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Speaker 1: We are due to catch up with Neville Pansazis from

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Speaker 1: the president of the Parap Village Traders Association, also very

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Speaker 1: well known from the beautiful Parap Fine Foods, in just

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Speaker 1: a couple of moments to talk a little bit further

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Speaker 1: about these proposed plans when it comes to Perap, the

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Speaker 1: markets there and whether we might see some additional green

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Speaker 1: space or exactly what the market's committee would like to

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Speaker 1: see in that area and what kind of difference I

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Speaker 1: guess it could make in terms of those of us

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Speaker 1: visiting the markets and making it a little bit more enjoyable. Well,

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Speaker 1: joining me on the line, I've actually got him right now,

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Speaker 1: Right now, it is Neville Pansazis. Good morning to you,

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Speaker 1: Neville Kat, Thanks so much for your time this morning. Now, Neville,

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Speaker 1: I understand that there has been some discussion about whether

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Speaker 1: we could make some changes to the Parap markets in

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Speaker 1: terms of it, I guess being a little bit more

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Speaker 1: green space, bit more enjoyable for everybody that attends each

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the whole idea in terms of it's almost

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Speaker 2: an extension of what Council and government have done through

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Speaker 2: kevinar Street and our boulevard and it's saying, well, look,

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Speaker 2: you know it's looking so good, we've really got to

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Speaker 2: start planting more trees and get this shade happening, which

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Speaker 2: is part of what we've been discussing for the last

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Speaker 2: keen years with you people like Aldham and Simon Niblock,

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Speaker 2: who's been instrumental in assisting us in getting us to

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Speaker 2: where we are today with our proposal.

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Speaker 1: And so Neville, where is that proposal at and and

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Speaker 1: you know, talk us through what you'd like to see there.

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Speaker 2: Well, the proposal is quite a costly one in the

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Speaker 2: sense that we're not only looking at the cosmetics, and

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Speaker 2: you know we're not. We're not We're not trying to

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Speaker 2: change the face of Prap. What we're looking at is

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Speaker 2: the integral running of the whole suburb as such. In

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Speaker 2: terms of the first thing was tackling the drainage issues

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Speaker 2: that we've got in this area. We've got old drainage

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Speaker 2: systems that need to be fixed. So there's a big

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Speaker 2: cost there. Now, that's one side of it. Put that aside.

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Speaker 2: In terms of answering your question, what we'd like to

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Speaker 2: do is the proposal is to basically pinch the road

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Speaker 2: in front of Mick Well, what is was Michael Gunner's office,

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Speaker 2: which is now Brent Potter's office, taking all of that

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Speaker 2: because if you have a look at it even today,

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Speaker 2: there's so much shade there that we're shading cars and

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Speaker 2: we're what we're trying to do is, you know, expand

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Speaker 2: this whole concept of just making our lives a little

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Speaker 2: to suburbs and actually stay shop here, stay here, eat here,

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Speaker 2: use the cafes here, use all amenities that are here.

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Speaker 2: So if we can create the greening, then you know,

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Speaker 2: I think it's just going to make our life in

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Speaker 2: dar And that much better.

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Speaker 1: And Neville. Look, some people listening might be thinking, what

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Speaker 1: about the car parking. It's already hard enough to get

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Speaker 1: a park, you know when you go to the market,

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Speaker 1: but how many parks are you talking sort of taking

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Speaker 1: out and making into nice lawned area.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've used an architectural firm within the area, Rossy Architects,

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Speaker 2: and ultimately, as much as we might be taking from

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Speaker 2: one area, we're actually gaining by redirecting, taking away the

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Speaker 2: angle parking in certain areas. So if we lose you know,

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Speaker 2: twenty car parks. We're gaining probably eighteen somewhere else right,

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Speaker 2: So overall it's kind of a nice balance. The advantage

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Speaker 2: of what we're doing also means that on a Saturday,

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Speaker 2: what we're trying to do is flow that traffic or

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Speaker 2: ultimately take away the traffic from one side, which is

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Speaker 2: the the Happy Garden side where you know, we won't

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Speaker 2: have cars coming in in that direction side. That opens

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: We're also looking at taking all the food stools out

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Speaker 2: of Vimy Lane, which is a lane that goes up

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Speaker 2: to the northern center of contemporary Art towards Saffron, and

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Speaker 2: having that all as tables chairs as an eating where people.

