Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2: This is the Flex and Frooms catch up podcast. Welcome
Speaker 2: to Wednesday. Yesterday. In the podcast intro, we were talking
Speaker 2: about how builders and other trades people are superior perhaps
Speaker 2: and flixy. It got me thinking, would you go on
Speaker 2: celebrity Apprentice?
Speaker 1: No, really, too much work. I told you, I don't
Speaker 1: want to work hard. It's just I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: want to do hard work. I want to work hard.
Speaker 1: I want to do hard work. And I think that
Speaker 1: I've set myself up so the work that I'm doing
Speaker 1: is easy for me to execute, Like I'm using all
Speaker 1: my natural skills. For someone doing a podcast or public speaking,
Speaker 1: it would be a difficult thing to do. It's a
Speaker 1: very simple thing for me to do, and so I
Speaker 1: want to do that. I'm like, they caught me at
Speaker 1: a wrong time. Ask me four years ago when I
Speaker 1: was on my rise and grindhustle culture. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll try it, and half try it now these says,
Speaker 1: I'm like too fragile, too sensitive. Really yeah, And I
Speaker 1: also just want to balance the scales. I said, in
Speaker 1: the last ten years of my life trying to be
Speaker 1: really proficient professionally, and would be a proficient person.
Speaker 2: Good on you.
Speaker 1: Let's get to the podcast, Okada, Flex and Frooms, Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms. As you know, it's breakup season and also
Speaker 1: engagement season. It happens, you know, at the same time
Speaker 1: for obvious reasons if you really think about it. But
Speaker 1: we won't. We won't. A couple of weeks ago I
Speaker 1: talked about how if you happened to it, proposed to
Speaker 1: and call off the engagement, do you have to give
Speaker 1: back the ring? Is the ring a gift or almost
Speaker 1: you know, a mmm, like collateral or like a gift
Speaker 1: subject to the marriage actually happening, and if it doesn't happen,
Speaker 1: you must give the gift back. Well, we had someone
Speaker 1: who's called in to give us their hot take on
Speaker 1: how shit all go.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 3: So when my nan was young, being twenty seven meant
Speaker 3: you were on the shelf aka absolutely no good brought
Speaker 3: in goods about to expire. Her fiance had gone and
Speaker 3: got a lady up the duff, so that relationship was
Speaker 3: well and truly done. So I'm not sure whether her
Speaker 3: keeping the engagement ring was a mistake or traumat tax.
Speaker 3: I'd like to think the latter, thank you very much,
Speaker 3: But What happened next is what you could say is
Speaker 3: the cherry on top of a very cheap Bullies mudcake.
Speaker 3: I won't get into the kit store of how my
Speaker 3: grandparents met, but not too long after the engagement falling apart,
Speaker 3: my grandfather did appear on the scene. He was a
Speaker 3: refugee and couldn't afford much, let alone speak English very well,
Speaker 3: so when it came to locking my Aussie nan down,
Speaker 3: he basically was like, Cath, why would I buy you
Speaker 3: a new ring when you already have one.
Speaker 2: It was a true upcycle moment.
Speaker 3: I don't know how she didn't get the ear immediately,
Speaker 3: but I guess when you're twenty seven, you've got to
Speaker 3: take what you can get.
Speaker 2: Can I just say, impeccable story? Tear?
Speaker 1: When you write that down?
Speaker 2: Are you reading some of that woman in That doesn't
Speaker 2: even sound red? That just sounded like beautiful pace, intelligent intention,
Speaker 2: an intelligent queen, if you absolutely. I love viewing the
Speaker 2: ring as traum attacks because it goes on both ends.
Speaker 2: As I was saying, let's say in a as you
Speaker 2: love them so dearly heterosexual relationship community, the man is
Speaker 2: proposing to the woman and saying with this gift I
Speaker 2: give to you on the occasion that we do actually
Speaker 2: get married. This is your little gift, right, but as
Speaker 2: a person on the receiving end, like it is my gift,
Speaker 2: and if for some reason you do something that makes
Speaker 2: me unable to redeem the next part of my gift,
Speaker 2: the wedding band and the marriage, then I should be
Speaker 2: entitled to take. This is a deposit. Yeah, it's non refindby.
Speaker 1: It's a laby look like this ring.
Speaker 2: For example, I got a ring on my finger, Yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 2: I think my dad got this three his ex girlfriend
Speaker 2: and then they broke up, and then he met my
Speaker 2: mum that Saturday, and he's worn this on his pinky
Speaker 2: finger on her on the show call her at by
Speaker 2: name literally anyway, it's very like it's a weird looking ring.
