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Speaker 1: Joining me on the line right now, though, is Kezier

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Speaker 1: puric at a Kesier Hey, good morning, Katie Kezier. A

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Speaker 1: lot of discussion over the last few days about Holts.

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Speaker 1: I'd actually spoken to his sister earlier in the week

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Speaker 1: about the number of residents. Yes, yeah, I mean, what

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Speaker 1: do you make of this discussion? And then who's going

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Speaker 1: to sort of manage it, whether it's going to be

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Speaker 1: Litchfield or whether it's going to be Parmeston.

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Speaker 2: Well, Katie, I spoke to Doug Barden, the Litchfield council mayor,

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Speaker 2: only last week about the Holt's area and the matter

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Speaker 2: and a few other things, because we catch up on

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Speaker 2: a regular basis, and he told me that in his

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Speaker 2: meetings and discussions with Athena Pasco Bell, she had said

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Speaker 2: the Parmesan Council was not interested in anything like taking over,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Wholt's area because it's sort of close

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Speaker 2: to you know, Parmesan, I mean all Parmesan Council. But

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Speaker 2: Butt's onto darn it, Butts onto Lichfield. So how can

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Speaker 2: we now believe her word? Like she said that to

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Speaker 2: Doug Barden on more than one occasion. He told me

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Speaker 2: they are not interested and yet now she comes out

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Speaker 2: and says, oh, we think we should because the Lichfield

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Speaker 2: Council residents are swimming in our pool and shopping in

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Speaker 2: our shops. Like how dare I can tell you this

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Speaker 2: is just the nonsense argument. And I think I heard

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Speaker 2: Jerry Woods saying a whole swagger stuff has been provided

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Speaker 2: by the anti government, which it has to Parmersan, you know,

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Speaker 2: lots of sweetheart deals and pork barren, you know, for

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Speaker 2: those electors. So she's saying, oh, urban density, and therefore

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Speaker 2: you know, questioning whether Lichfield Council has the capacity or

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Speaker 2: capability to manage it. I mean, how dare she We've

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Speaker 2: got some high denity or small density living out at

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Speaker 2: Humpty do we've got a cool linger across the road

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Speaker 2: with units and small housing lots and all that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff. I mean, what people have to know who

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Speaker 2: don't know Lichfield Council has a flat rate system, whereas

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Speaker 2: Parmesan has the unimproved capital value. Now this will be

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Speaker 2: and let's call it an urban type development. And how

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Speaker 2: big the blocks are as yet to be seen, so

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Speaker 2: it might well have to be different rating system. Who knows,

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Speaker 2: But that's not for you to discuss Pasco Bell for

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Speaker 2: Lichfield Council and who and however it gets developed. Now

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Speaker 2: I heard Mary Well say there's water and other things

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Speaker 2: sort of perhaps planned for that area and good and

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Speaker 2: old people good. The fact that it's called Parlison Hospitals

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Speaker 2: means bugger all. It's in Litchville and it should have

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Speaker 2: been called a hospital after some well known territory person

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Speaker 2: in the medical sphere, I believe, and all that side

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Speaker 2: of the road is in Lichvielle. Litchfield Council is very

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Speaker 2: capable and it's up to that council to discuss with

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Speaker 2: the anti government that's how they go forward. But you know,

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Speaker 2: I just think it's a grab for rate money and

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Speaker 2: it's also grab for power.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you make though of Like, what

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Speaker 1: do you make of that discussion that she'd have where

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Speaker 1: it like it is close to Palmeston, they are going

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Speaker 1: to be potentially, you know, using all those different facilities.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you make of that?

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Speaker 2: Katie? Katie, you can't presume to assume they will be

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Speaker 2: using all those facilities. It's like saying I can't go

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Speaker 2: into Darwin and go to the cinema or the movies

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Speaker 2: or the restaurants because it's close to I mean, Lichfield

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Speaker 2: goes right up to Nucky's lagoose heaven forbid a place

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Speaker 2: you offer shop locally close to there. I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: just a nonsense argument. Well, I guess it goes Darwin

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Speaker 2: Parlis in Litchfield and we all use each other's services

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Speaker 2: and facility.

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Speaker 1: And the other part of that is you're a spot on.

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Speaker 1: We all use each other's facilities, and you know, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't sort of matter which part of the Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: you're living in. We all obviously pay our taxes too.

