1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Rap, a weekly podcast covering women's sports news, 2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: taking a look around the grounds. This week, the Ossie 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: seven's women have done it again. Equal pay for the 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: US women's national soccer team and the Ossies go for 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: gold in snow sports. My name is Chloe Dalton. I'm 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: an Olympic gold medalist in rugby sevens and I play 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: AFLW for the GWS Giants. Usually my co host is Bez, 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: but she's currently living it up in a vent up 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: the North Coast with very shocking WiFi, so we've got 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: a very very special co host this week. Bes is 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: tough to replace, so we knew we had to bring 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: in the big guns. And this person actually has really 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: big guns. I don't know, I think they're as big 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: post retirement. We have the most successful Astralian female paralympian 15 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: of all time, Ellie Cole. Welcome to the Wrap. 16 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: Will you say Bes is living it up? I feel 17 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: like you and I are living it up in here. 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, we all guns. 19 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: I think yours. I think you're still definitely trump mine 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: that the triceps are definitely deflating. They've gone a bit 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: floppy post career. Self acceptance has been a true thing 22 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: in the last six months. 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 3: But I'm excited to be here. 24 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for doing it. I'm very excited 25 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 1: that you're coming in. I sent you a very last 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: minute text message this morning. You've you've rocked up. You're 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: good like that. 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: I will drop things fear. You know you've done some 29 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: incredible things for the Paralympic movements. So you know you're 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: one step away from me naming your first my first child. 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: After year, feeling in for a podcast is nothing cloy 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: Thank you very very much. 33 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: So we're going to chat a little bit about how 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: your retirement and everything has gone a little bit later 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: in the key story, but let's take a look around 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: the grounds in rugby yu union. It's a new season, 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: but the same story. For the Aussie seven's women. They 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: were too good for New Zealand in the final of 39 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: the Dubai Sevens. They got the win twenty six to nineteen. 40 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: Some incredible tries from the veteran the big She got 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: the big fend out Shanney Williams. She's strong, she's got 42 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: proper big guns. 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah she does. She puts us into shame. 44 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: I think her bicep is as big as my thigh. 45 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: I reckon, she's solid, she's so so assistent. 46 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: T yeah, absolutely faith Nathan, Maddi, Levi and co captain 47 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: Demi Hayes also crossed the line. We saw co captain 48 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: Charlotte Kaslick in her first comp after she was voted 49 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: World Rugby Seven's Player of the Year. So impressive and 50 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: very well deserved. Big Flex, Big Flex. She was instrumental 51 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: in the World Champs victory on Sunday. It was the 52 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: first leg in their defense of their season long World 53 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: Series title, and Madison Ashby won Player of the Final 54 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: after she secured two key turnovers. All up, they scored 55 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: third two tries across their six matches, with Levi going 56 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: over with eleven of those. That's almost six tries a game. 57 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 3: That's about to say, quick mass, how many chaws a game? 58 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: But you're on it? Did I do the mass before 59 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: the recording? Just in case I got it wrong? Maybe 60 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 3: I'm so happy you didn't ask me that on the spot. 61 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: Damn it, I'm gonna do that next time. It was 62 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: their third straight title at the very well known Dubai Sevens. 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: They cemented their status as Queens of the Desert and 64 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: Maddie Ashby said after the final. I think the most 65 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: pleasing thing is the consistency. We played a bit of 66 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: park footy out there, but we've prepared well in pre 67 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: season and I think, as our coaches say, we're the 68 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: Queens of the Desert. We thrive off the heat. So 69 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: for us it's just a golden win. The World Series 70 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: now heads to South Africa where the teams will do 71 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: battle in Cape Town this weekend. 72 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: Well, the Queens of the Desert, that's a great title. 73 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: It's good right, and we did in the lead up 74 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: to Tokyo. We did a lot in the heat chamber. 75 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: We'd go and take like the what bikes into this 76 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: each chamber that was at thirty seven degrees or something, 77 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: So I imagine they're very well prepared for the heat. 78 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: Those girls couldn't do it all right, Well, let's move 79 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: on to athletics. In athletics, it was a massive day 80 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: in Australian marathon history on Sunday when both the men's 81 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: and women's Aussie records tumbled. Shanei Diver wiped a minute 82 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: off Benita Johnson's sixteen year old women's national marathon record, 83 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: just hours after Brett Robertson smashed the one and only 84 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: Rob Decastella's national men's best. 85 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: Which stood for thirty six years. That's massive, I know 86 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: that is massive. What year was it? Thirty six years ago? 87 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: Glowey quick mass? 88 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: Oh what are we in twenty twenty two, ninety two 89 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: eighty eight? 