now I want to talk to you because let's start 69 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: with Korea, because. 70 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: You've got such an incredible career. You are self made. 71 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: You are a dreamer. 72 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: But the difference is you can be a dreamer, but 73 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: you're a dreamer that just has so much drive and determination. 74 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: And so you grew up in Sids Yep, Sydney. Are 75 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,239 Speaker 1: you a red Oa girl as well? 76 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: No, I'm a Queenwood girl. 77 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: So in Sydney that's part of the big awesome schools, 78 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: right like the big Kahoonas. 79 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: Yes it was well yes and no, so yes it 80 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: falls under that. But we did like to we weren't 81 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: really very studious girls. We're a little naughty queen with 82 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: girls and back at a little whild back in the day. 83 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: I'm not going to speak for Queenwood now, but back 84 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: in the day we're a little naughty. Let's just be honest. 85 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: School would sort of we just happened to be at school. 86 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 3: We're more being social making friends, you know, one long 87 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: summer camp. I say, is. 88 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: It true that for people's birthdays you'd make them videos? 89 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: For like a birthday video? 90 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: How did you find that? 91 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: A deep dive? 92 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: Okay, wholl the you're impressive. I used to make VHS 93 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: movies with a hand caught cam quarter. My parents traveled 94 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: a lot, and I would always we would always get 95 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: sort of the cabbage patch doll sheets before they came out. 96 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: I'm really telling my age, and we would have a 97 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: lot of the stuff before, you know, the American stuff before. 98 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: And I had the cam quarter and I used to 99 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: got the local seven eleven's and pretend I was there 100 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: making a slurpy and doing like a selfie videos and 101 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 3: like you know, always yes, so everyone head. 102 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: Ahead of a time media back then, Oh my god, say. 103 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: With me though, I'm actually glad that was no social media. 104 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: Same with me though, like even someone's I was talking 105 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: to someone about when I started Morning TV and there 106 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: was only my Space pip Oh yeah, no Facebook, Yeah, no, 107 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: no instant, no Twitter. Okay, So your dream from pretty 108 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: early on was film. 109 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, definitely, I mean it was. It was sort 110 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 3: of I knew what I wanted to do, I didn't 111 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 3: know how to make a career of it, and because 112 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: nobody in my family it was from the business, so 113 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: I sort of I would say to my parents, oh, 114 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: you know, I want to be a filmmaker and They 115 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: just couldn't get their heads around it. They were like, no, 116 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 3: but you have to have a teacup to go sell something, 117 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: or you have to go and be a lawyer or 118 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: or you know. It was one of those sort of things. 119 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 3: So I it was a hard sell. And when I graduate, 120 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: did you want me to launch into it? 121 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, because didn't you do Didn't they encourage you to 122 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: go more down the graphic design. 123 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was sort of a career. But they 124 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 3: encouraged me to go down that route because I didn't 125 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: get into I didn't do very well in my HCTCH, 126 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: I didn't do very well in my final exams. I 127 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: didn't do so badly that I didn't get into anywhere, 128 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: but I didn't get I didn't get into where I 129 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: wanted to go, and that was film school. 130 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: So that would also be you've got a creative mind 131 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: as opposed to necessarily like old school academic minds. 132 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: Totally different parts of the brain totally. 133 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: I think I might have said at school, I don't 134 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: know why I have to do math, because I'll have 135 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: someone to do it for me out. So I had 136 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: this interview with this Stralian film school and I was 137 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: told that I needed more experience in life in sort 138 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: of world, sort of. After I'd done my graphic design, 139 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: I went and interviewed with Australian Film School because I 140 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: really didn't have any life experience except for sort of 141 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: traveling with my parents. So that's when I decided to 142 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: go and live in England. 143 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, how was that? You did two years in England? 144 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? I did. It was amazing. It was hard, it 145 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: was amazing. I traveled a lot I did. It was 146 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: just that perfect sort of you know, eating bread and cheese, 147 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 3: you you know, in the Greek Islands and I did 148 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: you know that I did that. I was known as 149 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: a Chanel backpacker. I took a hair straightener in my backpack, 150 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 3: you know, like in my pack, one of those things. 151 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, and we just I just sort of traveled around. 152 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 3: And a couple of years later, during that time, Mom 153 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: and dad had moved to LA for business. And I 154 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: picked up the phone and said, hey, I know what 155 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 3: I want to do, still want to be a filmmaker. 156 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: And I think Mom hung up on me and took 157 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: two weeks to call me back. 158 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: And then then you packed up, didn't you. 159 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I went over from from England, went to La. 160 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 3: So yeah, so my journey, I didn't come back to Australia. 161 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: I kept on going. So that's where it all started. 