WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - I Was Sent My Mum's Nudes

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<v Speaker 1>Lifelun Cut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands

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<v Speaker 1>were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders

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<v Speaker 1>past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>recorded on Cameragle Land.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Lifelong Cut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Brittany, I'm Laura's Thursday, and it's therapy Thursday, our

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<v Speaker 1>favorite day of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Week where we answer your deep you're dark and you're

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<v Speaker 2>burning questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I have something I've been losing sleep over and

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<v Speaker 1>I need to figure it out. And I mean literally

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<v Speaker 1>losing sleep I took a sleeping tablet last night.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you feel very groggy?

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<v Speaker 1>I need to get some non drowsing.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do sleeping tablets. I can't even say sleeping day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because you have small children that depend on you

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<v Speaker 1>in the nighttime.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't sleep through that. I absolutely can't. Oh, so, Bows,

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<v Speaker 3>that was very funny. So why do you lose and

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<v Speaker 3>sleep over? Britty? Oh shit?

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<v Speaker 1>So it was something that happened to Keisha and I

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<v Speaker 1>and Bali. So like I'm going to cast us back

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<v Speaker 1>a week. It was only a week ago, not less.

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<v Speaker 3>It was you got back on Sunday. No, the night

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<v Speaker 3>was six days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>The night of the eve of the twenty first of

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<v Speaker 1>August was Wednesday night, Balmie night. BALI were at Rock Bar,

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<v Speaker 1>so Keisha and I were celebrating our birthday, very cute

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<v Speaker 1>on the side of a cliff overlooking the water, sunset, drinks.

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<v Speaker 1>It was amazing, so romantic. So we hadn't told anyone

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<v Speaker 1>it was our birthday. We were like, just us, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go celebrate our birthday. So we're sitting on this platform

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<v Speaker 1>and we start to hear these and it's packed. We

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<v Speaker 1>start to hear these tambourines going, and four or five

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<v Speaker 1>Balinese workers like staff there started to walk up these

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<v Speaker 1>stairs and they started to sing Happy Birthday. They had

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<v Speaker 1>a plate and the tambourines were going. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. And so I'm always the person that joins

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<v Speaker 1>in singing group happy birthdays.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm like as loud as you can.

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<v Speaker 1>So I start clapping and I'm like, happy.

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<v Speaker 3>Birth Get the whole restaurant involved. To be fair, it

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<v Speaker 3>was like more than fifty meters away.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a long way away, so we assumed that

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<v Speaker 4>it was also someone else's birthday. We were like, how

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<v Speaker 4>cool you were like hypeath.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were walking towards us and there was only

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<v Speaker 1>us and this other one table behind us, this couple

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<v Speaker 1>on the platform. So I turn around and face my

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<v Speaker 1>body straight to them and I'm like, happy fay anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>Can they keep walking towards And then they stop and

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<v Speaker 1>they turn and they give it to Kishra Night and

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<v Speaker 1>We're like what, how does anyone know it's up birthday?

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<v Speaker 3>Also, you're like sing along. It just got louder and

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<v Speaker 3>louder and louder.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually ended up getting a video of this because

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<v Speaker 4>there is nothing that makes me more uncomfortable than when

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<v Speaker 4>the whole whole place is looking at you. And it

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<v Speaker 4>was worse because we thought it was for someone else,

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<v Speaker 4>so we were clapping.

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<v Speaker 3>Along, so embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 1>We were tambourining along to this other couple behind us

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<v Speaker 1>and they looked confused, but I was like, well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no one else here, so I was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Leaning into it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of funny that some people find that the

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<v Speaker 2>most embarrassing thing, Like that's the same Matt hates it

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<v Speaker 2>when a restaurant sings, and I'm like, it's quite joyful.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what everybody, you can't sing to yourself,

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<v Speaker 4>but I get along in this situation. We kind of

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<v Speaker 4>could almost get away with it because it was both

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<v Speaker 4>of ours. But I don't think the restaurant knew that

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<v Speaker 4>because everything was booked under Brit.

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<v Speaker 3>It was even funnier.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a video of this, so this is what

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<v Speaker 4>it sounded like. And what was put down in front

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<v Speaker 4>of Brit was the funniest thing I have ever seen.

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<v Speaker 4>Usually it will be like a cupcake or maybe a

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<v Speaker 4>dessert or something like something sweet to celebrate a birthdate.

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<v Speaker 4>What was placed in front of Brit was two thick

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<v Speaker 4>slices of cucumber with a only in the middle that had.

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<v Speaker 3>A candle in it. Two slices of cucumber. I've got

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<v Speaker 3>a birthday cucumber and I read rose. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think if you've ever on the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>talked about your love of cucumbers before, But nothing's coming.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm drawing a blame. I think it was like a.

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<v Speaker 1>Side accompaniment accompaniment. It was so strange because it was

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<v Speaker 1>side what accompaniment?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that sounds so weird. Accompaniment. It doesn't come

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<v Speaker 3>out well. But Laura thought I made a word up.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a drink as well, but I got a

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<v Speaker 1>It was a birthday cocktail with a birthday cucumber. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never received a birthday care.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't in a whole cucumber. Budget cuts. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a slide in Bali, the economy these days.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, that opened up the conversation with this table

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<v Speaker 1>whose birthday we thought it was.

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<v Speaker 3>So we were like a ha ha, we thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was yours. That's why we were singing haha.

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<v Speaker 1>And she goes, no, it's not my birthday, but I

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<v Speaker 1>am getting engaged tonight, and she threw that to us.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought she meant she got engaged, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was congratulations, engaged, congratulations.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, no, I'm getting engaged, and she's not.

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<v Speaker 3>We spring.

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<v Speaker 1>This girl was a vibe right, Her energy was high.

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<v Speaker 1>She obviously had a few drinks. She was beautiful, dressed

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<v Speaker 1>to the nines. He was like very fit, working out,

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<v Speaker 1>very tanned. He was very quiet. She was the leader,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she was telling this big story about how

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<v Speaker 1>they were getting engaged, and he was just like he

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<v Speaker 1>had a smirk on his face, but silent. And she

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<v Speaker 1>was telling everyone and.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, no, it's happening tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, you know that, like like you talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the confidence of this girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so she started to tell us this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, oh, yes, I've picked the ring. I designed

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<v Speaker 1>it myself. It's yellow, diamond's got these diamonds ryning a

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<v Speaker 1>band like. She described the whole thing to us, and

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<v Speaker 1>she goes, also, I said, maybe it won't happen tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like maybe I was trying to like give

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<v Speaker 1>her some suspense, and she.

