WEBVTT - FULL SHOW: Why couples are more likely to split after Baby No. 2? 0:00:10.379 --> 0:00:14.219 Hi Heart Podcasts, hear more Kiss podcast playlist and listen 0:00:14.259 --> 0:00:16.099 live on the Free iHeart app. 0:00:19.499 --> 0:00:22.218 Good Pickup with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn. 0:00:22.619 --> 0:00:27.139 Brady, your work, our windows down, that's my worldris in 0:00:27.139 --> 0:00:29.619 the dust, only good zabs all down. 0:00:30.659 --> 0:00:34.699 I've done much, but yeah I'm not. I'll big get 0:00:34.699 --> 0:00:35.659 and what I want. 0:00:35.939 --> 0:00:37.059 It don't matter where. 0:00:37.699 --> 0:00:41.339 This is the pickup. Happy hum day afternoon everyone. It 0:00:41.419 --> 0:00:43.179 is the pick Up with Britt Hockley and Laura Burn. 0:00:43.379 --> 0:00:45.138 Are you feeling this fine Wednesday? 0:00:45.219 --> 0:00:47.699 Laura, I mean I'm feeling good now. We had a 0:00:47.739 --> 0:00:49.059 little bit of a setback this week. 0:00:49.219 --> 0:00:52.419 We had. I say we because I do. 0:00:52.739 --> 0:00:55.139 Think that when your kids are in kindergarten and they 0:00:55.219 --> 0:00:57.859 have assignments, Jew, that it also kind of falls on 0:00:57.859 --> 0:00:58.499 the parent as well. 0:00:58.499 --> 0:00:59.899 Like it's like we had an assignment, Jew. 0:01:00.099 --> 0:01:03.739 No kindergartener is doing assignments on their own. Everything is 0:01:03.779 --> 0:01:04.179 the parent. 0:01:04.259 --> 0:01:06.339 But also like, I don't know how a lot of 0:01:06.379 --> 0:01:09.419 parents have time for the homework part of school. And 0:01:09.459 --> 0:01:11.699 I say this because if your kids are going to 0:01:11.779 --> 0:01:14.338 after school care and they don't finish school until five o'clock, 0:01:14.339 --> 0:01:15.938 my kids are in bed at six thirty. Yeah, they 0:01:15.979 --> 0:01:17.339 got to come home, they got to eat dinner, and 0:01:17.378 --> 0:01:20.499 then they're in bed. We were a little bit late 0:01:21.298 --> 0:01:23.859 for Marley's first school project. 0:01:24.018 --> 0:01:25.219 What is a little bit late? 0:01:25.298 --> 0:01:28.419 We were a week late, oh, getting the first project in. 0:01:28.658 --> 0:01:32.298 It's okay. We got an extension. It was extension on. 0:01:32.219 --> 0:01:35.658 Your first project when you're in kidd That is wild. 0:01:35.818 --> 0:01:39.859 And it was on her favorite number, which is number six. Okay, yeah, 0:01:40.219 --> 0:01:41.219 is that because she's six? 0:01:41.499 --> 0:01:42.538 Well, she turned six tomorrow. 0:01:42.578 --> 0:01:44.658 It's her birthday, so she wanted to maybe she wanted 0:01:44.699 --> 0:01:46.298 to delay it so it was within her birthday week, 0:01:46.339 --> 0:01:47.298 so it made a bit more sense. 0:01:47.339 --> 0:01:49.819 Do you know what. I don't have children, but I 0:01:49.819 --> 0:01:51.579 think school are two lax these days. 0:01:52.539 --> 0:01:55.619 Back in my day, if you had just signed MAC children, No, 0:01:55.699 --> 0:01:57.219 we don't recommend it used to tie. 0:01:57.099 --> 0:01:59.419 Us up to the chairs. If you had an assignment juke. 0:01:59.539 --> 0:02:01.538 It was juke like you would lose points every day. 0:02:01.539 --> 0:02:03.499 It wasn't du because it taught you like discipline and 0:02:03.539 --> 0:02:05.699 structure and that you know, you can't just run your 0:02:05.699 --> 0:02:06.219 own race. 0:02:06.299 --> 0:02:08.739 No, but also it's our fault. I'm not going to 0:02:08.779 --> 0:02:10.619 blame a six year old for that. It is our 0:02:10.619 --> 0:02:13.819 fault that it hasn't been submitted. But also we were 0:02:13.859 --> 0:02:16.698 away for your wedding. That's my fault, it's your fault, 0:02:18.059 --> 0:02:20.179 your wedding, and so she was overseas and that's why 0:02:20.179 --> 0:02:22.619 it got delayed. But she's just when it comes to homework. 