162 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: So amazing, and so UCS is that right now us. 163 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 3: I had to go to a community college to get yep, 164 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: my to get the grades and the sort of the 165 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: credits they have there up and that's where at Santa 166 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: Monica College, I'm proud to say I started their cinema club, 167 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: which is still running. 168 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 2: Amazing, it is still running. 169 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 3: So I started the cinema club there and I went 170 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: to SMSC Santa Monica College and then that's when I 171 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 3: got the transfer credits to go and I got into 172 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: USC Film. 173 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: School and that's a pretty illustrious film school, right. 174 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. There was fifty of us in the program. 175 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: I think I was one of one of five women 176 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: that were yeah, or boys or guys boys, guys, it 177 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: was guys. I was like Sandy from Greece to the 178 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: friendly OTAs. I was like, yeah, you can carry my 179 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: book back. 180 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: I love it, I love it, I love it and 181 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: you got so how long was that course? 182 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 3: So it was four years? 183 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: And then you started working pretty quickly, didn't you. 184 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. It was you know, USC was the 185 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: turning point for me, you know, out of my failures 186 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: of school. Yeah, working really hard to going to community college, 187 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: stucking that up and making the most of it and 188 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: loving it and getting into you know, an Ivy League 189 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: school really validated my career choice. And it would have 190 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 3: never happened if I hadn't. You know, we're all right 191 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: here right now because of what we've done, right, So 192 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 3: totally that would have never happened for me if I 193 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 3: hadn't you. 194 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: Know, screwed up on that other Oh, totally. I think 195 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: was the coolest thing. Yeah, yeah, So was the first 196 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: gig with the Style Network. Is that right? 197 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? It was with E and Style Network, correct. 198 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: And it was called You're Invited. Yeah, so tell me 199 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: about it was. 200 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 3: It was so much fun. I worked my way up. 201 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: I was a supervisor. I was actually associate producer. Then 202 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: I quickly went into have been a supervising producer. And 203 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: then I made myself a job as director. I convinced 204 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 3: them that they only made as a director. So that 205 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 3: was when I sort of jump on that and it 206 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: was it was we did a show a week. I 207 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: was on set all the time. I think we did. 208 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: I want to say thirty four or maybe forty two episodes, 209 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: but it was, it was. It was a good solid 210 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: couple of years and I met the top top sort 211 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: of party planners. I met this it was, But what 212 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: it was was more hours on set, you know, And 213 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 3: and I got to make my mistakes on set, and 214 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 3: I worked with an amazing team and we just became 215 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 3: a little family. And it's where I met one of 216 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: my best friends still to this day, miss Keisha Whittaker, 217 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 3: which you know she's married to or was married to, Forrest, 218 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 3: And we had you know, we formed a very tight 219 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: friendship on that show. Because when you're in the trenches 220 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: with hot glue guns, you know, where anything can happened. 221 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: Is like a film in la as glamorous as from 222 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: the outside, you know, Hollywood is the holy grail of 223 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: you know film TV? 224 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: Is it? 225 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: Is it as magical as it seems from the outside 226 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: looking in? 227 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: Look I no, and yes, yes, yes, because you're doing 228 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: what you love. No, because you're doing it like you're 229 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: you are doing everything. I mean, Look, I started doing 230 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 3: lifestyle and reality really and early on, like it was 231 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: really early on, so we sort of really formed what 232 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 3: was happening, so that was exciting. Yeah, that was really exciting. 233 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: Was it glamorous? No? Was it fucking phenomenally fun? Yes? 234 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: Can we do anything? Yeah, we got the freedom to 235 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: do anything. So that was really fun. 236 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: Because then you, from what I can what I've read 237 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: about you, is then basically worked with this kind of 238 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: like EP director kind of role both and you had 239 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: your own company, but both in America and in Australia. 240 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I did. I did a lot of you know, 241 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: a lot of my climbing up the ladder in the US. 242 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: So I always say I was I was born down here, 243 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: you know, secret I was actually born in New Zealand. 244 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: So the sign you this signew so you know, proudly, 245 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: you know, proudly quietly in New Zealand. But I always 246 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: say I'm from Australia, but I grew up in LA 247 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: because I truly believe the form formidable years of my life, 248 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: we're in my twenties and really coming you know, coming 249 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: up from film school and through that, through that e 250 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: entertainment pro sort of family. I mean, we did a 251 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: lot of shows, you know, and and that it was 252 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 3: the funnest time ever. And then I decided that it 253 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: was time to go back to Australia and just say 254 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: hi to the uzzies. I hadn't been there for a 255 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: long time. I don't think I came home for thirteen 256 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: years or maybe yeah, ten years. It was. It was 257 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: a long time, and it was like being in a 258 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: foreign country. 259 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, having hung out with you in Australia in Sydney 260 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: and having come out with you in La. 261 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: To me, your home is La, Yeah, I feel like 262 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: that's where your heart is in so many hours. 