1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Here at two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land on which we record 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: this podcast. There were innerie people. This land was never seated, 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: always was always will be. Hello and welcome to two 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Good Sports. It's sports news told differently. 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: I'm Abby Jelmy and if I'm doing the intro, you 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: just know that Georgie Tunney must be absolutely killing the 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: Amazing Race. But I am joined by the amazing Catherine 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: Murphy as a stand in mirth. 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 3: Welcome, Oh thank you for having me in. And Georgie 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: she's got to be winning the Amazing Race. I mean 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: her and Rob even their little fights about how to 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 3: do it would be cute. They should just win the 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 3: cutest couple in Australia race. 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: I was about to say, surely it's a popularity vote 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 2: at one point and they just have to win it anyway. 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: They'll definitely win one percent. I'm just glad to be 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: here while she's off winning. 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: Well, mrth you have to be firstly my Good Sports. 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: So tell us a little bit about yourself. Obviously you're 21 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: the ABC Sports presenter. You've also written a book with 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: Zach Tuohey, so you're across all sport more. But how 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: did you end up being a sports journalist? 24 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 4: Wow? 25 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: That's a crazy I feel like I don't know about you, Abby. 26 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: I feel like it was all I was ever meant 27 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: to do. I remember signing up for journalism in UNI 28 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: and straight away gravitating towards the sports aspect of it. 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: I played a lot of sport in Uni. I played 30 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: Gaelic football really badly, and I was so inferior. I 31 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: just interviewed Aaron Phillips today on News Breakfast, so I'm 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: really aware of how I was never going to make it. 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: You know when you look at someone that really made 34 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: it and you know exactly why you didn't. 35 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: But Aaron Phillips is particularly humbling because she's played basketball 36 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: for Australia and won a silver medal, as well as 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: being one of the greatest, if not the greatest, in 38 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: my mind AFLW player that we've ever seen. 39 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 4: So she's a duel code star. 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: So no wonder You're like, Okay, could I just have 41 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: had one? 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: Do you look at her and you feel so inferior athletically? 43 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: And I always think when I'm talking to amazing athletes 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: like that, God, I need to go to the gym 45 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: or do you close with health? 46 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you have that thought process? 47 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: We work with athletes all the time. Ob you just 48 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 2: look at them and I go, I just believe you're 49 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: better than me. Oh yeah, like I just believe you're 50 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: better than me in all aspects. And Aaron is one 51 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 2: of those ones that I've been so lucky to work 52 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: with in commentary. Not only is she delightful, but she 53 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 2: does have that glow of like not many toxins into 54 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: my body. 55 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 4: Oh my god, exactly her guns. 56 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, I need to go to the gym, I 57 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: need to lift things, I need to go outside. 58 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 4: And she's just the nicest. 59 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, if you tested us for toxins right now, let's 60 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: not go there. 61 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 4: But she is amazing. 62 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 3: Honestly, if I told you what I had for breakfast alone, 63 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 3: you be horrified. I think I had chocolate for breakfast 64 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: because they get a bred me. I know when they 65 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 3: don't give you breakfast and you're so hungry by nine 66 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: am and it's your lunchtime that I have been known 67 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: to eat terrible things by nine am, which Aaron Phillips 68 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 3: would never do. But yeah, so failed Gaelic footballer but 69 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: always loved sport, and as soon as I got into 70 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 3: my course, I knew it was going to be sport. 71 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: And I ended up getting a tour of a TV station. 72 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 3: My cousin worked there, so a bit of nepotism got 73 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: me in the door for that day. She was just 74 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 3: showing me around the TV channel, and I remember thinking, Abby, 75 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 3: TV is so fun, Like I was just straight away 76 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: transfixed by the cam you see on TV and the 77 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: chaos behind the scenes, and I love chaos, and I 78 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: just loved the chaotic nature of it, the deadlines, the adrenaline. 79 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: I started as a producer, I didn't know if i'd 80 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: ever do on camera stuff, and yeah, started there, so 81 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: I kind of feel like I always knew just because 82 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: of that day, kind of that you have in your 83 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: life where you just all of a sudden, you know. 84 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: Well, that's beautiful firstly, and it's amazing that you've been 85 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: able to forge your career for yourself as well. And 86 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: you are our favorite, your Georgie's favorite as well, You're. 87 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 3: My favorites, and I just love that you're are offsiders 88 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: Hostle Abby. When I got that news, and I got 89 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: it earlier than I should have, I did. 90 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: Before my parents just quiet, like they told me I 91 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to tell a soul and Murphy just sends 92 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: me a sly text being like, I don't know, but 93 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: if you know that, we know that, I know that 94 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: you know. 95 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: And I was like, wait what, I'm not going to 96 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 4: tell anyone. I had to do an investigation. And you're 97 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: a real journalist. 