0:02:22.659 --> 0:02:24.579 She's really smart, she's doing so well, but she is 0:02:24.619 --> 0:02:26.258 not motivated to get the homework side. 0:02:26.138 --> 0:02:26.899 Of things done. 0:02:27.138 --> 0:02:29.739 I remember being in kindergarten and going to my first 0:02:29.819 --> 0:02:32.219 interview with our school principal and. 0:02:32.179 --> 0:02:33.698 He had this big wooden desk. 0:02:34.339 --> 0:02:35.939 I don't think he ever used it, but he just 0:02:35.978 --> 0:02:38.978 had a cane on display, like in a holder on. 0:02:38.899 --> 0:02:42.539 His desk to subtle flex just I don't have to 0:02:42.619 --> 0:02:43.898 use it, but you know it's there and I don't 0:02:43.899 --> 0:02:44.698 have to say anything about it. 0:02:44.779 --> 0:02:46.698 School has definitely changed and it's definitely not a bad thing. 0:02:46.899 --> 0:02:49.258 All right, Well, everyone put your books out for Marley May. 0:02:50.899 --> 0:02:54.379 Now recently we traveled over to Bali for your wedding. 0:02:54.499 --> 0:02:57.619 We did, we did, and wonderful it really was. 0:02:57.859 --> 0:02:59.979 Do you know what was in a highlight though, Matt 0:03:00.019 --> 0:03:01.819 trying to out my wedding before I had it. 0:03:02.418 --> 0:03:03.699 That was away a light for you. 0:03:04.099 --> 0:03:06.699 While speaking of my husband, No, the hardest part of 0:03:06.739 --> 0:03:10.538 traveling international when you have kids is the travel part, right, 0:03:10.538 --> 0:03:13.019 It's the booking the flights, it's getting them to the airport. 0:03:13.739 --> 0:03:15.779 But one thing that I think we don't consider enough 0:03:15.939 --> 0:03:19.739 is the seat orientation, Like what is the best seat 0:03:19.779 --> 0:03:22.939 selection when you were either traveling as a solo parent 0:03:23.019 --> 0:03:25.059 with your kids and like Matt had to come over 0:03:25.099 --> 0:03:27.059 by himself. So my husband, Matt, he flew over with 0:03:27.099 --> 0:03:30.459 our two girls. Yeah, completely solo. He put up on 0:03:30.499 --> 0:03:35.179 his Instagram that he was tempted to try a new 0:03:35.259 --> 0:03:36.178 seating arrangement. 0:03:36.259 --> 0:03:37.939 Now, keep in mind, we've got a five year old 0:03:37.939 --> 0:03:38.579 and a four year old. 0:03:38.619 --> 0:03:41.099 They're still really young and they're at an age where 0:03:41.099 --> 0:03:42.659 they need to be supervised on a flight. 0:03:42.739 --> 0:03:44.139 But what Matt wanted. 0:03:43.899 --> 0:03:46.379 To book and what he ended up booking, was the 0:03:46.419 --> 0:03:49.739 girls sitting completely by themselves on the window seat and 0:03:49.859 --> 0:03:53.059 him sitting completely by himself on the aisle seat. 0:03:53.619 --> 0:03:56.579 Now I thought that this sounded like absolute madness. 0:03:56.659 --> 0:03:58.259 I'm like, if you're traveling with kids, and I've done 0:03:58.259 --> 0:04:01.139 a few international flights with our kids by myself, and 0:04:01.379 --> 0:04:03.419 I've always sat next to them in the middle, like 0:04:03.539 --> 0:04:06.219 contain them, sit between them and they're fighting, you can 0:04:06.219 --> 0:04:09.099 pass out the snacks like you're there and you're ready 0:04:09.099 --> 0:04:09.819 to supervise. 0:04:10.139 --> 0:04:11.738 Why would you have not sat with them? Was only 0:04:11.779 --> 0:04:13.059 two seats in the aisle, not three? 