Speaker 1: It's a gorgeous ring that I couldn't describe it, but
Speaker 1: you'll just you have to see it to believe it.
Speaker 1: I will say though, that it takes a certain amount
Speaker 1: of lack of shame to ask for the ring back.
Speaker 1: Isn't it shameful enough that I've called off the engagement?
Speaker 1: But I guess pettiness will really feel anyone to do
Speaker 1: the craziest things.
Speaker 2: Fully, it's very it's very emotionally. It's an emotional piece
Speaker 2: of jewelry, that's for sure. Also, can we just really
Speaker 2: quickly say we won't go into it. But how did
Speaker 2: all of our grandparents just meet people like the next
Speaker 2: day after breaking up with their partners?
Speaker 1: They got near it?
Speaker 2: What the hell? Guys?
Speaker 1: They went to social events, they were part of their community.
Speaker 1: They were trapped in their two bedroom, one bathroom, mold
Speaker 1: infested in a city apartment with the roommate they met
Speaker 1: on face for who works full time so they never
Speaker 1: see each other.
Speaker 2: I want to go back. Let's go back in time, guys,
Speaker 2: let's all go back in time.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to go Thank you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to get.
Speaker 2: This is flex and Frooms on kit Flexi. We're going
Speaker 2: to be talking about wiki how. There's a website called
Speaker 2: wiki how. Yes, it's Wikipedia mixed with how to do things.
Speaker 2: And this one actually doesn't come from Wiki how. This
Speaker 2: comes from my very own brain. So Flexi, I have
Speaker 2: come up with a genius way to figure out what
Speaker 2: the best photo of me is to then put up
Speaker 2: on Instagram. Great, you're on a dating app, right, and
Speaker 2: it's Hinge. Let's just use that as an example. Do
Speaker 2: you want not from personal experience? And obviously with Hinge
Speaker 2: there's a function to like answers or photos. So what
Speaker 2: I've done is I've created a Hinge account with five
Speaker 2: different photos of myself, and what I'm doing is trying
Speaker 2: to figure out what I should put on my Instagram.
Speaker 2: And what I do is I go through and you're.
Speaker 1: Soft launching to a bunch of strangers men and then
Speaker 1: taking that data to then hard posts on your Instagram.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's genius. So I put up like a few
Speaker 2: photos myself smiling, and the one that got the most
Speaker 2: likes is me in a lemon shirt, smiling, full beat
Speaker 2: on my face, not messing about. And I got the
Speaker 2: most likes of the men. And it wasn't the first photo.
Speaker 2: It was about three down, so you know, they really
Speaker 2: assessed all options and thought that's the one I'm attracted to.
Speaker 2: If so facto new profile pick uploaded.
Speaker 1: See, I don't know. I don't know. I feel like
Speaker 1: on dating apps in particular, people act in a contrary way.
Speaker 1: So usually people like you don't want to light the
Speaker 1: first one because it feels like you didn' look through
Speaker 1: the profile. You know you don't like the sexiest one
Speaker 1: because it makes you look like a like a horn dog, right,
Speaker 1: you don't want to like Usually the ones that are
Speaker 1: hot in hot in a way that's hot to like
Speaker 1: fellow chicks is going to be like your fashion one
Speaker 1: or like you know, your colored lenses polaroid moment. You know,
Speaker 1: how do I say this in a way that's not
Speaker 1: gonna offend men? I don't feel like men broadly have
Speaker 1: the best assessment on what I look the best as interesting?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't feel
Speaker 1: like when I'm wearing what I would deem to be
Speaker 1: like my best fit with my best hair, the average
Speaker 1: man would be like, yeah, that's sick, not my demographic.
Speaker 2: They're not here for the jawts.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So then I feel like it's odd to use
Speaker 1: the demographic of strangers who aren't seeing you in a
Speaker 1: neutral way. By the way, dating apps and inherently is sexualized. True,
Speaker 1: and they're like mating purposes, So you're taking their assessment
Speaker 1: of you to go to an audience people who know
Speaker 1: you and like you, and have them decide where you
Speaker 1: look best. They're probably wrong.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not saying me specific, What about the person?
Speaker 1: Who are you not saying? This is not personal evidence,
Speaker 1: it's not research gathered from.
Speaker 2: You, research from years ago.
Speaker 1: I like it, though, I just don't think it's I
Speaker 1: don't think it'd be accurate, but I think it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Well let's say the photo yeah, well no, because it's
Speaker 2: from years ago. Wink wink.
Speaker 1: Now are you u thinking photos from years ago on
Speaker 1: your dating app? That is crazy? You photos can't be
Speaker 1: older than one year.