263 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that'site so hard at the moment, isn't it, 264 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 3: But that you'll get to that. But yeah, my heart 265 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: I grew up in La. I'm an allie girl. You 266 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: know that happens to be from Australia. 267 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 268 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: I did everything asked backward souls. You know that about me? 269 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: I might, Yeah, it's everything's not non conventional with me. 270 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: So so can I ask how the Fashion Bloggers series 271 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: came about as well? 272 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, fashion Bloggers. Fashion Bloggers was an idea looks 273 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: as the gram was coming through and I was feeling like, 274 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 3: you know, you want to get in the forefront of 275 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: telling stories right and totally it was one of those 276 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: things that you I didn't know anything about it, so 277 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: I just sort of reached out to a couple of 278 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 3: girls that I really liked and met with their agents 279 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: and then met with them and it sort of developed 280 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: from there and I just was a sort of a 281 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: no brainer. The hardest part was getting someone to buy it. 282 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I have been through that process before 283 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: as well. 284 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really really hard. I mean, gosh, we all 285 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: had so many great ideas, but how to make money 286 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: from them and get someone to also agree to it 287 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 3: is another thing. But I got the car we you know, 288 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 3: I got the cast together and had the estella cast, 289 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 3: had a lot of support, and got e bought it. 290 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: So it was such a fun show to watch and 291 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: to consume as well, Like it made it kind of 292 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: like made me fall in love with these fashion bloggers 293 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: from a different lens. 294 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 3: It made me feel connected in this new world as well. 295 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: So I feel like I learned so much from each 296 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 3: and every one of the girls, including all we had 297 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 3: so many amazing guests, I mean, and getting the news 298 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 3: about you know, these magazines that have gone under. You know, 299 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: it's just so sad because we had so many fabulous, 300 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 3: fabulous editors. We also had amazing celebrities. We even had 301 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: Kim kardash In. 302 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: That's right, I remember. 303 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: I remember, and you traveled all over the world as 304 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: well in You like you're filmed everywhere and just for 305 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: people listening if they don't know about the magazines in Australia, 306 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: eight magazines as of yesterday have gone under totally. 307 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 3: So heartbreaking, honestly, and. 308 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 2: That's people's career and livelihood and. 309 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 3: Also the way in which we consume the world. It 310 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: consume fashion and it's not holding a magazine anymore. 311 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: I don't know, It's just it's just something so so 312 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: much right now. 313 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 3: I'm like, sort of I'm like, come on, guys, what's next. 314 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: I need to buy my magazine, Like I know, I 315 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: do quietly with my you know, with sol and you know, 316 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: I don't know, I just there's. 317 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: Something it's almost like a form of self care because 318 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: it's so inspiring as a visual person, but then it 319 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: feels like your little secret time to yourself off it 320 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: feels very intimate and personal and like a way of 321 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: giving back to yourself. 322 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 3: And that's off the screens too totally, you know. You know, 323 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just think it's really a really 324 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 3: big mistake. It's really do you know. 325 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 2: What's been so amazing to research you. Like, through the 326 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: process of. 327 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: Researching you, you create all these moments and content like these, 328 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: like trailers and almost short films, and you've done a 329 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: lot for Uncommon James. Yeah, the little James Christmas kind 330 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: of video with the snow falling. 331 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: I was like, Pitt would have been in heaven doing this. 332 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 3: I shot that out of my iPhone. No really, yeah. 333 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: Because I saw the behind the scenes video of it. 334 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 2: I think I saw it behind that. Maybe there was 335 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 2: a clip because it was also on the show, was it? 336 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 337 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 2: And then the final product is on your YouTube page. 338 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: It's incredible, but also everything that you've kind of touched 339 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: and it's got this almost like the way that you 340 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: describe a magazine that it give something back to you, 341 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: and it's I think the stuff that you create does 342 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: that as well, in a obviously more digital way because 343 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: of YouTube and whatnot. 344 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 3: That is the biggest compliment, because I wanted I want 345 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: every one of my pieces to be like a glossy magazine. 346 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 3: That's my brief in our company, you know what I mean. 347 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 3: So I can. 348 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: Totally see that, and I guess I love every time 349 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: you bring out a new Uncommon James kind of like 350 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: trailer because there's like the full like addition because I'm 351 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: guessing all this means there's all new jewelry coming out 352 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: that needs to be promoted and so and you've. 353 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: Just got this. You're really great. 354 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 1: I feel at kind of like meshing in artistic but 355 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: then hitting the like the masses and the pop as well. 356 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: So it becomes like an ad campaign, but it feels 357 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: like a piece of art. 358 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: Thank you. 359 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: So hopefully that's part of the brief. 