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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me Lolaberry, author, nutritionist,

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Speaker 1: and yoga teacher join me as we get to know

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Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately

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Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lolaberry. Hello,

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Speaker 1: I am really excited for today's pod. It is the

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Speaker 1: second podcast I've recorded in real life in LA and

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Speaker 1: it is with an actor, writer and comedian Clayton Ferris.

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Speaker 2: Such a talent.

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Speaker 1: If you don't know him yet, definitely watch his Instagram reels.

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Speaker 2: They are so so funny.

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Speaker 1: He does these hilarious real where he's hiking in la

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Speaker 1: and basically just takes the mickey out of himself. Very

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Speaker 1: very funny guy. In this chat, we talk about a

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Speaker 1: lot of things acting, but also the difference between the

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Speaker 1: acting world in Australia and in America, which is really fascinating,

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Speaker 1: really interesting little things like in Australia you have to

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Speaker 1: be off book. In America it depends on what the

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Speaker 1: gig is. Therefore kind of like what you.

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Speaker 2: Go in with.

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Speaker 1: He's also got a wonderful podcast called what the Funk

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Speaker 1: I have Binge listened to like five episodes in the

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Speaker 1: lead up.

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Speaker 2: To researching him and I'm hooked. It's a great pod.

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Speaker 1: And he's also just bought out a movie called RoadHead

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Speaker 1: and it's available on Amazon Prime now. So pop all

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Speaker 1: his details in the show notes. I hope you love

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Speaker 1: this chat. I found it really inspiring and entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Mega love from La and.

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Speaker 1: Big, big, big thank you. Clayton Ferris. You are a legend.

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Speaker 3: Do you know your attachment style? I'm so bummed about

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Speaker 3: Chateau Marmont. I'm so bad at Twitter. I was called

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Speaker 3: back for that. I don't think my agent gets me.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually Kielio, which is like a Paleo Kedo combo.

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Speaker 3: Oh look there's a fire. Are mushrooms legal? Now? You

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Speaker 3: can move to Atlanta. Be like a big fish in

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Speaker 3: a small pond. I'm not giving up skinny jeans. I've

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Speaker 3: never seen an episode of Friends. I actually stop brushing

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Speaker 3: my teeth. I just choo parsleep. I had a show

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Speaker 3: on Quibi. Did you drink Kegan Water? I did like

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Speaker 3: an authentic ayahuasca thing in Cover City. I mean, all

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Speaker 3: cults start with good intentions. I found this really cute

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Speaker 3: one bedroom for one point nine.

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Speaker 1: I'm so honored to Tavy on this podcast. I kind

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Speaker 1: of instant stalk to you to get you here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so honored to be here. I mean it's

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Speaker 3: so like badass.

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Speaker 1: Actor, rider, comedian and ps, we're recording this in a sweatbox.

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Speaker 2: I am feeling hot already.

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Speaker 3: It is like the middle of summer has hit Los

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Speaker 3: Angeles hard and it's like fuck.

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Speaker 2: And it stays hot in the night time. Yeah, dude,

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Speaker 2: Like I don't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've lived here for a while now and

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Speaker 3: like climatized. I will know, like every year it like

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the weird thing is is no one here. I

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Speaker 3: don't know how it is an Australia, but no one

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Speaker 3: here has AC. A lot of people don't have AC. Oh,

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Speaker 3: so these places aren't built with air conditioners.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, see that fan behind us We've got. I've got

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Speaker 1: this ginormous fan. It's not on because I want to

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Speaker 1: ruin the sound of the pod, but I like move

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Speaker 1: it with each room that I'm working in and where

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Speaker 1: I'm sleeping is my life.

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Speaker 3: You can go ahead and cancel your Hot Yoga membership

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Speaker 3: because you can just do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm literally burning out right right now. I'm so pumped though, so.

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Speaker 3: So wearing like a big sweater.

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Speaker 1: Well I thought it felt kind of summary, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's long sleeves.

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Speaker 2: Actor rider.

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Speaker 1: I want to say comedian as well, because you're comedy real,

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Speaker 1: like I watch it five times obsessed.

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Speaker 3: I like that. I like being called a comedian.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So how I found out about you is

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Speaker 1: through reels on Instagram. It's specifically my friends. I moved

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess like basically it's just me kind

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Speaker 3: when I hear myself saying certain things, I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: Some of my favorites are like, I'm going is it

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Speaker 1: Kilio half.

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Speaker 3: Half Paleo half Keto? Is Kilio?

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Speaker 1: I think I'm going to start microdosing mushrooms. Did you

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Speaker 1: read Goop this morning? And I love my favorite because

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Speaker 1: I do these things. Do you want to go to

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Speaker 1: air one after this? Yeah, I spent forty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because I see your air Won bottles right here.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: It's like a real addiction that I can't control.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean it's I'm so glad it opened up

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Speaker 3: because I live close to here too. But I mean

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Speaker 3: I'm just making fun of my Like these are things

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Speaker 3: No, I feel that. But like I said the eighty

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Speaker 3: like there's one idea that really like resonated with people

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Speaker 3: where I said, like I found out I have ADHD

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Speaker 3: like we all have done that. If you have a

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Speaker 3: TikTok and it's in your algorithm and you follow that stuff,

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Speaker 3: you're like, oh, I have ADHD, And but like I

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Speaker 3: don't know if that's the right way to get diagnosed

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Speaker 2: No, but it is. I think you bring light.

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Speaker 1: Like also, the pandemic was obviously such a I mean.

