WEBVTT - BRENDA BRESSED - RUPAULS DRAG RACE - STAN AUSTRALIA 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.680 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.960 TV Reload the podcast last week. They're right. Hey guys, 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:06.960 welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:10.080 for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Brenda Brest, 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:13.480 who was the fourth eliminated queen from Rupaul'sdrag Raced down 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:17.040 Under season four. This week, I had no idea who 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:19.239 was going to be going home. I thought everyone in 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:22.279 this episode was great, and Brenda had been doing really 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:24.720 well in the competition so far, winning the snatch game 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:25.880 and having. 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:27.640 Natural banter with the other girls. 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:29.960 But I guess this is a sign of how good 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.080 the talent is at this point of the competition. 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:33.599 Brenda will share what it. 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:36.760 Takes to read and what her mantra is with getting 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.159 that right. We will unpack the ability to do confessionals 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:42.960 and match that with what you're bringing to the workroom. 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.760 I ask about the makeover challenge and what on God's 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.200 Earth had she given her librarian. You will get everything 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.000 from who might go home next, considering Max was in 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:56.840 the lip sync, how long they had with their makeover partner, 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:59.880 and what they think of not being called a rue girl. 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:02.960 There is so much to talk about with so many 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.119 inside revelations. So guys sit back and relax as we 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.280 unpacked the wonderful world of RuPaul's drag Race down Under 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.400 season four. Well, I just think it's hilarious because you've 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:14.760 been in Barrick and Reservoir. It's like you're rimming Melbourne 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:16.039 because you're on the outside of it. 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.640 Look for me, Reservoir compared to Berck Reservoir is a lot. 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:21.640 I feel like I'm in the inner city right now. 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:23.960 I feel like I'm on Collins Street. It's so close 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.920 to everything. I tell some people like, yeah, live near 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.080 the city now, and I say reservoir and they're like, babe, 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:30.960 what I'm like, Okay, for me, it's close. 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:32.920 I didn't want much. 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.279 I supported Melbourne Queens being that I'm from Melbourne until 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.640 this season and I was like, finally we get a 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:40.560 lot more Melbourne Queens. I think this might be the 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.280 season that has the most. I don't know if I'm 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.319 right by saying that, but I have been you right 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.520 from the start because you're Melbourne based, and I didn't 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:49.320 think that was going to be something that would happen 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:49.560 to me. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.440 Ah, you've got the home, like where the hometown heroes. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:54.000 You know, you've got to root for us. 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.280 Do you think that there's other queens in Melbourne that 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.080 deserve to be on the show, Like if you've got 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.800 friends that are are current in the scene, Because for me, 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.000 I'm forty five, so I'm like, where's Paris drag Queen, 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:06.240 Where's Millie Minogue? 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.639 Where's all of these queens that I can righth? 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.880 Look, I've spoken to a lot of them and because 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.080 they've asked me about being on Drag Race and things, 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.880 and I've said, like, why would you do it? And 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:21.960 I think a lot of them don't want to do it. 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:25.760 It's hard, it's really hard. But also I can't speak 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:27.920 for them, but I think what I am putting it 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.600 down to is they don't want what might happen on 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:32.960 the show to ruin any kind of reputation that they 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:34.320 already have, you know. 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.799 Because ruined their careers. What do you mean? 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:42.760 They're drag queens that's already the lowest of the lower 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.359 How much worse can you get the friend of their careers? 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.840 Like Paris drag Queen, Come on, like, you know this 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:52.120 could be a responseng for you think do it? 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:53.800 I really don't think she would. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.079 Okay, all right, well you've helped me out with that, 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:57.360 but like, yeah. 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.919 I think well because I like Missy. I asked me, 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:01.840 I was like, did you audition? And she said no, 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:03.840 I'll never auditioned for the show, And now she doesn't 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:04.480 do drag anymore. 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.079 Sir, do you think they lie about it? Do you 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.280 think that they've auditioned before and now they lie about it? 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.960 If I spent all my time thinking about whether people 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:12.920 are lying to me, I'd never fucking rest. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:17.000 You know, thinking about the character journeys on this show, 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:21.000 can you manufacture that because in this particular episode, we 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.000 hear a lot about people saying Michelle talking about some 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:27.000 of these drag performers taking us on a journey this season, 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.040 and I was thinking about it. That does help with 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:32.440 reality TV shows. Could you try and stage something like 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.880 start at this particular point, go to here, drop it 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.160 down to there. Can you try and manufacture some of 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.960 that to make sure that these judges talk about your 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.160 journey and the viewers feel like they've gone on a 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:44.680 journey with. 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:46.040 You, or do you just have to let it go? 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:51.480 That's a really interesting question. Talking from my experience, I 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.800 just went into the show with the intention to just 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.840 have fun. You know, I really did not know how 0:03:57.920 --> 0:03:59.840 well or how good or bout it I was going 0:03:59.880 --> 0:04:03.240 to do. And I think if you start off really 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.280 really strong, like say lazy Susan, that sort of set 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.840 her apart from the start, and then she sort of 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:11.680 moved to the middle of the pack a little bit 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.600 towards like where we are in the competition now. So 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.719 I guess there could be something to say about bringing 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.000 people on a journey to see how you come out 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.000 the other side. But I really think you got to 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:26.159 just go or it from the start because you don't 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.360 know what's going to happen. It's such an underpredictable environment 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.680 and an unpredictable show. You never know what's going to 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.720 happen next. And I thought there's any chance, Like the 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.480 first thing that I said to myself when I got 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.000 there was like, there's any chance that I could be 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:40.719 the first one to go home, And so if that's 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.480 the case, I have to make my mark from the 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.320 very first episode, and so any opportunity that I had 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:49.080 on camera, any opportunity that sat down in confessional, I 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.560 was I just was on you know, I was like, 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.560 I need to have a moment I need to be 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.320 bringing something to the competition so that I stick around. 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.279 Because I'm not sure if some of the other queens 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.080 realized or other people watching the show, but any time 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.920 that the camera is on, that is the challenge. You know, 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.680 the challenge itself on drag Race is not just the 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.479 main challenge that it's been set. The challenge is to 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:15.160 make yourself lackable and make yourself interesting to watch on 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.440 a TV show that so that people keep you around. 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.640 You know, in confessional, if you're not giving anything to 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.359 the camera, where when the cameras are panting to you 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.720 in the workroom, and you're not doing something to make 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:30.120 yourself interesting to look at or interesting to watch, you're 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.760 not gonna You're not going to do well. So that 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:33.880 was what I went into it with. 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.360 Were you happy to watch the way in which it 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.400 was all put together? Because you've just mentioned something that 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.760 I think is quite fascinating, and that is that you're 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:46.920 actually mirroring these confessionals with how you are day to day, 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.039 and so that must be really kind of a little bipolar, 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:51.520 you know what I mean, like because I mean, these 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:55.200 two but easily drift quite far apart. And then retrospectively 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.000 looking back at it, what did you think? Did you go, Oh, 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:58.839 I've nailed that. 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:03.920 Look, it's it's a really I'm loving watching the show 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:07.320 back and I think it's really great. And I think 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.680 as much as some people want to blame editing and 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.480 things like that, yes, to an extent, editing is there. 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:17.000 But you can't make someone or have you can't make 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.440 someone look a certain way without them doing something to 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:22.120 make that possible. 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:22.359 You know. 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.880 Sometimes the confessionals were really interesting because sometimes we were 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.800 talking about things that had happened three or four days ago, 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.239 and you're just going based off what you can remember. 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.320 And there were so many times when the producers would 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.840 ask me a question and I'd say, I'm sorry, connection 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.040 remind me what happened, because every day kind of blurred 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:44.279 into each other when we're there. It's such an unnatural environment. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.200 I really just wanted to I just wanted to enjoy 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.799 my time, and I really did, and I just wanted 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:55.240 to bring something that was enjoyable to watch and make 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:56.800 people smile, make people laugh. 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:57.599 I loved you. 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.159 I thought you put your breast foot forward or whatever 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.000 you want to say. I thought you were fantastic right 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.400 from the start. I think you resonated. I think you 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.240 clicked with audiences, and you've made it to the middle 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:09.239 of the competition, which is still very good. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.840 Yeah, exactly. And like after I'd won snatch game, I 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:14.880 was just like, you know what, I've done what I 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.960 came to do. I've proven myself and I'll leave the 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.760 people wanting more. You know, as much as you know 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.080 it was the judge's decision to send me home. I 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.160 think I manifested that I was ready to go. I 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.720 was tired, you know. I was like, I'm done. I've 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.600 done what I came to do. I'm pretty tired. We've 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:35.600 been here for two weeks and I need a drink. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.760 Because those vodka cranberries that they were giving us in 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.480 untapped were I think they were measuring the vodka with 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.280 one of those eye droppers. You know. It was wasn't 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:45.800 doing it for me. So I was like, that's it. 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.280 I've done. You can send me home. I'll throw the 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.040 towel and with Max and I'm going to go to 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.600 the bar at the airports. 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.560 Aboutage, which I thought was really interesting as well, because 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.720 there was a part in this episode where you mentioned 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:03.440 that do you think that sabotage works in this competition 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.200 because the reason why I'm asking that is that I 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.800 wonder whether or not we've ever had a winner before 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.320 whose gameplay has been sabotage. 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.160 Oh as much as I wanted it to look like 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:19.120 I was sabotaging Nikita last episode, I was just I 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.560 really had no idea what I was doing. I just 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.320 got these three fabrics, and I said, I don't know 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.480 what to do with any of these. And I could 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.000 have just blindly closed my eyes and just handed them 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.560 to Nikita and Demandy say pick whatever you want. I 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.480 don't care. I just don't want either of them. But 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:37.800 I think sabotage. Look, you don't have to sabotage people, 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.400 and you're confident in your abilities. And I was, I'm 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.080 playing up to the camera, you know, that's what you 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.960 do on a TV show. And I'm not a malevolent person, 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.880 and I don't feel the need to tear others down 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.320 to bring myself up. A lot of other people feel that. 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.000 A lot of queens I've noticed on the scene feel 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:57.280 the need to tear others down to boost themselves higher. 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.839 But when you're talented, you don't need to do that. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:01.040 This is the thing. 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.360 That's so funny about you saying that can reading people 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.360 ruin relationships? Because I mean, this episode starts with the 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.120 reading challenge, and I'm always so nervous about this. I've 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.439 already discussed it in this series of podcasts that I've 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:14.680 done on these debriefs, and I would be so scared 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:18.440 because I'd be worried whether or not you're reading in 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.160 a reading challenge could ruin your relationship in the show, 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.720 which therefore could end your time on the show. 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:24.679 You know what I mean. 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.640 But reading is such a writer passage with drag, and 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:34.640 I think any seasoned drag performer knows that reading is fundamental. 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.040 But it is really part of the culture of drag, 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:41.000 and so you get used to that quite quickly. So 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:45.040 anytime you work with any other queens, I always we're 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.520 always throwing shade, always reading each other. You know, it 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.360 comes with the territory. So I think, no matter how 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.400 sort of cutthroat they are, it's all part of the fun, 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.080 you know, it's all part of the fun. 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.800 There's one drag queen in Melbourne that's been around forever, 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:00.839 probably one of the queen of means of drag queens. 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:04.560 I've not mentioned this person, But whenever I'm in their company, 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.960 they will say really outrageous things that hurts my feelings, 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.280 and I'll walk away and say to like Dina Curry 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:15.040 or who's Frock Hudson, I will say that person really 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.840 offended me. And Dean will be like, no, no, no, they're 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.240 just dragging you. And I'm like, no, no, it was 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.320 truly offensive and I felt like it came from a 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.760 bad place. And He's like, you know what, you might 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:26.959 be right. And so that's where dragging, I think, can 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:27.920 be really dangerous. 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.280 But there is a fine line. There's a fine line 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:34.160 between you know, reading someone and just being offensive, and 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:38.840 I think that's what divides and sets apart talented performers 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:43.320 and people who are just trying to be outrageous. Yeah, 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.120 some people will say things for the shock of the 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.480 shock value of what they've said, whereas I think what 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.280 I really respect is when a read is really cut 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.360 through it but it's clever, because that's what that's what 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.559 says to me is that if it's clever, if you've 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.600 delivered in a clever way of you've said, like a 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:03.280 really clever what's the word a really clever? I know 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.160 what you mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what that's what 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:06.760 I respect. 