1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: The podcast is not afraid to say exactly what you're thinking. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Our names are Amy, Kate and Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: but we often don't have identical opinions, so sometimes things 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: can get heated. Outspoken covers all things reality TV, influencers, 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: entertainment and issues facing women. That is so fetch Thank you, 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Happy Friday, and welcome back to Outspoken. Now we're going 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: to keep things a bit upbeat today. I know most 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: of the country is currently in lockdown and we are 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: thinking of everyone. We're very lucky here in South Australia 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 2: because we are currently, as we speak, not in lockdown, 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: but people are working from home. So, Kate, you're working 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: from home at the moment. Our family members are working 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: from home and our friends and a lot of our 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: friends are getting very crafty about the ways that they're 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: trying to pretend to their bosses that they are hard 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: at work but not actually out doing other things. Could 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: I put this out It's not me. It sounds like 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: we're talking about me, but this is me. This is 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: someone that we know and we've received a snapchat from 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 2: this person who shall remain anonymous, and they have downloaded 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: an app on their computer which keeps their mouse operating 23 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: because they have a system at their work, like I 24 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: think it's teams and you can their boss's boss can 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: basically see when they're online. This person has rigged it up. 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: I keep going, he keep saying, Hey, you're like, you're 27 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: like this person. 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: He it is a he. 29 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: I don't think it gives away who is so I 30 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: actually thought, wow, that's really clever. The length that people 31 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: go to to get out of doing work. Do you 32 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: know what really screws people over is when their bosses 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,279 Speaker 2: demand having a nine o'clock meeting. 34 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: Zoom or zoom call. 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: Oh bloody zoom has screwed everyone over because the thing is, 36 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: I'm working, but I may have just gotten up and 37 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: haven't had a shower, and you don't really want to 38 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: be on zoom looking half asleep in good job? Could 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: you pretend that your camera's not working or something like that. 40 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: I haven't tried it yet. 41 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: We do. Do you have three staff meetings a week, 42 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: so fortunately only once at nine o'clock in the morning. 43 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: How many people do think out there at the moment 44 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: that are working from home, that are doing absolutely nothing? 45 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: Problems a lot of. 46 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: I reckon eighty percent because it always gets me thinking 47 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: about I feel like there are jobs out in society 48 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: that people that people actually rock up to each day 49 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: and they do nothing wells they exist, Like, how do 50 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: these roles exist? It's kind of like they're just getting 51 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: paid to have to be there. 52 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: Yes, just front up. 53 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: Reason I were saying, because we're both working from home, 54 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: and we were saying, geez, like, you get a lot 55 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: done when you are at home because you're not having 56 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: all the chit chat with people in the office and 57 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: going to get a coffee and this and that. 58 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: We have been. 59 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: Saying for the past four you because for those who 60 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: don't know, Amy and I have run our pr business 61 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: from home and every morning. You know, I feel like 62 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: there's a lot of guilt when you do work from 63 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: home because people expect you to be on your computer 64 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: twenty four to seven, not talking to anyone. 65 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: Well, most of the time. At my previous job, because 66 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: we all hated it there so much. 67 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: We would come into work and we'd all have to 68 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: have a massive vent about what was going on at 69 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: the place until the boss came in and then you 70 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: started doing well. 71 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 72 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: The thing is, you know, working at so many different places. 73 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: I would hate to be actually have a business that 74 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: has employees because I would be so suspicious of them. 75 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: I probably would be that asshole that. 76 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: Was having nine am Zoom meetings then chicking in on 77 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: zoom again at twelve and then at five pm, just 78 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: because you know, the bullshit that people do pull behind 79 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: your back, But when you're in the situation, you're like, 80 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: you know, coming up with the ideas. I'd love to 81 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: hear what lengths have people heard others have gone to 82 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: to pretend that they're working during the lockdown. No shame, 83 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: this could be you that's doating. 84 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: No shame at all. 85 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: I am Sarah's Day and I'm a health and fitness guru. 86 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: Sarah's Day has been criticized for traveling across New South 87 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: Wales while being symptomatic for COVID. The health and fitness 88 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: influencer and Now she had tested negative to COVID, but 89 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: disclosed she only got tested once returning home from Byron Bay, 90 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 2: despite having a bad cough for several days. Firstly, Kate, 91 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: for those who don't know who is Sarah's Day, well, 92 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: Sarah's Day's real name is actually Sarah Stevenson or Sarah Tills. 