90 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 3: And what happened in ninety eighty eight? That's too much trivia. Yeah, 91 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 3: let's keep going. 92 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: Diver ran a superb time of two hours, twenty one 93 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: minutes thirty four seconds in Valencia, Spain, and was a 94 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: metronome throughout the entire duration of the forty two point 95 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: two kilometer race, averaging close This is quick mass to 96 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: three minutes twenty one per kilometers for the entirety of 97 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: the race. 98 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: That's a quick pace. 99 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: That's like a Swiss watch. 100 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: Consistent, beautiful, very consistent, Diver said after the race. I 101 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: wanted this for so long, and I wasn't sure if 102 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 2: I was good enough to get it. I've had a 103 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: few goes at it now. This was my third crack 104 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: at it, and every time I line up it takes 105 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: a lot. Things have to really fall into place. So 106 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: I'm beyond delighted that it's happened. 107 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: That's beautiful. 108 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: It's really cool. 109 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: I'm also delighted it's happened, and I think the whole 110 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: of Australia is delighted that it's happened. Benita is Australia's 111 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: best runner of all time, so it's an honor to 112 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: now have this record. 113 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: I couldn't be proud of today. 114 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: That's really special. 115 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: It is really special. 116 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: The training partners had an absolute day out in Spain 117 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: and Diver said after the race that she actually didn't 118 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: know if I wanted to know if QUO is confusing, okay, 119 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: very busy, quade. 120 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: So I think what happened is Diver woke up in 121 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 1: the morning and Brett Robinson must have been running earlier 122 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: than her, and I think she woke up because their 123 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: training partners. She woke up and she didn't want to 124 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: know whether or not She was nervous for him about 125 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: whether he'd done the record or not, so she didn't check. 126 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: And then it was when she was on the way 127 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: to the line that someone told her and she was 128 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: absolutely stoked, and I reckon that spurred her on then 129 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: go and break the record. 130 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: Too, Okay. 131 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: So that quote that she didn't want to know if 132 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: he knew if he got it when I woke up 133 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: this morning, so I didn't look at my social media 134 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 2: or anything. But as we were walking over to the 135 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: start line, someone asked if I had heard about his record, 136 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: and I got a rash of excitement. I was so 137 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: happy to know it before I started running. 138 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: It all makes sense now. 139 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: It all makes sense now. Very cryptic, but it was 140 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: a bit of context. 141 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: Not so much in basketball in the WNBL on the weekend, 142 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: a top of the table clash between the Bendigo Spirit 143 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: and Townsville Fire unfortunately made news for all the wrong reasons. 144 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: So rain WNBL MVP Anlie Meylee, who we charted to 145 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: on the Wrap last week, claimed that she was on 146 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: the end of misogynistic verbal abuse by fans during the 147 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: club's sixty eight to sixty six win in Townsville on 148 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: Friday night. In a social media post, Opal's representative and 149 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: Benego player Melee called out the drunk men for their 150 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: allegedly disgusting behavior in Townsville. She nailed the go ahead 151 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: three pointer with a minute to go, which sealed the 152 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: win for the Spirit. They're four and zero and on 153 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: top of the WNBL ladder. She's been really open about 154 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: her battle with depression, anxiety and panic attacks, and her 155 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: Instagram message said, Hey, Townsville Fire, having a group of 156 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: drunk men at your game abusing a player with mental 157 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: health issues is bad form. 158 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: Be better. 159 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: It's not passionate fans, it's misogynistic, it's abuse and it's disgusting, 160 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: pretty full on. Have you ever copped anything like that 161 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: in your career? 162 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: No, I haven't, But you know, seeing someone like Melee's 163 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: stand up for this is brilliant, particularly then landing a 164 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: three pointer after just goes to show her skill. But 165 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: nobody should go out and represent their hometown or their 166 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: country and have people in the crowds belittling them for 167 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: what they're doing. So happy that she took the win 168 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: and also very happy that she took a stand. 