360 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: Well, no, it is, honestly it is. It's telling a story. 361 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: You know. The Fall one was done in Nashville. Christen's 362 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 3: what we wanted to feel like, get her audience to 363 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: know that the gone Common James was born in Nashville, 364 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 3: So we went to Nashville and that was sort of 365 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 3: really important to her and to me when we were 366 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 3: talking about how to do this, and then sort of 367 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: going to New York and being the city girl and 368 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: that goes from day to night to business meeting and 369 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: the ultimate boss babe, where is she going to be 370 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: in New York? 371 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: That was so fun to watch the New York one. 372 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: It made me wish to do We spoke on the 373 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: phone Pip and I right before this interview, and I 374 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, you're making me miss America so much. 375 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 3: Gosh, I mean New York. We did that. I did 376 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: that when the Twins or that's you know they were 377 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: they were were they first time away from the Twins 378 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 3: doing that video for two days? 379 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 2: Wow? Okay, So this is where I do want to go. 380 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 2: Only for question can you talk? 381 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: Can you share a little bit about being on her show? 382 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: Very cavaliery. 383 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: For those who have watched it, you know, I like 384 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: a tequila or two. 385 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: But you also I felt like your character, well you 386 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: are your character, but you were so honest and there's 387 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: a scene where you're talking about being a mom and 388 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: you shared a bit about the struggles that you've been on. 389 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: But I feel like you shared like this pocket of 390 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: your journey so much for got shared on that show. 391 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 3: Yeah I did. I really found it was an amazing 392 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: platform and an amazing time. When Kristen said, do you 393 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: want to be do you want to come out, you 394 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: know and be on it and I'd love you to 395 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 3: speak about your journey, and you know, I trusted her, 396 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: she's an executive producer on the show. On the show, 397 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: so I was like, yeah, I have not. I actually 398 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 3: want to. I want to get my story out to 399 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 3: the world because I want to be able to support 400 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: every woman that's going through what I went through, which 401 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: was just you know, I never want actually any woman 402 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 3: to go through what I went through, but to be 403 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: able to be a sounding board and to just know that. 404 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 3: That's part of the reason why I share my story. 405 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 3: And I shared it on very cavalary. 406 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you shared this kind of like 407 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: vulnerable part of yourself, but you shone a light on 408 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: a story that's still to this day not enough lights 409 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: shone upon, you know. 410 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, are you. 411 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: Comfortable sharing a little bit about your fertility experience? 412 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: So did you start with IBF? Was that the beginning? 413 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, So my our fertility story is sort of 414 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 3: it's almost a decade when it took a lot longer 415 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 3: than we thought that was ever going to happen. You know, 416 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: I was falling pregnant but not keeping you know, not 417 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: being able to keep the you know early on you know, 418 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 3: and we call them miss you know, very early on miscarriages. 419 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 4: So we ended up doing going to IBF Australia and 420 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 4: going through rounds of IVF, and you know, I was 421 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 4: doing fashion bloggers I was. 422 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 3: I was also then went into style Squad. No, I 423 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 3: wasn't doing Scar Squad. Then I was doing fashion bloggers. 424 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: But you know, every time I would do a round 425 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,239 Speaker 3: that didn't work, I would pick myself up and then 426 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 3: go and concentrate on my career. So I was like, 427 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: you know that it wasn't I just was it was 428 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 3: a juggle and I didn't. I was like, Okay, I'll 429 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: try again in six months, okay, And then suddenly it 430 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: was three years later, and I was like, what am 431 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: I deal with? What's happening here? And I think that, 432 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 3: you know, the long on the short of it is 433 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 3: that it took way too long and we had no 434 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 3: I had no nothing wrong with me. So I decided 435 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 3: to go to you know, the Sister Clinic in San Diego, 436 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 3: because San Diego in America, everyone's extremely enthusiastic, and also 437 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: it's that we'll get you their kind of attitude that 438 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 3: I think I needed personally. Rather than you'll be Okay, 439 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: let's try again in a little bit of time, it 440 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 3: was more like, nah, let's try something else, nah, and 441 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 3: just stayed on it. It got to the point though, that 442 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: after you know, I had I had a lot of 443 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: rounds of ibre, but it was over ten. It was 444 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 3: about thirteen rounds. And it seems silly that I'm vague 445 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 3: about it, but honestly it was a lot and a 446 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 3: lot of that is just blocking. A lot of stuff 447 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: not blocked. 448 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 2: That would have been traumatic though. 449 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: I mean thirteen and you're injecting yourself on a regular basis. 450 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I was putting on you know, I 451 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 3: was carrying weight and it was just all around challenging. 