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<v Speaker 3>Goes, no, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>We've driven a long way to get here tonight, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen the ring in his back. She's like, this

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<v Speaker 1>shit is going down tonight. And she's saying this in

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<v Speaker 1>front of her hopefully now fiance and said, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm losing sleep about. I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 1>got engaged and I they were Australian. There's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be someone that listens to this podcast that knows the

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<v Speaker 1>couple I'm talking about and can fine them. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do. I want to do that old school,

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<v Speaker 1>track them down and find who they are.

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<v Speaker 2>We were talking about this earlier and Keisha has never

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<v Speaker 2>heard from this and it's blown my mind. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>guys remember on the train, like back in the day,

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<v Speaker 2>used to get magazines when you'd get on the train

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<v Speaker 2>back in ride Ay, it was like a magazine that

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<v Speaker 2>you would get. Maybe it was a Sydney thing, but

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<v Speaker 2>there was a column in the magazine that was like

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<v Speaker 2>missed love Opportunities and it was I saw you standing

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<v Speaker 2>on platform two heading to Ingodeen station. You were wearing

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<v Speaker 2>blue pants. Our eyes met for one minute whatever one second.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you bought it. I feel like I've lost the

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<v Speaker 3>love of my life. And then you reconnect.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this, this is this, But you look so confused, Keisha,

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<v Speaker 2>You've never heard of this.

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<v Speaker 3>I just like, really, we have a couple of years

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<v Speaker 3>between us.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I've got sixty's with you in seven years

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<v Speaker 4>with you, Laura, and usually we have the same generational things.

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<v Speaker 3>But every now and then there's a gap, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is one of those gaps.

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<v Speaker 4>What are you talking?

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<v Speaker 2>He now take photos and post it on Facebook and

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<v Speaker 2>say have you seen this person?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they hunt them down. It's just the old

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<v Speaker 3>school way. But I saw this happen a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it was like a nod to this old magazine.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was a girl that did it in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>But she printed out flyers and she stuck them on

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<v Speaker 1>to telegraph poles.

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<v Speaker 3>That's too creepy. I think it's cute.

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<v Speaker 4>Nah, that's too far the fine line between creepy and romantic. No,

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<v Speaker 4>but if you think.

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<v Speaker 1>About it, back to this magazine, which funny that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember. It was a whole thing. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it was just sitting law. I think this was

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<v Speaker 1>just you could do it to find anyone anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I used to look at it every week, hoping

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<v Speaker 3>that someone might have put me in there. No one did.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to know I still have it. I

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<v Speaker 3>ever had it. You did have it.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably didn't get the train enough.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I got the train every day. That's why I

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<v Speaker 3>read it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway, wait to rub it in Brittany.

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<v Speaker 3>She just writes her own column in do they ever

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<v Speaker 3>do follow ups? Do they ever?

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of in the magazine if people actually did meet?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that was another column where people like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it never worked out.

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<v Speaker 3>Contents really evolved, hasn't it Well it hasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same, but we just do it on a

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<v Speaker 1>different pun intended platform. Like it's the same thing. People

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<v Speaker 1>do that all the time on Facebook and Instagram, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a cuteesee thing, like looking for this person, how

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<v Speaker 1>can I track them down? Like Brittany is losing sleep. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to know if he committed to it

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<v Speaker 1>or if because she was so certain of telling everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>if he was like I'm going to do a flippy

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<v Speaker 1>one eighty and make away a few days.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I want to know.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting, do you guys think that, I mean, because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not engaged, I've never been engaged. Do you think the

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<v Speaker 4>surprise element adds to it? Or do you think it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't really matter, Like you're still so overjoyed by the

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<v Speaker 4>fact it's happened that you don't care whether it was

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<v Speaker 4>a surprise or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I got the impression she could not care less it

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<v Speaker 1>was happening that night, Like I have the impression.

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<v Speaker 3>That if he didn't drop the knees, she probably would have.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be surprised person.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, I was surprised has happened. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>getting engaged again, but like I would have preferred if

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<v Speaker 1>I had the choice to have surprise, for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it depends on the relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people hate surprises and they are more in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of like one in control, and therefore they know when

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to happen, they know how it's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Other people have picked the ring, they know what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen, but they don't know exactly the way the

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<v Speaker 2>person's going to propose. Like, I don't know. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's many variations from it, and if it is good

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<v Speaker 2>for that couple, then I don't really have an opinion

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<v Speaker 2>on it, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Truly, I actually am a bit interested by the fact that,

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<v Speaker 4>like whether the surprise element of a proposal matters at

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<v Speaker 4>all to some people. I think for some it would.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it would be pretty personal. But I guess

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<v Speaker 4>if you're the type of person who likes to kind

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<v Speaker 4>of have your ducks in a row, if you're a planner,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're a bit type A, you might actually prefer to.

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<v Speaker 3>Know when and how and have a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>control over the situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think, on top of that, if on the

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<v Speaker 2>flip side, if you discovered the ring, if you knew

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<v Speaker 2>that your partner was going to propose, did you pretend

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<v Speaker 2>like you didn't know, yes, or did you or did

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<v Speaker 2>you tell them like did you say hey, like sorry

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<v Speaker 2>to foil your plans.

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<v Speaker 3>But I should have hit that a bit better. But

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, do you play along with the surprise? Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Andy alone, but if you play along, do you have

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<v Speaker 3>to be like oh shock? Like how much do you

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<v Speaker 3>play along?

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<v Speaker 1>You commit your method act the whole way along, and

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<v Speaker 1>you never tell them you knew until it's like your

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<v Speaker 1>fiftieth anniversary.

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<v Speaker 2>I was convinced, Like I was not convinced, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty sure Matt was going to propose when he

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<v Speaker 2>did on that holiday because.

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<v Speaker 3>We went to Fiji. I was pregnant at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a tripod set up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'd pick a fight with him a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks earlier over a hidden album in his phone, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I found out from his sister. His sister was like,

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing something nice for you. Fucking stop it. You

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<v Speaker 2>were about to ruin your own surprise because I was

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<v Speaker 2>like nagging him at the dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>Table anyway, have been deep driving his phone.

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<v Speaker 2>So then no, he was showing me something. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I could see that he had hidden an album and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what is that?