169 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 170 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely, So they're going to investigate it. Basketball Australia's Integrity 171 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: Unit is looking into it, and Townsville general manager at 172 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: San Pasco so the club is waiting for more information 173 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: and what was said to Meilee. She had twelve points 174 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: and sixteen rebounds, and Townsville coach Shannon Seabomb had some 175 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: high praise for her rebounding after the match. He said 176 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: she's honestly the best offensive rebounder that I've ever seen 177 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: in my life, and that team is a phenomenal rebounding team. 178 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: They had sixteen boards and had one point per possession 179 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: on those rebounds. If we cut that in half, we 180 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: win the game by six. Every little one of those 181 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: plays counts. It was a really heated match because we 182 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: knew that that top of the table clash. Neither team 183 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: had been defeated yet, so it was definitely the one 184 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: to watch. 185 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: Oh, snow sports not my domain, I must say, alrighty 186 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: in snow sports, it's been a huge opening weekend in 187 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: the snow in Ruka, Finland, with Dannielle Scott claiming gold 188 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: in the World Cup Aerials competition, Jakara Anthony getting it 189 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: done in the moguls final, and Josie Baff adding to 190 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 2: the gold rush in the snowboard cross big final. Scott 191 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 2: claimed her fourth World Cup Final win of her career 192 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: when she landed a near perfect. 193 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: Back double full full in the process scored ninety nine 194 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: point zero five points. 195 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: Chloe, I think you would get out of bed doing 196 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: a back double full full. 197 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: You just seem like that kind of girl. 198 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: I kind of just roll I would definitely add a 199 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: twist in back. 200 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: Just the twist, just the twist about all I know. 201 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: Nineteen year old Baf was stoked with her first global 202 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: victory in the snowboard cross in just her eighth World 203 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: Cup race. The twenty twenty Youth Olympic champion didn't make 204 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: the quarter finals at the Winter Games Beijing earlier this year, 205 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: but was unstoppable in Ruka and was beside herself with 206 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: a victory. And to round out the exceptional start to 207 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: the season twenty twenty two Olympic gold medalists, the one 208 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: and only Jakara Anthony was again without Pierre over the moguls, 209 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: registering a huge score of eighty one point sixty nine, 210 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: more than three points ahead of second place. 211 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: That is slaying it, isn't it. 212 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: Did you watch her in Beijing earlier this year, her 213 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: going down the moguls, she was like, it didn't really 214 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: look like anyone was ever going to come close to her. 215 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: She was almost robotic in how good she was at 216 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: the moguls. 217 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 3: I think it takes that to win the gold medal. Yeah, 218 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: no one coming anywhere here, you know, wouldn't you? And 219 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: she's done it again. 220 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: Well, I haven't won a race in six years, but 221 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: let's just remember Ellie twenty fifteen prior. 222 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, great, Anthony knows she is the one to beat. 223 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: After her exceptional performances last season, she said, I've definitely 224 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: got a bit of a target on my back now 225 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 2: and I think there's going to be a lot more 226 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: of learning experiences this season, but I'm really. 227 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: Looking forward to it. 228 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: How did you find being having the target on your 229 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: back after Rio? 230 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a big one. And even in the 231 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: lead up to Rio, so we won the World Champs 232 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: that year and so they were kind of talking about 233 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: it in the lead up to that, kind of this 234 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: pressure on the fact that we hadn't won a gold 235 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: medal in a team sport since two thousand and four. 236 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: And for us, we made a very conscious decision as 237 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: a group that we wanted to embrace the pressure because 238 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: it's a lot, right, Yeah, And we actually decided to 239 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: adopt the language. Like we were just always talking about 240 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: the gold medal every day. We'd rate our training based 241 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: on where there was good enough to win a gold medal. 242 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: So I think for us it was like if we 243 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: talk about it and use the language all the time, 244 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: it almost becomes second nature and so that when you 245 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: hear other people say it, it doesn't sound as daunting. 246 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: Now that makes sense, and I suppose it totally becomes 247 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: part of your everyday routine. 248 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 3: Then gold medal routine. 249 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the car has absolutely nailed it with the pressure 250 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: winning the Olympics and then coming back and winning again. 