452 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: But I would pick myself up again. And it got 453 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: to the point, babe that we literally were going through 454 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 3: all our embryos, and it was a point of like, 455 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: what do we do now? Because this is not working 456 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 3: and I literally cannot go through another miscarriage. I I 457 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 3: mean I was at the Writer's Festival having like I 458 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: had just gone through a miscarriage. You know, I was, 459 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 3: you know, I can pinpoint everywhere where I was at. 460 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 3: You know, It's one of those weird things, and I just, 461 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: you know, the clocks to you know, embryos are going 462 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 3: down and I've got no answers. So we decided to 463 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: go down the route of a surrogate. 464 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: And that was all because of it that was also America, 465 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: while you're in America. 466 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, correct, And it was because there was no answers. 467 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: That's why it was our sort of it was really 468 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 3: our last resort. And I had I'd been able to 469 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 3: produce everything else in my life, Why the hell was 470 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 3: I not being able to produce a baby. It was 471 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: a very challenging thing for me, because everything I put 472 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: my mind to, I can usually at some point get to. 473 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 3: So we decided to go down the route of a surrogate, 474 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: and we were matched pretty quickly. I assume it's a 475 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 3: lot like online dating. 476 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: I never got to Oh, you missed nothing, don't worry. 477 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 3: I assume. And we met a beautiful surrogate, and and 478 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 3: we got pregnant straight away on the first go, and 479 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: all our dreams were coming true, and we had Christmas 480 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 3: thinking was, yeah, it was all our dreams to come true. 481 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 3: I sent a baby announcement on Thanksgiving to everyone and 482 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 3: said that we were a double trouble. You received one. 483 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: And then I was. 484 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: With you in La. 485 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 1: It was for some of that, because I remember we 486 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: both went and had candle healings together. 487 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: Do you remember you took me to that healing place? 488 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 3: Remember? 489 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: And I remember in this style squad. 490 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: I did an episode with you and you were going 491 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: through IVF them that would have been beforehand. 492 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: It's right, yeah, that's right. 493 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: It's like it's like a trauma. There is a trauma. 494 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 3: But yeah, honestly, it's it's truly, it's it's truly, that's right. 495 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: And as it was flooding back to me as you 496 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: were sharing all of that. But La, especially because you've 497 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: got your home. 498 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: Remember you got the home and you had the room 499 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: that you were setting up for the babes, do you remember, Yeah, yeah, 500 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: and I think I gave you a crystal or something 501 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: for both of them. 502 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 3: You did, you did? You did well. Well, I've still 503 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 3: got that. I've got so many beautiful crystals. I've got 504 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: a crystal collection from you. But yeah, So we I 505 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: had Christmas New Year in Sydney and then I was got. 506 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: I went back and I wrote in my diary actually 507 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 3: that this is the last time that I was getting 508 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 3: on and playing without the babies, and I was shooting. 509 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 3: I shot another Christian video in Mawibu and the next 510 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: day I was having I was going to have coffee 511 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: with Kristen and I got a call from Sarrogate and 512 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: she said, something's wrong. I'm got massive cramps. I'm going 513 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 3: to the hospital. And I was like, okay, well i'll 514 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 3: meet you down there. And I got an uber and 515 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 3: thank god Mom was with me, and I literally walked 516 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 3: into a movie that I didn't want to be in 517 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: and there were doctors everywhere and people were talking at me, 518 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: and my beautiful surrogate was lying there looking. 519 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: Just it's just how far along was she? 520 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: So we were twenty two weeks and six days and 521 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 3: I I couldn't believe that I was making decisions. 522 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: Josh was not with her. Joshua was in Sydney. That 523 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: would have been so confronting. 524 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 3: And he was asleep, so he didn't even know what 525 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: was going on, and I had to call him and 526 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: it was it was weird. He sort of had woken 527 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 3: up similar time energy wise, and I had to tell 528 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 3: him that things weren't going very well. He then got 529 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 3: a flight and as the doors were closing, she was 530 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 3: going into labor, and I didn't have the heart to 531 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 3: tell him that. 532 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 5: So we actually delivered Parker and Ellie Parker can first 533 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 5: fashionately like delivered, and he was alive for fifty six 534 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 5: minutes and died on my chest and then the nurses 535 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 5: all left and left me with him, and then we 536 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 5: had to deliver Allie. 537 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 3: And honestly, it is the most heartbreaking thing I've ever 538 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 3: had to keep. 539 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: No one should have to go through that, nobody. 540 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they say the worst thing as apparently she was 541 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,239 Speaker 1: to outlive your child and you've done that. 542 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, they were just they were just little dolls. 543 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: They were little, fully formed little dolls. And I know 544 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 3: now where I'm meant to be, but it was just, oh, 545 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 3: it was just I don't know. 546 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: I don't know how you got through that. I remember 547 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 2: seeing you in Sydney. 