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, show me the nudesw the Bachelorette can

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<v Speaker 3>time was really traumatized from past relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so I was convinced it was going to

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<v Speaker 2>happen because I was like, well, the only really nice

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<v Speaker 2>thing he could be doing where he's hiding an album

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<v Speaker 2>of things is either he's cheating on me or he's proposing.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing between.

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<v Speaker 2>And when he actually did do it, I was still

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<v Speaker 2>really surprised, but that's because he just started crying and

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<v Speaker 2>didn't actually verbalize words, so I thought he was going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell me some terrible news.

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<v Speaker 3>He just cried.

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<v Speaker 2>He just he didn't even He just stood there, looked

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<v Speaker 2>at me and started crying, and I was like, are

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<v Speaker 2>you terminally ill?

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<v Speaker 3>Like what's happening? And then the response I wanted sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>was he on one knee or not?

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<v Speaker 2>No, he just stood there and started crying, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what the fuck is happening?

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<v Speaker 3>And you're okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm pregnant, I'm hormone all and then

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<v Speaker 2>he popped down and his knee touched the sand for

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<v Speaker 2>half a second and he popped back up like he

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<v Speaker 2>was doing some sort of burfi and I was so confused.

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<v Speaker 3>He still have the video. I wish I did. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I made him get down again for a second time.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, do do with purpose? That's actually something

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<v Speaker 3>I have.

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<v Speaker 4>I know people don't actually play the divorce now, which

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<v Speaker 4>is a little bit of a grim ending to this story.

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<v Speaker 4>But I found out that the next day they went

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<v Speaker 4>back and.

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<v Speaker 3>Did a pretend. No, that's not okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So because like, he didn't set up a photographer, he

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<v Speaker 4>didn't set up a camera and nothing. So the next

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<v Speaker 4>day they went back and.

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<v Speaker 3>Got the shop. No, that's so Matt did set up

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<v Speaker 3>a go pro.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he loves content, but I was like, why

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<v Speaker 2>did you set up a GoPro to start crying? Go

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<v Speaker 2>pro strapped to his chest, I looks straight at you.

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<v Speaker 3>That was when GoPros is a fish. I only like

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<v Speaker 3>you would have just looked like this big ship. If

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<v Speaker 3>there's one.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing, if anyone can take away from anything from this,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to set up a camera. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>get someone to take a photo of that moment. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know it might not mean anything to you, but

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<v Speaker 1>one day you're gonna want to look back on it,

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<v Speaker 1>or she's gonna want to remember it. So that's my advice, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>set up a camera, not a go pro strapped your head.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that my boyfriend would do that. I

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<v Speaker 4>do not think he would want play him this.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think it's dependent. Some people want it and

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<v Speaker 2>some people don't. I know that it's important to you,

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<v Speaker 2>but there would definitely be women out there. He could

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<v Speaker 2>not care if they get it captured or not.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree even if they think that they don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>In five years, I'll be like, I wish I had

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<v Speaker 1>that moment. That's that's the whole point of photographs.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess you do still have the choe. Whether you

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<v Speaker 3>have it, you don't have to post it publicly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the last funny part of this that we forgot

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<v Speaker 1>to say was that there was after she told us

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<v Speaker 1>it was happening tonight, like and now we're at this

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<v Speaker 1>romantic dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>She turned around to us and she goes, can one

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<v Speaker 3>of you guys take a photo of us? And Keish

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<v Speaker 3>was closed, so she was like, yeah, yeah, I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So she hands to the phone, but she's she's secretly

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<v Speaker 1>put the phone on video and giving it to Keisha.

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<v Speaker 1>So the video was running, so Keisha's.

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<v Speaker 4>Torchas on rose so quickly in my body because I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, okay, we've just had the information of the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that she thinks she's getting engaged tonight. She knows

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<v Speaker 4>it's happening. She's told us all about the ring. Hees

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<v Speaker 4>kind of laughing. She's just handed me a phone on record.

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<v Speaker 4>I was hitting bricks. I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>I have to get it's right. I have to get

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<v Speaker 4>writ and make sure it's recording. Make sure it's recording,

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<v Speaker 4>make sure it's a good angle, make sure the lighting's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm standing there filming the two of them, expecting

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<v Speaker 4>that he's about to propose, and I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>what an honor.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm filming these people's proposal.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they start to kiss and she's she's prepped to

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<v Speaker 1>hair and like, you know, she's she's peacocking.

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<v Speaker 3>She was, yeah, it just didn't happen. So how long

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<v Speaker 3>did you record?

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<v Speaker 4>Forty seconds until I was like I didn't know where

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<v Speaker 4>to keep going. I didn't know whether I just I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, do you know what she probably actually meant

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<v Speaker 4>to give it to you on photo and now she's

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<v Speaker 4>just can't got no photo.

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<v Speaker 3>She's just got a minute long video of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Possibly, but I think she was prepping that in case

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<v Speaker 4>it happened anyway, I just didn't know when to I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know when to stop, and so I was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of just awkwardly standing there for longer than what I

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<v Speaker 4>would deem to be a normal amount of time that

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<v Speaker 4>you would record another couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine the fact that those two would have had when

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<v Speaker 2>they got back to the hotel if he didn't propose.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine the kickoff. Yes, at least she's got, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>enough content to make a.

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<v Speaker 3>Reel out of it. Someone find her, please tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get into vibes and unsubscribes. Bretonnair, Harklair,

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<v Speaker 2>What is your vibe?