93 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: She's yet to officially change her name since getting married, 94 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: but everyone knows of her as Sarah's Day. So she 95 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: is a self proclaimed holistic health princess and probably one 96 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: of Australia's most controversial influences. So Sarah has been accused 97 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: of promoting dangerous diets in the past and also spreading 98 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: medical misinformation surrounding cervical displacia. Last year, she was involved 99 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 2: in a string of controversies from cultural appropriation to ruining 100 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: the reputation of a small business. Well, I think we 101 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: should get into Sarah's latest controversy, and this one involved 102 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: a trip to Byron Bay. So she and her husband 103 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: Kurt Tills. They traveled to Byron Bay to do a 104 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: photo shoot for Sarah's latest active wear line with White 105 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: Fox Boutique. Gosh, it always seems to be controversy when 106 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: White Fox Boutique is involved, I know. So the controversy 107 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 2: started when Sarah initially started to post about her son 108 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: Fox in the lead up to this trip. So Fox 109 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: had had a really high temperature and she had been 110 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: telling her followers that he'd been sick, so there was 111 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: already a bit of feeling in the air of Oh no, 112 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: there's going to be another controversy because fans thought that 113 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: Sarah might bring Fox along with her on the trip. 114 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 2: And it's not the first time Fox has had a 115 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: really high temperature, because I think back last year he 116 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: was actually hospitalized after having a very high temperature. So 117 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people questioning whether he should have 118 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: been rushed to hospital earlier last time. So I think 119 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: people were very concerned about Fox. Well, we did recently 120 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: see Chloe Zepp treat her son Artie's high temperature with 121 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: apple side of vinegar, so she dowsed a towel in 122 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: apple side of vinegar put it on his head. So 123 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: I mean, luckily it wasn't treated in this Yeah, I 124 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: mean we're not calling into question what Sarah should have 125 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: done with Fox. It sounded like he had a high temperature, 126 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: but people were concerned that maybe he had the symptoms 127 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: of COVID, and also Sarah's sister was suffering with similar symptoms, 128 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: so you guess that it was kind of being spread. 129 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,119 Speaker 1: Around the family. 130 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like there should have been talks 131 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: of maybe canceling this trip due to sickness circulating amongst 132 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: that family. Also the fact that during this time, this 133 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: is before Sydney went into a lockdown, but there were 134 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: cases popping up around Sydney and the advice was really 135 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: stay at home. So during the trip to Byron Bay, 136 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: Sarah shared an Insta story. 137 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: Which she told her followers that she had. 138 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 2: Begun to lose her voice, and she said the reason 139 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: behind her losing the voice was not that she was sick, 140 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: but because she was talking really loudly at a restaurant. 141 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: I almost felt like she was trying to convince herself 142 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: that that was also the way she'd lost her voice, 143 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: because she was saying, Oh, this always happens to me, 144 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: and I felt like, I've never heard you talk about this before. 145 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. 146 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: Well, since that occasion, Sarah went a little bit mia 147 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: on an Instagram story and she reappeared on Sunday morning 148 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: to address why she hadn't spoken to her audience in 149 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: three days, which, to be honest, is pretty unusual for 150 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: Sarah because she's always narrating her life on Instagram story. 151 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: So Sarah explained that she was sick but wanted to 152 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: wait until she got her negative COVID result till she 153 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: came online and explained how she was feeling so. In 154 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: the story, Sarah confirmed that her test result had come 155 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: back negative and that the test actually wasn't too bad, 156 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: despite Kurt being a bit of a baby about it. 157 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 2: She also explained that she had vlogged the whole trip 158 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: to Byron Bay, but as Sophie touched on, she had 159 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: started to lose her voice, so towards the end of 160 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: the trip she wasn't flogging. Sarah said her only symptom 161 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: was a cough, and that she was pretty sure it 162 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,119 Speaker 2: was bronchitis or something because she never gets a cough. 163 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: This bad bronchitis is quite a bad illness to have. 164 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: It's not like you're like, oh, I just thought it 165 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: was a cult. And also, it's the clear signs. It's 166 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: the clear symptoms of COVID having a bad cough. That's 167 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: what we've all had drilled into us. The funniest thing 168 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: is she kept pushing that she thinks she only had 169 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: a cough. However, when you google bronchitis and the symptoms 170 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: which she said she thought she had, the symptoms are, 171 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: of course the cough, shortness of breath, fatigue, and a 172 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: slight fee and chills, which is all the same symptoms 173 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: as COVID. I think the thing that has aimed a 174 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: lot of people is the fact that Sarah did have 175 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: the symptoms while in Byron Bay, but she didn't go 176 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: and get a test. She traveled home and then got 177 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: a test, potentially putting people at risk. Yeah, and for 178 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: those who aren't living in Australia and don't know what 179 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: the current situation is, the area Sarah lives in is 180 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: currently in a two week lockdown, so Greater Sydney, the 181 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: Blue Mountains, the Central Coast and Woollongong went it to 182 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: a two day lockdown on Saturday, the twenty sixth of 183 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: June at six pm, so residents in the affected areas 184 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: are only allowed to leave home for essentral reasons. And 185 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: at the time there were eighty cases of COVID in 186 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: New South Wales, So the situation in New South Wales 187 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: has been evolving for around two weeks now with cases 188 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: continuing to pop up. So, as you said, Amy, Sarah 189 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: and Kurt did make the decision to travel while New 190 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: South Wales was experiencing COVID outbreak. So while it wasn't 191 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: in lockdown at the time and they didn't break any 192 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: rules by traveling, it does seem very top death to 193 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: be traveling around that time, And what has upset people 194 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: is a fact as you say, that she was symptomatic 195 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: and decided to still travel, so she only waited to 196 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: get home until she had her COVID test. I think 197 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: people also feel like her silence online was quite deceptive. 