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Speaker 2: We're free in La right. Yeah, it all lifts you

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Speaker 2: know too. Freedom no mask today, my friend.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's so nice to bring this like

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Speaker 1: so many people. I know, I spent a lot of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean I kind of coming off this

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Speaker 3: it it resonates that's what people want right now. No one,

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Speaker 3: we don't need another political opinion. We don't need you know,

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Speaker 3: like we just don't need like, so that's not what

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Speaker 3: I can contribute. I can be I can just like

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Speaker 2: So good. I've watched every single one of your reels.

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Speaker 1: I had so much the moment you said yes to

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that you started on Vine. Is that

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I've always, like, I guess, been a

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Speaker 3: And then and like you have to understand, like social

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And then and then like Vine came along and

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Speaker 3: So we just like started doing like these funny, silly

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Speaker 3: then Twitter bought Vine. Yeah, and then I don't know

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Speaker 3: They canceled it. So we had not really pushed our

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Speaker 2: No, Well, you're instat following feels pretty strong.

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Speaker 1: Like I feel like it's totally like some of your

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Speaker 2: It's pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean something about these hiking videos and just

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Speaker 3: me making fun of like the LA culture has really

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Speaker 2: I have a pitch for you.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, if you can do an Australian accent,

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Speaker 1: there's a Facebook group called Aussie's in La Okay, which

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Speaker 1: I mean in and like Ozzie's struggle with so much

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Speaker 1: no props, but the culture is really different, like little

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Speaker 1: things like I can't ask for a glass of water,

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Speaker 1: like most people like what what are you saying?

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Speaker 2: And I'm like water, Like you really have to get that.

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Speaker 3: I can't do an Australian accent. The only thing I

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Mura's wedding.

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Speaker 3: If you oh that's from your I've never known, but

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Speaker 3: like like if I say it rise up Lights, yes

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Speaker 1: My brain is like pink plays pink pongs, So don't worry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 1: So this is going to we're going to go back

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love to be on that show.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I would be a zombie.

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Speaker 2: What did she say? What did you talk about?

440
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Speaker 3: I was just like, you know, you're going out for commercials.

441
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Speaker 3: Like I'm like, I'm talking to her like as if

442
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 3: she's an actor. No, she was like so sweet and kind.

443
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 3: She She's tiny, isn't She's tiny? She smelled really good

444
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,160
Speaker 3: and she had like her own like makeup and hair,

445
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 3: like she had her own crew.

446
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Speaker 2: I have to ask Ryan Murphy, he's like the genius.

447
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's I mean, I've done three Ryan Murphy shows

448
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 3: and I kind of like I want to continue building.

449
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Speaker 3: I want to be part of that world.

450
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Speaker 1: You have to One of my acting teachers is Cody

451
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Speaker 1: Fern okay who he is in American He's the Antichrist?

452
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 1: Oh okay, and so Mike Yeah, he's Aussie Michael Langdon

453
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 1: And then in Assassination of Gianni Vasaci played a Cary,

454
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 1: one of the lead characters in that. And when Australia

455
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 1: went into lockdown, they bought in American teachers because we

456
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,640
Speaker 1: were learning via zoom and he came on and taught

457
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Speaker 1: and I was like, how is this dude?

458
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 2: Is like yeah, like.

459
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Speaker 1: Doing so well with Ryan Murphy's I mean that would

460
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Speaker 1: be a massive goal.

461
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a huge it's a huge goal. And it's

462
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 3: like all his shows are. Like Sarah Pulson started following

463
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 3: me on Instagram and I was like, oh my god,

464
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 3: and like a lot of the American horror story people did,

465
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 3: so I'm like, oh, because I was in.

466
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Speaker 2: Ratchet Oh I love Ratchets so much.

467
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Speaker 3: I have a small role in that. But it was

468
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Speaker 3: it was a fun thing because we like I think

469
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 3: it was like ten days I worked on the show.

470
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Speaker 2: Was it shot here?

471
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Speaker 3: It was shot here kind of like at a ranch

472
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 3: like kind of in Calabasas area. Yeah. But one of

473
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 3: but the John John brionis who plays the doctor in that,

474
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Speaker 3: he like the main doctor. He is someone that I

475
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 3: did theater with like ten years ago. So it was

476
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 3: just cool to see him kind of like leading, like

477
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 3: helping lead this show. Ten years ago we were doing

478
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 3: like rag Time at this small little theater in Hollywood.

479
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Speaker 3: How cool. I feel like one thing I'm realizing about

480
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 3: la and about just Hollywood in general, is it's a

481
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 3: small it's a small community. Like I've heard this about Broadway,

482
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 3: Like everyone like we all look at Broadway like, oh

483
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 3: my god, it's Broadway, But when you're in it it

484
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 3: just feels like like this kind of like small, incestuous

485
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Speaker 3: like yeah, and I'm realizing, like that's kind of how

486
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Speaker 3: HOLLI it is. It's not as like like far off

487
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 3: reaching as we think. It's more of just like I

488
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 3: don't know, that's what it's kind of cool. Yeah, that's

489
00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 3: kind of what I'm thinking. That that's cool.

490
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Speaker 1: Oh well, I love Ratchet, so I'm just that's an

491
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Speaker 1: excuse to rewatch it just to find you, well see.

492
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 3: If you can find me. But in that I mean,

493
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 3: I play like a reporter and I get people don't

494
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 3: like even to myself. I'm like, I play a lot

495
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 3: of different characters and things. Yeah, so it's hard to

496
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 3: like wreck. I don't have like one thing that I do.

497
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Speaker 1: I think we'll see. Okay, this is what this brings

498
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 1: me to your comedy reel. And I am watching your

499
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: comedy reel. I catch myself just like I cannot wipe

500
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: the smile off my face, just even because Australians and

501
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 1: Americans have quite different of being known for quite different

502
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 1: senses of humor, and we're very similar to British, so

503
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Speaker 1: we get the sarcasm, the self deprecation. That probably why

504
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Speaker 1: the alat hikes are also resonating with so many people

505
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: as well, because you're essentially self deprecating.