98 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: You're sometimes when I really want to know something. And 99 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: I was so delighted when I heard it that I 100 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: did try not to message you, and the person who 101 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: told me warned me enough to message you, but I 102 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: had to message you because we're so lucky to have you, 103 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: and I can't wait to be on the show. 104 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 4: Sometimes soon as I say when are we getting you back, 105 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 4: I'm going to happen. I'm feeling like it's personal. You 106 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: haven't look you're more of a Kelly goal I get it. 107 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I am dying to come on the show. 108 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: And it's going to happen very soon, I promise. 109 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: And one of the topics that we need to talk 110 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: about this year is rugby, which is going to be 111 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: a major not. 112 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 4: Rugby league, rugby union. 113 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: And there are some people that you have to discern 114 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: that we're talking about the Wallabies. We're talking about the 115 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: British Irish Lines tour. But as a listener of the podcast, 116 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: you will know that we do a good sport off 117 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: the top or a bad sport, and I'm going to 118 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 2: lob up my bad sport as every account that designers 119 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: to do an April Fool's post, because they got me. 120 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 4: They got me, Murph in a real way. 121 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: So as you well know, we do stories throughout the 122 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: week for offsiders that we try to keep an eye 123 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: across all things. 124 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 4: I sent a message to Danny, my producer. Yes we 125 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 4: love Danny. 126 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: Simply just a screenshot of this exclusive DCE to sign 127 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: a bombshell contract with the Reds Wallaby's debut for Bledisloe 128 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: Cup looms. 129 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: Oh it Dane. 130 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: He was going to do a five year contract with 131 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: one point four million dollars and I've screenshot it and 132 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: said part of my French but holy shit. 133 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: Honestly, do you know what really got me is on 134 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 3: the day I was very aware that there was going 135 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: to be a lot of pranks online. 136 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 4: I didn't know what date it is. I don't know 137 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 4: what date is any day, but. 138 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: The problem is on April second, because of the algorithm, 139 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: a lot of them. 140 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 4: Obviously they get most pushed up. 141 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: Yes, so they're coming into your algorithm on April second, 142 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 3: and I got caught really bad because I just finished 143 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: News Breakfast. It's nine o'clock and your biggest fear is, well, 144 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: your biggest fears. 145 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: That you sleep in and you're not even there. 146 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 3: But second biggest fear is that you miss something big 147 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 3: when you're busy and it's really hard to always be 148 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: across everything all of the time. So I opened my 149 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 3: phone at nine am and I see a post that 150 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 3: former Wallabies coach Eddie Jones has been appointed the Welsh 151 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: national coach and I shrieked because it's believable. I mean, 152 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: I'm still traumatized from when he was doing those zooms 153 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: with Japan, so like, I'm ripe for the pecking. So 154 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 3: when I saw that, I almost died. I was like, here, 155 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 3: I am. I love covering Rugby, want to do more 156 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: of it on News Breakfast, and I've missed the fact Eddie. 157 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 4: Jones is now coach of Wales. 158 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: Figured out shortly after it he is not just to emphasize, 159 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: but yeah, that is the worst. 160 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: Well, let's lean in now to our main discussion then, 161 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: because we mentioned if we're talking about coaching, we're talking 162 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: about Wallabies. We are still waiting to find out who 163 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: is going to be the Wallabies coach, especially looking forward 164 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: to a World Cup that we have in twenty twenty seven, 165 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: and they're calling this the golden decade of rugby events 166 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: that we're going to have in Australia. 167 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 4: Leading stop it. 168 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: Even the phrase is a little bit triggering after everything 169 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,119 Speaker 3: that's happened. For sure, we're going into the good years now. Sorry, 170 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: well it's been the best any therapy, this will be 171 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: like rugby therapy. 172 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 4: Well that's maybe it will be. 173 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: And that's why we always talk we I mean, did 174 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: the Rebels expose last year on what exactly had happened 175 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: there and you mentioned Eddie Jones and the saga that 176 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: that was. It feels like rugby in Australia has been 177 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: wading through the murky waters and has finally found its 178 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: way into the light because things are happening. We've got 179 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: all four of the Australian Super Rugby teams in the 180 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: top six, we have the Reds on top of the 181 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: table for the first time in twelve years. All these 182 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: positive things are happening, but we just need to know 183 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: who this new coach is going to be. 184 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 4: We are going to know. 185 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: I literally say any minute now. Was expected that it 186 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: would be today or tomorrow. I'd love that not to 187 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: happen today. We're but I'm keeping an eye on my phone. 