251 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: She further says, to kick off the season with the 252 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: win and the yellow bib is pretty massive. You come 253 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: into the first event and you don't know what everyone's 254 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: been doing since the last season, so it's exciting to 255 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: come out and see what everyone can do and to 256 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: show off what you're capable of. 257 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: And she is capable of winning, as she did it again. 258 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: In soccer, all eyes have been on the men's Football 259 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: World Cup in Qatar, and a big shout out to 260 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: the soccer USE. They were very impressive. I think they 261 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: proved a lot of people wrong that doubted them. They 262 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: fell too one to Argentina in the round of sixteen, 263 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: but had some pretty impressive performances throughout. So shout out 264 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: to the soccer US. In some women's sports news, which 265 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: is you know, WI, some pretty cool news that came 266 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: out and caused a bit of a commotion on our 267 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: social media, I would say, So what happened was the 268 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: u SA women's team are going to share in the 269 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: US men's team prize money. So we've spoken about in 270 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: the past on the wrap the equal pay agreement that 271 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: US Soccer broke it when they signed the new Collective 272 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: Bargaineer Agreement, but this is the first time we've seen 273 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: it in practice. So pretty much they they went through 274 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: a legal battle and what the women said is we 275 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: actually generate more revenue than the men, but for many 276 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: years we've been receiving less funds. It should be an 277 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: equal pay agreement, and they actually won that case in 278 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: federal court. So that in practice means that when the 279 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: US men won thirteen million dollars in prize money for 280 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: reaching the final sixteen in Qatar before they lost three 281 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: to one to the Netherlands, that amount will now be 282 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: shared equally between the men's and women's teams, less ten percent, 283 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: which will go to the US Soccer Federation. So the 284 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: crazy part of it all is that the six point 285 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: five million dollars going to the women's team is more 286 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: than they won in total for their last two World 287 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: Cup victories. The US women's national team earned four million 288 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: dollars for winning the twenty nineteen World Cup and two 289 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: million dollars for their title in twenty fifteen. 290 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: That's huge news, huge, And you know what, it's going 291 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: to be really interesting to see how the US women's team, 292 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: who are already so dominant, are going to be over 293 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: the next few World Cups with such a difference in 294 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: pay between the countries. Yes, and see how that affects 295 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: the game. 296 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great question. 297 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: So I think it's time for Australia to do the 298 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 3: same thing. 299 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, well, and it's interesting you say that because 300 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: we know that the Women's World Cup is going to 301 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: be played in Australia and New Zealand next year and 302 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: you're part of that. You're at the draw. 303 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: I am so excited. 304 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: So I am a Beefer Women's World Cup Ambassador amazing, 305 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: which is great. I don't quite know what that means yet, 306 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: but also going to be attending with op the sport, 307 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: so very exciting. I've got a lot to learn. I 308 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: think everyone's telling me to watch Ted Lasso. 309 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: Oh have you not done it yet? Not yet? 310 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: Oh he's a beautiful man. I think you'll like him 311 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: a lot. I reckon, you've got a bit of ted 312 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: Lasso about you? 313 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: What does that mean? 314 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: He's just a lovely, lovely man who loves life, okay, 315 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: and I feel like I would put you in a 316 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: similar category as long as that was a compliment. That's 317 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: definitely definitely a compliment. 318 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: Am I going on with the more soca? 319 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: Oh? 320 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: Wait? 321 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: No, sorry, I should be running the show here, I'm 322 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: getting distracted by ted Lasso. So in the lead up 323 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: to the World Cup that's going to be on home 324 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: soil for US, we don't yet know what the prize 325 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: money is going to be. I think there's probably going 326 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: to be a fair bit of pressure on FIFA to 327 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: step up here and announce announce an amount that's except 328 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: looking at the incredible growth that we've seen in women's football, 329 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: so FIFA president Gianni Infantino who said he wants to 330 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: at least double the pot from twenty nineteen. However, that 331 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: would still only take the total pool to sixty million dollars, 332 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: which is not even close to the four hundred and 333 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: forty million dollars handed out to men's teams in Qatar. 