1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: One of the most popular books that I've been hearing 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: about is from the number one podcast on the planet. 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Her name is mel Robbins and the book is called 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: The Let Them Theory, The Let Them Theory, Kylie. Missus 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Happy Families has spent the last couple of weeks diving 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: deep into this New York Times bestseller, and today we 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: tell you what that let Them theory is and what 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: it means for peace, serenity, calm, bliss and all the 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: good things in your life. I think I don't actually 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: know what Kylie's going to say. Stay with us, good day. 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us on the Happy Families podcast, 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Real Parenting Solutions every single day on Australia's most downloaded 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: parenting podcast. We are Justin and Kylie Colson. All right, Kylie, 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: let's get straight into it. You're not the expert on 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: the let Them theory. Well, what's the actual title of 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: the book, they Let Them Theory? But let Them Theory? Okay, 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: what is if you can tell me? Will you're not 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: the expert and didn't write the book, what is the 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: let Them Theory? 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: Well, I'm actually going to let mail tell you. I'm 21 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: going to read a little excerpt from the beginning of 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: a book. Because it's just, it's such a profound thought. 23 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: If you're, if you're reading this book wanting someone to 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: mody coddle you and to speak gently, she is not 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: the person. She speaks hard truth and they can be 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: hard to swallow. 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: Slap in the belly with a wet fish. Yeah, a 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: little bit maybe across that a little bit maybe, But 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: this is what she says. 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: She says. The let them theory is about freedom, two 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: simple words, let them. 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: I thought you're going to say. 33 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: Freedom will free you from the burden of trying to 34 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: manage other people. When you stop obsessing over what other 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: people think, say, or do, you finally have the energy 36 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: to focus on your own life. You stop reacting and 37 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: start living instead of driving yourself crazy trying to manage 38 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: or please other people, you'll learn to let them. So 39 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: what does this look like? Imagine you're at work and 40 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: your colleague is in a bad mood. Instead of letting 41 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: their negativity affect you, you just say, let them. Let 42 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: them be grumpy, it's not your problem. Focus on your 43 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: work and how you feel. 44 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: I've got to cut you off for a sec. This 45 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 1: sounds like that thing that I said to you about 46 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: ten years ago that really changed our relationship. I felt 47 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: like you were cranky at me. I felt like you 48 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: were going through a really, really really rough time. I 49 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: felt like I was doing everything I could to support 50 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: you and it wasn't working. And one day I said, 51 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: I'm not going to let you be in a bad 52 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: mood affect my mood. Like if I'm going to have 53 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: a good day, I'm having a good day, and I'm 54 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: satisfied to just let you have a bad day. But 55 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: I still love you and I'm here to support you. 56 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: But you get to choose your mood. 57 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: And I think, generally speaking, men are a lot better 58 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: at differentiating between someone else's emotion and their own. 59 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: So to detach, Okay, you're upset, you can be upset. 60 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to go about my day. That's kind of 61 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: what she's saying. That's what happens. Okay, So if my 62 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: mother in law drives me crazy, my mother in law 63 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: look at me and saying, well, if you want to 64 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: be upset at me, that's your choice. But I'm seventy 65 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: years old and I'm going to live the life that 66 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: I want to live. Yeah, this is the anti change. 67 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: Other people book got it just you do you? 68 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: So maybe your dad makes another comment about your life 69 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: choices and it hits you like a brick. Instead of 70 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: letting it ruin your day, just let him. Let him 71 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: have his opinions. They don't change who you are, or 72 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: what you've accomplished, or your right to make decisions that 73 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: make you happy. The truth is, other people hold no 74 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: real power over you unless you give it to that. 75 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of so many people we need to give 76 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: this book case. 77 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: Here's how it works. 78 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: Are you still going? 79 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: When you stop trying to control things that aren't yours 80 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: to control, You stop wasting your energy. You recclaim your time, 81 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: your peace of mind, your focus. You realize that your 82 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: happiness is tied to your actions, not somebody else's behavior, opinions, 83 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: or moods. They let them. Theory will teach you that 84 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: the more you let other people live their lives, the 85 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: better your life gets. Yeah. 86 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I love what's going on here. I love 87 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: what the book is about. When I hear this, though, 88 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: one of the great challenges that I'm confronted with is 89 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: as a parent. As a parent, you can't just let 90 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: the Yes, you can let the kids have a big 91 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: emotional outburst. I'm really good at saying, you know what, kids, 92 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: If you want to be upset about this, I get it. 93 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: I still love you. I'm trying to help you. But 94 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: if you don't want to talk to me, if you 95 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: want to be cranky, that's on you. I'm here when 96 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: you're ready. So I get that. But you also can't 97 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: let your children go and behavior responsibly, you know, responsibility 98 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: to socialize them. 99 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Your role as a parent is to 100 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 2: parent them, so does to safeguard them and to yes 101 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: and to them navigate. Yes. 102 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: Does she have any content about because. 