188 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 3: We now don't think it will be today or tomorrow, 189 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: and more likely early next week. I would say right now, 190 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: as we said here, Les Kiss, the Queensland Rad's coach, 191 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: is well and truely the man for the job. But 192 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: it's not a done deal. Nothing's been signed. There's a 193 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 3: lot going on behind the scenes, a lot going on. 194 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: For example, Stu Lancaster, who was with England, He's also 195 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: worked in Ireland, he's worked with Joe Schmidt before. His 196 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: name is suddenly in the mix. Now I can't see 197 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: a former English coach getting that role, but I could 198 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: see him potentially taking over the Reds job if Les 199 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: Kiss leaves, assuming that gets done. But there's a lot 200 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: going on behind the scenes, and it was actually, wait 201 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: for it, a genuinely extensive process and I understand in 202 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: huge breaking news all of those who applied for it 203 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: are actually happy with the process. So what I mean, 204 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 3: it's a long way from a glass of Chabblis with 205 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: Eddie Jones and let's just say that's how that got done. 206 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: So we're actually doing sports governance in rugby. 207 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: There's a process and Oliver which Philbore is one. 208 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: Of them, and there was more than two meetings. I 209 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: understand with each applicant and they're all happy. I understand 210 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: with the process. As we says here right now, it 211 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: looks like it's Les Kiss, but there's a lot going 212 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: on behind the scenes, so we won't know until we know, 213 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: but we would expect it to happen next week. 214 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 4: I mean. 215 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: The problem being Joe Schmidt, who obviously is an incredible coach, 216 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: and he put his own hand up and said, look, 217 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: I'm happy to be basically the caretaker for this period. 218 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 4: But I've got family comments. 219 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: He's spoken openly about his son having disabilities and needing 220 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: to care intend for him. So we have absolutely loved 221 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: his tenure and seeing what he's done with the Wallabies. 222 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 2: The problem being Joe said he's not doing any media 223 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: until the new coach is announced, so you've got this 224 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: gap in being able to promote what's going to be 225 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 2: such an incredible tour in terms of the British and 226 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: Irish Lions tour, which is only eighty days away, Murphy, 227 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: if you can believe it. 228 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I feel like I know why Joe was 229 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 4: doing that, but I want to have to foot the questions. 230 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I haven't spoken to Joe. But from the outside, 231 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: look at this. The names that are ultimately looking to 232 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 3: be successful out of this whole process, Les Kiss, Stu 233 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 3: Lancaster may be getting a role somewhere. These are guys 234 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 3: that Joe Schmidt has worked with and it's becoming really 235 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: clear that Rugby Australias still want Joe involved. What's going 236 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: to be interesting is if he is involved, what exactly 237 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: is the title? Could it even be a director of rugby? 238 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: Surely not because he wants to beg himself in New Zealand. 239 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: Will he be a high level consultant? I do hope 240 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: he's involved in some way because I worry about him 241 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 3: being completely unattached to the Wallabies back in New Zealand. 242 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: He's already worked with the All Blacks. We can't have 243 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: that ip. No, we're going over to New Zealand. Hi 244 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: to Alista, the producer of this podcast, who's from New Zealand. 245 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: I just had to throw that out there, so we 246 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: can't lose that IP. We've already lost a lot of IP. 247 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 3: So David Nusiphora is a name that not all of 248 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: our listeners will have heard of. He is from Canberra, 249 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: he moved to Ireland to Dublin. He's set up all 250 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: of the structures that ensure the Irish rugby team made 251 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: it to number one in the world. Now, can I 252 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 3: just say you're not number one unless you win the. 253 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 4: Rugby World Cup. It's just a ranking, doesn't matter as much. 254 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 4: But much like world football, the World Cup is the 255 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: beyond end. 256 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 3: Or exactly, and Ireland unfortunately haven't been past the quarterfinals. 257 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: We're not discussing that your listeners. 258 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: Murphy just looked to the ground like it was solemn 259 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: and that she couldn't believe that she had to admit to. 260 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: Because if I don't admit it, people will point it 261 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: out to me in social media. So David usafora set 262 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: up those structures. Then Rugby Australia managed to get him 263 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: on board as a consultant in the new high performance 264 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: unit which is now in place. Guess what he's working 265 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 3: with the British and Irish Lions. And everyone was saying 266 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: don't worry about it because he was just helping with 267 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 3: some contracting. You don't go into a governing body and 268 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: just help with some contracting. You get a lot of 269 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 3: I and now he is on the opposition side. So 270 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 3: from that point of view, I hope we keep Joe 271 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 3: Schmidt in some form, but it's going to be interesting 272 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: to see what that is. Will the new coach have 273 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 3: the final say, will he be a consultant? That's if 274 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 3: it is Les Kiss and did that deter other applicants 275 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: like Stephen Larkham, who is definitely in the mix. 276 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: I name that Australian rugby fans immediately feel comfortable. 277 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 3: With exactly, and so they should because if you look 278 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: at the Brumbi's and they just are excellence personified. 279 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 4: They're always successful. 280 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: So they're fourth on the ladder at the moment, it's 281 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: so tight with the Reds and number one. 282 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 4: Stop the count. Let's end soup. Yeah, everyone press the buzzer. 283 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: Let's just leave it with all Australians in the top 284 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: six because it just doesn't happen. 