334 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: Walker Zimmermann, who's part of the US squad in Qatar, 335 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: and member of the US men's Players Union, said in 336 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: May that he was happy with the deal. There are 337 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: tough conversations, but at the end of the day, it's 338 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: the right thing to do. It's something that. 339 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: The US women's team deserve. 340 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: It's something that they have fought for so hard, and 341 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: to be honest, sometimes it does feel like we have 342 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: just kind of come alongside them and had been a 343 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: little late. The US men's national team broke viewer numbers 344 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: when they faced England last week, when twenty million people 345 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: tuned in across all platforms. That number, however, was still 346 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: a way off the all time viewing record for a 347 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: soccer match on a single network in the US, which 348 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: stands at twenty five point four million for the Women's 349 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: World Cup final in twenty fifteen. 350 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: That is outrageous that there is still such a price 351 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: disparity with those statistics. 352 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: And what I love about these is it's broadcast and 353 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: pay that the women's teams are bringing in more than 354 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: the men, and so it's it doesn't the pay disparity 355 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: no longer makes sense, right, There's not actually evidence saying 356 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: that the. 357 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: Women shouldn't be paid equally to the men. 358 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: They're actually bringing more than what the better. 359 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: So I wonder what the decision is behind the decision. 360 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: That's a deep question. 361 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: But you know what this I think in twenty years 362 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: time this is going to be a classic case study 363 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: at university and hopefully you know something that shocks the 364 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: students that thinking that this happened once upon a time. 365 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, very true. 366 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 2: More in soccer, in the A League Women's City Derby, 367 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: it was all Remy Seemson. Seamson is recently back from 368 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: a stint in Sweden and was outstanding for Sydney FC 369 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 2: against the Western Sydney Wanderers. The sky Blues went down 370 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 2: a player after captain Natalie Tobin was sent off just 371 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 2: before halftime, but thanks to a moment of brilliance from Semson, 372 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 2: Sydney FC managed to score a one zero victory. Seamsen's 373 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: goal bought her equal with fellow Matilda's striker Caitlin Ford 374 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 2: Legend as the top derby goal scorer with six. 375 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: That's incredible. 376 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 377 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: I couldn't even get the ball once. 378 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: How are you at soccer? 379 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 3: Terrible one. I'm right handed and left footed, so how 380 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: do you think? 381 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: Go hard combo? 382 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 3: It's a high combo she said after the match. I'm 383 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 3: so happy to be home. 384 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: I think we were a bit unlucky not to get 385 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: a few more goals today, but it was a good fight. 386 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: To get a goal today against the Wanderers felt so nice. 387 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: And the new kids on the block just keep winning. 388 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 2: Western United emerged from the jaws of defeat to topple 389 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: Adelaide United two to one in a thrilling top of 390 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 2: the table clash. United left it extremely late, with Sydney 391 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 2: Cummings equalizing in the ninety first minute before Emma rovers 392 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: brilliant strike snatched all three points in the seventh minute 393 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 2: of stoppage time. The win secured Western United's place on 394 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: top of the table. 395 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: They're so impressive. They're a brand new team in the 396 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: competition and they're sitting on top of the table. 397 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: How do they do it? How do they do it? 398 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I reckon they've I reckon. 399 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: They've built themselves a pretty good list. 400 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 3: Someone needs to make a documentary on them. 401 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: Oh they should have fallen. I hope someone's already following 402 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: them from the beginning. In surfing, Sophie McCulloch went into 403 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: the final World Surf leag qualification event in Hawaii, needing 404 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: a win to qualify for the World to the next season, 405 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: and she got the job done. It was a tense 406 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: final against local Betty lou Secura Johnson, but she held 407 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: on for a fifteen to fourteen point three pin four victory. 408 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: That win secured fifth place in the qualifying series and 409 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: means she will join fellow OSSI's Molly Picklem and Macy Callahan, 410 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: who finished second and third overall. The World too Up 411 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: begins in January at the prestigious Billibong Pipeline event. McCulloch 412 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: said after her win she wasn't totally sure of what 413 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: was required before the event. It means so much to 414 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: me and I actually had a lot of self doubt 415 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: heading into this event. Someone told me it's not over, 416 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: so I didn't know exactly what needed to happen and 417 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: just knew and needed to give it my all. It 418 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: added some nerves, but I'm really proud of my ability 419 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: to regroup and just have the same intention. Question how 420 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: much would you have to get paid to surf pipeline? 