0:04:13.259 --> 0:04:15.259 I don't know none of those options for three as well. 0:04:15.499 --> 0:04:17.339 You could have sat it could have sat in the 0:04:17.379 --> 0:04:18.099 middle of the kids. 0:04:18.899 --> 0:04:20.339 Now, we had a bit of a debate about this, 0:04:20.579 --> 0:04:22.698 and I have him on the line because I'm still 0:04:22.739 --> 0:04:26.459 confused as to how he thought or maybe still thinks 0:04:26.459 --> 0:04:28.219 that this is the way to go and that this 0:04:28.299 --> 0:04:29.619 is what parents should be doing for the. 0:04:29.579 --> 0:04:31.539 Solution of how to travel with kids. 0:04:31.619 --> 0:04:35.139 All right, how long? Jerry Springer mat Hello, my darling. 0:04:35.779 --> 0:04:38.339 Hello lady? How are we. 0:04:37.659 --> 0:04:40.179 Were very well, probably better than you after flying Soli 0:04:40.259 --> 0:04:40.779 by yourself. 0:04:41.099 --> 0:04:43.139 What was your reasoning behind this? 0:04:43.339 --> 0:04:46.819 Firstly, well, I like to think of this trip as 0:04:46.899 --> 0:04:52.179 a scientific experiment. I'm trying to make breakthroughs to the 0:04:52.259 --> 0:04:55.259 industry of parenting. It's a selfless act for me. 0:04:55.659 --> 0:04:56.979 What I do want to say, though, is I was 0:04:56.979 --> 0:04:59.979 shocked by how many people on your socials were saying 0:04:59.979 --> 0:05:01.579 that it was a good idea, that they tried this, 0:05:01.659 --> 0:05:02.699 and they actually thought it was. 0:05:02.779 --> 0:05:04.299 But it was the secret source. 0:05:04.379 --> 0:05:06.459 You could have all sat together, though that's the question. 0:05:08.219 --> 0:05:10.659 Yes, very good question, Brutin. I'm glad you asked it. 0:05:11.059 --> 0:05:14.259 I thought what I was trying to achieve here is 0:05:14.339 --> 0:05:16.499 the fact that we have two kids, Miley and Lala. 0:05:16.539 --> 0:05:19.939 They are now four and five, for reference, old enough 0:05:20.219 --> 0:05:24.339 to talk after themselves, all right, and so I, yes, old. 0:05:24.219 --> 0:05:25.419 Enough to look after themselves. 0:05:25.859 --> 0:05:29.139 Four their self contained. And I just thought it would 0:05:29.179 --> 0:05:31.099 be nice on a six and a half hour flight 0:05:31.219 --> 0:05:35.099 by myself as a solo parent. May I add, Laura, 0:05:35.099 --> 0:05:37.699 I hope you're enjoying your mocktails by the pool. I 0:05:37.779 --> 0:05:39.739 just it it'd be nice to have some reprieve from 0:05:39.779 --> 0:05:41.739 the kids. Like I can watch my movie, they can 0:05:41.779 --> 0:05:45.379 watch their movie. They're happy, I'm happy, everybody has a 0:05:45.379 --> 0:05:45.859 great time. 0:05:45.939 --> 0:05:48.459 I do have a question here, then, So I know 0:05:48.539 --> 0:05:52.219 that Laura was enjoying her cocktail mockshow mockow she's pregnant. 0:05:52.259 --> 0:05:54.099 But what about how just a couple of months ago 0:05:54.219 --> 0:05:56.739 she traveled twenty seven hours alone with the kids to 0:05:56.739 --> 0:05:58.619 South Africa while you'd been away in the jungle for 0:05:58.659 --> 0:05:59.019 a month. 0:05:59.579 --> 0:06:01.219 You know what, we made that trip a lot better 0:06:01.499 --> 0:06:03.699 if she had separated herself from the children. 0:06:05.259 --> 0:06:07.899 I think, Look, maybe you're onto something. I feel like 0:06:07.899 --> 0:06:09.859 this is genius for the parent and terrible for everyone 0:06:09.899 --> 0:06:11.539 who's sitting around. The children want it that way. 0:06:11.659 --> 0:06:12.299 Did it work? 0:06:13.139 --> 0:06:16.459 Look, I'll be honest, it didn't work as well as 0:06:16.499 --> 0:06:19.899 I thought it would have because the kids didn't sleep. 