1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:01,440 Speaker 1: The Super Bowl fifty eight. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 2: Lease, someone who knows it and is a real fan 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: of the game is our moving man, Ben o'she who's 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: very very versatile, wanting Ben good. 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 3: Morning, Good morning, guys. It's like all my Christmases have 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 3: come at once. 7 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 4: Sunday, That fantastic Super Bowl fifty eight starts about seven 8 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 4: thirty this morning on seven Mate. You write the NFL 9 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 4: coverage in the West. You are a huge fan. When 10 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 4: did you first get into NFL? 11 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 3: Oh, probably about ten years ago or so. Always kind 12 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: of followed it from afar as a sports nut. But 13 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: I was a music journalist in a former life, and 14 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 3: so I would go to the big day out, which 15 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 3: was always the first Sunday in February, and then by 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 3: the time i'd kind of stumble home from various after party, right, 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: it would be it would be sort of seven o'clock 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: Monday morning, and the Super Bowl would be on, and 19 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: I'd sit down on the couch and I'd watch this 20 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: game and I'd go, geez, it'd be so good if 21 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: I actually understood what was going on. Yeah, And so eventually, 22 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: after a few years I decided to actually put the 23 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: effort into study it, and then the more I did, 24 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: the more I became obsessed. It's just a game. It's engrossing. 25 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: There's so much strategy. If you can imagine, it's like 26 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: Chess being played by one hundred and twenty kilo monsters. 27 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, who run seconds. 28 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 5: Couple have started as a chill out session for you. 29 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you educated yourself on it. That's admirable, Ben, We 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: have no idea what's going on? 31 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 3: Well it look, it's very easy. It's the biggest sport 32 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: in America. America is the biggest media market. So all 33 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 3: you have to do is just kind of tune into 34 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 3: a couple of news stories every now and then, and 35 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: pretty quickly you pick it up. And the storylines are 36 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: just insane. And the Super Bowl is, of course where 37 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: the greatest storylines are told, and this game, super Bowl 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: fifty eight is no exception. And of course you've got 39 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift just adding to it all. 40 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got the Kansas City Chiefs and the San 41 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: Francisco forty nine ers. Tell us about the Perth connection 42 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 4: to the forty nine ers. 43 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is a great story for Western Australia 44 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: to follow. He's got the forty nine ers punter Mitch Wishnowski, 45 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: Gosnell's tradee who was drafted by the forty nine ers 46 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. He'll probably only see the 47 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: field a couple of times during the game. Punters don't 48 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: have a huge role to play. He still gets paid 49 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: a couple of million dollars a year if you don't mind. 50 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: But he'll come on. He's a huge man for a 51 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: punter in the NFL, and every now and then Mitch 52 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: does pull off a spectacular highlight play a little bit unexpected, 53 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: like maybe it'll be a trick play, or maybe he'll 54 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 3: make a tackle on a punt return or something like that. 55 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: So he's no stranger to the headlines. So look out 56 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: for Mitch doing something special. But I wouldn't expect him 57 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: to have a huge role today. 58 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do remember all those years ago when the 59 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: AlSi Darren Bennett, he's played for the Eagles in Melbourne, 60 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: tackled someonhever he got his job. 61 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, if Mitch gets one tackle today, that would be 62 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: that would be a headline news. 63 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, absolutely that you mentioned Taylor Swift there, she's 64 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 4: gone out with Travis Kelcey, got a bit of rough 65 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 4: and there's been an inordinate amount of attention on Taylor 66 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 4: going to games and so on. Is that and he 67 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 4: plays for the Kansas City Chiefs. How do you think 68 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: the forty nine ers feel about it all? Do they 69 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 4: they happy to just have a different group brought to 70 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 4: the attention of the Super Bowl there's sort of a 71 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: whole legion of new fans because of Taylor or do 72 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: you think they're like, have had a Taylor. 73 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: Full I think a lot of hardcore NFL fans have 74 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: probably had a Taylor fall, and the forty nine ers, 75 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: I'm absolutely sure they'll be using it as motivation. They'll 76 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: probably have a picture of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey 77 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: up on their locker room this morning and they'll be 78 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: saying and they'd be saying, oh, look, you know, these 79 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: guys are soft, they're into celebrities. Everybody loves them. We're 80 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: going to where the going to be the underdogs. We're 81 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: going to go out there and show them how real 82 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: football is play. But there's also been a bit of 83 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: a backlash around it around America against it as well. Yeah, 84 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: I think one thing's one thing's for sure. It's going 85 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: to generate the biggest ratings for a super Bowl possibly ever, 86 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: which is saying something because watched five hundred and fifty million. 87 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 5: She's just there cheering on her boyfriend. 