198 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: So people feel as though she was trying to hide 199 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: something by not sharing the fact that she did have 200 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: to go and get a COVID test and that she 201 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: was unwell. I mean, I wonder if there was a 202 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: bit of damage control happening behind the scenes, because yeah, 203 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: could you imagine if she did find out she had 204 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: COVID and she would be responsible for that spread. So 205 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: do you think Sarah should have actually been open about 206 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: the process of getting a COVID test rather than updating 207 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: everyone once she had the results. I mean, I can 208 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: definitely see from her point of view why she did 209 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: try and hide it, because I don't know, I feel 210 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: like there would be a lot of uncertainty for her 211 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: as to whether she was sick, which might have escalated 212 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: into receiving backlash and. 213 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: Further hate over it. So I can see why they 214 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: did try and keep it quiet. 215 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: But at the same time, perhaps she shouldn't have been 216 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: s the fact that she was losing her voice a 217 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: few days before. I think it made her look a 218 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: little bit guilty, the fact that she waited to share 219 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 2: the result later. But as Sophie said, I can understand 220 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: why she wouldn't want to share that process because people 221 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 2: knew that she was traveling. Yeah, but it doesn't make 222 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: it right. Like the thing is, if you're having to 223 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: hide your behavior, you obviously know dip down that you've 224 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: probably done the wrong thing. 225 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: And I really like when influencers document. 226 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: Their COVID test process because I think it makes it well. 227 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: It brings awareness, firstly, but it kind of makes it 228 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: a bit of a norm that if you are feeling sick, 229 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: go get tested. The thing that she did wrong in 230 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: the first place was not getting the test done in 231 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: byron base. 232 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: So that's clearly why she was trying. 233 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: To hide it. Oh very much. So well, it's safe 234 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: to say. Backlash occurred after Sarah posted her stories about 235 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: her COVID test, and she did go on to her 236 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: stories to defend herself, and she captured the stories social 237 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: media COVID trolls are on fire tonight girls. She also 238 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: wrote I have a cough relaxed COVID police. So this 239 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: is what she said on her story just for the. 240 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: Sake of getting this message across Oh my goodness on 241 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: Instagram or social media. Whenever you say I feel a 242 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: bit sick, people don't even listen to the rest of 243 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: your story and they just send you a DM abusing 244 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: you for having COVID and spreading it to the whole 245 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: of Sydney. Wow. 246 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 4: I I was going through my DMS because I was 247 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 4: responding about like stuff about fox and whatever, and so 248 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 4: many people have gone on there and said, like, so 249 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 4: rude of you to not get a COVID test and 250 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: you're infecting people. 251 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: I talked about it this morning. I when I got 252 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: tested for COVID, I do not have it. I'm negative. 253 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: I have a doctor. You can't even go to the 254 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: doctor for a cough if you haven't tested negative. You 255 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 3: have to show your negative testing to eat and get 256 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: to the doctor. So I'm going to the doctor on Tuesday. 257 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: Someone just commented saying croup is going around, which kids 258 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: get grouped like a cough. So I just want to 259 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: say again, I do not have COVID. I have been tested. 260 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: I don't have it, so stop saying I'm infecting crinula. 261 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 2: It does concern me that every time Sarah does talk 262 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 2: about feedback that she gets some followers, she labels it 263 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: trolling because I think that a lot of people had 264 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: an issue with this, because it did seem as if 265 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 2: Sarah was doing something wrong. Yeah, they did seem to 266 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: be pretty legitimate concerns. I mean at the moment, obviously, 267 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 2: as a community, we're all being told to hold one 268 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: another accountable and try and stay safe. I mean, Sydney's 269 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: in a two week lockdown, potentially going to extend it further. 270 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: Of course, people are going to be alarmed by this 271 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: sort of behavior. I don't mean to stretch, but was 272 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: it just me or the references to COVID trolls and 273 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: COVID police have a bit of an anti vaxx sentiment 274 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 2: to it. I don't want to accuse anyone to be 275 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: anti vax and I want to confirm that Sarah has 276 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: never made public comment on it. But it's just something 277 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: that popped into my mind. Because you usually associate anti 278 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: vaxx's is being very like holistic on the wellness train. 279 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I think it's a bit of 280 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: a stretch, to be honest, I think though, that she 281 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 2: was trying to turn the narrative back to sympathy towards her. 282 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 2: So I don't I don't think it had anything. 