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<v Speaker 1>My vibe this week is a Netflix doc Oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys know I love a true crime documentary. You've probably

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<v Speaker 1>seen it because it's it pops up every time you

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<v Speaker 1>go onto net fl, you know how it's like suggested

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they're really pushing it. But it's the American murder

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<v Speaker 1>Lacey Peterson. And if you remember, it was very very

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<v Speaker 1>big news. But she was like heavily pregnant with her baby,

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<v Speaker 1>their first baby when she went missing, and her husband

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<v Speaker 1>was on the search with them. There were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all these candlelight ceremonies, and that was searching all over

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<v Speaker 1>the state, and he was doing all of these talks

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<v Speaker 1>to the media, like begging her to come home and

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<v Speaker 1>whatever else like that, and it was very heart wrenching.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it turned out that Scott, the husband, was

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<v Speaker 1>the person that murdered her. He was having this affair,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not a spoiler. Like the documentary sort of

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<v Speaker 1>owns the fact and everyone knows that story, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>a story that most people know really well. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was I mean, I don't want to say, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the word is. I was gonna say it

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<v Speaker 1>was nice to watch it play out in a documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice isn't the word, but to see it be brought

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<v Speaker 1>to life in a way and get that inside a look.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I always vibe true crime stuff to you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's my vibe.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's easy to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>It's three episodes and it's on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 4>I also watched this and I thought it was really nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently it was one of the first times that Lacey's

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<v Speaker 4>mum has spoken to the media, and interestingly, he has

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<v Speaker 4>always said that he's innocent, so he was on death row,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think it was in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>The docuseries said, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>That he was taken off of that and now he's

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<v Speaker 4>just got like an extended life sentence or something. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't really know the ins and outs of the wise,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was kind of weird to see just how

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<v Speaker 4>emotionless he was, you know, because they had all this

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<v Speaker 4>documentary style filming from the news and all that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of thing of him.

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<v Speaker 3>He did all these interviews is robody.

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<v Speaker 4>It almost seemed a little bit like gone goal, but

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<v Speaker 4>just the first half, you know, and it was weird

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<v Speaker 4>to see how he could have done something so so

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<v Speaker 4>unthinkable and so horrific and then face up to the

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<v Speaker 4>cameras and act as though he was a victim.

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<v Speaker 3>It was creepy, but that's also normal for sociopaths.

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<v Speaker 1>Those kinds of people aren't like they're not their emotions

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<v Speaker 1>aren't regulated, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't usually like true crime for me, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit like just too full on, but this.

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<v Speaker 3>Goes to home.

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<v Speaker 2>I find it fascinating, but also it really does make

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<v Speaker 2>you question like humanity.

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<v Speaker 4>My vibe for this week is it's actually an online

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<v Speaker 4>pilates platform, So I am thinking of this because it

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<v Speaker 4>was brought up in the Facebook group. Someone posted through

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<v Speaker 4>the week that they were looking for something that they

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<v Speaker 4>could do at home, some exercise they could do at

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<v Speaker 4>home that was like easy entry. And I myself have

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<v Speaker 4>gone through this period in the last couple of months.

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<v Speaker 3>I have just been so not motivated to exercise. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's that thing you know in your head when

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, I know I should be doing this, but God,

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<v Speaker 4>I cannot be bothered.

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<v Speaker 3>And right now that's been me for five years, I feel.

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<v Speaker 4>So This particular one is called House of sculpt Nicole

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<v Speaker 4>and Sasha who own it. They're both expallerinas and they've

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<v Speaker 4>done ted talks about toxic fitness culture that prays on

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<v Speaker 4>our insecurities, and so the morals behind this business are

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<v Speaker 4>really really good, and it's very much in line with

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<v Speaker 4>being strong. It's not about changing your body for the

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<v Speaker 4>way it looks. It's about changing yourself so that you

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<v Speaker 4>feel better about yourself. And all of their workouts are

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<v Speaker 4>created around that. We've got all these different types of pilates.

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<v Speaker 4>They start from like twenty minute sessions to fifty minute

0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.359
<v Speaker 4>It changes every day. They've also got yoga. The yoga

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<v Speaker 4>instructor they have is French and really really hot, so that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Bonus smart marketing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, and so they've actually got like a physical

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<v Speaker 4>studio that they do classes, but they do the online

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<v Speaker 4>as well, and they have a week free trial. I've

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<v Speaker 4>just checked out on their website. Their memberships start from

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<v Speaker 4>thirty five dollars per month, so that's like eight dollars

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<v Speaker 4>seventy five per week. So I think it's really affordable,

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<v Speaker 4>very easy access. You just you don't really need anything.

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<v Speaker 4>You just need a matt at home. So yeah, House

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<v Speaker 4>of sculpt is my reco for the week.

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<v Speaker 2>So Laura, Well, I'll find some excuses as to why

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<v Speaker 2>I should, but you know, great for everyone else. My

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<v Speaker 2>recommendation is something that is going very viral on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>At the moment, I hadn't heard of this series, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was the first release. The very first season of

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<v Speaker 2>it is from twenty nineteen. It's called Couple's Therapy, and

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<v Speaker 2>in the last couple of weeks I have seen so

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<v Speaker 2>much of it on TikTok. That's because season four has

0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:15.879
<v Speaker 2>just come out. But also call Her Daddy interviewed the therapist.

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<v Speaker 2>Her name is Auna gla Nik recently and that's also

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<v Speaker 2>why it's kind of been thrown into the stratosphere. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you're interested in watching it, it is on SBS

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<v Speaker 2>on demand.

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<v Speaker 3>All the seasons are there.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously it's free to watch it there as well, but

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<v Speaker 2>it is absolutely fascinating. So it is a reality TV

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<v Speaker 2>show where real couples sit down in a therapy room

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<v Speaker 2>and discuss their issues with this couple's therapist. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think in a time where we see so much contrived

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<v Speaker 2>drama through reality TV, it's really refreshing but also almost

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<v Speaker 2>unbelievable that these couples would come and be so vulnerable

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<v Speaker 2>in a format where they know it's going to end

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<v Speaker 2>up being created for entertainment.

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<v Speaker 1>But like really publicly airing your dirty laundering totally.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got super interested in it because of the

0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:01.920
<v Speaker 2>TikTok shot. They are so obviously real issues that these

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<v Speaker 2>couples are unpacking.

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<v Speaker 3>They are very emotional.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to describe it, but like quite

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<v Speaker 2>intense clips that are on TikTok, which is what made

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<v Speaker 2>me go and like check out the season and I

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<v Speaker 2>would love for us to unpack it more thoroughly, because

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<v Speaker 2>even though I'm finding it fascinating, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>I feel about this voyeurism into people's relationships. The only

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<v Speaker 2>thing I can compare it to is Esther Perell has

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<v Speaker 2>a podcast where she interviews people and she does a

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<v Speaker 2>one on one therapy session with them. But the thing

0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:33.320
<v Speaker 2>about those therapy sessions is that they're anonymous, so you

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<v Speaker 2>have the insight into their relationships, but you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>who the person is, whereas in this they're not anonymous,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're still talking so deeply and intimately about their relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>Facinating sps on demand. It's called Couple's Therapy, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>four seasons of it. The episodes are only around twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven minutes long, so it's very easy to consume.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so interesting talking about that type of environment because

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<v Speaker 4>the desire to fix whatever's wrong in your relationship must

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<v Speaker 4>be so yeah great that you're willing to have the

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<v Speaker 4>world know you're like, truthfully, I don't think you could

0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:08.120
<v Speaker 4>torture that out of me. Their desire to fix their

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<v Speaker 4>relationship must be the most important.