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Speaker 2: So we want to bring more tables and chairs so

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Speaker 2: people can actually stay. The trees are grown there as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we've got lots of shade there, so we're kind of

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Speaker 2: halfway there with greening. Yeah. You know, we're really lucky

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Speaker 1: It is such a beautiful area and it is an

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Speaker 1: area like we know that the parat markets are somewhere

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Speaker 1: enticing as we can could only be a good thing. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess the big question is you know, where's the

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Speaker 2: Well, what we've what we've proposed is you know, we've

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Speaker 2: seen what's happened in Columbay, and you know that that's

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Speaker 2: that's for us, that's exactly what we want to see.

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Speaker 2: You know, suburbs like that that are becoming a lot

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Speaker 2: more active. What we want to do also is still

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Speaker 2: maintain perhaps as the iconic suburb to be. And then

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Speaker 2: if we do what we do and encourage Nightcliff and

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Speaker 2: Rubber Creek and stew a part. Okay, where's the money

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Speaker 2: going to come from? We always scream to council, we

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Speaker 2: always scream to government. The whole idea is that you know,

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Speaker 2: if it's a fifteen million dollar project, we're not we're

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Speaker 2: not asking for fifteen million, fifteen million dollars straight up

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Speaker 2: two to three million dollar a year pose or where

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Speaker 2: we can do this in stages at least, we're working

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Speaker 2: towards you know, a probably a ten year plan.

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Speaker 1: Never what are the next steps. How are you going

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Speaker 1: to sort of you know, move forward and try and

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Speaker 1: get these happening. Talking to you well and bringing the

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Speaker 1: community on board.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing yeah, yeah. I mean, look, everybody is on board.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you talk to council, combat scholars, if

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Speaker 2: you talk to you know, with local governance in our area,

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Speaker 2: you know, Michael Gunner and now Brent Potter. Everyone is

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Speaker 2: in favor of it. Everyone loves the idea. But at

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Speaker 2: the same time, we've just got to be patient and

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Speaker 2: wait until funds are available. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: it's not something that we've we've you know, we've we've

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Speaker 2: because every idea doesn't necessarily mean that it's a great idea.

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Speaker 2: What we're saying is, look, this is our proposal, have

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Speaker 2: a look at it. What do you think At this stage,

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Speaker 2: we're just getting we're getting the kick, so most people

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Speaker 2: are loving it, they love the idea. We're still getting

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Speaker 1: And Neville, do you think that you know that by

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Speaker 1: having more green space there that it could increase any

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Speaker 1: issues that you've had with anti social behavior? Oh?

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Speaker 2: You know what, Yeah, I don't know. I kind of

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Speaker 2: think not in the sense that if we've got more

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Speaker 2: because don't forget, wherever there's a tree, it's always two

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Speaker 2: three degrees cooler. And we did that walk down Gregory Street,

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Speaker 2: like Kavanagh streets. They are really hot streets. So so

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I kind of feel like it's going

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Speaker 2: to be good for everyone. So yeah, no, look I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely, And I think that that is everybody's

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Speaker 1: hope as well. And you know, the more enticing that

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Speaker 1: we can make Darwin and make the Northern Territory, I

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Speaker 1: think the better. You know, sometimes you travel away to

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Speaker 1: different places and you see different markets and different you know,

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Speaker 1: different sort of tourism destinations and the way that they've

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Speaker 1: what is already a wonderful thing for tourists to come

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and you know, you've got to give thanks to

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Speaker 2: people like Jimmy Chu who it's a way that he

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Speaker 2: documented Darwin in his his in his FBS series was

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Speaker 2: filmed the Rabbit Creek Market. That was amazing. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: know we're using different filters than what have you, but

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Speaker 2: it just goes to show you that what we're seeing here,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you could be anywhere in the world. But

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Speaker 2: the thing is, that's the other thing though, we don't

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Speaker 2: want to be in Melbourne. We don't want to be Sydney.

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Speaker 2: We want to say and keep our territory, you know,

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Speaker 2: our own signature. So what we're doing is hopefully keeping

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Speaker 2: within within the chitory theme.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Neville, I'll be really interested to hear how

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Speaker 1: it progresses. We might see if if you do have

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Speaker 1: any plans or anything that we could have a look

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Speaker 1: at and possibly pop up online for our listeners to

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Speaker 1: have a look at. We'd be really interested in doing that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time this morning and

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Speaker 1: talking us through it all.

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Speaker 2: You're very welcome and I'll arrange with those plans to

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Speaker 2: get to come to you.

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Speaker 1: You're a legend. Thank you, Neville. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Gtty, thank you,