Speaker 2: I agree to one year. Even too much.
Speaker 1: Changes in one year, especially like I don't want to
Speaker 1: see one photo where you're bald versus one photo and
Speaker 1: you've got sixteen inches of hair.
Speaker 2: How do you think I go with my ever changing hair?
Speaker 1: If the hair is ever changed because you change it frequently,
Speaker 1: that's fine. That's a horny photo. Ill you're sick. She's
Speaker 1: doing dog chest out blue eyeshadow. Think they're not thinking
Speaker 1: about the blue eye shadow based from the ninety when
Speaker 1: they're having their first exclamation, get out of here. Cut
Speaker 1: the cameras, flex and fromes. You're listening to flex and firms.
Speaker 3: What the frick?
Speaker 1: We have yet another moral dilemma. This one is quite
Speaker 1: good because I feel like if you fancy yourself a
Speaker 1: person with taste, yep, then you might have gone through
Speaker 1: this experience. Imagine you have a good friend who's romantically
Speaker 1: interested in one of your other friends. You know, they're
Speaker 1: part of the general friend network, and this good friend
Speaker 1: wants you to hook them up or at least do
Speaker 1: the intro get some wheels moving. The issue is you
Speaker 1: don't think these two people would be a good coupleikes like,
Speaker 1: you're like pretty certain. You're like, it's not gonna work. Bro,
Speaker 1: what do you do?
Speaker 2: We've all been here, have we? Yeah, we actually have.
Speaker 1: We reside here, we pay rent.
Speaker 2: I've been on literally all three sides of the coin now.
Speaker 2: And I will say there is a feeling of indignation
Speaker 2: when your friend won't hook you.
Speaker 1: Up, like what are we doing?
Speaker 2: Is? I know, especially when there has been a vibe
Speaker 2: that has been observed by all parties. I don't want
Speaker 2: to use the term colock clock use it and yeah here.
Speaker 1: We are use it.
Speaker 2: It's the most classic of the term. I will say.
Speaker 2: I think if you're let's say the person who can
Speaker 2: hook it up the middle person, the middle person is
Speaker 2: saying go go stop, I think they will usually know
Speaker 2: the best parts of each person, so I will trust
Speaker 2: their judgment.
Speaker 1: Can I quickly interject, please, my hand is up. I
Speaker 1: feel I agree with you, but I want a devil's advocate.
Speaker 1: I want to do my second year philosophy. Bro, you're
Speaker 1: the person in the middle only knows those two people
Speaker 1: in a specific platonic context. I know bunch of people
Speaker 1: who are currently romantically involved that I would never place.
Speaker 1: I would say the majority of my friends who who
Speaker 1: have found themselves in a new relationship and it happens
Speaker 1: to be with another friend, I would have never called it.
Speaker 1: I'm like every time like you two wow, wow wow,
Speaker 1: wow wow wow.
Speaker 2: Have I ever been in a relationship like that where
Speaker 2: people like, oh this is YouTube yeh yeah.
Speaker 1: No, not like a boyfriend and girlfriend, but definitely like
Speaker 1: a an entanglement where everyone's.
Speaker 2: Like, damn he really did that want him?
Speaker 1: Wow? Interesting? Interesting. So I will say that, like, being
Speaker 1: the decider is not great because you don't actually know
Speaker 1: what this person is like in a romantic context. I
Speaker 1: will say, though, the best thing you can do is
Speaker 1: cavea or like disclaim and say, hey, like, I don't
Speaker 1: really know their situation. I don't know if they're dating anyone.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're dating anyone. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're keen. But like here, like I'll start a
Speaker 1: chat or whatever, Like I'll intro and then leave me
Speaker 1: out of it. Like you have to be dip in
Speaker 1: and dip out. You cannot be doing handholding Cupid checking
Speaker 1: in or whatever, because more often than not, it does
Speaker 1: not work. And I think by remaining the middleman, it
Speaker 1: gives both parties, or at least you a good friend,
Speaker 1: more hope that the vibe is stronger than it is,
Speaker 1: because if the vibe was not strong, you would say
Speaker 1: so right wrong. I would not say so if one
Speaker 1: of my friends said I'm keen on your other friend,
Speaker 1: I know for a fact the other friends would never borrow,
Speaker 1: never borrow, go there. I'm not letting you know that.
Speaker 1: That's for you to find out on your own, in
Speaker 1: a far nicer way than I could probably tell you.
Speaker 2: I hate it.