0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Thing to them that they don't care about anonymity.

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Or alternatively, they both think they're so right, Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>both think that they're so in the right that they

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel ashamed or worried about going and having these

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<v Speaker 2>conversations because they are like, well, I'm the one who's

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<v Speaker 2>in the right, so this is just going to be

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<v Speaker 2>bad for my partner.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Every single issue is different and every single couple is different,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's not really like a one mold fits all

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<v Speaker 2>kind of situation here.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's fucking fascinated.

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<v Speaker 2>I think as people, we love seeing inside other people's relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think people also, like, don't underestimate the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that people also like to be on reality TV. Like

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<v Speaker 1>there'd be couples that would just want to be on

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<v Speaker 1>TV and be like, this could be a show we

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<v Speaker 1>could do as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's theirs. It's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, my recommendation for the week, let's get into the questions. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Question one. Just over two years ago, I was getting

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<v Speaker 2>ready for bed one night when I got a notification

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<v Speaker 2>on Messenger for a message request from someone I did

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<v Speaker 2>not recognize. I decided to open the message, and it

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<v Speaker 2>said I just thought you would like to know what

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<v Speaker 2>your mother has been up too lately, followed by a

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<v Speaker 2>nude image of my mum and a screenshot of her

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<v Speaker 2>text exchange between her and this person's husband. I was

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<v Speaker 2>shocked and hoped that she hadn't sent these to any

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<v Speaker 2>other of my siblings, as this is what would break

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<v Speaker 2>me the most. I ignored the messages as much as

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<v Speaker 2>I could, until my youngest brother called me in hysterics,

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<v Speaker 2>telling me what he had just received, the same message

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<v Speaker 2>that I had. When I had consoled my brother enough

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<v Speaker 2>and was able to collect my own emotions, I decided

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<v Speaker 2>to really read the text that had been exchanged. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a week where she visited him in his hometown

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<v Speaker 2>on her week off.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked at the dates and it all hit me again.

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<v Speaker 2>She was meant to come visit me that week and

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<v Speaker 2>my newborn into state, but said that she had COVID

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<v Speaker 2>and had to stay where she was his hometown. As

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<v Speaker 2>terrible as I've feel for my mum's partner, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what shook me the most. She used me and my

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<v Speaker 2>child as a reason to go where she was going,

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<v Speaker 2>just to inconveniently get COVID and not be able to

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<v Speaker 2>travel any further. She used us to cheat, and it

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<v Speaker 2>makes me feel sick. Ever since I found this out.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been able to be the same around her.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't told her how I feel or how I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't told her partner either. It's all been an

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<v Speaker 2>unspoken thing between me and my brother, but I feel

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<v Speaker 2>as though we can't be the same towards her. I

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:30.359
<v Speaker 2>am also so mad at this woman for sending me

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<v Speaker 2>these explicit things, as if it was payback to my mum.

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<v Speaker 2>Why punish us and make us bear the weight of

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<v Speaker 2>it all?

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>My question here is my mum and her partner are

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<v Speaker 2>still together now, they have had no bumps in sight.

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<v Speaker 3>Do I tell my mom that I know? Do I

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<v Speaker 3>tell her partner?

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<v Speaker 2>Or with it being over two years ago since this

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<v Speaker 2>all happened, do I just go to a top notch

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<v Speaker 2>therapist to deal with it myself?

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<v Speaker 3>This is so fucked.

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<v Speaker 1>So the messages that she received were from the husband's

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<v Speaker 1>wife that were having the affair, So all right, So

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:04.920
<v Speaker 1>there's been an affair. The wife's found out.

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<v Speaker 3>And sent the nudes to the childrenaughter, and that's children.

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<v Speaker 1>That a so wrong, like to involve somebody's child or

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<v Speaker 1>children that you do not know. Is I want to

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<v Speaker 1>give her the benefit of the doubt and think that

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<v Speaker 1>she was obviously so deep in like the depths of

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<v Speaker 1>despair to do that. But that's I mean, that's giving

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<v Speaker 1>her a lot of credit.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think people do awful things when when they've

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<v Speaker 2>found out that they're being cheated on and they are

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely beside themselves and they want to enact revenge. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think she's thinking about how this would impact. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>when you say child, she's clearly an adult. She's got

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<v Speaker 2>kids herself. She was clearly just trying to make as

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<v Speaker 2>much damage as what she feels is being caused to

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<v Speaker 2>her relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>If youngest brother sounds young.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think youngest brother doesn't necessarily mean

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<v Speaker 2>it still has to be a child, do you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? I think that they are all adults.

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<v Speaker 2>She hasn't sent it to a nude to a child,

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<v Speaker 2>is my impression. But I'm not saying that it's the

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<v Speaker 2>right thing. But I'm saying like she was obviously in

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<v Speaker 2>a very fucking sad place where she felt like this

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<v Speaker 2>was the only way that she could kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>balance the score a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not sure it matters how old you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You never want to receive anod of your mum. It

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.919
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter if you're twenty thirty, forty, fifty sixty.

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:14.360
<v Speaker 3>It's also illegal. It's still a type of revenge porn.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sending that on one.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundred percent, I would be having the conversation with my

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<v Speaker 1>mum because all that's going to happen. There's obviously a divide.

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:22.239
<v Speaker 1>It's been two years, like you said, but you are

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<v Speaker 1>non stop thinking about it. You can't be completely comfortable

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.159
<v Speaker 1>around your mom. You can't trust her. This is just

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<v Speaker 1>going to keep pushing your part more and more like

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>all that happens is your festus. So you may as

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:36.120
<v Speaker 1>well sit down and have that conversation anyway you want.

