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Speaker 1: Well, what we know is today a coalition of NT

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Speaker 1: for the Aboriginal Peak Organization's Northern Territory, the Human Rights

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Speaker 1: they've penned this open letter saying that the Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: joining me on the line right now is the Chief Minister,

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Speaker 1: Evia Laula. Good morning to your Chief Minister, Kat Chief Minister.

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Speaker 2: This coalition of.

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory, community leaders and frontline services, they are calling

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Speaker 1: I mean, among some of the things that they're calling

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Speaker 1: committing to fully implementing the Aboriginal Justice Agreement programs not prisons.

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Speaker 2: Is this something that you're going to.

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Speaker 3: Sign Katie, No, we won't be signing it. And there

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Speaker 3: are some things in there that we agree with. There

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Speaker 3: that's usual when you get a group that has a

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Speaker 3: But you know, we do know the incust and incarceration

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Speaker 3: the key issues that we see. But we've also got

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Speaker 1: So Chief Minister, at this point in time, the government's

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Speaker 3: No, we're not looking at raising the age to fourteen.

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Speaker 3: So you know, that's a big step to then go

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Speaker 1: And this is a thing it's a juggle for whoever

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Speaker 2: But look, I want to move along.

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Speaker 1: The North Australian Aboriginal Justice Agency NAJA has lost its

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Speaker 1: We know that Phil Brown has stepped down in what

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Speaker 1: But they're in a situation though, you know, like this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they are as I said, listed company, So

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Speaker 1: But what would you do if you were the federal

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Speaker 3: As I said, this next step was, you know Phil

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Speaker 1: Get through this morning, Chief Minister. I want to ask

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Speaker 3: that all children in the territory reach their full potential.

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Speaker 3: That is how you dress the issues we see around poverty,

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Speaker 3: crime and so. Yeah, yeah, there are some tough things

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Speaker 3: to work through, but they're not insurmountable, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Casey, Chief Finister.

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Speaker 1: A quick one that people are pretty fired up about

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Speaker 1: is the molden oval. Now, we were contacted a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago about mold and oval at the school

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Speaker 1: there being brown and then somebody on Territory Day letting

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Speaker 1: off fireworks, basically lighting it up. That oval, we're told

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Speaker 1: by the two footy clubs, is not usable. They were

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Speaker 1: concerned that it may not be able to be used

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Speaker 1: for their sevens, their junior sevens program for rugby union.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how on earth are we in a situation

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Speaker 1: where we can't even use the school oval.

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Speaker 3: So one of the first issue is that thet You've

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Speaker 3: probably have all these facts, but the ball had been

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Speaker 3: damaged or had not been damaged. I think it needed

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Speaker 3: to be redone. So the boar now has gone to Diple,

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Speaker 3: So from the first of July the ball was with

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Speaker 3: the council. The boar now is under the care of DIPPLE,

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Speaker 3: so DIPPLE now will have maintained that bore and be

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Speaker 3: able to provide the water. The oval actually is the

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Speaker 3: Education department oval, so Education now will work to rectify

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Speaker 3: do the work that's needed. The issue with this is

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Speaker 3: a difficult issue. So the school Molden School gets funding

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Speaker 3: to maintain their oval from the Education Department. Obviously, now

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Speaker 3: this is you know, substantial work that needs to be done.

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Speaker 3: So DIPPLE will work with Education to get that oval

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Speaker 3: up to up to scratch.

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Speaker 1: Can you see how people are just shaking their heads,

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Speaker 1: like going, how we in a situation where you know

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Speaker 1: where this has happened. And I get what you're saying

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Speaker 1: that there's all different levels of responsibility, but it kind

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Speaker 1: of points to exactly what people see as being bureaucracy

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Speaker 1: gone mad well.

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Speaker 3: But this is the issue. If Palmerson Council would take

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Speaker 3: Parmason Council don't want to take over a whole heap

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Speaker 3: of ovals across you know school ovals. They it means

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Speaker 3: more costs. They would have to put up their palms

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Speaker 3: and people's rates, so that the oval men remained with

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Speaker 3: the school. Neither crocs or the Northern Sharks have the

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Speaker 3: money to be able to maintain an oval.

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Speaker 2: No, they're volunteer based.

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Speaker 3: No, that's right exactly, and don't have the funds, and

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Speaker 3: so it remains with the school. The school obviously wants

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Speaker 3: to spend more money on education rather than a facility

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Speaker 3: that's for that.

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Speaker 1: But then doesn't that show you that they don't have

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Speaker 1: enough money? Like, doesn't that then show you a school

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Speaker 1: just don't have the budget to water and oval. Like

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Speaker 1: to me that that points to again they're not being

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Speaker 1: a budget for us.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, So let's it was the this.

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Speaker 3: They do have the money. The issue was the boar.

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Speaker 3: The boar was with the council. The boar broke down.

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Speaker 3: So it was just a you know a number of things.

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Speaker 3: The boar is repaired, dipple have the boar. You know,

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Speaker 3: the water from the boar is I mean, you're paying

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Speaker 3: the power bill, but the water is not. You're not

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Speaker 3: paying a water bill for a bollwater. So it was

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Speaker 3: just this thing that you know, the holes and the

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Speaker 3: cheese pretty much lined up.

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Speaker 1: How soon do you reckon it'll be fixed and ready

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Speaker 1: to be used again.

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Speaker 3: Well, as I said, that works happening. Now, I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: put a timeline, but as I said, it is happening.

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Speaker 3: It needs to be greened up, so it needs to

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Speaker 3: be watered, it needs to be probably top dressed as well,

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Speaker 3: but that works underway. But all right, I mean we

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Speaker 3: of course, in an area like Molden, you want to

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Speaker 3: see and I love to see both that oval being

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Speaker 3: used year round. So with the Northern Sharks and Crocs,

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Speaker 3: it's two very very good teams that support Junior Sport.

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Speaker 1: Chief Finesta. We better leave it there. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: your time this morning. We'll talk to you again sooner.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for catching up with us on a different day

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Speaker 1: after I was sick on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks very much,