Speaker 1: It's not great. Get on the app scales, nice, let's
Speaker 1: get off the apps. Let's go to a let's go
Speaker 1: to a bar. I will say, here's how we avoid
Speaker 1: this situation in future. It's not relying on one person
Speaker 1: to do the intro. It's about creating environments where mutual
Speaker 1: friends can hang out with mutual friends to it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like we did look at an
Speaker 1: annual or like a fortnightly Sunday sesh. Everyone come to
Speaker 1: this bar. You don't need the event. You'll know we'll
Speaker 1: be there every Sunday long lunch vibes, pop in, pop out,
Speaker 1: and do a casual intro. How good would that be?
Speaker 2: I feel like the girls and the gays in the
Speaker 2: LGBTQI community the honerfectly, they got it puffed off on
Speaker 2: a Sunday. They've got the bearded tit. They regularly congregate.
Speaker 2: So we need to learn a thing or two, folks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is flex and frooms on kDa. You're back with
Speaker 2: fn F. I know it's not a swear word. How
Speaker 2: to think a flop and flopinder you when you flop era?
Speaker 2: Right now? Flex sleigh era or neutral pre sleigh pre SLA.
Speaker 1: I had a sleigh, definitely, there's been a significant sleigh
Speaker 1: at say in the last two years. It's been an
Speaker 1: but I think I have another sleigh coming. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It could be like Q one twenty four, or it
Speaker 1: could be earlier.
Speaker 2: I was talking a week to week personal sleigh basis.
Speaker 1: Oh then yeah, we're slaying hell yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Flex. The great thing about having a public Instagram and
Speaker 2: people who.
Speaker 1: Follow it and a personal brand, what it is.
Speaker 2: That is you get people messaging you with dreams that
Speaker 2: they've had about you. Now, it freaks me out to
Speaker 2: think that people would ever think of us outside of
Speaker 2: when I'm thinking about them. However, if there's one exception
Speaker 2: to the rule, it's dreams because they're inconsequential and they
Speaker 2: perhaps a psyche based and like, no one's ever going
Speaker 2: to send me a dream and be like, you're in
Speaker 2: this dream and you did this really bad thing. Oh,
Speaker 2: people have definitely sent me that. Oh oh well, I
Speaker 2: got one from a listener. I won't say their name.
Speaker 2: It's just like, as soon as I hear Frooms, I
Speaker 2: had a dream about you last night, my heart just
Speaker 2: flutters and I think, let me lick.
Speaker 1: They're obsast with me.
Speaker 2: Let me soak this up with a little piece of bread. Okay,
Speaker 2: Rooms had a dream about you and Flex last night.
Speaker 2: We were in Paris. Your hair was blonde again and
Speaker 2: you were wearing green and orange. Very you, very Eliza
Speaker 2: Thornberry vibes specific Flex was. Flex was not coping with
Speaker 2: driving on the opposite side of the road, and we
Speaker 2: had multiple small road accidents.
Speaker 1: Ah, okay, okay, relax.
Speaker 2: No one seemed that worried about trashing the car God complex,
Speaker 2: We'll be right. A childhood friend was being very mean
Speaker 2: to me. I haven't thought about her in years, but
Speaker 2: she always had mean girlfriend of me vibes a dog,
Speaker 2: and I was worried she would destroy all of my
Speaker 2: things in the hotel. Flex told me to stop worrying
Speaker 2: and wanted to go to a bar.
Speaker 1: Flex said, anyway, respectfully.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately the bar was a dad but the cocktails were nice.
Speaker 2: You were very relaxed and chatty, cool girl vibes. Yes,
Speaker 2: Flex was being a demon. I added that bit. I
Speaker 2: woke up with a headache. Not sure what it all means.
Speaker 1: Oh, woke up in real life or in the dream.
Speaker 2: In real life? Okay, probably that I need to take
Speaker 2: ubers in foreign countries. Needless to say, everyone looked very hot.
Speaker 1: I love that. There's a lot to work with, there
Speaker 1: a lot to work for.
Speaker 2: This is a terrible driver who is inconsiderate.
Speaker 1: And see, I didn't get that. I didn't get that.
Speaker 1: I got Flex is willing to go with the flow
Speaker 1: and understand that a few nicks and dings on the
Speaker 1: way is just part of the journey. Flex also understands
Speaker 1: that a bad vibe is contagious and didn't want to
Speaker 1: affect the trip for everybody else. Flex also knows that
Speaker 1: sometimes the girls you need to get amongst them are optional.
Speaker 1: Just like a cute environment, cute outfit, cute music, cute people,
Speaker 1: feels good. Flex wants kip the energy.
Speaker 2: Up and for me is coolgo with chatty vibes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is so crazy that they would say that.
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