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:08.720 Yeah, I think it's just a hard thing to do. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.160 The challenge this week was to do this makeover, and 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:15.080 you got these librarians, and some of those librarianes look 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.360 like they would be easier to meld or mold in 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:20.320 a way, and some of them looked less likely to 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.960 be able to do it. Did you think that how 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.960 well everyone did this challenge had to do with how 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:28.640 easy it was to work with those people? 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:29.160 Yes? 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:34.840 And no. I mean I remember Freyer being particularly quiet 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.160 the first day when we were when we were paired 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:42.320 up with our partners for the design challenge, and I 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.240 could see that she was getting into her head about 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:47.800 what she was going to do with her partner because 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.920 they're quite different. And then when it came to the 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.160 runway and the next day, it was sort of just 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.599 like a switch had flicked and she was all of 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.840 a sudden fine with it. So it was really interesting. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.600 But I got along so well with Hannah. We had 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.280 just the best time, and I think that's what made 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.280 the whole challenge just enjoyable for me, even though I 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.560 didn't do well. That's why I still have no bad 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.400 memories or feelings towards the episode because I just had 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.240 so much fun and it's really just about you know, 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:18.280 you've got to take every opportunity that you're given. And 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.840 one thing about drag that I love is improv you know, 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:24.640 you thrown into a situation where you've got to deal 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.600 with things on the fly. And if you can make 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.880 the best of any situation that you're put into and 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.559 make the best of it is with anything Like if 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.839 I'm given a category to dress up for, you've got 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.000 to I love just making do with what I've got, 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.240 you know, I love that aspect of drag. If you 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.120 go into things with the right attitude, then there's nowhere 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:44.760 that you can fail. 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:46.280 I think that's the best way to look at it. 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:47.679 I think that's a really good mantra. 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.360 You know, there's a really funny moment I can't wait 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.520 for you to watch it where you see Hannah has 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.959 this verbal diarrhea on stage when talking. Well, the critiques 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:00.240 are happening so hilarious. I was like, did you get that? 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.000 I wanted to ask you that. Did you put something 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:02.920 in her coffee? Like? 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:04.920 Nattering like that all the time. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:09.120 Oh, she loves a chat. She absolutely loves a chat, 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.280 and we've stayed in contact ever since we got back. 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.640 And let me tell you, she's just just chatty online 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.840 as she is in person. She is absolutely beautiful, But yeah, 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:17.760 she loves a chat. 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:19.480 He put a respont. 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.920 It was so funny seeing the judge's reactions to like 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.720 how much she just blurted everything out. But it's the 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:29.920 same thing. I was like, I'm not going to see 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.400 this as a bad thing. I'm not gonna I wasn't 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.000 gonna use. I wasn't gonna get that in my head. 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:36.480 I was like, oh my god, like we need I 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.240 need to rain her in. I'm like, no, she's having 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:40.960 the best time of her life. And I was like, 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.680 let's run with that, because when you just let people 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.200 be themselves and have fun, then everyone else around you 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:46.800 will have fun. 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.400 Well, everyone was so good in this challenge, Like I 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.679 feel like there was a bit of a read of 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.440 some of the queens that have gone home up to 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.640 this point, but it really did feel like for this episode, 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.360 like Gloves her Off, there's no one who is. I 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.800 felt like it's almost like an even playing field to 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.920 a certain pess with everyone and you're matching up with 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.120 your character and your story I thought was I didn't 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.000 notice anything wrong with it. I thought that you matched 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:14.080 yourself quite well. So it just goes to show you 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.160 sort of what level of the competition we're at and 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.520 what sort of queens we've got left. Do you think 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.480 Max being in that final dance, you know, with the 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.320 lip sync with you, is that indicative of the fact 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:25.440 that Max could go home soon. 