421 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: The question should be how much would I be paid 422 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: to surf at all? 423 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: Just on the whitewash? 424 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 3: Just in the kitties paddling for a thank you. I'm 425 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 3: actually trying out some surfing on the weekend. I've had 426 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 3: a new surf surfing prosthetic made. 427 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: And it's going to be the most frustrating thing in 428 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 2: the world, because of course I like to be good 429 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 2: at everything straight away, and surfing is really hard. 430 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: And then surfing on one leg, I can imagine. 431 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: Wait, so how does a surfing prosthetic work. 432 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 2: It only bends to a certain amount of degrees, don't 433 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: ask you what. And it's kind of like not made 434 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: for general day to day walking, so it's kind of 435 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: just looks like a little pole with a flappy. 436 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: Foot at the end. 437 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: Great, does the flappy foot grip enough onto the board? 438 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:54,239 Speaker 3: Ask me after the weekend? Okay, great, Great, Let's move 439 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: on to golf. 440 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: The dual gender Australian Open was played over the weekend 441 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: in Victoria, and African Ashley boo High held her nerve 442 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 2: over a tense back nine holes to secure the victory 443 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 2: with a score of twelve underpath. It has been an 444 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: outstanding year for boo High, who added the Australia Open 445 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: to her British Open triumph earlier this year. Australia's latest 446 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: addition to the LPGA. Grace Kim played her way into 447 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 2: a share of the lead heading down the eighteenth, but 448 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: unfortunately found a fairway bunker. 449 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 3: Doesn't that suck when that happens. 450 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: The bunker really gets y'all, he really gets. 451 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, it got her. That put an end to 452 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: her title hopes. Ozzie's Hannah Green ten under, Grace Kim 453 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: nine undermnjy Lee eight under, and Stephanie Kiriaku five under 454 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: all cracked the top ten. 455 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 3: Go girls Yeah. 456 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: Boo High was emotional after her final round and said, 457 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 2: it's the cherry on top. It's pretty cool that my 458 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: name is on this trophy as well as the British 459 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: Open with a lot of greats. 460 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: What a great year for her. 461 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, She's been awesome. Let's take a look at 462 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: the key story. The key story this week is you 463 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: Ellie Cole. What a segue You had your first swim 464 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: today post retirement. Well, you've done a bit of a 465 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 1: John Farnham. I feel like you had a couple of 466 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: I feel like you had your retirement and then you 467 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: kind of were back and then you're not. 468 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: Okay, let's just clear some things up here. I retired 469 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 2: in Tokyo, and then Kate and Bronti Campbell were both like, 470 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: let's go to the Komap Games. Wouldn't that be so 471 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: much fun? And so I got back in and then 472 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 2: Kate went to Europe for like a year or something. 473 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, she was gone for a long time. 474 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 3: She's gone for a very long time. 475 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 2: And then Bronti decided that she wanted to start working, 476 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: and so I was just left in Birmingham on my own, 477 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: wasn't I? And so that was my first comeback. And 478 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: then my second comeback was due on the pool because 479 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 2: they had a mixed paratable board relay and I wasn't 480 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 2: going to retire before that. It was only an extra 481 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: six weeks of training. So yes, I did retire three times, 482 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: but for good reasons. 483 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: Absolutely. How was your swim today? Your first swim since 484 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: post proper retirement? 485 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 3: Pretty shocking, to be honest. Usually there's an elite athlete. 486 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 2: If I spent about two weeks out of the water, 487 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: I would feel quite funny. 488 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 3: And it's been about five or. 489 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: Six months, So like, my ankles stiffened up and my 490 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: shoulders are stiffening up, and I guess my body's morphing 491 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: into a normal body. It's not quite as flexible as 492 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: it once was. And also I don't know how to 493 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: swim straight anymore. 494 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 3: How has the transition been. 495 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: There's so much talk around retirement in the fact that 496 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: athletes attach so much of their identity to their sport. 