0:06:20.419 --> 0:06:22.659 If they would have slept, it would have been a 0:06:22.699 --> 0:06:25.059 lot better. But I just think it's really important to 0:06:25.059 --> 0:06:27.459 say that at the first hurdle you shouldn't give up. Like, 0:06:27.499 --> 0:06:30.499 for example, Oppenheimer, right, he was trying to make a 0:06:30.579 --> 0:06:33.178 nuclear bomb. If he'd given up after the first mistake, 0:06:33.299 --> 0:06:38.419 we never would have had it. Driving the barriers are 0:06:38.419 --> 0:06:41.579 parenting to make sure that we have these breakthrough it 0:06:41.659 --> 0:06:44.099 will work. It didn't work on this trip, but it's 0:06:44.099 --> 0:06:45.499 important for me not to give up. 0:06:45.539 --> 0:06:45.819 All right. 0:06:45.819 --> 0:06:48.859 Well, speaking of pushing the boundaries and pushing the hurdles. 0:06:48.899 --> 0:06:51.299 On the flat home, which Matt also booked, he booked 0:06:51.299 --> 0:06:52.939 three seats together and one of them solo. 0:06:53.019 --> 0:06:55.499 And let's all have a guess which parents sat solo. 0:06:56.019 --> 0:07:00.499 Not a shock, Matt, Thank you for l heroes where Cape, thank. 0:07:00.299 --> 0:07:03.059 You for do you can't just wrap me up? 0:07:04.139 --> 0:07:06.979 I just did well, Laura. 0:07:07.019 --> 0:07:09.699 It is that time of year again where Australia has 0:07:09.739 --> 0:07:13.979 the version of the Oscars. It is Gold Logi nomination time. 0:07:14.619 --> 0:07:17.219 The nominations have come out and do you know what, 0:07:17.339 --> 0:07:19.619 the women are absolutely cleaning up. 0:07:19.659 --> 0:07:21.059 There's only one bloke. 0:07:21.139 --> 0:07:22.939 I think Hamish Blake is not surprising. 0:07:23.099 --> 0:07:25.299 I know, I mean he's going to be literally dying. 0:07:25.499 --> 0:07:27.419 There's going to be one male who makes it into 0:07:27.419 --> 0:07:28.659 the Logi nomination who direct. 0:07:28.699 --> 0:07:29.819 It's going to be Hamish Blake. 0:07:29.979 --> 0:07:32.419 But there's so many incredible women that have been nominated, 0:07:32.539 --> 0:07:36.019 but one I'm very excited about TV Legend, TV veteran. 0:07:36.099 --> 0:07:37.139 I was in the jungle with her. 0:07:37.259 --> 0:07:39.299 She has hosted I'm a Celebrity to Get Me out 0:07:39.299 --> 0:07:42.579 of Here eleven times. She has been nominated for a 0:07:42.659 --> 0:07:45.219 Gold Logi four times. 0:07:44.859 --> 0:07:46.859 And for some reason, is yet to win. We're going 0:07:46.939 --> 0:07:49.699 to try and change that. Julia Morris, Welcome. 0:07:49.339 --> 0:07:49.819 To the show. 0:07:50.219 --> 0:07:50.419 Well. 0:07:50.459 --> 0:07:52.139 I couldn't be more thrilled to be here with you, 0:07:52.459 --> 0:07:53.459 glorious humans. 0:07:53.659 --> 0:07:54.059 Julia. 0:07:54.219 --> 0:07:56.939 We are hard on the campaign trail for you this year. 0:07:57.019 --> 0:07:59.059 We are so behind you. I thought you were a 0:07:59.059 --> 0:08:02.379 shoeing last year that this year. It is twenty twenty five, 0:08:02.499 --> 0:08:04.139 it is the year of Julia Morris. 0:08:04.179 --> 0:08:09.459 Surely it's the year of the old male. Oh my god. 0:08:09.459 --> 0:08:12.579 Everyone's saying, what's the campaigning going to be? Like, I'm like, 0:08:14.059 --> 0:08:17.139 I can barely like feed compass for the pick up 0:08:17.179 --> 0:08:20.259 and drop off. I do not know that I'm up campaigning. 0:08:20.299 --> 0:08:22.619 You feel like a knucklehead campaigning. So I'm like, oh, 0:08:23.459 --> 0:08:26.579 a friend of mine and I just as a coincidentally, 0:08:26.979 --> 0:08:29.139 we're sort of whinging about how can we don't you know? 0:08:29.219 --> 0:08:31.339 I was whinging she's not in television. I was like, hey, 0:08:31.419 --> 0:08:34.179 com I keep sort of missing out on bits and pieces. 