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I would suggest very calmly, but I would just say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been really bothering me, and I think you

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<v Speaker 1>deserve to know. A you'd also deserve to know that

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<v Speaker 1>your nudes are right there. God knows where else she

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<v Speaker 1>sent them.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, if she sent them to you, she

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely also sent them to your mum and probably said

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 2>to your mom, I'm sending these to your kids. How

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.399
<v Speaker 2>are they going to respond to this? There is a

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<v Speaker 2>good chance that your mum already has lived in fear

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<v Speaker 2>that you have received these and was just hopeful that

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't, because I would think that if this woman

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 2>was trying to go for mass impact and mass damage,

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:10.679
<v Speaker 2>if she sent them to you, she absolutely sent them

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 2>to your mum, like that is well known. I guess

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.640
<v Speaker 2>My thing is is like I always I'm always shocked,

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 2>and I shouldn't be, but I'm always shocked.

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:20.440
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter how old.

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<v Speaker 2>You are, people still continue to make absolutely terrible decisions

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.959
<v Speaker 2>in their relationships. And just because they're are parents doesn't

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 2>mean that they have it all figured out. They behave

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 2>in ways that may shock us when it comes to

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 2>how they navigate their own relationships. Does it change the

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<v Speaker 2>person that they are. Does it change the quality of

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 2>the person that we thought they were. No, it just

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 2>means that, like everyone is fundamentally fucked up in many

0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 2>many ways, and parents can do things that as children,

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 2>we would never expect because you know, they've always they've

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 2>always presented themselves to be one version to us, and

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 2>as parents, you only see that version of them. You

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 2>don't see all of the fractures that actually make them human.

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.439
<v Speaker 1>Because the parent's job is to make you feel, as

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:02.239
<v Speaker 1>a child, like they have their shit figured out.

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 3>That's what I do. They ever do. They're just humans,

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 3>They're just just people. But the people with kids.

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And look, I think the person in this who

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 2>is definitely it's the worst situation for is your mum's partner.

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.439
<v Speaker 2>I would not be going and speaking to your mum's partner.

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 2>It's not your place too. If your mum wants to,

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 2>that's her place. I would be speaking to my mum though,

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 2>because I think at the moment your relationship is so

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:27.439
<v Speaker 2>fractured by this whole thing that's happened. It's changed the

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 2>way that you feel about your mum. You sitting down

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.959
<v Speaker 2>and having an honest conversation with her, her reaction to that,

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 2>her explaining maybe what was going on in her relation

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 2>to the time, Who knows. I'm not saying that she

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 2>will have an excuse that will be of value to you,

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 2>but it is an opportunity for you to repair the relationship,

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 2>explaining to her that you know and how you feel

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 2>about it. And it just means that she has time

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 2>to process that and to talk to you about it.

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 2>She may have been living the past two years with

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 2>this fear that you know and you didn't say anything.

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 3>That's also a very real possibility as well.

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:00.640
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not in defense of anybody here, but there's

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 1>always two to three sides to a story. So you

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know, we don't know exactly what was happening in

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:08.120
<v Speaker 1>your parents' relationship, and you don't know what her reason's worse.

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's her dad.

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 2>I think it's she says partner quite a bit in

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 2>this question, So like, I think it's not her parents' relationship.

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 3>I think it's her boyfriend.

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, but I just think there's always multiple sides,

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:21.679
<v Speaker 1>and you shouldn't be making I mean, you shouldn't be

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 1>having these feelings in the judgment until you know the

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 1>whole story, and then once you have all the information,

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>you can make an educated decision on how you feel

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and where you should go from there. But it's also

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>your mom, Like you should be able to sit down

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and have that conversation.

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Is it going to be awkward as fuck?

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like, mom, I saw your nudes, But like, also

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>think how horrible your mom would be feeling. I am

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 1>defending her, Actually I'm not defending what she did, but

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a horrible feeling to think that somebody has sent

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>your nudes around to God knows who and that for

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, you know, like that is that is a horrific,

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>humiliating feeling. And it doesn't matter if you're twenty or fifty,

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the feeling is the same.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know that like cheating is so insidious, that's

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 2>everybody that's the problem. And this may be something that

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 2>her partner has no idea that it ever happened. He

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 2>may be aware. I understand though, that this part of

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 2>it that's probably more hurtful is the fact that you

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 2>had plans to see your mom that week, like she

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 2>had every intention to come and visit you that then

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 2>used you as a scapegoat, and she lied to you

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like a whole other part.

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Here, because not only did her cheating affect her partner,

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 2>but it also directly affected you. She lied to you,

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 2>And I just think that your opinions of your mum

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 2>will never be fixed, like you will never get to

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 2>a place where you wholeheartedly trust her or are able

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 2>to have the same love and respect for her. If

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 2>you don't have a conversation about this, you know who

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 2>knows that this may have and will affect your relationship

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, or it may be something that

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 2>you guys can work through, but you won't know unless you.

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 3>Talk to her. That's so shit, so shit.

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>What would you do?

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 3>What would you do if some red my mom and

0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 3>dad just would never do that?

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 2>What would you do if someone was like, Hey, look

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 2>at what Nick's been up to, and all of a

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 2>sudden you received a nude of your mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like on fire, mom, No, I would I

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>would have that conversation with my mom for sure. But

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>my first and this is when you just put that

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 1>to me, that situation. To me, my first thought was

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<v Speaker 1>not about the affair, but to protect my mom that

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>her nudes were going around. That was my immediate first

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>thought was like, fuck, my mom's having nudes center around

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>And then I would deal with the rest later. But

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, everyone's going to react differently.

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 2>I think my first thought would be like, what's happened, Mom?

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Like what's going on? You know?

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Like this, this doesn't seem like behavior that I would

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<v Speaker 2>expect from you, Like what is happening. It's so hard

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 2>because cheating is like the one thing that every time

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 2>we answer it, people have such divided opinions and some

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 2>people cannot forgive like the act of cheating and some

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 2>people can. So it's not black and white. It's very gray,

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 2>and people have very fucking strong opinions on it.

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Question number two. My partner and I recently took our

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 1>two year old daughter on her first family holiday. We

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>all stayed in the same room with two queen beds.

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>She slept in her own bed and I slept with

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>my partner. My partner wanted to have sex on the

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>holiday and would always make jokes like what are you

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>doing later, which is basically just him shooting his shop.

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 1>But my mindset was, how can you have sex when

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>your child is sleeping legitimately no more than one meter

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>away from you in the same room. Don't you think

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>that's strange? I guess my question is, are people having

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>sex on holidays in the same room as their kids?

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Is this a thing? Because it makes me cringe? But

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<v Speaker 1>is it also fine if she's asleep and doesn't know.

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it's an age thing. Like I'm the age too,

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not having sex in front of my kids at two?

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well she's two.