497 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: Has it been a positive or a negative experience for you? 498 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: So far? 499 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: It's been very positive, but I'm aware that most athletes 500 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: don't have a positive experience. But you know, it was 501 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 2: really interesting when I was at the Women's World Cup draw. 502 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: I was speaking to one of the US soccer players actually, 503 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: and she said that. 504 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: Her theory is that. 505 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: The way that you deal with retirement depends on what 506 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: you valued when you're an athlete, Okay, and so her 507 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: theory is that, you know, if you valued a lot 508 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 2: of your self worth on if you want or not, 509 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: then you're probably going to struggle in retirement. As a paralympian, 510 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: towards the back end of my career, I did want 511 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: to win, but I'm more valued like the social impact 512 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: that being a paralympian had, and I can still kind 513 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: of do that outside of the sport, and so I'm 514 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: not struggling with my retirement at all, which is great, 515 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: but I could be in the future. I'm just keeping 516 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 2: my eye at That's also the other thing. You know, 517 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: people are much more open at talking about how they're 518 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 2: feeling with retirement or feeling with a transition, and so 519 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 2: I think you can look out for the markers a 520 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: bit earlier than what you would have maybe a decade ago. 521 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. I really like this idea around what you value 522 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: and that idea of finding your purpose, because I think 523 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: for me, the Female Athlete Project has been kind of 524 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: my parallel thing where I've been like, I get my 525 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: identity from sport, and I work really hard, and like you, 526 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: I want to win, but I get so much purpose 527 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: and fulfillment from doing the Female Athlete Project stuff that 528 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: I hope when I get to that point of retirement 529 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: that it makes that transition a bit more seamless, because 530 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: it's it's not your sole identity, right. 531 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think so many organizations are realizing how 532 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: important that wellbeing space is and finding who you are 533 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: outside of the sport. And now that I've actually transitioned 534 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: to the other side, I can't. 535 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 3: Emphasize how important that is. 536 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: So even though I'm retired now and probably will never 537 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 2: swim again after today. 538 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 3: Discard I do. 539 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: I do want to keep my eye out for the 540 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: athletes that are still in the sport and you know, 541 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 2: still mentoring and everything, making sure that they're. 542 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: Doing the right things. 543 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: And what does your life look like now? 544 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm sleeping in it's nice. I also have insomnia. I 545 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: was training six hours a day anymore. Oh, so you've 546 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: got kind of energy and you're just lying there. I 547 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: feel like I don't need to sleep at all. Wow, 548 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 2: which is crazy. And I used to love sleeping when 549 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 2: I was a swimmer, Like it was honestly like my 550 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: top three favorite things to do. 551 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: And now I hate it. 552 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: And I actually was laying in bed last week and 553 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: I had to google what it means if you hate 554 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 2: going to sleep, and I was on Reddit and I 555 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: was like, you're depressed or you have anxiety, and I 556 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 2: was like, no, Like, I love my life so much 557 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 2: that I don't want to go to sleep because I 558 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: feel like I'm wasting that time. And so that's been 559 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: really interesting. 560 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 1: Over the weekend, it was International Day of People with 561 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: a Disability. You had a bit of an incident on 562 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: your way in here that you were raging about as 563 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,479 Speaker 1: you came inside. Actually, yes, do you want to tell 564 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: us about that? 565 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: Well, you know, not many people see me rage, and 566 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: it takes a lot for me do become angry or 567 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: upstt over something. But like we've just I've already started book. 568 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: We've just had International Day People with the Disability, which 569 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: is a wonderful day where people are able to I expose, 570 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: assess what they're doing in their own lives to help 571 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 2: make the lives of others easier. Now, I was trying 572 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 2: to find a car park to come up to help 573 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: you out today and there were two mobility parking spots 574 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: and two people were sitting in them, just in like 575 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: a waiting bay. And so I've seen that all day 576 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: in Sydney today. I've seen it on six separate occasions, 577 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: people using mobility parking as a waiting bay. 578 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 3: And I kind of had had enough. 579 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 2: It was the end of the day, and so I 580 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: just politely, very politely knocked on their window and asked 581 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 2: if they had to pass, because you don't want to 582 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: assume yes. And they were really embarrassed, as they should 583 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: have been, and they left the building. 