506
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Speaker 2: You know, you don't really give.

507
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 3: Me totally right, and that's a huge compliment. Like I

508
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: love like British comedy.

509
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 1: And oh yeah me too, me too, but yeah, watch

510
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Speaker 1: your comedy real. You have this beautiful ability, like I

511
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: feel like comedy is in your bones, Like you have

512
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: this incredible ability of like holding this space is almost

513
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: like a straight like the straight character, and then you

514
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: like sit down sepaestion like you're like, it's very I

515
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: don't like, I don't know how to describe it because

516
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about comedy. I'm so excited to

517
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 1: start improv classes here just like, ah, that feels scary.

518
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's a lot of when it

519
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 3: comes to comedy. For me, there's a lot Like for me,

520
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 3: it's become a lot less of like doing insane and

521
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 3: like always being like on and like you know, like

522
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 3: but da da da da, and for me like a

523
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 3: new show up working on and realizing just sitting back

524
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Speaker 3: and kind of like waiting just hitting hitting one line

525
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 3: or throwing in one in BROV Like it's more rewarding

526
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: for an audience than it is to always be like

527
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: on fire all the time.

528
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Speaker 2: Have you seen Bo Burnham's inside.

529
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,959
Speaker 3: I haven't about it.

530
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: I feel like you would love it, Like I was

531
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: thinking that yesterday as I was like literally going down

532
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: the rap hole of every YouTube video you've ever put up.

533
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: But because sometimes you're seeing as well when you're doing bits,

534
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you need to watch boben. He's incredible,

535
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: but also like he was also me and promising young woman.

536
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: And that's where you talk about, you know how you

537
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: just said, I don't know if I'm like, you've got

538
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: the drama down, pat, but also you've got the comedy.

539
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Speaker 2: So I don't think there's any reason why you can't

540
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Speaker 2: do it all.

541
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Speaker 3: I mean that's my like, that's what I want to do,

542
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 3: like I think, And they people always say that they're

543
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 3: like all a lot of our greatest actors were comedians,

544
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Speaker 3: you know, like people look at like Robin Williams, yeah,

545
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: or like even Jim Carrey, just a lot of these people.

546
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 3: And I'm not comparing myself to them. I'm just saying,

547
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 3: like I like the idea, Like I like the idea

548
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 3: of doing both and I don't treat them differently.

549
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 2: Really that's cool.

550
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 3: I think that playing comedy straight and playing it like

551
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 3: drama makes.

552
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: It totally you know, And that's where I think you

553
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 1: like Americans, Australians, British.

554
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I'm tall poppy syndrome right now?

555
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: Do you do you set me up? No?

556
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: No, it's awesome. This is awesome.

557
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,239
Speaker 1: So even like talking, do you know whose comedy I

558
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: love is Jason Bateman And he does that straight like

559
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: Arista Development. He's very very the straight guy, but like

560
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: that he held this one moment where you're just like,

561
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: there's those memes is like like fuck you are, like

562
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: you'll have these little moments where you just like right, and.

563
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 3: He's surrounded by like the crazy characters. Yeah, so it's

564
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 3: like you're not always required to be the person, and

565
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: it's like finding it's kind of like a cheat. Like

566
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: I think that with certain characters like if you can

567
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 3: if you can rip it a like an audience's heartstrings

568
00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 3: and be like funny like in a comedy, yeah, they're

569
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 3: going to look like they're going to love you. And

570
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 3: I think that like my long term goal with all

571
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: this is to like get a role kind of on

572
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: a beloved show. I don't have to be the lead.

573
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 3: It's like a small side, like a side character that

574
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: audiences love. That's like my goal.

575
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: Well, I have here, what's the what's the big dream?

576
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: Because you've already ticked off so many like bucket list

577
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: items for an actor, but it's like I've written here,

578
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: what's the big dream?

579
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the big dream is to have my

580
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: own show that I kind of show run. Yeah. And

581
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: it's more because writing has become kind of like my

582
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: like my actual thing that I do. Yeah. I mean

583
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 3: I always I am going to act and love acting,

584
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: but like writings where I feel like a lot of

585
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 3: momentum is for me. Yeah. So I mean I want

586
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: to have a show that I basically create and run.

587
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 3: And it's like I don't necessarily mean that, like I

588
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 3: need to be like if I'm manifesting this, like I

589
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: don't have to be the star of the show. It's

590
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: just kind of like a show that I have created it.

591
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 3: And like I actually work with a comedian named trailer

592
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: trash Tammy.

593
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: I've watched your watch your videos together? Are my favorites?

594
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: The Amazon interview, Yeah, my God.

595
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: To be shared of it.

596
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I'm interviewing trailer trash. Tammy is basically plays

597
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: It's like this character of someone that's from Oklahoma. Yes,

598
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: she's kind of like what we call here white trash. Yes,

599
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 3: and she uh is interviewing for a job at Amazon.

600
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 3: We shot this during the pandemic and she just like

601
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: doesn't know what customer service entails. I just always play,

602
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: and like that's another example. I play the straight man

603
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: to her, like her like crazy character, and like that's

604
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 3: what you need. You need that straight man to like

605
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: this craziness. But we actually have a show that we

606
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: are developing and have made that we're going to be

607
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: pitching soon and and I'm like this is this is

608
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: like I'm excited about it. It's called tam Bangs. And

609
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 3: it's basically like the office meets a porn set. So

610
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: it's like so it's like a porn it's like a

611
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: workplace comedy, but the workplace is a porn set.

612
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, I cannot cannot wait.

613
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: Have you questioned office?

614
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: Are you more probly the American office or the British

615
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: the og the Ricky Gives Office.