548 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: Down the line, quite down the line after you've been 549 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: through that, and I just thought, this is the probably 550 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: the worst thing anyone could go through in their life. 551 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just after so many years of heartbreak, and 552 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 3: you know, we just we had them, you know, we 553 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: had our babies. So it didn't take me very low. 554 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: Please do not. 555 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 3: They're everywhere, The angels are everywhere. 556 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 2: Did you get a jumping head? 557 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: You've got a water color done that sits with your bubbs, now, 558 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: is that right? 559 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 560 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 3: I did, I did, I did. They're just yeah, and 561 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 3: they look over Hunter and Andy and they look over 562 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 3: us and I see, you know, eleven eleven everywhere. I 563 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 3: can't even tell you how many rainbows I see. It's 564 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: just insane, but they they are around. But yeah, it's 565 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 3: just it's just yeah, it was heartbreaking. But that was 566 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 3: in January, January eleventh, and then my best one of 567 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 3: my best friends, Louise, her daughter was born on the 568 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 3: same day, and so we're really connected in that she's 569 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 3: actually one of the godmothers to the twins now. But 570 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 3: lou you know, it's just this, there were just it's 571 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 3: all these different connections that keep me connected, and that's 572 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 3: connected to park Ronelly. But it was very I allowed 573 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 3: myself for a couple of months and a couple of 574 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 3: really dark months. But then it was sort of this 575 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: light bulb switched on and I realized, you know, we 576 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 3: had four more embryos, and I thought, oh gosh, I can't. 577 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 3: I cannot be a depressed person. I cannot let their 578 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 3: legacy be this because this and where I was was 579 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 3: so sad and so dark, not in anything dark dark, 580 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 3: and I'm not a dark energy person as you can 581 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 3: imagine so much, and it wasn't healthy for Joshie and 582 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 3: I and it wasn't healthy for anything, and it was like, 583 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 3: I just didn't want to be that person. I really didn't. 584 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 3: And so I reached out to our agency and she said, 585 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 3: she was like, oh, I'm so glad you reached out. 586 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 3: I wanted to reach out to you, you know, and 587 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 3: ask you if you wanted to go again. She was like, 588 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 3: I would carry a baby for you if I could. 589 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 3: But she found this beautiful, beautiful first time surrogate, and 590 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 3: I was I went down to Laguna Beach and I 591 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 3: met with her, and I loved her. She was so 592 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 3: she is so happy and positive and oh. And she 593 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 3: was like, we're going to get a baby for you. 594 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 3: We're going to get a baby for you. And I 595 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: was like, oh. So we did a transfer and the 596 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 3: transfer we found out that we weren't pregnant. The night 597 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 3: before we did a dinner for Month's stake for the 598 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 3: Parker and Allie, and it was like getting kicked in 599 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 3: the bowl, in the nuts, in the gut, in the 600 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 3: head in that like literally, and I went all through 601 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,959 Speaker 3: and Joshi, actually my husband, said I don't know if 602 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 3: we can do this and I was like if, And honestly, 603 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 3: I don't like our surrogate was like, I want to 604 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 3: go again straight away, and the doctors were like, come on, 605 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: and our team was so amazing. So basically we went 606 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 3: again straight away and we put two in because it 607 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 3: was probability. We had four. We had three goes with 608 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 3: our surrogon. We had three more embryos, so we were like, 609 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: let's put two in and then we have one more 610 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 3: go and we got pregnant. How it was insane. So 611 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 3: timeline wise, we celebrated Parker and Ellie's anniversary on the 612 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 3: eleventh of January, and our twins were born on the 613 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 3: third January, almost a year later. Yeah. 614 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: Crazy, crazy, So that's a lot sort of I hope, 615 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 1: our sort of story. 616 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 2: So I mean not at all. 617 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: No, Yeah, And you set up a charity as well 618 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: in honor of patn Alley. 619 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, called Pompoms and Stardust, and the aim is to 620 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 3: help other women going through what we're going through. We 621 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 3: went through support and husbands too, women and you know, 622 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 3: of course it's just yeah, and I've been a little 623 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 3: slow off the charity. We're going to be doing an 624 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: outdoor under the stars event every year to raise money, 625 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 3: and we're sort of planning, we're just talking about it. 626 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 3: Last night actually when we're going to do it, so 627 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 3: hopefully hopefully we can all get have more than ten 628 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 3: people around, and we want to do it outside in November. 629 00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, hopefully that's Melbernie and can. 630 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 3: Hopefully and if not, we were talking about doing it 631 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 3: on their anniversary next year, on January the eleventh, so 632 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 3: and it might be just that yearly thing. So I've 633 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 3: sort of coming to light. 634 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing that because I imagine, Look, 635 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: I can't imagine PP, to be honest, you know, I think. 