285 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: It doesn't, and you know why it's happening, Abby, Yes, 286 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: all the best players are now condensed into four sides. Boy, 287 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 3: we'd loss of rebels exactly. Four great coaches. That for 288 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: me is the reason we're seeing such great performances. And 289 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 3: to have four great super rugby coachus means we'll probably 290 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: have a great Wallabyes side because they're the ones coaching 291 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: the players all year before they get handed over to 292 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: Joe Schmidt. So that's really important. There's no side that's 293 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: kind of dragging players down. 294 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: That was something that Eddie Jones spoke to when he 295 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: was sort of listing the issues as to why the 296 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: Wallabies were supposedly not performing. As he said that we 297 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: don't have enough control over what these players are doing 298 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: at club level. But if the club level has all 299 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: lifted and the standard ass all lifted, and as you said, 300 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: they've all got a leak coaching, all of a sudden 301 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: you find those feeder systems which are so important to 302 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: how we perform at a national level, are starting to 303 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: meet the mark. And I just I think when you've 304 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: got such an important tour coming up, those players that 305 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: are vying for a Wallaby's position, even though you'd like 306 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: to bring your best every week, they just find a 307 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: different gear mouth. 308 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 3: Oh totally, And you're so right about just the standard 309 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: being lifted in every site, like look at the Western 310 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: Forest just barely losing to the Reds. 311 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 4: They've had to win over the Brombies. 312 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: That's good coaching across the board in Australia and we 313 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: need it this year, we really do. 314 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: You mentioned see the Western Forest, they're one of the 315 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: teams that have collapsed. They're not collapse and Twiggy Forests 316 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: came in. We've seen so many different iterations of Super Rugby, 317 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: which is now the Super Rugby Pacific, and we know 318 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: it's difficult to garner attention in the Australian sporting landscape, 319 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: particularly when this is a Pacific competition, so you're not 320 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: guaranteed to have an Australian team doing well or certainly 321 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: winning the competition. How important is it for the Wallabies 322 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: to hit this golden era with momentum and really capitalize 323 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: a home World Cup. This is meant to bring two 324 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: billion dollars of revenue to Australia with the amount of 325 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: people that we're expecting to see travel and again you 326 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: think they're twenty twenty Seven's that far away? It's really not. 327 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: And that will all springboard off this British and Irish 328 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: lines tour Marv growing up like, of course everyone in 329 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: our house had a Wallaby's guernsey. Everyone like it was 330 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: something that was you know, everyone loved George Gregan, like 331 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: you had household names as part of that Wallaby's fold. 332 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: And in one generation or less than in a couple 333 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,359 Speaker 2: of decades, that fight for relevance has never been more important. 334 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: But I just feel like this could be it. And 335 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: with names that Joseph Kuso Suali, you playing so well 336 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: and doing that massive jump from codes, You've got like 337 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: an origin star that decides no, I'm going to play 338 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: for the war Retars and for the Wallabies. I just 339 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: feel like there's a genuine momentum shift and it's so exciting. 340 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what, it makes me sad to 341 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 3: hear you talk about your family all having Wallabies jerseys 342 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: because I did. That's so unbelievable to me, because that's 343 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: what I thought as an Irish rugby fan. I thought 344 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: I was moving to the center of the universe when 345 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: it came to Rogby, because super Rugby when I first 346 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: moved here in two thousand and six, was the envy 347 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: of the world. I soon started to find out, particularly 348 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: in Melbourne that rugby players were not recognizable, even Wallaby's players. 349 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 3: I remember being in a chemist really early days and 350 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 3: watching a couple of Wallabies players order anti inflammatories at 351 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 3: the counter and I was like, I felt like going on, going, guys, keep. 352 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 4: It down, I know you're injured. 353 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 3: And then I realized no one else in the chemist 354 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: knew they were, including the guys handing out the prescriptions, 355 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 3: so they were fine to hide their injuries and playing 356 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 3: sight and that really shocked me. 357 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 4: And how far rugby did fall. 358 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 3: Like you say, there is a huge opportunity, So Australian 359 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: rugby has had all this money before, but they clearly 360 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: haven't used it. Well you mentioned Joseph Suleihi, I mean, wow, 361 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: he is so impressive, the global nature of fascination in him. 362 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: I was really struck by it when he went over 363 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 3: on the spring tour and obviously had that player of 364 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: the match performance against England and him going to Dublin 365 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: and I beating England. 366 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 4: Oh, how good? Like it was almost fairy tale stuff. 367 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: Fair right, No, but you always do as Australia have 368 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 3: the right to beat England. And I find it really 369 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 3: funny to watch a play out It's absolutely one of 370 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 3: the biggest rival time. 371 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: Surely he was a player of the Test, which is just. 372 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 3: Incredible, incredible and unbelievably. Then when I was heading back 373 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 3: to Ireland for the Test in Dublin, my dad was 374 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 3: asking about Joseph. My dad was obsessed and I'm like, 375 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 3: because Irish people are really, you know, hardcore rugby fans 376 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 3: and just seeing that, I was like, this is amazing 377 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: to have a name that is bringing that attention to 378 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: the sport. One thing I really love about Joseph when 379 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 3: I watch him is I feel like he really loves 380 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: rugby union. Remember his face when he walked out onto 381 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 3: twicken and he smiled up at the crowd and then 382 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 3: he talked about but this is what I've been. 383 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 4: Saying all along. I love it. My dad brought me 384 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: to Wallaby's matches when I was a toddler. 