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I And when I say that, I mean like,

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 2>obviously they're asleep. No one's wow, it's this is this

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 2>is gone to get some people angry when kids are

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 2>newborns and they're in a bassinet next to your bed

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 2>and they're, you know, six months old, and we all

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 2>know they're never going to retain a memory and they're asleep.

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't have an issue with that.

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 2>If they are walking, talking, can recite what they've seen,

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<v Speaker 2>have memories.

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 3>That is too old for me.

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I think it's too old because you're hoping

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 2>that they don't wake up, but they might wake up.

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 2>And everyone's kids are different, but my kids are always

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 2>getting in bed with us, so.

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I also kids pretend to be a sleep a lot.

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Like Yeah, I just I wouldn't be risking that situation

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 2>with a two year old or two and a half

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 2>year old or whatever it is.

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 3>And we've been in this situation lows. We've got two kids.

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 2>We often go on holidays and both of them are

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 2>sleeping in the same room.

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 3>So do you have sex on holidays? No.

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 2>We never book a one bedroom place anymore. We always

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 2>book a two bedroom place, or we book a place

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 2>that has a living area so that way we can

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.719
<v Speaker 2>transfer the kids into a different area so that we

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 2>can still have adult time, which I know is annoying.

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Adult times we're so sex we.

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Can have adult cutters.

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 3>But well, for two reasons.

0:32:57.720 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 2>One because there's nothing more annoying than being a parent

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 2>holiday where at seven pm at night, all the lights

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>have to go off and.

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 3>You've got to sit in the dark. You go on

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 3>a holiday shocked. I'm shocked.

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to parent.

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>You spend all this money to go there, and then

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 2>if you're all staying in the one room, when the

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 2>kid goes to sleep at seven o'clock, you sit in

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 2>the fucking dark.

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 3>Can't you put an eyemask on them, like a silk

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 3>ie mask?

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 2>For hours, you just sit in the dark together on

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 2>your phones, and then that's your night over.

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 3>It's great, horrible.

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I recommend always get two rooms or

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>like a room that has like a little lounge room area.

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm shocked that you guys had a tiny room,

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 2>which I understand. Like everyone's different. Also, you know, people

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 2>go camping. There's all different types of things. Do I

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 2>have sex when my kids are a meter away from me?

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 3>No? I think no, just no.

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I think we said it at the start. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>old enough, if your kid is old enough to remember

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>and recite what they've seen, then it's probably too old

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>or two year old questions, Well, yeah, like what's that?

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 3>Why? Why are you doing it? Like a dog? I

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 3>much if they wake up and they're like, wof too far.

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>And we've had people writing before dead Set. We have

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>had people writing before with questions around this, like their

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 1>kid has seen them having sex, they're toddler or something.

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>And the question was the one specifically that I'm recalling.

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>The question was like my daughter said she heard daddy

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 1>hurting me last night, because obviously she was moaning in ecstasy,

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 1>but it was sex. But she the daughter, is like

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I saw something and I heard that was pain, and

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 1>why is daddy doing that? And I'm just like you

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>were just opening a can of worms that you don't need,

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Like surely you can keep it in your pants until

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you get home to a private room.

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 2>I wonder how other moms would feel about this, because

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I would love to know, because I'm only answering this

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 2>question off my own personal experience. I would say like

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 2>under one is okay, like they're a baby, they're asleep,

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:49.719
<v Speaker 2>like one year old, sleep hard like they are asleep.

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 2>But for me, two seems too old, so I would

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 2>be so interested to know what other people think. I

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 2>know I've said this couple of times recently, but if

0:34:58.160 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 2>you're a child therapist, if you have.

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 3>I really need a child therapist right now, slide into

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 3>my DNS.

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I would love to know what you think is or

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 2>isn't acceptable in your relationships, because I do think that

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 2>people would have a slightly different opinion on this. It's

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:13.759
<v Speaker 2>a really tricky one, and I guess for me, it's

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 2>just it's unnecessary because we're able to do it other

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 2>times or in other places, or have a quickie in

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 2>the shower when the kids having her day nap, like,

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 2>just don't do it when they're asleep next to you.

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 2>The only other thing I have like for us in

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 2>our relationship, we used to always sleep naked, right Matt

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.320
<v Speaker 2>and I will never sleep naked anymore. He always sleeps

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 2>with underwear on. He always sleeps with pants on, and

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 2>that's because our kids get into our bed every night,

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 2>and I think it is quite unusual. And I don't

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 2>like it if parents sleep naked and then their kids get.

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Into bed with them. I'm like, that to me is weird.

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 2>But you know, everyone does things differently, so not casting

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 2>the judgment or maybe I am.

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to get myself canceled by all the

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 2>moms out there. Fucking moms are judged enough, so it's

0:35:59.120 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 2>such a hard one.

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, there's no right and wrong for everyone too, it's

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 3>not that there is when it comes from this shit.

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Though, Yeah, but not this Like everyone's different and everyone's

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a different opinion if it's one, eighteen months

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>or two, like at the end of the day. So

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not for us to shoot on anyone. It's what

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>you want to do is what you want to do.

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 1>It might not be right for someone else, but there's

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 1>always people that are. And like you said, Laura, this

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 1>is my opinion because I'm a mom. I don't have

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.399
<v Speaker 1>any experience in this, Like this is just my thought.

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't even know what a two year old looks like.

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 2>You'd be like, I think it's four, I think it's eighteen,

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's twelve months.

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.479
<v Speaker 1>That is not accurate. How are my children five and three?

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:33.319
<v Speaker 3>Good job?

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:34.800
<v Speaker 4>I know, Laura.

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 3>What are their names? Uh? Lilo, Lilo Milo?

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 1>And notice, okay, last question, I sold a tens machine,

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 1>you know those labor machines on marketplace a few months

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:48.760
<v Speaker 1>ago for sixty dollars.

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Do you know what they are?

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 3>I used one, did you Yeah? I used it when

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 3>I was a labor.

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I had originally purchased it as an ex higher machine,

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 1>but did not use it for my labor as it

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>was too fast. I had ten I did it, and

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 1>it seemed to work fine to the best of my knowledge,

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>up until I sold it. It had just sat in

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the pack and came in with a battery and it untouched,

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:11.240
<v Speaker 1>completely good to use. Before I sold it to the lady.