103 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: You're not specifically in this. 104 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: Book, she does adult that adult. 105 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: That's exactly right, and she does acknowledge that a parental 106 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: relationship with your child is different, especially with young children. 107 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: But she has something that you could go and look 108 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: on an ebook and have access to. There's just one 109 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: other that's really important when we think about the let 110 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: them theory, she said, too often people stop there at 111 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: letting other people have their emotions, have their opinions, But 112 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: there's actually more to it. There's two steps. So she said, 113 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: the let them theory isn't just let them. Yes, it 114 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: begins with these two words, but that's not the whole story. 115 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: Let them is just the first half of the equation. 116 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: There is a second, even more crucial step to this theory, 117 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: which is let me. So this book is actually not 118 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: about other people. It's about us and what we choose 119 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: to do following our acceptance of other people's behavior, opinions, thoughts, emotions, 120 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: and everything that goes with that. 121 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, after the break, what Kylie loved most about 122 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: this book? Because my sense, Kyle is you liked it 123 00:05:54,640 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: a lot. Okay, Kylie, they'll let them theory, Mel Robins, 124 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: she's the number one podcaster globally. Wouldn't mind if we 125 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: were the number one podcast as globally. But we're not 126 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: there yet. Can everyone just tell everyone about this podcast 127 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: like I think we do a I think we do 128 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: a good pod. Jump online, leave us a five star 129 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: rating and review. Maybe that'll help us to move up 130 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: the charts a little bit. Gee wiz, please please, pretty 131 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: please do it? Is this the bit where you say 132 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: just let them do what they want? Is that the 133 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: bit what you said? 134 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: I was about to say, maybe just write a bit 135 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: of book. 136 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: Oh I don't know. It hurt a lot. Okay, what 137 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: did you laugh most about? Mel Robins? They'll let them 138 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: theory book. 139 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 2: I'm going to share with you three main things that 140 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: I took away from this. The first one she calls 141 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: hacking your stress response. She says, the moment anything happens 142 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 2: that stresses you out, literally say the words let them 143 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: put yourself in pause, then say let me and take 144 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: a breath, Let me take another breath, slow your stress response, 145 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: calm your body and brain down, take control and regain 146 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: your power. I love the fact that she just in 147 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: these few simple steps, what happens when somebody aggravates. 148 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: Us, Well, we respond reactively. We I mean, sometimes we 149 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: ignore it. Sometimes you turn against or turn away. Right, 150 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: That's the way that I normally talk about it. 151 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: If you're not a confrontational person, you might not actually 152 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: have anything to do with the perpose. You will ruminate 153 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: over that, you'll keep going over the conversation I should. 154 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: Have said that thing instead. 155 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, And so we actually number one, give our 156 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: power to them. All of our energy is focused on 157 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: that scenario, and we can no longer move forward in 158 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: positive ways. And the idea and the science back behind 159 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: taking a breath and stopping ourselves between stimulus and response 160 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: is so powerful. And I just love the reminder that 161 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: I get to regain my power by acknowledging. I can't 162 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: change you, but I can change how I choose to 163 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: see this and respond to it. 164 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: Love it. 165 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: Number two, the power of let me. This is really 166 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,119 Speaker 2: this is so good. 167 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: I love that you're over this book. I love seeing 168 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: you enjoy a book. It's been at ages since I've 169 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: seen this, she said. 170 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: Regardless of what circumstances and situations of which you find yourself, 171 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: using the let them theory, you'll learn that no matter 172 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: how big the problem is or how stressful something feels, 173 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: there's always something you can do through your actions and 174 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: attitudes to make it better. That is the power of 175 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: let me. You can't control everyone around you, or the 176 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: world at large, or what people are doing at the park, 177 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: but you can always control what you say, what you think, think, 178 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: or what you do in response. 179 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: I've got to jump in on you with what you're 180 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: talking about here. This is the ultimate don't be a 181 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: victim book. That's what I'm hearing you say. I know 182 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: that that sounds really offensive, and some people, well, like 183 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: I say, for what I'm saying, but you said this. 184 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: Is I said that at the beginning, She says some. 185 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: Like she hard truths, really hard truth. 186 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: Even to the point that you are in the wrong. Yeah, 187 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: like literally you were in the wrong. If you're feeling 188 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: x Y and Z about x y and Z, then 189 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: you're in the wrong. 190 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm hearing take responsibility for you and let other people 191 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: be themselves. Does she make the point that if people 192 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,239 Speaker 1: really cross the line, that you have to act though. 193 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: Yes, of course she acknowledges you're not supposed to be 194 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: a doormat, But that's where you get to decide. Am 195 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: I going to stay in this relationship? Is this a 196 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 2: relationship that builds me, lifts me up? 197 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: Am I going to put a boundary in here and 198 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: say you've just crossed the line? 199 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: Yes? 200 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: All right, great? 