636 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 3: Well, what was interesting I and it comes back to 637 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 3: the Instagram and social media was silent a couple of weeks, 638 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 3: not knowing I lost my voice. I don't know about 639 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 3: anyone else, but for me, I lose my voice when 640 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 3: I'm really upset, I cannot speak, like I just literally 641 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 3: go into a hole of quietness and I just lose 642 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 3: my voice. And I actually put something online on Instagram 643 00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 3: and I had the little feet and I may I 644 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 3: decided to let my friends know that way because it 645 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 3: was an easier It was just one time and I 646 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 3: didn't have to get all the emails back, and I 647 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 3: know I obviously did, and it. 648 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 6: Was the most extraordinary outpoor pouring of global love from 649 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 6: our friends that I haven't heard from in years. 650 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 3: People I didn't know, new friends, old friends, past people. 651 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 3: But it gave me so much support. And I was 652 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 3: so surprised that a medium like Instagram could support me. 653 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 3: When I became I was so I was vulnerable and honest, 654 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 3: and I just did what I did, sort of led 655 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 3: by my heart, and I just honestly it helped me 656 00:39:59,239 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 3: so much. 657 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: I've heard you in the past eight always keep hope 658 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: in your heart. Yeah, that's very pippy. How has that experience, 659 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: Obviously you're a big believer in things shaping the future, 660 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: and now having Hunter and Andy and two little rascals 661 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: with you, how has that now shaped where you want 662 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: to go. 663 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: Career wise and passion wise. 664 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 3: Well, it's an interesting thing really, because everything changes, right, 665 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 3: and everything's changed for everyone at the moment. So I 666 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 3: think I was ready to kind of connect my dreams. 667 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 3: I've been running around the world chasing my dreams for 668 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 3: a long time, and I needed to be in LA 669 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 3: because of not only professional but personal dreams. And I 670 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 3: had this sort of I said, epiphany, the other amazing 671 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 3: that but I did, and I was like, hold on 672 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 3: a minute. I actually I can sit quietly and I 673 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 3: don't need to chase my dreams anymore. I've put the 674 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 3: hard yards in. I can sit quietly and work hard, 675 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 3: but I can actually go and grab my dreams now. Yeah, 676 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 3: And I can be anywhere as long as my heart 677 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 3: and my my heart and my head are connected, I 678 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 3: can be anywhere, and I can. I can live out 679 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 3: my dreams. I can. I can. I can grab my 680 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 3: dreams now. So I'm sort of really trying to fall 681 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 3: in love with everything, yeah, because I have been. I've 682 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 3: been on this personal go get for a long time 683 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 3: and now I'm sort of in mark two, mark three 684 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 3: of my career. So I've made this sort of really calculated, 685 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 3: solid decision to focus on children's entertainment, which is so 686 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 3: fulfilling and so you know, so me, it's filling me 687 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 3: up with happiness. I can. I can speak about rainbows 688 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 3: and colorful glitter and sunshine all day and and sort 689 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 3: of not not have to make excuses for it anymore. 690 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 3: I'm really trying to be the authentic person who I 691 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 3: am today right now. So I'm so excited I'm writing. 692 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 3: I'm writing children's music. 693 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: So good, Pepe I cannot wait. You've got to let 694 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: me listen after this pod. 695 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 2: I cannot. 696 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 3: I would love, I would love to play you something, 697 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 3: but I am so excited. Yeah, so it's pretty close. 698 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 3: So watch this space. And I've been writing in this 699 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 3: sort of in this lockdown, in this new world that 700 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 3: we're living in, and having that time for the you know, 701 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,919 Speaker 3: creative people often don't have time to get everything out 702 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 3: of them totally and put it in. You know, I've 703 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 3: had the opportunity to be able to put it, put 704 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 3: things to paper finally, in between naps. Might I act 705 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 3: it's a window every day, but I am able to. 706 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 3: I think everything's catching up and everything sort of locking 707 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 3: in in this beautiful, happy bliss that I'm sitting in 708 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 3: at the moment. 709 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 2: Amazing. 710 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 1: Can I ask one more thing about the kiddlings, the 711 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: little munch can't ask anything modern family. You have to 712 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: take me through this, Like I was. I was consuming 713 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: it from the outside, but I want to know what 714 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: it was like on the inside. 715 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what a random mamas your thing to do? 716 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 2: I love it. 717 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 3: Let's go check on that one. Basically, and I mean 718 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 3: check staring, not check. Yeah, But so basically Josh was 719 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 3: away and I, you know, I was juggling both babies. 720 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 3: The sun Shining is the California's you know, Sunshining. My 721 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 3: neighbor is an actor, and he's like, oh. 722 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 7: My god, you know casting notice they're looking some shows 723 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 7: looking for twins, and I was like newborn twins. 724 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 3: I was like, well, I've got them because Country Andy 725 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 3: actually were thirty. They came at thirty five weeks and 726 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 3: a hunter was in the niqu for five weeks, so 727 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 3: he was out and healthy and I but they were 728 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 3: like they were newborn because they were early, and I 729 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I've got newborn twins. I did not 730 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 3: even know how to put the stroller together, nor did 731 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 3: I know how to put car seats in the car. 732 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 3: Yet that's how newbie this was. 733 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 7: So I got mum to come with me on the 734 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 7: morning of we got a notice and it was Modern Family, 735 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,840 Speaker 7: and I was like, hold on a minute, Modern Family. 