0:08:34.219 --> 0:08:35.939 I know, I am hosting one of the biggest shows 0:08:35.939 --> 0:08:38.179 in the country, so it seems a bit disingenuous. But 0:08:38.619 --> 0:08:40.498 I'm like, you know, looking for like, what's the next 0:08:40.499 --> 0:08:42.339 thing going to be? How do I broaden out, you know, 0:08:42.579 --> 0:08:47.019 just to earn money to pay the org? Yeah, I 0:08:47.099 --> 0:08:49.659 mean we all know. As a matter of time, everybody 0:08:49.699 --> 0:08:55.379 loves the sound of slapping. When I released the Double d's, 0:08:56.339 --> 0:09:00.299 it sounds like you're ad oc cob affairs, And that's 0:09:00.459 --> 0:09:04.179 another story altogether. I have been like a complete maniac. 0:09:04.259 --> 0:09:06.179 So the thought of now going into some weird self 0:09:06.219 --> 0:09:08.459 promotion thing, my maid and I I said to her, right, 0:09:09.019 --> 0:09:11.379 let's make a chat show in the backyard. I feel 0:09:11.539 --> 0:09:14.699 my backyards the epick, let's make a chat show. The 0:09:14.739 --> 0:09:17.739 first episode it's literally it's mostly out of the back 0:09:17.779 --> 0:09:20.458 of our heads. Oh my god, it's so funny. It 0:09:20.619 --> 0:09:25.099 just accidentally turned into a little mini internet sitcom and 0:09:25.459 --> 0:09:27.939 it's just a couple of people who have no idea 0:09:28.019 --> 0:09:31.939 what they're doing, and it's beyond hilarious. We've haven't been 0:09:31.939 --> 0:09:33.339 doing parkour Do you. 0:09:33.379 --> 0:09:34.179 Talk in my language? 0:09:34.219 --> 0:09:34.379 Now? 0:09:34.419 --> 0:09:36.059 I do sporadic park or two? Julia? 0:09:36.099 --> 0:09:37.659 Sorry, do we think that this is going to shift 0:09:37.699 --> 0:09:39.259 the dial on the votes? Are you just having a 0:09:39.259 --> 0:09:42.059 good time in between? Like what, we've got to get the. 0:09:42.139 --> 0:09:44.859 Votes as weidental? Well, the thing is, I thought, well, 0:09:44.859 --> 0:09:47.219 what will end up happening is if my audience that 0:09:47.299 --> 0:09:50.339 followed me on all my bits and pieces are chill 0:09:50.459 --> 0:09:54.019 with me, not ramming the logos down their throats. And 0:09:54.059 --> 0:09:56.459 so I'm hoping just the fact that I have put 0:09:56.499 --> 0:10:00.499 some effort into making something while a massive life is 0:10:00.539 --> 0:10:02.979 swirling around us all at all times. 0:10:03.299 --> 0:10:04.979 Do you reckon it's going to be the biggest competition 0:10:05.019 --> 0:10:06.459 this year? I mean, do you look at that and 0:10:06.459 --> 0:10:08.739 figure sit there going, oh, they did this and they'd. 0:10:08.899 --> 0:10:13.659 Yeah, absolutely, absolutely deep down because you're like, you know, 0:10:13.819 --> 0:10:15.659 you would love to take it. I would love to 0:10:15.659 --> 0:10:18.179 be in history as one of those names. It is 0:10:18.219 --> 0:10:21.179 a tremendous honor. I was talking to someone recently who 0:10:21.219 --> 0:10:23.179 was in House Husbands with me, one of the ladies, 0:10:23.819 --> 0:10:26.499 and we're saying, did you think we'd still be hustling 0:10:26.539 --> 0:10:27.619 at this age? 0:10:27.699 --> 0:10:28.019 It doesn't. 0:10:28.459 --> 0:10:31.539 He's like no, seeing as of other industries have moved 0:10:31.539 --> 0:10:34.019 on to either be CEO or CFO or special you 0:10:34.019 --> 0:10:37.259 know whatever FO and so, you know, but in the 0:10:37.379 --> 0:10:41.579 entertainment industry, everybody hustling. We're still hustling. 0:10:41.899 --> 0:10:44.019 Do you know what I think. I think you've got 0:10:44.019 --> 0:10:45.979 a I think you've got a little secret. 