385 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: He talked about his dad taking to him a game 386 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: where they played Samoa and he was like, for my 387 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: whole life, Like, you know, Unions sort of been what 388 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to do. Because there has been that speculation 389 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: his contract is meant to be with options that he 390 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: can opt into up to and over nine million dollars 391 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: for five years and that money just simply isn't available 392 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: to you if you are going to stay in rugby league. 393 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: So a lot of people thought this was a cash 394 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: grab and that maybe he jumped codes because of the 395 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: money that was on offer, whereas he's very quickly proved 396 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: also how level headed, such a lovely young man that 397 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: he can be. 398 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 4: But he's just like, I wouldn't move unless. 399 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: I loved it, and you can see that radiating off him, 400 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 2: and even the fact when he was injured for the 401 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 2: war retars he went and watched the women's side and 402 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 2: sat with the injured women. Like there's that level of 403 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: just good personness for wander a better word about him 404 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: that I think is so important because you need people 405 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: Alaya George Greens where people want to go and buy 406 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: their guernsey and people want to buy Sulei EA's jumper, 407 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: and that's really cool. 408 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 3: People want heroes and they also want villains. It's okay 409 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: to have villains as well, but we need them. We 410 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 3: need villains. We need heroes, like every one of them, 411 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: even though though they're so bloody nights. Whenever I meet 412 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: when I'm like stop making me, like you just stop it. 413 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 4: I don't want to have these feet, so please or 414 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 4: thank you, just sit down. 415 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 3: I know. Oh and speaking of Joseph Sueley and the 416 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 3: roosters of you talked about April fool ranks for this, 417 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 3: oh what he did to So they set up a 418 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 3: chat with him, and Dan mckellor's his coach at the Wartouse, 419 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 3: secretly filmed him walking up. Don't know how he kept 420 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: his straight face saying, hey Dan, listen, just another thing, 421 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 3: what do you want me to work on this week? 422 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: And then just another thing. I've been talking to the roosters. 423 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 3: I'm going back there next year. 424 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 425 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 3: Also one more thing. I'm not sure I was gonna 426 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: tell you, but I've been speaking to the roosters. I 427 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: think I'm going back there next year. 428 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: Serious. 429 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know how I was on, I 430 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 3: tell you, but yeah, I'm not here. I didn't know 431 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 3: I was an ador, but I just wanted to. 432 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: So this is the multi multi multi million dollar man 433 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: speaking to his head coach, and you just say to 434 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 2: mkella like he goes white, like he genuinely bought every 435 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 2: second of it. 436 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 4: That got me as well. I'm not built for April 437 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 4: fools Day's stone. 438 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: No, I messaged down mccallar and was like, how did 439 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: you not tell him to guest? Yeah, he said he 440 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: was in so much shock for those few seconds when 441 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 3: he believed it. 442 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 4: He was just like stunned. 443 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 3: It's actually the best egg Bril fools prank that I've seen. 444 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: So we've got our hero, We've obviously got our semi 445 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: got an idea for who our coach will be, but 446 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 2: we're just waiting to find out whether he is going 447 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 2: to be less kids. 448 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 4: So the pieces are falling into place. 449 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: But when we look at this Wallaby side, what would 450 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: be a pass mark for the British and Irish Lines 451 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: tour Because and to give people context for what this 452 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 2: is because it has been twelve years, so some people 453 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: I go, what are they on about? The first game 454 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: is on June twenty first, it's nine games across six cities. 455 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit more about what this tourism, 456 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: why it's so special. 457 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 3: So it is so special because in the Northern Hemisphere. Okay, 458 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: so for anyone who doesn't know, the team is selected 459 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 3: from Ireland, England, Scotland and Wales. The best players from 460 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: those four nations get selected for the Lions Tour. Andy Farrell, 461 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 3: who's the Irish rugby coach, is the head coach of 462 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 3: the British and Irish Lions. It is hard to explain 463 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: what an honor it is for a player to be 464 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 3: selected for the Lions tour. You're either a Lions player 465 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 3: or you never were. And that's how I'm hearing it 466 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 3: being talked about because Andy Farrell has announced his assistant 467 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 3: coaches and even to hear the emotion of the assistance, 468 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: it sounds life changing to get to go on this tour. 469 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 3: And that, my friend, is where the problem arises for 470 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: the Wall because you're not just playing the best of 471 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 3: four nations, right, And look to put that into context, 472 