736 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 3: We're going a lot of Fox Lot and so no. 737 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,720 Speaker 3: I went down there. There was another set of twins 738 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 3: that literally looked like they were going to high school. 739 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 2: They were like so big little and. 740 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 3: We got we got you know, the director came and 741 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,280 Speaker 3: looked at both the twins and them. We were first 742 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 3: up and sudden we were chepping it onto this set. 743 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 3: Now I have not I didn't watch Modern Family in 744 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 3: a little minute. I didn't realize that someone was pregnant. 745 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 3: Hailey was pregnant with twins. I thought that we were 746 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 3: going to be like a flashback and there were twins 747 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 3: replacing twins. I got on set and suddenly that my 748 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 3: babies were acted to the boys, and I was like, 749 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 3: hold on a minute. And then I watched it from 750 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 3: the monitor behind the director me burst into tears. I 751 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 3: was like so proud, like and it was that they 752 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 3: came out to Lia King. It was like and I 753 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 3: was like, oh, okay, well this was fun. And then 754 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 3: we got a callback for the final season and the 755 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 3: babies were in the final season with their trailer. I 756 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 3: was going on set for three days for week and 757 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 3: all I did was sat behind the director and just 758 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 3: like took notes. I was like, this is the best. 759 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: This is like full on like yes, you know, yeah, 760 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: it's a massive television yeow. 761 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 3: So I just sat there listening, learning, you know, crossing 762 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 3: my fingers that Hunter wasn't going to you know, cry 763 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 3: or and he wasn't going to scream. Hunter was so 764 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,760 Speaker 3: into it. It was hilarious. It was holding court. Yeah, 765 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 3: so amazing. 766 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, how does that experience differ to being on 767 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: a reality show like Very Cavaliery, because I imagine that's 768 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: totally different, like you just like go for it and 769 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 1: cameras are rolling. 770 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:11,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's very different because it's not staged. Yeah, 771 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 3: you know, everything's blocked out on Modern Family. So they 772 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 3: do a lot of rehearsals, a lot of rehearsals, and 773 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 3: then the babies are brought in. Yeah, and then and 774 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 3: then with a very cavalry it's more like a shot 775 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 3: at Yeah, that's really amazing. 776 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: How many cameras are there with Very Cavalry because it 777 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: looks just like you feel like a fly on the wall. 778 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 2: It's really intimated. 779 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 3: Two to three cameras depending on sort of the scene. Yeah, 780 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 3: so it was fun. It was I got to go 781 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 3: to Italy. 782 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 2: I'm not did you go to Mexico as well? Did 783 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:49,280 Speaker 2: you getic? 784 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 3: I went to Mexico and we went to Italy, Like 785 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 3: it was amazing. Mexico was just before the twins were born. 786 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 3: Like I was like like with Carmen, I was, I was, 787 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 3: I was, I was like please don't give bath. Please, 788 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 3: don't give up. 789 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 2: It was your last hurrah. 790 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 3: It was my last hurrah, my crew. It was amazing, 791 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 3: It was so fun. 792 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 2: Pippy, you are freaking incredible. 793 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: I want to end this on a quote I read 794 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: of yours, and it's never give up because dreams do 795 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 1: come true. And do you have one little last pocket 796 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: of inspo you just want to share anyone that might 797 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: just be wanting to be a mama bear and struggling 798 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: or not sure or grappling with something, or someone that's 799 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 1: got a dream and they're like, yes, I want to 800 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: create my own stuff, Like, what is your advice? 801 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 3: Oh, dreams Like, dreams do come true if you work hard. Yeah, 802 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 3: just if you work hard, set your mind to it, 803 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,399 Speaker 3: and know that there's support. But you are the You're 804 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 3: the leader. You're the creator of your own destiny. You know. 805 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 3: Don't let anyone set stop, you know, don't let no 806 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 3: stand in your way. Don't yes it's standing. Just go 807 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 3: for it, you know. I just I truly believe that 808 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 3: any all of us, we can achieve anything we dare 809 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 3: to dream. 810 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: Ah, And you have always inspired me to live that 811 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: way and it's such a dream too. 812 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 2: I love you too. It's such a dream to always work. 813 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,840 Speaker 1: With you so and get to hang out with you, 814 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 1: and every time we speak, I'm like. 815 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 2: Let's do this thing. 816 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 3: You're like, let's do this thing. 817 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 2: So thank you from the bottom of my heart, Pippy. 818 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 3: I adore you and great podcasts. I love it. I've 819 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 3: been listening so well. 820 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 2: We want to show in person, but I lockdown. 821 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 3: I know I'd be very honored to be asked to 822 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 3: be a part of this. So thank you, thank you, 823 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 3: thank you, thank you, Pippy. I adore you. 824 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 2: Ah bye bye. 825 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 826 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation 827 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: on Instagram. 828 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 2: I'm at Yamo Lollaberry. 829 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: This potty my word for podcast is available on all 830 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: streaming platforms. I'd love it if you could subscribe, rate 831 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,479 Speaker 1: and comment and of course spread the love.