0:10:45.699 --> 0:10:49.218 Weapon right at your disposal. We've seen Robert Irwin take 0:10:49.259 --> 0:10:50.339 his shirt off with seeing him. 0:10:50.619 --> 0:10:53.379 Everyone loves him. He's your partner in crime. Get him 0:10:53.379 --> 0:10:55.379 amongst it, Like, I don't think it's I. 0:10:55.379 --> 0:10:57.819 Think ed borrow and plead, and if that means stealing 0:10:57.859 --> 0:10:59.779 your shirt to get him on your campaign trail again, 0:10:59.779 --> 0:11:00.539 I think you've got to do it. 0:11:00.979 --> 0:11:02.819 I had to start processing at the beginning of his 0:11:02.939 --> 0:11:05.899 sentence because I was just like, oh, do I need 0:11:05.899 --> 0:11:09.139 to get out of the Andies hang on ed the snake. 0:11:09.899 --> 0:11:11.699 I thought I'd seen enough snake, so I've got no 0:11:11.779 --> 0:11:16.819 business with them. And yeah, maybe I'm in the Andies 0:11:16.819 --> 0:11:18.979 in the front yard on the astro tour. 0:11:19.739 --> 0:11:21.578 You could do it together. We don't discriminate. 0:11:21.939 --> 0:11:24.339 You guys are having a very parallel experience at the 0:11:24.339 --> 0:11:26.539 moment because he's about to start shooting Dancing with the 0:11:26.579 --> 0:11:27.499 Stars in the US. 0:11:27.539 --> 0:11:30.019 And actually Sonya, Sonya's up for a LOGI as well. 0:11:30.059 --> 0:11:31.939 It's you're up against absolutely. 0:11:32.339 --> 0:11:34.739 That was the other great pleasure about it yesterday. And 0:11:34.979 --> 0:11:36.979 when you're saying like you do, do you eye up 0:11:37.019 --> 0:11:40.379 the competition? I mean we're all laughy you what six 0:11:40.459 --> 0:11:48.379 women nominated? One man takes its stop that also, HAMI like, 0:11:48.499 --> 0:11:53.379 please please nobody vote for me, And I was like, mate, 0:11:54.219 --> 0:11:56.578 you know, get your game on. None of us want 0:11:56.619 --> 0:11:58.059 to handed it to us. And let me tell you, 0:11:58.179 --> 0:12:01.979 every single person on that stage, if they talk it 0:12:02.139 --> 0:12:05.578 you go worthy winner though, Yeah, worthy winner. 0:12:05.379 --> 0:12:09.179 Yes, Julia, we are and so so have your back 0:12:09.219 --> 0:12:09.499 on this. 0:12:09.659 --> 0:12:11.419 We can't wait to see you up there on stage. 0:12:12.099 --> 0:12:14.619 Oh my goodness. Well, let me tell you the speech 0:12:14.619 --> 0:12:16.819 would be unbridled because I've got a feeling the vibe 0:12:16.779 --> 0:12:20.619 as would have worn off like hours before, so I 0:12:20.619 --> 0:12:25.099 would be and so the h I gets very scared 0:12:25.379 --> 0:12:28.299 of you know, around that five to eleven at night, 0:12:28.419 --> 0:12:30.339 you're like, oh, that's Mummy's witching hour. 0:12:30.899 --> 0:12:34.099 That and that's when you're that's when you're well around 0:12:34.099 --> 0:12:35.699 There is to vote just for that to see it, 0:12:36.139 --> 0:12:39.619 I'll be like, level, yeah, I've even told my haters, 0:12:39.659 --> 0:12:39.859 am I. 0:12:40.139 --> 0:12:42.899 From what I've observed with the Gold Logi, you sort 0:12:42.899 --> 0:12:45.379 of then down disappeared not long after that. So you're like, well, 0:12:45.779 --> 0:12:48.338 his thing. If you hate me, you can make me 0:12:48.499 --> 0:12:50.499 go away by giving me this goal LOGI. 0:12:52.379 --> 0:12:54.458 There's both sides. You can vote. Now, go and vote 0:12:54.459 --> 0:12:55.339 for Julia Morris to. 0:12:55.379 --> 0:12:57.578 Win the Gold Logi at the TV week logos. Everyone, 0:12:57.619 --> 0:12:59.179 it's a TV Week logis dot com. 0:12:59.059 --> 0:12:59.419 Dot at you. 0:13:01.419 --> 0:13:04.419 I was something the other day now, and I say 0:13:04.459 --> 0:13:08.579 this because my Instagram social media algorithm is one one 0:13:08.659 --> 0:13:10.819 hundred percent pregnancy and baby related. 