616
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a fan of both, but I'm not

617
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: even I don't. This is gonna sound like something from

618
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: one of the Hike videos, Like I don't watch a

619
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: lot of comedy. I don't watch a lot of I

620
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: don't even watch any comedy. Yeah, Like that's a that's

621
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: a direct that that was one of my lines from

622
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: the last video. It's going to be like I don't

623
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 3: even watch Shit's Creek because I know that Ship's Creek

624
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: is like a great show that people love, and it's

625
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: going to be like such a like you know, a

626
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 3: monumental show and the comedy cannon. Yeah, but I just

627
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: I like, I don't watch a lot of comedy. Like

628
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: my favorite show is The Crown.

629
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so good.

630
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: Which I'm learning that people are like that's people love it,

631
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: but it's also pretty boring, I guess to some people.

632
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: Well, it's like it's looking at British history, right and

633
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: royal history, so it's it's a whole different like mashed

634
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: up with.

635
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: Like the relationships that are going on within like the drama.

636
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: It's just a great it's just a perfectly written show.

637
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: But like I don't I don't watch a lot of

638
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: comedy because I'm judgmental of comedy.

639
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: You know, Oh wow, that's so interesting. I love it,

640
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: though this is so called to learn.

641
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: I have here, like, so you've got the I knew

642
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: you had theory in your bones for sure, So you've

643
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: got your theater. I loved watching your drama. I love

644
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: watching a comedy. You've answered this already. Obviously you're an

645
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: incredible commercial actor as well. And I've I had here,

646
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: like what's the fave? But you've already answered that, Like

647
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: it can be a combo of all, really, can't it?

648
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, I don't know if that's good to

649
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: not I guess on one thing. You know, some people

650
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: would argue that that's like a bad like move if

651
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 3: you're working towards something. But I mean, I think in

652
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: this business it's kind of good to have all of

653
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: the all of your like, I just I can't like

654
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: that's what I do. I'm an actor, writer, comedian, like,

655
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: I truly am those things.

656
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: No, it's perfect do it all.

657
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: You're looking at someone that's a nutritionist, a yoga teacher,

658
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: TV presenting.

659
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: I want to do act it, you know what I mean.

660
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 3: I think it's just in this world now, like we

661
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: just do multiple things. Are you nervous?

662
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: No?

663
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: I just do Oh my god, Okay, I check it

664
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: all the time, and I felt my level's head in

665
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: my By the way, what's going on here is like

666
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: I keep OCD checking the zoom recorder because I'm like,

667
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: when am I going.

668
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: To get this chance to speak to you again? Well,

669
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: our levels are perfect, by the way, you're wondering, good.

670
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 3: I hope I'm not like yelling on them. I find

671
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: myself yelling alone. But the commercial stuff, interestingly, and no,

672
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is interesting, but it's like

673
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: when I first moved to La, I was like, I

674
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: was like, how can I sustain living here for because

675
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: I literally moved here with like nothing, Like I moved

676
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: here for summer to work at a film festival and

677
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: then I just kind of stayed. Like the idea of

678
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 3: like acting was like, yeah, that's my dream, but it's

679
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: never going to happen. But the commerce I started, I

680
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, I'm going to focus on the commercial world. Yeah,

681
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: And that's like how I supported myself for the first film,

682
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: you know, Like that's just like what I did, and

683
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 3: it sustained me in La without having to like get

684
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: a job that I hate or anything like that. So

685
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: I will continue to do commercials till the day I day.

686
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: One thing I heard you say in an interview was

687
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: that you went to commercial classes. That doesn't exist in Australia.

688
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: I cannot go to commercial class. You're either studying theater,

689
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: you're studying film. There's not much on TV presenting like

690
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: it's very theater or film based of the two training.

691
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: That's it.

692
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, there ain't no commercial there right now. You can

693
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: do like there were improv like clubs and stuff, but

694
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: that's as far as it goes.

695
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: So what's a commercial class?

696
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 3: I mean, so there's a literally a teacher here. His

697
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: name is Killian McHugh and he's a commercial teacher. And

698
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: I mean because that's one of those things that kind of,

699
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: you know, rubs me the wrong way when people are

700
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: when it comes to commercials, they're just like it's just

701
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: a look, like yeah, it doesn't matter if you can

702
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: act or not. It's just a look. Yeah. And although yeah,

703
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: everything's just a look because like we are like a

704
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: visual medium, like your look does matter, but it more

705
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: it to me, there is a technique to it. So

706
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: he just teaches like more technique and like what like

707
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: what to do.

708
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: I've heard that's the same heat is like someone that

709
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: can work sololy on sitcoms, and so you learn timing.

710
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 3: Pace, like I mean, whenever you like really start diving

711
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: into scripts and stuff, you realize like sitcom I mean,

712
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: I think it's changing a little bit, but like sitcom

713
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: scripts are like it's like there's three jokes on a page.

714
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 3: It's like there's all these beats to it. Like but that,

715
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: interestingly enough, as a comedian, I don't do very well

716
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: in sitcoms. I don't. I like, I never done a sitcom. Yeah,

717
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: got it, you know, And so I'm because I don't

718
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: like that like being constrainting structure. Yeah, but I mean

719
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 3: so interesting. It's called Killian's Workshop and it's a commercial workshop,

720
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: and I don't know when I literally while I was

721
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: taking it, that's when I started booking commercials.

722
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: How cool.

723
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: So I heard you talk about when you're going for

724
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: the Honda SoCal commercial. You'd gone for like twenty or

725
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: something before, and they said the trick with this, if

726
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: you want to get book this, you need to be

727
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: able to speak the end bit really fast because it's

728
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: going to be voiceover. And so you didn't spend your

729
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: time working on the lines. You were like stuff this,

730
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to go in and read it. So if

731
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: they got a script on a board, is that how.