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Speaker 2: And Katie, I drive through Catherine and I go and

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Speaker 2: sit in there. Catherine Council, you know allocated park and

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Speaker 2: reserve areas. You know, like that's just a nonsense argument.

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Speaker 2: It is in Litchfield Council and it will stay in

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Speaker 2: Lichfield Council. And I just think that the Parlisan Council

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Speaker 2: should focus on their own efforts and we're governed to

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Speaker 2: stop the crime in their bloody community. That's impacting on

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Speaker 2: people who are too scared to even go and shop

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Speaker 2: in there. I don't know where she thinks we're going

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Speaker 2: to shop in there, because it's too bloody scary. You know,

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Speaker 2: does that mean Parlistan people can't come out to cool

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Speaker 2: Linger Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I would say teasier I went. I actually went to

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Speaker 1: Gateway the other weekend and I was surprised at how

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Speaker 1: utterly lovely it was in there, Like I didn't have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a well planned and it's a nice shopping center.

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Speaker 2: It's got all the facilities good for older you know,

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Speaker 2: with coffee shops and sit down and have chin wags

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Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff. Supermarket, cinema, nice easy places.

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Speaker 2: It's been a well designed shopping center and shops a

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Speaker 2: well run. It's got a few social issues around the fringes,

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Speaker 2: but then lots of our shopping centers. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: thankfully we don't have those kind of issues out here.

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Speaker 2: It's bullies and the shopping center over the road. But

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Speaker 2: you know, this is I think what we should be

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Speaker 2: focusing on, and maybe this is a red herring chucked

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Speaker 2: out by Parmersan Council. What we should be focusing on

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Speaker 2: is how the Wholtz development is going to be developed,

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Speaker 2: because you know, this will be urban sized blocks, but

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Speaker 2: it abuts onto rule Land of which I'm one of them,

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Speaker 2: clearly a best at interest and all my neighbors. You know,

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Speaker 2: there are five ten twenty acre blocks and one hundred

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Speaker 2: acre blocks in that area, and so you're going to

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Speaker 2: potentially have a clash of culture. We've had public meetings

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Speaker 2: and the public servants were pretty hopeless and the true

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Speaker 2: North communication Bob, they had no bloody or idea what

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Speaker 2: they were talking about. He is just giving us little.

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Speaker 1: Bit of what why in what why?

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Speaker 2: Well, well, Katie, we were told there was going to

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Speaker 2: be a two hundred meter buffer from the neighbour's background

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Speaker 2: towards the hospital. Now it's not going to be one

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty. And then they told us, oh, we're

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Speaker 2: going to have major power lines running down there. Now

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Speaker 2: we're going to have sewage running down here. Every time

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Speaker 2: we have a public meeting, they keep changing the story,

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Speaker 2: so they can't be believed either. And I know they

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Speaker 2: just did a summary recently. That area originally was planned

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Speaker 2: to be one hectic kind of blocks of lands under

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Speaker 2: a previously ORPI government. And the government should be going

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Speaker 2: back and looking at that, and I will be talking

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Speaker 2: to leave Nacchio and hers. That's how that land should

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Speaker 2: be developed to be semi rule because it is located

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Speaker 2: right near to rule. Now, the one thing I wanted

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Speaker 2: to add, Katie, the Anti government does not own Colowndi.

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Speaker 2: It is still owned by the Commonwealth. And I can

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Speaker 2: tell you now, I spoke to someone this morning in

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Speaker 2: the military and there are still military people attached to

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Speaker 2: Krondi in a caretaker situation. So for the Chief Minister

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Speaker 2: to say, oh, we're looking to build this eleven thousand

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Speaker 2: blocks bone but you said twenty five or twenty eight published,

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Speaker 2: they haven't even finished. They haven't even probably started negotiations.

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Speaker 2: Engy government has to buy that land.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Keesier, we are going to have.

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Speaker 2: To even start developing or thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: We are going to have to wrap up. We've got

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Speaker 1: to get across and do a whip around the nation

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Speaker 1: before we get to the midday news. But we're going

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Speaker 1: to see you tomorrow morning for the week that was. Oh,

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Speaker 1: of course, we'll see you then for good stuff. Good

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Speaker 1: on you Easier, Thank you,