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 3: I mean, Ireland only has what five million people are 473 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 3: so and rugby's like the fourth most popular sport. But 474 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: in Ireland the market isn't as saturated, so it's really big. 475 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 4: So you're not only playing against the best. When you 476 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 4: get the. 477 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: Best together, those guys are desperate to play because they 478 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 3: want to say they played in Alliance Test and when 479 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 3: they get in that jersey, that coveted jersey, they want 480 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 3: to stay in it. So you're talking about highly motivated 481 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: individuals who aren't just like on the tour. They are 482 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 3: desperate to stay in the side and that is so 483 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: difficult for really in this Wallabies era of Joe Schmidt 484 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 3: and what he's done in such a short space of time, 485 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 3: that is not easy. That is an absolutely massive challenge, 486 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: and of course they'll do it. They look ahead to 487 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 3: that and just think. I think there's so many positives 488 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: because of the super rugby performances that win a Twickenham abby. 489 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: That was really. 490 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 3: Important because there were certain former lines players who were 491 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: talking down the Wallabies and saying the British and Irish 492 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 3: lines shouldn't tour to Australia like they do every twelve years, 493 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 3: they should skip it and go back to South Africa. 494 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 3: That was really offensive to everybody, but I think it 495 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: really helped the Wallabies beat England because it was the 496 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: English former players that were saying that you. 497 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 2: Didn't hear that was the shock jock, Like, what are 498 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 2: they saying? Just to make theirs and ruffles and feathers, and. 499 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: They did the Wallabies a favor. You notice that none 500 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 3: of the Irish former lines said that because they're all 501 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 3: friends with Joe schmidten They love, genuinely have a great 502 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 3: relationship with Australia. So that win over England after what 503 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 3: was said, that is really important. 504 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, they made them pay where it matters. Yeah, they 505 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 4: made them pay in a pack twicken them. 506 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: Oh and it's just one of those things that I 507 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: think when you were talking about the British Irish Lines tour, 508 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: there for me the only thing I could like in 509 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 2: it too, potentially in Australian sport, even though it wasn't 510 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 2: at a national level. It's like State of Origin, how 511 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: coveted it is. And when those plays, when the best 512 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: of the best come from different teams together, they lift 513 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: again because there's almost this caliber of greatness. 514 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and horrid to believe. 515 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 3: Joseph Suwele he played State of Origin as well, Like 516 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: it's just it's wild to think of how young he 517 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: is and how many experiences he's had. 518 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: So what are your hopes again? Firstly, when you've got 519 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: to watch this, what Guernsey are you wearing? This is 520 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 2: the real question, Murphy. 521 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 4: That's a really tough one. Abby. 522 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 3: And I love my job. I love living in Australia. 523 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 3: I love paying my bills. Joking aside, I really love 524 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 3: I just love not being unemployed. 525 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 4: It's great. 526 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 3: It's just so handy cost of living doing a grocery shop. 527 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 3: But I do love the Wallabies, and you know what. 528 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 4: It was, you don't have to by the way I 529 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 4: actually mean it. 530 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 3: And it was a really weird time in Dublin when 531 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 3: I went home because this the Wallabies playing Ireland on 532 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 3: the Spring tour last year and I went along and honestly, 533 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 3: the Wallabies are such a good group of guys to 534 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 3: deal with. 535 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 4: They always have been as a rule. They're just delightful. 536 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: I remember when I was doing my internship at Fox Sports, 537 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,479 Speaker 2: I went to an NRL press conference and the guy 538 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 2: basically grunted and was terrifying. 539 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 4: And then I went to the Union one and the. 540 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: Guy was like, oh, you must be new here, hello, 541 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 2: and like introduced himself to everyone at the press back, 542 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: made sure everyone had waters. And I was like, well, 543 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 2: this is just a different caliber of person. But they 544 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: tend to be like that, don't they. 545 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 4: The Wallabies just are so good. 546 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and to the point where, even when I'm in 547 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: Dublin covering them and the Irish they're playing the Irish team, 548 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 3: I so want them to do well, and you know, 549 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 3: Irish people want them to do well because when I 550 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 3: even admitted or I just broke down and told my 551 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 3: family I was having these feelings about the Wallabies that 552 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: I wanted them to do well against Ireland. And you 553 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 3: know what, all my family and friends were like, everyone 554 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 3: wants them to. 555 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: Chat. 556 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 4: It's like, guys, I've got something to admit now. You're 557 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 4: very conflicted, so confused. You've got to help me with this. 558 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: So when I talk to rugby fans in Ireland, the 559 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 3: reality is globally, everyone wants the Wallabies to be successful 560 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 3: because for rugby to be successful globally, Australia needs to 561 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 3: be great again and it hasn't been. And that's why 562 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 3: everyone voted for Australia to get the World Cup because 563 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 3: they want to help Australia rebuild and that's why Australia 564 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 3: has this big opportunity. And yeah, the Wallaby is just 565 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 3: great to deal with. So when it comes to the 566 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: British and Irish lines, it's tough. But I really want 567 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 3: the Wallabies to do well and I wanted to be 568 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 3: highly competitive. That it's the most important thing because British 569 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 3: and Irish Lions tours are famed for their competitiveness, so 570 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 3: we really needed to be competitive and I actually think, 571 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 3: and it's the first time that I've been able to 572 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: let myself think this. 573 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 4: I think it can be. 574 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 3: It's going to be difficult, but I think with the 575 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 3: way or Super Rugby sides are going, I think Australia 576 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: can be really competitive. 