283 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: To do about it. 284 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, like if someone, you know, if someone 285 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: told me about my COVID test, I wouldn't be saying, oh, 286 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: the COVID police, Well, I just try and ignore and 287 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 2: try and change the discussion to something else. 288 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: Something that did. 289 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: Irk a lot of people as well is that she 290 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: seemed more concerned with the fact that she wasn't able 291 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 2: to exercise a sick and it's like, oh my god. 292 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: She'd always talks about listening to your body. Well, in 293 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: that situation, you've got to listen to your body and 294 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: actually look after yourself. 295 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: I mean, is this I think best of your problem. 296 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 2: I think that's what's the message she was trying to push, 297 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: but it just didn't come across. 298 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: Right at all. 299 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: Well, you guys will be happy to know that Sarah 300 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: did not have bronchitis. She she did go to the 301 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: doctor with Fox on Tuesday and confirmed that, you know, 302 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: she didn't have bronchitis, which we all knew, but she 303 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 2: kind of glossed over what was actually. 304 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: Wrong with her. I'm guessing a cold probably, so. 305 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: On Wednesday, Sarah took to her Instagram story to share 306 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: her skin routine, but before she got into that routine, 307 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: this is what she said about the. 308 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: COVID situation in New South Wales. 309 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: I think I just assume that everyone kind of knows 310 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 3: what's going on in the world, and like everyone keeps 311 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: up to date with who is in lock down, which 312 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 3: is really naive because I don't even know who's in lockdown, 313 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: because this morning I did a story saying Fox is 314 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: already bored in lockdown and it's day three, which apparently 315 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: it's day four. 316 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: Whatever. 317 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: We're just into a little lockdown period. 318 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: People have said this is Sydney's second. 319 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: Lockdown, but I feel I feel like we've I feel 320 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: like we had more than two lockdowns. Maybe there was 321 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: two and then we're just social distance. 322 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. 323 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: Anyway, people have been asking me, why is Sydney in lockdown? 324 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: What's going on? 325 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: I don't really know. I'm just following the rules. 326 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a COVID outbreak, of course, I guess 327 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: I think that was one in like North Sydney or something. So, yeah, 328 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: if you ask that question, I'm the wrong person to 329 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: answer it. I'm just in lockdown, and that's it's not 330 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: me personally like I am, but Sydney is in general anyway. 331 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: I don't think it could be clearer from those comments 332 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: that she is definitely living in a bubble in Crinula. 333 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: It seems like nothing from the outside world exists to 334 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: them at the moment. I mean, how can you not 335 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: educate yourself on what is happening in your own state? 336 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: Do you think that she's sort of almost playing up 337 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: that she's naive to it all, and that's maybe why 338 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: she traveled to Byron Bay. 339 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: But to me it just sounded selfish. No, I think 340 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: a bit of both. 341 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: I do think that Sarah was purposely trying to play 342 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: dumb about COVID to excuse her behavior, that she traveled 343 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: while being symptomatic. I'm soor but that just enrages me 344 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: more because I think, you know, as a member of 345 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: the community, you should be keeping up to date with 346 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: what the rules are. 347 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: Who's in lockdown? 348 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, she's got this audience of followers, 349 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: can she not be I don't know. To me, it 350 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: just seems incredibly naive and selfish. Yeah, spread awareness about it. 351 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: Who I'm sorry, who doesn't sit down and watch the 352 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: press conferences or watches the news because it does affect 353 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: every single person. 354 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be affecting her businesses as well? Well? 355 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: I don't think it's really affecting her business because she 356 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: can vlog from home, she can do her skincare product 357 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: adds from home. I think what annoyed me is that 358 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: she had this sense of being quite proud about being 359 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: ignorant to the fact of what was going on in 360 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: the I just think it's very tone deaf because there 361 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: are people dying, there are people that are away from 362 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: loved ones, that are losing money, that are losing jobs, 363 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: and she didn't even have the courtesy, Like she kept 364 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: rolling her eyes and making faces about it, and it 365 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: was all very disrespectful. But how often are we also 366 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: told to keep an eye on hotspots or exposure zones too, 367 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: So to openly say that you don't care about any 368 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: of this and you're not keeping a track of it 369 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: is terrible. Another thing that I picked up on in 370 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: Sarah's chat to her Instagram story that I thought was 371 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: a little bit strange was that she mentioned that Kurt 372 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: and Fox were out because they were picking up takeaway. 