201 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: Yes? 202 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: What's the third thing? We are nearly out of time, 203 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: and I feel like I need to pick up this 204 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: book and read it as well. It sounds like fun. 205 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: The last thing that she makes is don't be the 206 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: person who bends over backwards to make everyone happy. She said, 207 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 2: someone is always going to be disappointed by the decisions 208 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: that you make. This is so powerful and as she 209 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: shared the experience that led her to this belief. I 210 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: was just thinking about all the times I have done this. 211 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: Give me the short version of the experience. 212 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: So one weekend, her best friend is having a milestone birthday. 213 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 2: They're going away for the weekend. It's a four hour 214 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: drive in one direction. But months previous to this, there's 215 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 2: another commitment invitation. Her parents have acknowledged that her grandparents 216 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: will be in town and she's promised that she will 217 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: be with them for the weekend. So torn her totally torn. 218 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: Number One, she wants to be a good friend, but 219 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: she also wants to be a good daughter and a 220 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: grand grand So she decides there's only one solution. She's 221 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: going to drive the four hours to spend the night 222 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 2: with her best friend and the girls get completely sloshed, 223 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: have asleep, wake up the next morning, and while everyone's 224 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: still sleeping it off. She gets in the car and 225 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: she drives to her mom's place. It's not until a 226 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: few days later that she's catching up with her friends 227 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 2: and somebody acknowledges that the birthday girl was really disappointed 228 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: and made the comment that why did she even bother 229 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: to show up if. 230 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: She could, if she was going to leave the next 231 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: morning weekend. 232 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Meantime, when she showed up at her parents' house, 233 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: her mum gave her a big hug and whispered in 234 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: her ear, I need you to know, Grandma was really 235 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: disappointed you here last night. 236 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: Just keep it to yourself, Mom, like, can you see? 237 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 2: Can you see just in that situation, she's tried in 238 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: her in the only way she knows how to please 239 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 2: both people and please know it, and she hasn't pleased 240 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 2: to send and no one has. 241 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: The sad thing about that for me is there's no gratitude, 242 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: there's no grace. That's right. People aren't saying Mel's got 243 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: so much on and at least she made the time 244 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: to do something. Instead, they're saying, why did she bother it? 245 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: I mean, to me, that's that's an indictment on them. 246 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: And Mel needs new relatives and new friends, draw some 247 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: boundaries mail robins. 248 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: But as I read that, I was thinking of all 249 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 2: the times that I have turned my life upside down, 250 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: twisted into one hundred different knots and like a breath, 251 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: directions to please everyone, and I've had similar outcomes, and 252 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: I'm left feeling less than whole and seriously upset. And 253 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 2: disappointed that there is just no grace of it in 254 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 2: spite of my very best efforts. It's not enough cheer. 255 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: And so the things that I love about this book 256 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: the acknowledgment that I can't change anyone else. This is 257 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: not new, This is not new. But in me take 258 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 2: on that thought process of let them. I literally am 259 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: able to just say you have every right to feel 260 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: that way. I know you're disappointed that I didn't get 261 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 2: to spend the weekend with you, but I feel good 262 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: about the decision I made to come and spend time 263 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: with you. 264 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: We're out of time, But I've got a question for you. Yes, 265 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: have you been using any of the let them theory 266 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: on me or our kids? 267 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: No? I haven't, But I've had I've had a situation 268 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: just in the last few weeks. It has been really 269 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: troubling for me, and for a handful of days, I've 270 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: really been ruminating over the way other people have chosen 271 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: to respond to a decision that I made. And the 272 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 2: problem is we know why we make the decisions we make. 273 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you intimately trying to be helpful, that's right, and. 274 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 2: You're thinking about everybody being a people pleaser, I'm thinking 275 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: about everyone and trying to make everybody happy in the scenario. 276 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: But there are plenty of people who are not happy 277 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: with the decision that I made, and I was getting 278 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: myself all worked up about it, and then I woke 279 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: up one morning and I just thought, you know what, 280 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: Let them. It's okay that they feel this way. No, 281 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: not from A. It's not from A. 282 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: It's not a smug arrogance in your face. Let them. 283 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: It literally is. I can see why you would feel 284 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: that way. It's okay that you feel that way. That's 285 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: not why I made the decision, and I didn't make 286 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: it with that intent, but I can see how that 287 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: decision may have impacted you in that way, and that's okay. 288 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: It's not mine to fix it's that's theirs. My role 289 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: is to take control of the things I can control. 290 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: I can't control them, but I can control how I think, 291 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: how I choose to respond, and how I act. 292 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: The let them theory by Mel Robbins is Kylie Colson's 293 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: new favorite book, Call It's Pretty Good. We will into 294 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: it in the show notes. If you would like to 295 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: click on the link and grab a copy. 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