577 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: I feel like we need to leave it there because 578 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 2: it's just such a positive note to end on. And 579 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: we've spoken about a lot on this podcast and that 580 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: there's been so many turbulent times with the Eddie Jones 581 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 2: as you mentioned, like is he meeting with Japan? Is 582 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: he not going to surprise he's actually going to Japan? 583 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: Who knew everyone knew, And also just knowing what a 584 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: struggling time it's been for Super Rugby with especially with 585 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: the rebels being dissolved and how many people were heard 586 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: in that process. It's just to hear that hope and 587 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 2: that very informed hope that you have for what rugby 588 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: can be in Australia in the next twelve months, in 589 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: the next you know, leading up to the Games in Brisbane, 590 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 2: they want the Sevens to be the opening there's rumors 591 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: that the Sevens are going to be the very first competition. 592 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: Can you imagine what that would be like? In a 593 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: new stadium in Brisbane. 594 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: Wow, just amazing, and I should mention as well while 595 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: i'm here, just really quickly women's rugby, oh okay, only 596 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: four levi yeah is in Greek incredible and SEVENS just 597 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: has that platform. But in Super Rugby for women's abbe 598 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 3: only four rounds, we don't have any time to learn 599 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: their stories. It's not breaking through. It's so far behind 600 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 3: the NRL. Wow that women's competition and state of origin. 601 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 3: Kudos to them. They are leading the way giving the 602 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: NRL women a state of origin. So they're leading AFLW 603 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: so far ahead. 604 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: That even the women's team being part of the exhibition 605 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: they had in Vegas, Oh that was so good. So 606 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: they're thinking about putting women on that platform. Because you're 607 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: right when you talk about the domestic competition for women's rugby, 608 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 2: I'm ashamed to say I'm just wait when. 609 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 3: It hasn't had any breakthrough, and that's because it's only 610 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 3: four rounds and they really need to invest in it. 611 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: They need to make it a longer season so that 612 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: we can follow the stories just like we do the 613 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 3: men's competition. So there's a long way to go in 614 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 3: Super Rugby for women and shout out to Obviously the 615 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: Melbourne Rebels had a women's side as well, and it's 616 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 3: now gone too. So that's the only thing I want 617 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: to caveat all of this positivity with that there is 618 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: work to be done in women's rugby. 619 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: And arguably more of a chasm than we see in 620 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: most of our domestic codes between the men's and the women's. 621 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely, yes, yeah, But other than that, it is it's 622 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 3: an exciting time. Got a year ahead, what a couple 623 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 3: of years ahead? 624 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 4: I'm going to I'm going to find a Guernsy. More 625 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 4: of what I'm going to find a photo of me 626 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 4: wearing a gunsy, please do. And I think that's where 627 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 4: we want to come back to. 628 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: Is we just implore Australians or anyone listening just to 629 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: get behind rugby. 630 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: Yeah it's going to be and a. 631 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: Promise that if you do invest in some kit, in 632 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: some memorabilia, you are going to get cost per way 633 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: down over the next ten years with the amount of 634 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: tours and the amount of excitement that we have going on. Murph, Firstly, 635 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: we love that chat, thank you, and we love talking rugby. 636 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 4: I knew that you were the perfect woman for it. 637 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 4: But you've got a fun fact for us to round 638 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 4: this out. 639 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 3: I have a fun fact that was inspired by your 640 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 3: last episode, which was brilliant by the way, So you 641 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 3: samboled oh's brilliant. 642 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 4: You've met him. 643 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 3: You're talking about how you've met him professionally and this 644 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 3: is all great, and he did the rounds and media. 645 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 3: I recall the time I met him in a very 646 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 3: different situation. So this was years ago, Abby and my 647 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 3: friend was living in Australia for a few months at 648 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 3: the time, and she doesn't know anything about sport. A 649 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 3: lot of my friends don't. I mean, what are they 650 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: doing with their lives? 651 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 4: I don't know. I only see them when there's no 652 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 4: sport on. I'm surprised that you have anything in common 653 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 4: with them. But that's fine. 654 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was that girlfriend that you need to call 655 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: like well, also, even you feel like, especially when rugby 656 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: is your sport, you still need to start podcasts like 657 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: this where people love sport by going union league, different things. 