373 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: To me, it seemed a little bit odd to allow 374 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: your sutton to be out and about when the COVID 375 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: situation is quite dire. In Sydney, there's a lot of 376 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: community transmission going on and children can't wear masks. So 377 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: to me, I was just like, really that being said, 378 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't feel like we should be 379 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: shaming people's parenting because you know, you don't understand how 380 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: difficult it is. Yeah, Sophie, but I'm not trying to 381 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: shame her. But the fact that she seems to be 382 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: so either she's pretending to be unaware or she actually 383 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: is unaware of how serious the situation is. I mean, 384 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: we're in Adelaide, we had five cases that are apparently 385 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: under control, but you know, I'm watching the news every 386 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 2: moment to find out what's going on. They are gold 387 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 2: have been picking up takeaway in a car. We don't 388 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 2: know that they were getting. I don't think they were 389 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: getting McDonald. 390 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: Damy what drive through that they had been getting. 391 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: But also can I say, like, there is nothing worse 392 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: than seeing people at the shops without masks on. So 393 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 2: in adelaide. At the moment, it's not mandatory, but it 394 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: is highly recommended. And I was so enraged to go 395 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: to my local shopping center and see about ninety percent 396 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: of individuals. 397 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: Not wearing a mask. 398 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I'm not just doing it to protect myself. 399 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 2: I'm doing it to protect elderly people in the community. 400 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 2: I feel the same way too. So if I went 401 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: to the shop today and it was probably about twenty 402 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 2: percent of people had masks. But when I saw the 403 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 2: people with masks, I was like, yes, you look at 404 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 2: the others. Yeah, and you look at the other people, 405 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: You're like, what way? Well, back to the Sarah's Day drama. 406 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: Do you guys think this will affect Sarah and Kurt's following. 407 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 2: I feel like so many people a vocal about this 408 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: because a lot of the time, topics on Sarah's Day 409 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: get posted in our Facebook community, and I feel like 410 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: everyone's almost got fatigue on it because they're a bit 411 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: frustrated that all these things happen. 412 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: People get outraged about it, but. 413 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: Nothing seems to actually affect her platform or position, I suppose. 414 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 2: So if you look at Social Blade, which I did, 415 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: Kurt has lost one hundred and forty followers in the 416 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: last thirty days, and Sarah has lost five hundred and 417 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 2: twenty two in the last two weeks, So it seems 418 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: like some of her behavior on the dramas is causing 419 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: people to unfollow. But when you look at how many 420 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 2: followers she has, she's got over it. With one point 421 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 2: five million followers, A thousand's not that many. 422 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. 423 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: Controversies do prompt people to follow other influences, so it 424 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: could be a little bit of that as well. I mean, 425 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: it might be better to look at someone's comment and 426 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: see the sort of engagement, whether it's a negative engagement 427 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: or positive engagement, if it's happening on it. When Sarah 428 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: deletes all the negative comments, it's hard to tell. 429 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: If you have a partner and you guys are in love, 430 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 3: which me and London very much in love, they're going 431 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: to go into that fee no matter what, whether. 432 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: You're wrong or right. I was wrong. On Wednesday, London 433 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 2: go and announced she was flying home to the United 434 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: States with her son at Stone. However, her Husbandryese Hawkins, 435 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 2: was a notable absentee, which sparked breakup rumers Kate. For 436 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 2: those who don't know who are London and Reese Well. 437 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: Reese Hawkins is an Australian personal trainer who rose to 438 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: fame when he began dating Australian influencer Tammy Hembro. So 439 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 2: the pair have two children together, Wolf and Saskia, but 440 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: the couple split in twenty eighteen. So London is a 441 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: twenty three year old Texas born model who started dating 442 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 2: Reese after he's split with Tammy. Their relationship is quite 443 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: controversial as London was exposed as being a bit of 444 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 2: a fangirl for Tammy Hembro and glowingly commented on the 445 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: former couple's family fo poos, which was very awkward. So 446 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: London has called Australia home for several years and it 447 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: is the first time she's returned home to Texas for 448 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: two and a half years. London and Reese got engaged 449 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: in August and the next month they announced they were pregnant, 450 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: and then in December twenty twenty one, it resurprised everyone 451 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: when he referred to London as his wife in an 452 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 2: Instagram birthday post, so he received a lot of questions 453 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: about that and he did confirm we are married. We 454 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: will be having a proper wedding after COVID and then 455 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: in March twenty twenty, Reese and London welcomed their son Stone. So, 456 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: I mean, to me, they haven't been going out for 457 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: very long. They've only recently just got married. What is 458 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: making everyone think that there is a split between the 459 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 2: two of them? I mean, could it potentially Reese just 460 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: not be able to get over to America because of 461 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: the current situation going on. Well, I mean I do 462 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: think that is the case. I mean, London really hasn't 463 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 2: helped the situation because she shared a photo of herself 464 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: wearing a mask with Stone strapped to her chest in 465 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: a sling in the airport bathroom and wrote, can't believe 466 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 2: the day has finally come. We're going home. She then 467 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: continued to document their flight home, showing Stone watching the 468 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 2: in flight entertainment in his business class seat, but there 469 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 2: was no mention of Reese, no photos of Reese. It 470 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: was quite clear he wasn't on the trip. I did 471 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: have a look at her Instagram page and I saw 472 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: that she did post a photo of whom only six 473 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: days ago, glowingly speaking about him. Yeah, I mean, she's 474 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: still wearing her engagement ring She's been photographed in America 475 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 2: wearing the ring, so it doesn't seem like they've actually split. 