732
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 3: It works here in commercial casting? If it's a sag

733
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: like screen Actors Guilty, commercial, they have to have a

734
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 3: board for you really, like it's part of the union rules.

735
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: So if you don't get that in Australia.

736
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: Really it's even like is there a acting union, Yes,

737
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 3: there is, Yeah, I mean it's just one of the rules,

738
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: like you have to have a board. So I think

739
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: what I was getting at with that is when it

740
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 3: comes to like commercial acting, the key is like listen

741
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: to the fucking direction. Yeah, but like literally, like we

742
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 3: like so much of acting out here and getting booking

743
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: work is literally about getting rid of your rid of

744
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: your ego and getting rid of like that side of you.

745
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: That's like I think I want to do it like

746
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: this or like I think they should like you know,

747
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: like that trying to control everything. Just when it comes

748
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 3: to commercials, you are no longer working as acting. It's

749
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: not acting anymore. You're not like a yeah, performer, You're

750
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: you work in advertising now, like it's a different world

751
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 3: and you're there to like give them what they want.

752
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: And so when the director's like, can you do it again?

753
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: But say it like like, we love what you did,

754
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: but this time say it really slow. As an actor,

755
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: we always go, Okay, I'm going to hang on to

756
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 3: what I just did because they liked it, and I'm

757
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 3: going to slow it down a little bit.

758
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

759
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: But the person who's going to book the job is

760
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: the one that's like, Okay, fuck what I just did. Yeah,

761
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to just do this really slow because that's

762
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 3: what they said. And that's like, because it's sometimes they're

763
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: not even like looking for the performance that you're going

764
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: to give. They're just making sure on set. Whenever they're

765
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 3: working with like the you know, like the ad agency and.

766
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 2: The legal as well, there's a whole different thing.

767
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 3: You can like change what you're doing in the moment.

768
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: And I always so I've done a few campaigns in

769
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: Australia for Oral b and a big bank in Australia

770
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: and you have the legal team literally sitting there changing

771
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: the auto Q on the spot. Yeah, and so you

772
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: will have read it one way and they're like, and

773
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: we're going to do another take.

774
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 2: That was great.

775
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: We've just changed the scripted teleprompter. Yes, So do you

776
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: call it teleprompter. Yeah, yeah, we call it auto Q. Yeah,

777
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: same ballgame. You're reading it as it's moving basically. But yeah,

778
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: like I love doing that kind of commercial stuff because

779
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: it's also the buzz. It's usually quite big, so you

780
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: get to feel like.

781
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: Everyone's got a purpose.

782
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: You know, if something's not right, it's usually fixed very quickly.

783
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: And yeah, it just feels like a but you're right,

784
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: it's less of a like creative.

785
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 2: Delving into the moment that way discovery breaking.

786
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 3: Down the script on the scene. You're just like that,

787
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: you just said that.

788
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: So in Australia there is a common and I hope

789
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: that it's wrong, but there is a common like myth

790
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: about American acting that oh my god, it's all method,

791
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: it's all like trauma work like that is like, whereas

792
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: Australians and Brits wear very like beat for beat, play

793
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: the action, have a clear intention.

794
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: Well, i mean, who's working most in Hollywood right now?

795
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: It's it's Brits and Australians, right, I mean I'm always

796
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: like why, I'm like, I want to go study in

797
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: like the UK just to see what like this is

798
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: all about, because they're fucking great actors. Yeah, yeah, so

799
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I I don't know if it's method anymore,

800
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 3: Like I'm sure no. Let me rephrase that, because when

801
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 3: you you meet a lot of people that just moved

802
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 3: to LA, especially dudes that are just like still ride motorcycles,

803
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: and they're like, you know, I just want to go

804
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 3: through like the pain of like the character, and like

805
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: that would be like the method. Yes, yes, I discovered

806
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: I like love Meisner, like I never really Yeah, So

807
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: like I don't know if Meisner what you would call that.

808
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: That's not really a method.

809
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: No, not at all.

810
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: It's almost it's using your imagination. It's it's I always

811
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: feel like mys is like handy little hacks, like you

812
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: get these little tricks or you play repetition games and

813
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: you to quickly.

814
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: Get out of your head and to kind.

815
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: Of like, yeah, we've done I've done heaps of mist

816
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: and training.

817
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: I love. Yeah, me too, That's like my my thing.

818
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: But it's like it depends on what you want to

819
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 3: get out of a scene, Like are you trying to

820
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: create an interesting audition, then it's like use some weird

821
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: techniques before you start the scene that are just going

822
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: to put you in a different place. Yeah, or like

823
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: I remember I was doing a play once and it

824
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: was about this girl my girlfriend like kept threatening to

825
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 3: commit suicide, and I was like playing at the action,

826
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: like how am I supposed to feel? And then one

827
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: time during rehearsal, like I let it all go, we

828
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: did this like scene. You know, I started crying. I

829
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: felt everything I need to, Like, I felt it felt

830
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: real and I had reached like the pinnacle of like

831
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 3: what that scene was. And I was kind of like,

832
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 3: I'm kind of over this plane now and we haven't

833
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 3: even we hadn't even opened yet, but it was like

834
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: trying to reach you know. It was not trying to

835
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: reach it. That's the wrong way to say, but like

836
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 3: that was just a moment where I was like, oh,

837
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: I feel like I really went through what this character

838
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 3: was going through. Yeah, I you know, And it wasn't fun,

839
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 3: but it was. It was rewarding because I didn't even

840
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 3: know that I was capable of doing that, because I

841
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: feel like some I'm shut off emotionally. But then that's

842
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 3: not what you get when you're on a TV show.

843
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: When you're on a TV show, you never are going

844
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: to get those the feeling of like, oh I did

845
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 3: my scene, I did my work. Like it's such a service.