658 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 4: You still need to have that conversation. So it's very 659 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 4: much a thing totally. 660 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 3: So this friend of mine, Amri has, I thought she 661 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: had very little idea of sport, but I was about 662 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: to find. 663 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 4: Out ry by the way. 664 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, Amory, she lives back in Ireland and so 665 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 3: we can talk about this freely. So I said to her, 666 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: you've got her. When you're in Sydney, go to Opera Bar. 667 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 3: It's just stunning. I know it's a cliche, but like 668 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: having a drink there is just the best. 669 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: And if anyone hasn't been to Opera Bar, it is 670 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: the single most picturesque spot you eat. 671 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,239 Speaker 4: Very good friend for recommending it. 672 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: It's literally at the bottom of the Opera House, but 673 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 2: you're looking back onto the Sydney Harbor, so. 674 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 4: You've got the bridge. 675 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 2: It's just spectacular on a beautiful day. It's arguably the 676 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: most pristine spot in the country. It's different or one 677 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: of the most. 678 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: If it's not the most beautiful bar in the world, 679 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 3: I don't know if I can think of what the 680 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: most beauty for publics, that's a good one. 681 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 4: We're happy to go on a junket if anyone wants 682 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 4: to try. 683 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 3: I'm there, So Amory I send her there. Of course 684 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 3: I'm late, because I always am, not for work but 685 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 3: for everything else in life. And I text her ands 686 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 3: out on my way and she said it's too busy, 687 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 3: we're going to have to leave, and I said, no, 688 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 3: it's worth it. We'll get a table. So then she 689 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 3: calls me and says, I've actually got a table with 690 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: two guys who were kinded of is gone to let 691 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 3: me sit on the end of their table. And oh, 692 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 3: that's so good, I think. I said, I'll get the drinks, 693 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 3: you just hold the table. 694 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 4: Which is another that's an Olympic sport. Trying to line 695 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 4: up for the d that's a whole different takes a 696 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 4: long time. I come back. Guess who she had asked 697 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 4: to sit in the end of the table. What do 698 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 4: you even ask him? Not the friend, you say, bold, She. 699 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 3: Didn't recognize the fastest man on the planet. So when 700 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 3: I woke up to the table, this is years ago, maybe. 701 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 4: Still in his prime. He's still Oh he's a ragining 702 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 4: Olympic champion. 703 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 3: I don't think he's got to his central coastmar in 704 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 3: his face that you discussed yet. And I walk up 705 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 3: to the table and I look at him, and he 706 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 3: looks at me, and. 707 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 4: I was sports jo, and you're just like. 708 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 3: Wide eyed, and he immediately realizes that, of course I 709 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 3: know who he is. 710 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 4: And you've got. 711 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 3: And He's like, I know, she knows, she knows, I know, 712 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 3: but anything. So I just went a Marie, I can't 713 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 3: believe you find this kind man to help us get 714 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 3: a table. Thank you, kind stranger. And I sat down 715 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 3: drinking my drink looking at him. So there was music on. 716 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 3: We all have a bit of a dance. Then everyone 717 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: starts to see it's use same bold and from the 718 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 3: top deck. Yeah, and my friend's like, sir, what So 719 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 3: we had to leave because everyone else except my friend. 720 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 4: Amrie knew who he was. 721 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: The end, I just you know what, you just would 722 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: give anything to be a fly on the wall. 723 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 4: Have you been all right? We've got ric. 724 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: And how much were you eyeing just to have a 725 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: cone of science between you and your friend to be like, 726 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: by the way, arguably the greatest athlete of all time. 727 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. 728 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 3: And I also, before I would even tell her, I'd 729 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 3: be like, how do you know? Do you just not 730 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 3: watch regularly news or are you just shut off from society? 731 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 4: What happened to you, Amory? That's what I would have asked. 732 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 4: Do you live in a vacuum? Yeah? She couldn't believe 733 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 4: it when he was gone, that's amazing. 734 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 2: Well, I would also love to hear her rendition of 735 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 2: that story and just whether or not his face was like, yeah, 736 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 2: well you want to sit on the end of you 737 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: with any general publications you don't want probably asking for 738 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: a photo like hi Sarah and he's like yeah, all right, 739 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: get the phone out and she's like no, can I 740 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 2: just sit? 741 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah? Do you know what? 742 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 3: She's the loveliest human alive and she's so yeah, she's 743 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 3: so fun. 744 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 4: He really liked her. She just didn't know who he was, 745 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 4: a very very fun fact. Murphy. As always, it is 746 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 4: a total delight. You are welcome back anytime. 747 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: George would be so jealous that we've been hanging out 748 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: without her, but thank you so much. 749 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 4: And again just a. 750 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: Joyful, joyful chat about Australian rugby and we want more 751 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 2: of them. 752 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and thank you Abby and Georgie. 753 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 4: Good luck. 754 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 3: I know you're winning the amazing where she is who knows? 755 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: I love your work on offside is Abby? 756 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 4: Love? Oh God, bless you. And until next week, everyone's 757 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 4: bigger Sport