476 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: But I find it strange that she hasn't addressed Reese's absence. 477 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: Absence at all. 478 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: Do you think maybe Reese doesn't want her to talk 479 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 2: about what's going on because he seems to have taken 480 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: a sort of a step back from Instagram. I feel 481 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: like maybe he has requested not to be discussed. 482 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: But they know that they're a very controversial couple. 483 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: They've always got Tammy's stands commenting on their relationship status 484 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 2: and on their relationships. So why not just put a 485 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: post saying, look where visiting my family? Reese's staying here 486 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: because he's got two kids and there's custody issues, you know, 487 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 2: going on, why not just say that, I mean, just 488 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 2: creating speculation. I mean, as you say, if they just 489 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: had confirmed the fact that, yes, he is staying at home, 490 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: I'm going here for X amount of time, there probably 491 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: would have been less conversation going on about this and 492 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: less attention. Well, there's so many question marks, particularly because 493 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: London is an American citizen, and it's going to be 494 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: very hard for her to get back into the country. 495 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 2: Now that she's in America. 496 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 4: I had the most insane, crazy week last week. 497 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: I actually didn't end up logging any of it because 498 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: I knew it would be so intense. 499 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: I feel like we have been waiting for this announcement 500 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 2: for a while. We discussed her on last week's episode, 501 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: and Lily Brown has finally revealed that she has in 502 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: fact been working on a pajama range. 503 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: I feel like we guessed it. 504 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: We said either sleepwear or lounge wear. I feel like 505 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 2: it's a bit of both. Looking at the photo because 506 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: to me, the photo that she announced the sleepwear range 507 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: looked like you could wear that out and about Yeah, Well, 508 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: she shared a photo of herself wearing dusky pink flared 509 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 2: pajama pants and top and wrote introducing Chill Premium Timeless 510 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: Sleepwear Designed with Love by Me for You, and she 511 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: explained that she had been creating the pieces for over 512 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: two years and completely poured her heart and soul into 513 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: the brand. 514 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: Now, what did you like? Yeah? 515 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: I thought it was Yeah. I did think they look 516 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: like a very quality item. What I did like about 517 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 2: the campaign was it was quite inclusive and for a 518 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 2: startup business. She does actually go up to a size eighteen, 519 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 2: which a lot of brands do not well. I did 520 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: notice that the Blue Tick brigade were all out in 521 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 2: force sharing Lily's announcement. So m Davies shared at Mitch 522 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: Third Ruby Tuesday, Matthews, Cardia Milan and also Sharon Orville. Well, 523 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: it's no surprise that Chills Instagram account now has ten 524 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: thousand followers and the post announcing the brand has received 525 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 2: twenty four thousand likes. The thing that is quite apparent 526 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: after this reveal, though, is that a lot of people 527 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 2: are very fatigued by influencers bringing out sleepwear brands. Oh well, 528 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 2: just clothing brands. I think in general it's like it's 529 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: not very revolutionary to bring out a plain pair of 530 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 2: lounge whear or sleepwear. I mean this was a little 531 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: bit different with the flares, but a lot of people 532 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: talking about it in our group. 533 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: So if you go and look at pajama flares, yeah, but. 534 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 2: Like that's all the sleep but haven't you seen Sarah's 535 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 2: Day in a flair bloody lounge read shit, all the 536 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 2: flares are giving me flashbacks to high school and wearing 537 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: those face off pants. 538 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: Those blue ones. 539 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: Can I just say people were discussing this in our group, 540 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: and I had to agree with them. 541 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: I couldn't think. 542 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 2: Of anything worse than lying in bed with flares because 543 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 2: they would just ride up. But I have to sleep 544 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: in either shorts or underpants because I cannot stand pajama 545 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: pants riding up. You got to get the ones from 546 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 2: Peter Alexander that are cuffed at the bottom so they 547 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: stay still. 548 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: They're two contained though as well. 549 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: I found it quite humorous because Lily has gone for 550 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: that Parisian aesthetic and she's posted a picture of herself 551 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: sitting in front of a table with a croissant on 552 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 2: a plate. But someone in our community pointed out that 553 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 2: it looks like a hot chicken and a bag from Woollies. 554 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: You said, croissant, very fancy. Then I have to ask 555 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: our community. Maybe we'll put it as a thread in 556 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: our group, how do you pronounce croissant? It doesn't it 557 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,479 Speaker 2: be hard for people to write yeah, but well they 558 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: can spell it out because I had an argument with 559 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: Brandon about it because he says it in a very 560 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: ocer Australian way. He says it's not croyzy, but says crossan. 561 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's just wrong. I looked it up. 562 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: I did a little pronunciation thing, and he was telling 563 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: me that I sound like a wanker saying it croissant. 