846
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 3: Like day to day it's like being a plumber, but

847
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: it's like on a film set. So like that's why

848
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 3: I encourage actors. I'm like, go to class because that's

849
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: the only place you're going to be able to like

850
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: be your like emotional dramatic self. Because when you're in

851
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 3: a scene, you're shooting little snippets of a scene, you're

852
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: starting at the end, going to the beginning, like you,

853
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 3: it's not as rewarding as it is to like do

854
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 3: a play or like be in class.

855
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: Totally. I had that experience.

856
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: I was training with an English director in Australia when

857
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: I was playing Maggie the Cat from Cat on a

858
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: Hot Tin roof Tennis. Williams pay us the Southern accent.

859
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 1: Class sow an accent I love, but oh boy, it's hod.

860
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: I used to the South, so I could judge your

861
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: southern Now.

862
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: Oh I used to have it before I go on,

863
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: I'd be like apple pie, get my mouth, doing the

864
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: right thing. But I remember I was always like struggling

865
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: that the director will be like, you're trying so hard,

866
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: You're holding on so tight all this work I thought

867
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: I'd done, and he's like you've done it, like just chill,

868
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: and I remember it being like an out of body

869
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: experience when I'd finally given over, just like what you said,

870
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: like to the point that I was like, what just

871
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: happened is like you fully amalgamated into Maggie.

872
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: You had that moment. Whereas I feel like television is

873
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: like you've got a mark. Stand on that mark.

874
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: You might have to deliver this five times, four times,

875
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: twenty five times. You might be acting to a little cross,

876
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: you may not be acting to this human being.

877
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and only like that's the interesting thing about acting

878
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: is like you only sometimes does it actually feel like,

879
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 3: oh god, I just like that was what I've been

880
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: wanting to do. But it's like you chase, you kind

881
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: of chase. Yeah, totally, you're just chasing that like thing.

882
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 3: But also if you really like and for me, like

883
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 3: if I invest in the carriag and if I do

884
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 3: the work for a scene, I can you know, I

885
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 3: can like get more out of it. Yeah, we're so

886
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: busy with like all these different auditions and like it's

887
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: like it's hard to it's hard. I don't know, it's

888
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: hard to do. I just wandered off.

889
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: No, No, I know you're saying, can I ask what

890
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: has been your favorite moment on set where you're like,

891
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: apart from scene next to Lady Gaga.

892
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: Like, is there a moment where you've just been like

893
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 2: that was sick?

894
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: I mean, like for me right now, what I like

895
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: am really loving is just kind of like I like

896
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: doing Indie, like I like doing TV because you get

897
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: to make money obnestly and money is great.

898
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: The eye contact just got so strong that you're like money.

899
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 3: Well, just like, don't get me wrong, like, yeah, I

900
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: never want to be like I don't want to do

901
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: a sitcom because I would love to do a sitcom

902
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: because you can make money and then when you have money,

903
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: you can make your own projects and freedom.

904
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

905
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: So look, money is a part of this, but like

906
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: why did I get into acting and spend my whole

907
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: life doing this? And why am I? Like, you know,

908
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: it's not always easy, like living out in la and

909
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: like not owning a home and like shit like that,

910
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: but it's like it's because like the community, Like oh god,

911
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: I sound like the La Hiker again. It's like the

912
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: community at like I remember when I was like fifteen

913
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 3: and I did Joseph in the amazing technicality.

914
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

915
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I experienced being in a cast and like

916
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: being around all these different actors that were you know,

917
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: fun and like just like me and like the energy,

918
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 3: and that's when I got like hooked. And it wasn't

919
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 3: necessarily like performing I've always loved, of course, but it

920
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 3: was more like the camaraderie and the friendships you make

921
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 3: and just like working as a team. And that's what

922
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 3: I am still chasing to this day. And like in

923
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: the film and TV world, you rely. I mean, if

924
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: you were on a show for like a couple of years,

925
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 3: I'm sure you'd build, like you'd build the family. But

926
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 3: to get that in the short term, it's like it's

927
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: when you do like movies and like these indie feature films,

928
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 3: these indie features feel like a family for like for

929
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: like you know, a couple of weeks. Like that's so

930
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 3: I guess what I'm saying is like I I don't

931
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: it's hard to pick like one moment, but I know

932
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 3: that what I'm chasing is like this like family experience

933
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 3: of like coming together and putting common goal, common goals something. Yeah,

934
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 3: the connection and just like everyone doing their best work

935
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 3: to like make something and we just had this movie

936
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: come out, RoadHead. Yeah. Well, but like whenever I saw

937
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: the movie, it's a it's a B horror cult classic

938
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: movie called RoadHead, So basically I'll wow, it just came

939
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: out on Amazon Prime. But it's like a double on

940
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: Tandra obviously for getting heads chopped off and getting your

941
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 3: beep sucked on the road, can I say that? So?

942
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: But when I saw the movie, I was like crying

943
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: at the end because I was like.

944
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 2: We fucking did it. We made it.

945
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 3: Okay movie, but it's like but it's like that doesn't

946
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: like it doesn't happen but all the time. But we

947
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: all came together, no egos, just for the same goal

948
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: and we made even though it's a weird fucking movie,

949
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 3: we made something that like I'm very proud of and

950
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: I'm like I at the premiere afterwards, I had had

951
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 3: like seven tequilas, but I was like, this is what

952
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: I want to keep doing, is like naked these indie

953
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 3: features so cool?

954
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: Do you would I know? You say you right? And

955
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: would you consider directing as well?

956
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, like the show I'm doing with Tammy

957
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 3: with Chelsea Lynn Tammy Bangs, I'm directing and I've directed

958
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: like a few felt like short films. Yeah, and I

959
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: do love directing, but I don't. I don't know, there's

960
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 3: a lot of I can't give up acting. I can't

961
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: give up the acting side thing, can I?

