1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: This is the Happy Family's podcast with doctor Justin Coilson, 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: where Luke and Susie our husband and wife radio team 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: with three young boys. This is the podcast for the 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants some answers. 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: Now take my hand, suits, Yeah, that's lovely, because you 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 2: know my love language is physical touch. Yes. So this 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: was a big thing for us when we first started 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: dating because you when we had our first fight, the 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: last thing you wanted to do is, you know, put 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: your hand on my shoulder or do anything. And everything 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 2: I needed was so desperately for you to put your 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: hand on my shoulder and say everything's still okay. And 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: we realized this whole love language thing was big for 14 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: us as trying to form out our relationship. Imagine how 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: important it is for developing little human beings like our kids. 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Do you know your child's love language? It's 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: a big question and we're going to have a look 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: at it with doctor Justin Coulson from Happy Families dot 19 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: Com tod Au. How are you justin? 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: Hello, Susie high work, I'm great? How are you? 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 22 00:00:58,560 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: Really well? Thank you? 23 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: What are your lovely? Yeah? 24 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: What are yours? All of them? 25 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? 26 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: I'm high needs. 27 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: I've always said that. I've always said that doctor Justin Corson. 28 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, mine's a given and it could be anyone on 29 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: any given day. 30 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: Yes, Susie is only one of them, but it changes 31 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: every day. But there's no doubt. Physical touches is my 32 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: number one question about it. 33 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: But we don't often. We got the book for our 34 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: wedding a wedding present, the five Love Languages, but I 35 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: don't know that I have actually applied it to my children. 36 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the book is He a pastor in the 37 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 3: United States. His name is Gary Chapman. Now he doesn't 38 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: have a psychology qualification, and there's a few things as 39 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: a psych guy that I just quite they don't quite 40 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: resonate and work perfectly for me. But I've kind of 41 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: rewritten the love languages a little bit and shifted them 42 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: around a little bit and made them work. I think 43 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: in a way that well, it works better for me, 44 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: and I think works that are psychologically and so basically, 45 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: instead of having these five love languages that he identifies, 46 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: I argue that there are two universal love languages. These 47 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: are the two love languages that every one of us has. 48 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: Whether you're a Luke or a SUSI or Justin or whatever, 49 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: and they are time and understanding. You see, if we 50 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: want our relationships to flourish, we've got to put time 51 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: into them. It's something that I love to share in 52 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: the workshops that I present around the country, is that 53 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: just like dollars are the currency of our economy, attention 54 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: is the currency of our relationship. Yeah. When we have 55 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: a relationship that is falling apart or that is failing, 56 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: quite often we'll find that at the root of it, 57 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: there's insufficient time being put into it. And if our 58 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 3: relationships are not good with our kids, it's simply because 59 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: we're not giving them enough time. The second universal love 60 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: language I think we all have is the love language 61 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: of understanding. We all want to be understood. We want 62 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: to be understood more than we want to be loved. 63 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: We want to be understood, and when we're not, we 64 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: get so upset, we feel so frustrated, we feel completely 65 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: hemmed in and it's like, hang on, you're not listening 66 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: to me. You don't know what I'm saying, you don't 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: know what I'm feeling. And I'll give you example. And 68 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: how bad we are at this is parents. We were 69 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: at an indoor rock climbing center not long ago, and 70 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: my nine year old daughter had climbed to the top 71 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: of the rock wall and she was on an automatic balat. 