564 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: Well, that's how the French say. They do. 565 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 2: I've been to France and that makes me sound like 566 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: even more of a wanker, but they do, says. I 567 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: know what, though, you shouldn't be going by what Sophie says, 568 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: because she got absolutely roasted in our Q and a 569 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: on our Instagram account because someone's pointing out that you 570 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: don't say legans properly, and I think I've just said 571 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: it wrong as well. It's leggings because Amy always pronounces 572 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 2: it leggings, which is apparently correct, and it enrages me 573 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: when you say it in that way. But now I'm 574 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: hearing that, I'm round. 575 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm confused. Is it legans or leggings? 576 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: I would say legans, I would say leg Maybe we're wrong, 577 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: Maybe it's a South Australian thing. If anyone is from 578 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 2: South Australia, can you please back us up or throw 579 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: us under the bus. Anyway back to Brown, Just to 580 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: wrap it up, she did a Q and A about 581 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 2: her brand launch and she did mention her relationships at her, 582 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: so she confirmed that she is actually still with her partner, 583 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: but he was just in another room while she was 584 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 2: filming the Q and A. 585 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 3: Hi guys, my name is Sammy Robinson and welcome back 586 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 3: to Bondaye Sam's YouTube channel. 587 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: Now, rumors are circulating that influencers Sammy Robinson and her 588 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 2: partner Nick Weakley have split up. I've got to check 589 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 2: in a UOK over this, Sophie, because I remember last 590 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 2: time they broke up, and that was about three years ago, 591 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 2: and Sophie was quite distraught over this. It was almost 592 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 2: if she was going through a brain. It's such a 593 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: lovely couple. I mean, I know that we all say 594 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: that the gram isn't true, but so lovely that there's 595 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 2: a rumor that Nick cheated on Sammy and that's why 596 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: they Okay, who the fuck? If I saw it in 597 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: our community, someone said, who would cheat on the better 598 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: looking version of gig? Now? Okay, Well, I did a 599 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: bit of a deep dive back into their relationship. So 600 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: the pair have been together for five years. They briefly 601 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: broke up three years ago and then, as we know, 602 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: got back together. So Sammy and Nick opened up about 603 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 2: their first breakup in a Q and A back in 604 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, so Nick said that the breakup happened from 605 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 2: a build up of issues they had and he needed 606 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 2: time to think about what those issues were and get 607 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 2: through them. He said he also had to work on 608 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: his own shit, and there was a lot of stuff 609 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: happening at the time, so it really didn't say. 610 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: Anything, so it happened. Yeah, there's just a lot of 611 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: shit going on. 612 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: Sammy also said that you know, people break up once 613 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: and think that you're screwed. 614 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: However, she thought that. 615 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 2: Their relationship was now stronger because they were back in 616 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: that fun honeymoon face. So they did not touch on 617 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: the cheating rumors. Well, I'm not surprised. It's not something 618 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: you really want to open we talk about when you're 619 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: back together on a qbe Well, that being said, there 620 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 2: were other YouTube videos where Sammy kind of threw a 621 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: bit of shade at Nick, so I think that's where 622 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 2: those rumors really started from. Now, there has been no 623 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: official word from Sammy or Nick on whether they have 624 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: actually parted ways this time around. Unlike last time, they 625 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: are still friends on Instagram, which is really interesting because 626 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 2: we spoke about Madison Willi and Jonathan how we believe 627 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: they've broken up and they are still friends. Maybe these 628 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 2: influences are getting a little bit older and more mature 629 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: to do the block. Also, it's just makes it so 630 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: obvious to everyone that you have broken up when you 631 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: unfollow each other. So I feel like the whole the unfollowers. 632 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: I think when the relationship is completely over and everyone 633 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: kind of knows it's over, I feel like we should 634 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: get into some of the reasons why people think that 635 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: they have broken up. So the first one is that 636 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: Nick hasn't appeared on her Instagram feed since April fourth, 637 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 2: and she hasn't appeared on. 638 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: His since April tenth. 639 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: I did see he was posting a lot about real estate, 640 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: so he is a real estate agent, but he was 641 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: talking about joining. 642 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: Like her brand. 643 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: I thought he had officially joined one Mile, so that's 644 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: another reason he seems to be back into the real estate. Well. 645 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: I also thought it was a bit weird that she 646 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: bought that new apartment, but that they didn't buy it together. 647 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: Considering that they have been going out for five years, 648 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: you think that might be the next step for someone, 649 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: but you've got to remember they are in their early twenties. 650 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: So I don't he's not. He's twenty eight. 651 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well that is a bit strange, but I mean, 652 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: I don't think we should be able to comment on 653 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: people's financial situation. She's probably earning a hell of a 654 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: lot more money than he is, exactly a financial situation. 