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.920 Look, it's the kind of challenge where you don't know 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.440 which way it's going to go. After watching the show 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.120 for so many years, it's the one challenge that really 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.600 you have no idea what they're going to say. Sometimes 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.680 they'll say the judges will say, oh, we didn't ask 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:44.320 for twins, we asked for family resemblance. Sometimes they'll say, oh, 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:48.760 you look identical. We love that. Sometimes it'll be they'll 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.200 look nothing alike, but the judges will say, oh, I 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.160 can see the family resemblance and you look at ego what. 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.680 So it's a very interesting challenge. And I remember while 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.560 we were getting out of critiques, Max and I were 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.360 standing at the back of the stage and we had 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.440 gone through almost everyone, and everyone was getting really good critiques. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.680 Just they were picking at the tinest little things of everyone. 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:10.760 And I remember Max and I looked at each other 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.920 and we were like, are we in the bottom? What 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:13.680 what's happening? 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:13.840 Like? 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.760 Are we in the bottom? So yeah, it was it 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:18.880 probably was fair that Max and I were in the bottom, 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:22.040 even though that even though we did really well, everyone 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:23.480 did really well. It was just a hard one to 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:24.960 pick this time. It's a hard one to pick. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.280 You know. Spanky Jackson's one of my favorite drag queens 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:30.960 of all time from around the world, and Spanky was 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.080 in this episode with you, which was great, but we 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.560 didn't see a lot from Spanky. I was just curious, 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.200 did you hear what her critiques were when you were 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:39.760 walking along the runway? 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.640 Oh? Like her little little bits. 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.600 And pieces, Like I've spoken to drag queens they say 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.000 they can hear the comments, like you cannot, And we 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.600 don't see really anything that Spanky says. So I was 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:51.640 just curious, like was she too crass? Like was it 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.760 two outrageous? Did she was she even talking? 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:54.000 Like? 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:55.080 Was there room for that? 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.600 I just was surprised at a bit of a lacklust 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:59.280 of Spanky Jackson in this episode. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:05.200 I actually honestly can't remember the BRender breast. I really 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:10.640 cut it was so long ago, but Spanky was like, 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:14.120 she was so much fun. I'm a Spanky Jackson Stan 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.640 I absolutely love her. So I was just excited that 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.000 she was there because I hadn't met her yet and 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:19.760 so I was just thrilled that she was there. I 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:21.520 just think the only thing that I can remember the 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.440 judge just saying when we were going down from Brenda 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.160 was just where's the bus? Is the bus still running it? 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.360 Where's the bus? That's like, can remember. 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:31.120 Well, it was a good gag. I mean, I thought 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.600 it was funny with the whole bubble. I have to 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.360 wrap up because I only get twenty minutes with you 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.520 and I'm overtime, but I just wanted to say how 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.200 amazing I think you are and how great I. 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:41.200 Think you did on this show. 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.440 And I finished the podcast with asking her behind the 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.120 scene secret and I'm asking everyone how much money they 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.040 spent on their drag? Pretty much everyone said ten thousand dollars? 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:50.920 Is that the going rate? Is that how much money 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.600 people spend or did you spend on average? 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:55.800 Yeah, that's pretty much what I spent as well. Yeah, 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:59.440 it's it's yeah, I think that because we sort of 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:05.480 needed nine nine at nine costumes for the categories and 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.400 roughly they're all about one to one point five each. Yeah, 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.080 that kind of it's not cheap. It's not cheap, but 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.040 it's that one thing where it's like you get that 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.159 call once and this is the one time that you 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:18.200 spend money to. 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:18.720 Drop the car. 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:20.760 Yeah, you drop the platinum A mix on it, and 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:24.159 you see that. My husband will pay that check when 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:24.600 I'm away. 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.160 K amazing, Brenda. I'm in your audience. 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:29.760 I can't wait to see what you do with this 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:32.800 whole drag experience and now being a rude girl. Thank 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.400 you for representing Melbourne. I'm very proud of what you've 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.440 been able to achieve and good luck with the whole thing. 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:40.400 Thank you. I've just got to correct you on one thing. 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.640 We're not Route Girls. We're Mitch's Bitches, thank you very much. 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:46.320 Right you know what? 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:48.480 Oh my god, I said that in the podcast last 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:50.280