962
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: So this podcast is called Feelsly Failing, And I imagine

963
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: as an actor, you've been to countless auditions and then

964
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: found out that.

965
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: You haven't got the part.

966
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: How do you handle that side of the like the

967
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: more the cutthroat side of the business.

968
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 3: I mean, how do I handle it? Like, I don't

969
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: I don't think that that part ever goes away, you know,

970
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: so little thing like I mean, it's just not putting

971
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 3: the weight on like the end goal of it, you know,

972
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 3: really having to realize that, like it's not a personal thing.

973
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 3: If you don't get a job, it's not like it

974
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that like your hair's thin or your nose

975
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: is crooked, like I've like spun out on all these

976
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: things when it comes to like how I look and

977
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 3: like I'm a very normal looking person. But when you're

978
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 3: in this world of acting, like you can get really

979
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 3: hard on you know, it can get hard and it

980
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 3: can like beat you up.

981
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 2: What's a visual medium like you said, yeah, it's a

982
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: visual medium.

983
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean I don't like but that's the

984
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 3: thing is, like I'm lucky, lucky that I'm like a

985
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: character actor, so I don't have to like look good

986
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: all the time. It's not a you look great though.

987
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: Let's just call a spade a spade. Okay, but I'm

988
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: very assy saying I think, sorry, no, I.

989
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: Know what that means. But also like there's people out

990
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 3: there like Chris Chris Hemsworth or like, yeah, there's people

991
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 3: that are in this game that are the good looking

992
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 3: people that are there to be like to service the

993
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 3: thing of just like oh we want to salivate over

994
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: like these like good looking people. Got it. I don't

995
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: have to carry that weight.

996
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well not well, But also I think, don't you

997
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: also feel like there is a change though, Like I

998
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: know that that he's like the superhero thor but I

999
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: feel like like I'm thirty five and I got told

1000
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: in an acting class, oh well, at thirty eight, you're

1001
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: just going to be cast as a mom. And I

1002
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: was like, oh, oh my god, Like I haven't really confronting,

1003
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: but now that, like you mentioned Sarah Poulsen before, like

1004
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: there is so much more diversity for I think everybody,

1005
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: and I think that's I.

1006
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: Just I don't know totally. It's like they're the stuff

1007
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 3: that's coming out is not just about like good looking

1008
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: twenty five year olds. Yeah, yeah, it's like there and

1009
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: that's good. Like we want to see older people on television.

1010
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 3: We want to see people of different races, we want

1011
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 3: to hear different stories, and you know, I mean yeah,

1012
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 3: And I'm just saying like it acting can be hard

1013
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 3: on how you look like you It can make you

1014
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: question your looks and like all that stuff. Because so

1015
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 3: I just I don't watch myself that much anymore, like

1016
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 3: I never watched things. I don't know if I'm even

1017
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 3: answering your question. Now you talk, I'm nervous, and your

1018
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: coffee like fucked me up. I'm so.

1019
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: I'm so glad to hear that.

1020
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 1: I want to ask also about your own podcast, because

1021
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: I just binged listened to five episodes. You sent me

1022
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: one link and I was like, oh my god, I

1023
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: want to about the brain, but I want to learn

1024
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: about gluen, but I want to hear about the I

1025
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: love the stuff you had with the doctor about vaccination

1026
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: because in Australia there's we didn't get much COVID. I

1027
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: don't know if you know, but like literally where I

1028
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: live Byron Bay near a Hemi near a Hemsworth, you

1029
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: literally go for a surf and you spot a Hem's

1030
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: Worth usually, but I'm in Byron Bay and I think

1031
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: we had one case, like one person got COVID and

1032
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: they quarantined piers. I think we've got some nice little

1033
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: stuff going on outside if you need only slightly, only slightly,

1034
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: But my boyfriend does all the editing, so that one's

1035
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: for you, Matt, you can help me with that. But yes,

1036
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: So when I got vaccinated as soon as I landed

1037
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: here because I wasn't eligible in Australia, they were doing

1038
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: like older people first, and I got so much hate

1039
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: on Instagram for being vaccinated because there's a.

1040
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 2: Lot of vaxes.

1041
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: I will set like I live in silver Lake. Yeah,

1042
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 3: And I didn't realize until I did a little bit

1043
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 3: of traveling that like silver Lake took. We took the

1044
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: virus like more serious than like any fucking like neighborhood.

1045
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 3: Like I know that's not true, but it everyone's double

1046
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 3: masked here. Everyone's like and that's great, that's fine. Like

1047
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 3: I live in this neighborhood. I'm gonna like, I don't

1048
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: want to be the odd man out. That's like not

1049
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: wearing a mask. But I just realized, like, oh wow,

1050
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: we take it very serious here in Los Angeles.

1051
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I love that.

1052
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good.

1053
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1054
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: And as I got fucking vaccinated as soon as I could,

1055
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 3: I was like, give me the vaccine.

1056
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: I got off the plane and I booked in and

1057
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 1: I had it two hours later. Yeah, like from flying

1058
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: from Australia, where I'd tried for weeks to get it

1059
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: and wasn't eligible. But Australia had a thing where they

1060
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: didn't autifize us. So we had a little hiccup with

1061
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: astrazen inca Oh okay, yeah, so it pushed everything out.

1062
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just love about your podcast and how

1063
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: it's all about functional medicine, and I had no idea.

1064
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: I'm a nutritionist by.

1065
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: Tray, I write health books, and so when I learned

1066
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: that you were really into like.

1067
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 3: We got to have you on the put on our podcast.

1068
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love all your stuff.

1069
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: But it's called what the Funk? Yes, and it's really cool.