0:13:10.859 --> 0:13:12.539 At the moment, I thought even they served something like 0:13:12.619 --> 0:13:15.939 you had a restaurant, like someone served divorce papers. 0:13:15.979 --> 0:13:17.859 Actually I did not get served divorce papers, but it 0:13:17.939 --> 0:13:18.899 is what we're talking about. 0:13:19.379 --> 0:13:20.099 It's a new theory. 0:13:20.139 --> 0:13:21.979 And there was an article around it, and it's called 0:13:22.419 --> 0:13:27.338 second child divorce syndrome. Now it's all around when as 0:13:27.379 --> 0:13:29.419 a couple you go from having one kids to two 0:13:29.539 --> 0:13:32.419 kids and the additional stress that that puts on your 0:13:32.459 --> 0:13:35.979 relationship with your partner. I mean, when I reflect back 0:13:36.139 --> 0:13:39.059 on when we brought Lola into the world, and yes 0:13:39.139 --> 0:13:41.579 it was COVID and she was like we had our 0:13:41.659 --> 0:13:46.779 kids really close together, I was so deeply unprepared for 0:13:46.899 --> 0:13:49.419 how much going from one to two that transition was 0:13:49.459 --> 0:13:50.899 going to be so so hard for me. And I 0:13:50.939 --> 0:13:53.539 think because Matt and I had already had one kid, 0:13:53.739 --> 0:13:56.339 and having Marley, she was. 0:13:56.459 --> 0:13:57.419 She was an easy child. 0:13:57.499 --> 0:13:59.218 Yeah, what I realized now is that we had like 0:13:59.259 --> 0:14:00.059 a unicorn baby. 0:14:00.139 --> 0:14:03.219 She slept well, she ate well, she was a relatively 0:14:03.259 --> 0:14:05.979 easy baby, and it made us feel so cocky and 0:14:06.139 --> 0:14:07.019 secure that we were like. 0:14:07.059 --> 0:14:10.539 Oh my god, we've got this thing down, cake, Let's 0:14:10.579 --> 0:14:13.259 have a second one. And so we had Lola really 0:14:13.339 --> 0:14:14.019 shortly afterwards. 0:14:14.019 --> 0:14:18.059 They're only about nineteen twenty months apart, and going from 0:14:18.379 --> 0:14:22.019 one to two was by far the hardest transition that 0:14:22.099 --> 0:14:24.019 I've ever made in my adult life in any way 0:14:24.099 --> 0:14:26.459 and any capacity. I mean, when I think about work 0:14:26.539 --> 0:14:29.979 transitions or starting new jobs, or starting new relationships or 0:14:30.019 --> 0:14:33.899 going through breakups. One to two kids absolutely knocked me sideways. 0:14:34.099 --> 0:14:36.939 And it was trying to juggle two babies at two 0:14:36.979 --> 0:14:37.819 different schedules. 0:14:37.939 --> 0:14:38.699 It was the sleep. 0:14:39.179 --> 0:14:41.419 It's also the pressure it puts in your relationship because 0:14:41.459 --> 0:14:44.299 you no longer have time for the relationship and the 0:14:44.379 --> 0:14:46.219 same capacity that you did earlier. 0:14:46.499 --> 0:14:50.059 And on top of that, Lola wasn't necessarily the easiest baby. 0:14:50.179 --> 0:14:52.739 Yeah, she was a really tricky baby and didn't sleep 0:14:52.819 --> 0:14:55.019 well and there was a lot of crying, and I 0:14:55.179 --> 0:14:58.699 felt constantly touched out and exhausted because she would only 0:14:58.859 --> 0:15:00.339 sleep on me, so I had to have her in 0:15:00.419 --> 0:15:02.899 a carrier, sitting up in bed with two pillows prop 0:15:03.019 --> 0:15:04.819 behind me. And that's how I slept for six weeks, 0:15:04.939 --> 0:15:07.979 just sitting upright in my bed. And whenever I have 0:15:08.059 --> 0:15:10.739 friends who we're talking about having kids or they're in 0:15:10.939 --> 0:15:14.299 