72 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: So normally, you know, you've got the rope hooked up 73 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: and you've got someone at the bottom, and they delay you. 74 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: That is, they hold the rope so that if you fall, 75 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: you won't do anything. You just sort of swing out 76 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: and go back to the wall and you be safe. 77 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: There's nobody at the bottom for the automatic blay. It 78 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: just the rope rey tracks up into the roof and 79 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: then you let go of the wall and it catches 80 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: you and lowers you back down. And she was at 81 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: the top of this wall and she was freaking out. 82 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: She didn't want to let go because she didn't trust 83 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: that the rope would catch her. As she descended to 84 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: the floor. I was at the bottom saying, Annie, come on, 85 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: it's not that big a deal. Just let go of 86 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: the wall. It'll catch you. It's okay, And she's like that, 87 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: I can't do it. And she was freaking out, and 88 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: I wasn't understanding her particularly well. I mean, I got 89 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: what was going on cognitively, but in my heart, I 90 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: wasn't feeling the fear and the anxiety that she was 91 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: feeling like she was eight meters up this wall too 92 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 3: scared to let go. And finally I said, Annie, I 93 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: know how scary it is for you. I know that 94 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: it's really hard to trust that the rope will catch you, 95 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: but it will. Trust me, it'll work out. Let go, 96 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: And eventually she let go and she came down to 97 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 3: the ground like overa hugen. About ten minutes later, I 98 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: was climbing a different wall and I was on auto ballet. 99 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: I'd never used it before, and I got to the 100 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 3: top and then I realized that I was in exactly 101 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: the same position as Annie. I had to let go, 102 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: and I didn't want to. I was freaking out, let 103 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 3: me tell you. And I had this sudden realization that 104 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: I had not fully understood how Annie was feeling, and 105 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 3: she needed my understanding at that point, and I needed 106 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: some understanding. And I called out to the guy that 107 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: worked so I said, if I let that was just 108 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: going to catch me, and he just laughed and he said, yeah, 109 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 3: do it. And I freaked out and I let go 110 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: and it caught me. But it was a wonderful reminder 111 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: that if we don't know how things are for our children. 112 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: You know, when they're being bullied at school and they're 113 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: really hurting and we say it, suck it up, princess, 114 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: go to school, drink some concrete and harden up. You know, 115 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: when we say that sort of stuff to them, they 116 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: don't feel understood. And it is a universal love language. 117 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 3: We need it, yeah, so that we can so that 118 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: we can function well in our relationships. 119 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: So time and understanding are these universal love languages. There 120 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: are three more in your system of love languages. We're 121 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: going to talk about those next. Doctor Justin Coulson our 122 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: guest from Happy Families dot com dot au, asking the 123 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: question do you know your child's love language? 124 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 4: Are you endlessly nagging, shouting, pleading, threatening and demanding that 125 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 4: your children behave Do you live in a dictatorship where 126 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 4: the kids are in charge? Time out is not? Your 127 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 4: only option? Is an ebook with discipline strategies and ideas 128 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 4: that work, and they work without you carrying a load 129 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: of parental guilt around all day. No more yelling, threatening, 130 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: bribing or time outs. From day one, you'll notice the 131 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 4: difference in your children, and they'll notice the difference in you. 132 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 4: Time art is Not Your Only Option by doctor Justin Coulson, 133 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: Available as an ebook and an audiobook at happy Families 134 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 4: dot com dot au. 135 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: This is the Happy Families podcast with doctor Justin Coulson. 136 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: We are lookin Suzi and this is the podcast for 137 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: time poor parents who just want answers. 138 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: Now and today it's all about our children's love language. 139 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: Now you were talking about Justin about Hey, you've kind 140 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: of reframed the five love languages of Gary Chapman to 141 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: time and understanding being universal. We all need those, but 142 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: there's three more that you have there. Can you explain 143 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: those to us? 144 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 145 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: So they touch me, tell me, show me. The touch 146 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: me is a people like Luke. You know, you just 147 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: crave somebody acknowledging your presence by reaching out and squeezing 148 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: your elbow or putting their arm around your shoulder, or 149 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: holding your hand or giving you a hug. Touch Me's 150 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: love to snuggle in bed and you just lay there 151 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 3: and hold onto one another and go, oh, you know 152 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: this is wonderful. I love you. And our children quite 153 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 3: often will be touch mees as well. They love to 154 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: be acknowledged. They love to feel our presence close to them. 155 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: Then we've got to tell me is these are the 156 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: people who love to be told I love you, you're 157 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: special to me, you're wonderful. And there's a lot of 158 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 3: children who really thrive and really flourish when they get 159 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: that kind of a that kind of verbal acknowledgment that 160 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: they're loved. And of course you know that some kids 161 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: hate that. You know, when you give some kids a 162 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: compliment and tell them how much you love them, and 163 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: they just sort of go or squirmy and squish and say, 164 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: don't say stuff embarrassing. And then there's the show me. 165 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: These are the ones who love it when we give 166 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: them treats and give them gifts and show them by 167 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: doing things for them. And now, like I said earlier, 168 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: some people are really high maintenance, whether they're children or adults, 169 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: and they're all five. Some people are only really just that, 170 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: you know, the two universal ones plus one of those 171 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: other three. But when we can tap in to the 172 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: love languages of our family, whether it's our kids or 173 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: whether it's our spouse or even our mother in law, 174 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: and we can express to them love in the way 175 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 3: that they like it to be expressed to them, it's 176 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: just wonderful for family relationships. 177 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: Our seven year old's been going through a phase justin 178 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: where he's constantly saying to every single day, often multiple 179 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: times a day, you're the best mum ever, and you're 180 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: the best dad ever. I love you. And he's very 181 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: verbal in that, and it makes me think he's in 182 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: that phase of discovering what his own love language is. 183 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: That he's using words, and that's showing us that he 184 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: likes words as well. That's what I'm starting to think 185 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: with this little seven year old who's reaching an age 186 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: of reason. 187 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: And one of the five year olds won't let us 188 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: go without a cuddle and everything. Everything's all about touch 189 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: with him. It's fascinating to see them unravel. What do you, 190 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: Reckon sues The three of them are given, they're all. 191 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: Touch me, He's definitely. They're all very cuddly. Oh no, 192 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: maybe less so Ruyden. But lastly touch me and tell me. 193 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 4: I reckon. 194 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: Rudin's to tell me. Yeah. His eyes light up justin 195 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: when you praise him and when you acknowledge him, when 196 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: you tell him what a wonderful job, he's just eyes 197 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: get big and around. He doesn't necessarily say a lot back, 198 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: but he certainly looks for it. 199 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you'll also notice that people will demonstrate their 200 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: preferred love language by the way that they express love 201 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 3: to others. So if you've got somebody who was always 202 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 3: telling other people how much they love them, they're probably 203 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 3: a tell me. And quite often in marriages at least, 204 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: you'll find that tell me will marry, touch mees or 205 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: show me, and there'll be this incompatibility and the wife 206 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: will say, he never tells me how much he loves me. 207 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: He's always just trying to grab hold of me, drives 208 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: me crazy. And the bloke will be saying, she keeps 209 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: on telling me how much she loves me, but she 210 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: never really shows me by grabbing hold of me. And 211 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: so we need to watch what our spouses and partners 212 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: are doing and what our kids are doing so that 213 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: we can respond the way they seem to express it 214 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: the most, because that will usually be a nice indicator 215 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 3: of what their language of love is. 216 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: No doubt, my dad, the Aussie Mail, grew up as 217 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 2: a show me as far as he was concerned. He 218 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: told us every day he loved it when he worked 219 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: really hard and put food on the table and did 220 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: whatever it needed to do to feed us and to 221 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: house us, and that was his his show me love, 222 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: no question. 223 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then and then we've got to make sure 224 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: that we respond to the to the tell me as 225 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 3: well by saying thank you. They just if you're a 226 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: tell me and you hear gratitude, oh my goodness, it 227 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: just makes everything worthwhile. So good. 228 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: It's good to explore this topic and start to actively 229 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: think about what our children's love languages are so that 230 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: we can make sure they always know that they're in 231 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: a place where they are loved. Doctor Justin Coulson from 232 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: Happy Families dot com todare you always great to catch up. 233 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time. 234 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: Let's do it again soon. 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