655 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: I think it's a smart move on her behalf now. 656 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: As well as not appearing on each other's feed for 657 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: the past four weeks, they also haven't been in each 658 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: other's stories, which is a bit unusual because they used 659 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: to constantly share about one another. They're always go down 660 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: at Chuockers together getting burgers right. And the other little 661 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: hint is that she shared an Instagram story recently about 662 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: being all alone. Well, you're also missing the fact that 663 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: last month, so she the last time she uploaded on 664 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: YouTube was a month ago, and in the video she 665 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,719 Speaker 2: spoke about how she's been feeling really down about some 666 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: life changes that are happening. Now I have assumed it 667 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: was talking about her move, but it very much seems 668 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: to be pointing towards the direction of a breakup, because 669 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: she talked her audience through how to look after yourself 670 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: when things are changing and self care. So I feel 671 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: like that is a big clue that they have it up. 672 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: Do you know what I did think was a bit unusual. 673 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: In this Q and A where they were talking about 674 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: their relationship two years ago, the question was what was 675 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: your first reaction when you met one another? And she 676 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: kind of went to town on him, like she said 677 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: that she didn't think he was very good looking, she 678 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: didn't like what he was wearing. Wow, And he said 679 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: his first reaction was wow, I've never seen a girl 680 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: look like her before. Do you think it was a 681 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: bit of a power play considering he maybe has cheated 682 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 2: on her? Well, it could have been, because then well 683 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: then he kind of tried to take the power back 684 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: by saying, oh, yeah, but you know, looks wise, we're 685 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: really interested in each other, But then you know, emotionally, 686 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 2: it took a little bit of a while to get 687 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: the relationship there. 688 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 689 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: I feel like it's always fascinating with relationships that you 690 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: do perceive as being perfect online when you hear their 691 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: little chink in the arm or something's happened, it's quite interesting. 692 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: I do wonder when she will announce the breakup. It's 693 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: sort of similar to Madison Woollie and Jonathan Sour You know, 694 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: you put your relationship out there, but then suddenly they 695 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: don't want to actually comment on what's the go The 696 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: thing is they might be still trying to work out 697 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: what the goal is themselves, and they might not want 698 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 2: to publicly comment until they've worked out. 699 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: And I think's happened, and I think as well. 700 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we're saying, oh, as follows, we 701 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: demand to know. 702 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: It really is none of our business. 703 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: At the end of the tall, it is, but it 704 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: isn't because they get a lot of benefit. They get 705 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: a large paycheck, they get a lot of admiration for 706 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: sharing their lives. And if you're going to put your 707 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: life and relationship out there, I do think a part 708 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 2: of it is saying, yeah. 709 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: We have broken up. 710 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: But also I think some people try and hold them 711 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: to the fact that they might get together, so you 712 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: don't want to come out back together. 713 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: So you don't want to come out and. 714 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: Say oh yeah, or all your dirty laundry, and then 715 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: the next week you're back together, a bit like Shiny Grimmin. 716 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: Why we broke up, and then one minute you're back. 717 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: Well, particularly with Sammy because she's not really posting regular 718 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: content on YouTube anywhere anymore. So I do feel a 719 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: little bit let out of her life anyway. Now, now 720 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: this is still on the topic of Sammy Robinson, but 721 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: a little bit random. So we have noticed, and I 722 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,479 Speaker 2: don't know if any of our listeners have picked up 723 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: on this, that there is a piece of artwork that 724 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: is doing the rounds in influencers houses. So I first 725 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: spotted it at Sarah's Day's new mansion. So the artworking question, 726 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 2: it's kind of an abstract piece. It's normally the ones 727 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 2: I've seen a light pinkin color and they've got one. 728 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: It looks kind of looks like a spring in there. 729 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: There's lots of like random little abstract things on that. 730 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: They're pretty cool. 731 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm so heavily influenced that I like it 732 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: now that I've seen it in everyone house. 733 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: Lily Brown has it. 734 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: I think I saw Victoria Divine with one too. 735 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, she had a similar print. It was a little 736 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: bit different. 737 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: So it's funny though, because I do recall Sarah's Day 738 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: saying that hers was one of a car. Yes, I 739 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: think that they make them slightly a little bit different. 740 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: So let us know if you have spotted this in 741 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 2: an Influencers room. I know will put a picture of 742 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 2: it in our Facebook community. Okay, you're looking for some artwork. 743 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: Are we going to see that next. 744 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: In your house? Mabe? 745 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: Well, not an influence I probably could afford it. Well, 746 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: I think that's all we have time for. Thank you 747 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: so much for joining us for today's episode. If you 748 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: have enjoyed it, could you please make sure you are 749 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 2: subscribed on either Apple Podcasts or Spotify and leave us 750 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: a five star review. And if you haven't already, please 751 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: join our Facebook community, which is outspoken the podcast community.