1070
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 3: So I co host a podcast with Laura Shine, is

1071
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 3: like my best friend and girlfriend I guess, yeah, but

1072
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 3: we you know, we have a very tumultuous really you know,

1073
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 3: working We work together and we sleep together, so it's

1074
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: very like you know, but she her mom basically runs

1075
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 3: the Functional Medicine coaching Academy. Yeah, and the podcast is

1076
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 3: called what the Funk Like f U n C. Me

1077
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 3: and Laura did a play together and she I was

1078
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 3: like literally having arthritis symptoms, like yeah, yeah, like my

1079
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 3: bo he was like flared up. I couldn't walk, the

1080
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 3: bottom of my feet were hurting. I was like depressed.

1081
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: My hair was falling out, and I was I had

1082
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: no idea what was going on. And I met Laura

1083
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: and she was like Laura was like super healthy, paleo,

1084
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 3: didn't sugar and all this stuff. And I just kind

1085
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 3: of like finally confided in her. And I was like,

1086
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 3: my systems out of whack, like I'm only I'm in

1087
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 3: my late thirties. I don't feel like I should be

1088
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 3: falling apart, like I am right, And She's basically like

1089
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 3: have you ever heard of functional medicine? And she became

1090
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 3: my unofficial health coach. How colch and coached me through

1091
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: this whole thing, and like I that's when I like

1092
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 3: went paleo and just cleaned up like my diet and

1093
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 3: my health and literally changed like my body, like my

1094
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 3: arthritis like went away essentially.

1095
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1096
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, because it's an inflammatory situation, you would

1097
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: have cut all in like things that called in out

1098
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: of the diet.

1099
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like I still have like

1100
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 3: I feel like I still have like this like if

1101
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 3: I fall off, it could flare up again. You know

1102
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 3: what I mean? Yeah, I have it under it's like

1103
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 3: controlled now.

1104
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: So cool.

1105
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 3: And then so we started a podcast where the whole

1106
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 3: thing is she's like a health coach. I'm kind of

1107
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: like the dumb dumb that knows nothing, and we get

1108
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 3: to interview like these amazing people, like we interviewed like

1109
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Bland, who's like the founder of functional medicine.

1110
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: So I like, literally my favorite so far is the

1111
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: author of Brainwash. Oh really, That's why I just love brains.

1112
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: I'm really into neuroscience.

1113
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 3: Austin Pearl Mutter, I think, yeah.

1114
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just like this makes such sense and

1115
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: decision making in the way that we kind of like.

1116
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: And I love the way Laura is like, but if

1117
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: I think about the future too much, that gives me anxiety,

1118
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god.

1119
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and so we're I think that we're talking

1120
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 3: about like these things in a very like attainable way.

1121
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 3: It's not like yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. But my

1122
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 3: favorite is the one we just did recently about gray areas. Yes,

1123
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 3: I listened to that, Yeah, gray area drinking. Like I

1124
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: stopped drinking after that podcast.

1125
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: I could like drink in two weeks, so good.

1126
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 3: I was like, because I've never identified like as an alcoholic,

1127
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 3: because I I don't feel like I have a problem

1128
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: with it. Yeah, way, but it's like I don't like

1129
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 3: drinking as much as I do. And something about what

1130
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: she said, just like when.

1131
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: You wake up at three and with the dry math,

1132
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: that's when.

1133
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, you can't sleep. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1134
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 3: You have a few drinks because I look, I love wine.

1135
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 3: I love to drink, and you if you fall asleep

1136
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: and you're like I think, I feel I'm a little

1137
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 3: bit tipsy. I'm going to go to sleep. But then

1138
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 3: you wake up in the middle of the night and

1139
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,959
Speaker 3: you're like your dry mouth, You're like shaking, you can't

1140
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 3: go to sleep, You're tossing and turning your ruins, your sleep.

1141
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 3: So the next day you wake up and I get

1142
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 3: hangovers like a mofo. Oh dude, So anyways, I quit drinking.

1143
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 2: How cool.

1144
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, you have been such a joy to chat

1145
00:54:59,280 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: to my friend.

1146
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put in the show notes.

1147
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: I make sure there's links to your podcast, to all

1148
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: your incredible stuff. I cannot wait to see what comes

1149
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: next for you.

1150
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 3: Having ramble too much?

1151
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: No ramble as much as you like.

1152
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 3: Trust me that we can make one of those videos.

1153
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 3: Let's make video about Australia things, Australian Sean Los Angeles.

1154
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: So many good ones, so many good ones.

1155
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 3: My prains already, like, but the only thing I can

1156
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 3: say is Rise of Blades.

1157
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to city that video clip, so you know

1158
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 2: what it's from.

1159
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 1: It's like an iconic Australian one of the most iconic

1160
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: Australians Australian movies called Muriel's Wedding.

1161
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've heard of the movie. I know

1162
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 3: it's like a.

1163
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 2: Cult.

1164
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Like The Castle and Muriel's Wedding are like

1165
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: the Castle. Send me that one to yeah yeah, but

1166
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: it's the proper Australian like it's really like oh yeah mate,

1167
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: like and rather you know that it's that real nasal

1168
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: and yeah, so fun though.

1169
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend, total honor. You are absolutely wonderful.

1170
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: Every time I see your name, Clayton, I want to

1171
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: say Clayton Ferris because Aussie's would say it that way,

1172
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: but it's Clayton Ferris. And if you have not discovered

1173
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: this wonderful human yet, please jump onto his Instagram.

1174
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 2: You're amazing, my friend.

1175
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 3: You're amazing. Thank you, thank you.

1176
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

1177
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

1178
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo lollaberry. This potty my word

1179
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love

1180
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: it if you could subscribe, rate and comment and of

1181
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: course spread the love