88 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: She's going to fly? Is she from? She goes from? 89 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: Because she got no strategy to it? 90 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: Next week, Yeah, I can confirm. I can confirm she 91 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 3: has officially touched down in Vegas. She brought a girl squad, 92 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: including Blake Lively and a few other celebs as well. 93 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 3: There's always Pieter celebtis super Bowl. 94 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: Space for the airport for the swifty? Yeah, mum swift 95 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: as well. 96 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: To give you an idea, yeah, yeah, Just. 97 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: Back to the game made itself? Can you explain one 98 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: thing to me. 99 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 2: I've never understood all of a sudden, all of the 100 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: team comes off and they replace it with another team. 101 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: What's going on there? 102 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: Well, actually, each each team has three teams on the sideline. 103 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: That's why you see so many of them. You've got 104 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: your offense, you've got your defense, and then you've got 105 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: something called special teams, which is like Mitch Mitch the 106 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: Perth punter, so he'll come on during the special teams component. 107 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: And because the game is so explosive and is so 108 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: detailed in terms of the strategy. So on every particular play, 109 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: each of the eleven players on each team has a 110 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: very defined role. And so you're talking about a playbook 111 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 3: that might have two hundred and fifty individual plays where 112 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: you have to do a different thing on each play. 113 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 3: So there's just too much information to learn for people 114 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 3: to play offense and defense. And so you find maybe 115 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: there are a couple of fringe players on the defense 116 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 3: that might come on on special teams, but generally speaking, 117 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: you've got three complete sets of eleven players on each 118 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: team that will do their roles on the offense and 119 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: defense and special teams. 120 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 5: There you go, this game is not for the everyman. 121 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 4: Ben I was having a look at the ticket prices 122 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 4: to go, and I'm pretty sure I read that the 123 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 4: cheapest seat for today's game was just short of ten 124 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: thousand dollars. 125 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, that's absolutely This is the most highly prized 126 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: sporting event in America. And also this year you're talking 127 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: about a game that's in Vegas. Yeah, it's thee you 128 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 3: think about. You think about people who get excited to 129 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: go to the AFL Grand Final at the MCG, imagine 130 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 3: if it was in Vegas. So it's just on another level. 131 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 3: But this is just so many incredible storylines. I can 132 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 3: give you a couple if you're interested pro tel Okay, Okay, 133 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: so you've got so you've got the Chiefs. They're looking 134 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: at a dynasty. So they've already won two Super Bowls 135 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: in the past four years. If they win another one, 136 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: which will be their second in a row, you'd be 137 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: talking about a quarterback in Patrick Mahomes for the Chiefs 138 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: who's on track to be Brady. So you're talking about 139 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: maybe a futured goat in action in Patrick Mahomes playing 140 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: a quarterback for the forty nine Ers a couple of 141 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: years ago. He was picked with the very last pick 142 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: in the NFL draft. So the name of that player, 143 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: the name for that player every year is called mister Irrelevant. 144 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: Brock thirty for the forty nine Ers has made himself 145 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: very relevant, indeed starting a Super Bowl. So straight away, 146 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: in just those two players alone, you've got some very 147 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: very interesting history in the making and the Super Bowls 148 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: filled with stories like that. 149 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 5: All right, that is for normally, do you want to 150 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 5: give us a prediction here? 151 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: A you're going for mate? 152 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: Okay, it's a tough one. This is a really tricky one, 153 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: and I suspect this game will be a classics for 154 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: the Ages. The forty nine ers, no doubt, are better 155 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 3: on paper, more offensive playmakers. The defense is stacked with superstars. 156 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: They were a top three offense and defense during the 157 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: regular season. But the Chiefs have the best player in 158 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 3: the world in Patrick Mahomes. They have Travis Keller see 159 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift's boyfriend, who is one of those freak sports 160 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: people who plays best when the pressure is on. And 161 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: I just can't. I just can't bet against Patrick Mahomes 162 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: if it comes down to one play. He's a superstar. 163 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: So I think I think the Chiefs will win twenty 164 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: seven to twenty four. 165 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 5: Oh wait, seven to twenty four. 166 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: We know how much, we know how much you'd love 167 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: to be there, Ben, How are you going to get 168 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: any work done today? 169 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: Be honest? 170 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: Well, I'm I'm supposed to be writing writing an article 171 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: about the Super Bowl, so I'll have to try and 172 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: dial down Mike Cybernarka and finish and do something. 173 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 4: You talk very good, Ben, I enjoy the super Bowl 174 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 4: today and we'll see you on Thursday. 175 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 176 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: Thanks, but very informative folk movie. 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