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I checked it again and it seemed to work fine

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>still from what I knew, I was selling a secondhand

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>item that was in good working condition, just as I

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 1>had purchased it. She had told me she wanted a

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 1>receipt for the item, and she had some trouble buying

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>off marketplace before. I totally empathized with her, but I

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:31.400
<v Speaker 1>told her I can't provide a receipt for it. Now

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 1>a few months have passed and she has contacted me

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:36.319
<v Speaker 1>saying that it was rubbish, It didn't work as it

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>should and is not in good working order. It impacted

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 1>her birth and her experience was horrendous.

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 3>That was just birth that wasn't a TENS machine.

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 1>I had sincerely apologized and explained my situation, but I

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 1>know she's fishing for a refund. Do I refund her

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the money now that it's months later.

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Or do I just ignore her messages and move on?

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.959
<v Speaker 3>Ignore her messages and move on. Ignore them. That makes

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 3>funny message.

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, my labor was horrific, And you're like, also,

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 2>you bought a TENS machine. You test it when you

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 2>buy it. You don't just test it during labor. You

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 2>test and make sure that the thing, the item that

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:16.959
<v Speaker 2>you have purchased that is supposed to support you during

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 2>labor actually functions. And if you've waited months until after

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 2>you had the baby, then that's on you. If it

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 2>didn't work in a way that you enjoyed it or

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, I use a TENS machine during

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:28.919
<v Speaker 2>my labor and I did fuck all.

0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 3>But I'm not asking for a refund for it, you

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean.

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 2>So I would say politely respond and say, unfortunately, it

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:38.879
<v Speaker 2>has been months.

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 3>You had quite a long time to test the machine.

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 2>If you weren't happy with it, I would have happily

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 2>given you a refund, but I'm not going to refund

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 2>you after the time of which you required it, which

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<v Speaker 2>is your labor.

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<v Speaker 3>So the and then block and block and go. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to block her. I can block that bitch her

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<v Speaker 3>off at the knees. Please don't.

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<v Speaker 2>She's just had a baby and she's just obviously very emotional.

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<v Speaker 3>She's thinking about.

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<v Speaker 1>How shit the labor was two months and now she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know where to blame. The tens machine leress. So

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<v Speaker 1>everyone knows and myself. It is supposed to like take

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<v Speaker 1>pain away from the area and like refocus it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I mean, bush have one period pain. They

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<v Speaker 3>have a period pain. One.

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<v Speaker 2>The tens machine, one I use was specifically for pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 2>has different gauges. It's an electro current thing. You put

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<v Speaker 2>little pads on you. I put them on my back

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 2>and it sends little electric current, so it shocks your

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<v Speaker 2>body and it gives you a different type of sensation

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:32.360
<v Speaker 2>to focus on the shocking. I can go up to

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<v Speaker 2>like level six or something, and it can be very

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<v Speaker 2>very strong. Like for example, when I had it on

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<v Speaker 2>during some of my contractions, the tens machine hurt more

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<v Speaker 2>than the actual labour signs.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was like, this is so fucking dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm just in pain in my back and my urine.

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm in and it was so distracting for me. But

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of people, they really enjoy it. My

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<v Speaker 2>sister used it during her labors and she loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried it during my labor.

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<v Speaker 3>I hated it.

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<v Speaker 2>So everyone's exp RNs of labor is different. Everyone's going

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<v Speaker 2>to respond to a tens machine different. I would just

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<v Speaker 2>say that her expectations are probably what that tens machine

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<v Speaker 2>was going to provide her was not on par with

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<v Speaker 2>what it was able to provide. And if you tested

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<v Speaker 2>it at it was functioning well before you gave it

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<v Speaker 2>to her, she also would have tested it.

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<v Speaker 3>No one is buying a tens machine.

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<v Speaker 2>Online and going in blind and not trying it at

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<v Speaker 2>all and waiting until the day of labor to try it.

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<v Speaker 3>No one's doing that. I would probably do that like

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<v Speaker 3>that is what I would do.

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<v Speaker 2>Then that's on her, especially when she said, oh, I've

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<v Speaker 2>bought things off marketplace before and I've been stung.

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<v Speaker 3>That means she's she's checking that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would just say that maybe her experience or

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<v Speaker 2>her expectations of it didn't match what she thought. But

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 2>she paid a reduced rate for something secondhand, secondhand off marketplace.

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 2>You kind of unfortunately, some of it is you just

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<v Speaker 2>get what you get. I think I bought a tie

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<v Speaker 2>monsterra off marketplace.

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<v Speaker 3>No, what is it? A constant?

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<v Speaker 1>You brought a I don't know if you can compare

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<v Speaker 1>a plant.

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<v Speaker 3>No you can.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a really expensive one. I bought an elbow

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.399
<v Speaker 2>monsterra m M. It's like one of the ones that's

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<v Speaker 2>got white and green in it. I bought it a

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<v Speaker 2>year and a half ago and it's never given me

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<v Speaker 2>a leaf.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm convinced it's plastic. I'm convinced it costs.

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<v Speaker 2>So much money because it's like a rare plant anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>but hasn't grown anywhere.

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 3>Nothing was not well that it's not a lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Identical to the day I picked it up and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll send you a photo four fucking leaves the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But are you sure it wasn't when you bought it,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a fake.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure it's not fake. But it's absolutely a

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 3>fucking dwarf.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not calling up that woman who I spent way

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<v Speaker 2>too much money on a marketplace and being like, your

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<v Speaker 2>plant's not growing.

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<v Speaker 3>I want a refund. I'm not going not going to

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 3>do it. That's on me. You know, I bought a

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 3>ship plan on Marketplace. I don't know. I think I

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<v Speaker 3>think she tested it for sure.

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I think you're right, she definitely tested it. But she

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<v Speaker 1>went in there and she's been like, fuck, this has

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<v Speaker 1>done nothing for my labor. I am being torn from

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<v Speaker 1>my vagina, my anus.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go on.

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm this sixty dollars dance machine that I bought second

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<v Speaker 1>here on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, Marketplace is one of those you win some you

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:08.840
<v Speaker 2>lose some situations unfortunately, and I know what kind of

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:11.920
<v Speaker 2>sucks because like this is surrounding something that's really important.

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:12.280
<v Speaker 3>To her, her birth.

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<v Speaker 2>You obviously feel probably a little bit more responsible, but

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<v Speaker 2>just unfortunately, sometimes market Place it comes through with the goods.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it comes with a plastic plan.

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<v Speaker 3>You could take the good one the bad.

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