that sort of like the absolute trenches of the early 0:15:14.419 --> 0:15:18.419 years of parenting, I always say, don't make any decisions 0:15:18.459 --> 0:15:23.019 about your relationship when you're in those trenches, because something 0:15:23.059 --> 0:15:26.379 that feels completely permanent, like little being in that phase 0:15:26.419 --> 0:15:29.019 of little kids, when it's all consuming and how hard 0:15:29.099 --> 0:15:31.659 it can be on your relationship. Sometimes people make very 0:15:31.699 --> 0:15:34.899 permanent decisions around a time that is not permanent. And 0:15:34.979 --> 0:15:36.699 I say that because now that our kids are five 0:15:36.819 --> 0:15:38.979 years and four years, I kind of feel like I 0:15:39.059 --> 0:15:41.379 finally have a handle on it and it's so much easier, 0:15:41.579 --> 0:15:43.539 and Matt and I have so much more time for 0:15:43.619 --> 0:15:44.739 each other and where. 0:15:44.579 --> 0:15:46.019 You decide to have a third one, I we're in 0:15:46.139 --> 0:15:46.939 such a better space. 0:15:47.099 --> 0:15:51.419 But I think because now I understand how short lived 0:15:51.739 --> 0:15:54.979 that time is, that absolute pressure cooker of having little kids, 0:15:55.139 --> 0:15:57.219 is that it makes me feel a little bit better 0:15:57.259 --> 0:15:59.219 about the fact that, like we're all on the same page, 0:15:59.259 --> 0:16:01.179 all right, eighteen months, it's going to be really really hard, 0:16:01.539 --> 0:16:03.299 and then we're going to slowly come out and like 0:16:03.339 --> 0:16:05.099 come up for air again, and we're just kind of 0:16:05.539 --> 0:16:07.019 I think we're a little bit more prepared for the 0:16:07.059 --> 0:16:08.259 impact it's going to have this time. 0:16:08.619 --> 0:16:11.539 Yeah, yeah, rather than taking it and thinking, oh, it's doomsday. 0:16:11.619 --> 0:16:12.339 But what's the theory. 0:16:12.539 --> 0:16:14.899 Well, the theory is around how a lot of relationships 0:16:14.939 --> 0:16:16.859 break down in that period of going from one to 0:16:16.939 --> 0:16:19.779 two kids and how it has like some people feel 0:16:19.779 --> 0:16:23.739 as though it has this irreparable effect on their relationship 0:16:23.819 --> 0:16:24.939 that they can't get over. 0:16:25.619 --> 0:16:27.339 To be fair, I mean, I remember talking to my 0:16:27.379 --> 0:16:28.939 parents about this. My mum and dad had been married 0:16:28.979 --> 0:16:31.219 nearly fifty years and they've had four kids, and we're 0:16:31.259 --> 0:16:32.219 all really close. 0:16:32.779 --> 0:16:34.179 I remember them saying the same thing. 0:16:34.299 --> 0:16:37.379 It's like, you feel like you're never going to get 0:16:37.379 --> 0:16:39.299 out of it, and you feel like you're never going 0:16:39.379 --> 0:16:41.219 to be able to afford things again, you're never going 0:16:41.259 --> 0:16:43.059 to have time for each other again, you never whatever, 0:16:43.339 --> 0:16:45.859 you're never going to sleep properly again. And all of 0:16:45.899 --> 0:16:48.499 a sudden, the light lifts and then you're like, oh, Okay, 0:16:48.579 --> 0:16:50.059 the best years of my life were actually going to 0:16:50.099 --> 0:16:53.339 come after this because we stuck it through together and 0:16:53.419 --> 0:16:56.299 didn't make those decisions when you're in the depths of despair. 0:16:56.499 --> 0:16:56.659 Yeah. 0:16:56.659 --> 0:16:58.539 And I think that maybe there's a bit of a misconception. 0:16:58.899 --> 0:17:01.499 And I know everyone's parenting experience is different, but I 0:17:01.579 --> 0:17:03.459 do think that there's a bit of a misconception that're 0:17:03.459 --> 0:17:06.819