584 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 3: When I say building, the car pup. 585 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: But it just made me realize like the decisions that 586 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: we make, you know, yeah, sure we might be stopping 587 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 2: to pick up a friend or something, but there's somebody 588 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: out there who has a significant impairment that needs that spot, 589 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: and you're being selfish and using it as a waiting bay. 590 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, I got pretty mad. 591 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: What's next for Ellie Cole? Have you set yourself any 592 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: ambitious goals post swimming or are you kind of just 593 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: rolling with it? 594 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: I was thinking of doing like adaptive crosspit, but then 595 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: I got on TikTok and there's this chick with one 596 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 2: leg who like, I don't even know what's course, like 597 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: a snatch thing yep, like seventy kilos or something on one. 598 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 3: Leg, and I was like, is that the video that 599 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: went viral? She does? 600 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: She does it a few times. 601 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: It's crazy, Like if I drop something on the floor 602 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: and try to pick it up, I basically fall over. 603 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: I was thinking, Okay, I got a bit of work 604 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: to do, and then I had to look at a 605 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: bit of wheelchair tennis because I was like, if Dylan ol' 606 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: clot can do that, I hear yes. And then I 607 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: had a look at whom my competitor would be, and 608 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: I was like, no, I can't do that either, so 609 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: just kind of looking at different sports. 610 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 3: I like it. 611 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: I like it. 612 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 3: It's not tennis and it's not crosspit. 613 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: But what's really exciting in Paris is that we will 614 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: have para rock climbing for the first time. And I 615 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: love rock climbings. So you want to meet me at 616 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: the wall next week? 617 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: Chloe? 618 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, let's go rock climbing. That will be fine. 619 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 3: If anyone wants to join us, hit us up on 620 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 3: t FAP. Yeah. 621 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: I like that. Looking you go, you're the best co host. 622 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at what to watch. It's me 623 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: actually not you. It might be the off season for 624 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: rugby league, but you can still get your fix via 625 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: a new ABC doco called A League of her Own. 626 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: The film follows the twenty twenty one Queensland State of 627 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: Origin women's team in their quest to win the trophy 628 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: from New South Wales up the Mighty Blues. 629 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 3: Who do you support either? I just love them both. 630 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine as long as it's not Queensland. You 631 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: can catch the inspirational story on ABC iView now. 632 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: Round five of wnbl features a huge Wednesday night match 633 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: between the Melbourne Boomers and the Townsville Fire, who are 634 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: second and third on the ladder respectively. 635 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 3: I love a playoff like this. 636 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: Tip Off at the State Basketball Center is six thirty 637 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: pm and you can watch live on ESPN. 638 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: The Elisa Healy led Ossie cricket team kick off their 639 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: T twenty International series against India. 640 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: In Mumbai on Saturday morning. 641 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: The match starts at twelve thirty a m a e 642 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: d T and you can watch live on Foxtel KO 643 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: and the Seven Network. 644 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: In the A League Women, on Saturday, second placed Melbourne 645 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: City host the Newcastle Jets at Casey Fields. The match 646 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: kicks off at three pm and if you can't get 647 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: out there to watch in person, you can see it 648 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: live and free on the ten play app. 649 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: And that's the wrap. Amazing, Ellie Cole. I'm so impressed 650 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: by you. 651 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: Do I get this te fat mug. 652 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm going to give that munk to 653 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: you for your time. You were exceptional. Thank you. In 654 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: a few days Happy birthday, I've brought your used mug 655 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: to say. 656 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: Now that I'm retired, maybe you can fill it with 657 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 3: something stronger. 658 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, we'll make that happen. Thank you so 659 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: much again for rocking up and getting it done. 660 00:30:59,160 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: You have a great time. 661 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: You were great. And a big thanks to Bez who 662 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: couldn't be here but she's still Actually she drove in 663 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: her van to find Wi Fi so that she could 664 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: still get the research done for today's episode. 665 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: We're thinking of you best. 666 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeap having a hard time drinking beers up the coast. 667 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: I'm sure she's having care of the time. 668 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: And a massive thank you to the amazing team at 669 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: Workplace Law who hosted us today in the champions Room. 670 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 3: See you next week, See you next week.