Speaker 1: Life on Cut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose
Speaker 1: lands were never seated. We pay our respects to their
Speaker 1: elders past and present.
Speaker 2: Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was
Speaker 2: recorded on de rug Wallamata Land.
Speaker 3: Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life
Speaker 3: on Cut. I'm Laura and Brittany.
Speaker 4: Things are like very chaotic here in the studio today,
Speaker 4: hy Laura, because never before have both of us decided
Speaker 4: to bring our animals.
Speaker 3: And on the same day you copied me.
Speaker 1: I had to bring Delilah today because she has to
Speaker 1: go to an appointment. So I was like, I need
Speaker 1: to bring it to go and then so Laura's like, well,
Speaker 1: then I want to bring Buster.
Speaker 3: And now there's two dogs here. One dog was fine,
Speaker 3: but two dogs.
Speaker 1: They're just looking at each other from across the room.
Speaker 3: Want him to like rumble.
Speaker 2: Buster wants to hump Delilah to be okay, to be fair.
Speaker 4: Delilah's good looking, she's a pretty dog. You can't blame
Speaker 4: the guy. No, he normally Buster. And I'm sorry to
Speaker 4: say this, Honey. I know you can hear me right now,
Speaker 4: and I don't want you to feel shamed. But Buster
Speaker 4: is a humper, which is very very very funny to
Speaker 4: see because he only got everything.
Speaker 2: He's only got three legs. So he tries to mount
Speaker 2: things and he slips off the side. But he doesn't
Speaker 2: try and hump Delilah, So she should be offend. Maybe
Speaker 2: he knows Delilah's out of his leave.
Speaker 3: No, he did try. Remember they've gone to a fight once.
Speaker 1: He tried it on a once and she snapped at
Speaker 1: him and he was like, yep, I'll read the roof.
Speaker 4: And he's like, all right, my advances are not wanted.
Speaker 4: He good, you should respect women more. He's literally passed
Speaker 4: now I know he's so old. Now, okay, you were
Speaker 4: bringing Delilah into the studio, and I didn't want Bust
Speaker 4: to be at home knowing that he was the one
Speaker 4: that just got left behind. Could you imagine what that
Speaker 4: would do to his side? He doesn't know, he does
Speaker 4: he doesn't. No, he does not know that Delilah. Okay,
Speaker 4: that's enough. Anyway, we're here now, we have dogs in
Speaker 4: the studio. It's all happening today. I can I say no,
Speaker 4: don't don't.
Speaker 3: Say it, don't keep it to yourself, don't be offendant. Girls,
Speaker 3: what happened Produca and Laura.
Speaker 1: I got so many messages saying the best part about
Speaker 1: the episode the other day was Delilah's mum chat so
Speaker 1: just saying they were like, we're pro. They were like,
Speaker 1: we're pro Delilah's momth you know how I was like
Speaker 1: the difference between us you guys were to rape.
Speaker 3: I was looking at p of Dla's mom. Everyone's like,
Speaker 3: I'm your team. I would have been at home looking
Speaker 3: at Dalilah's mouth. I love he would you say?
Speaker 4: I got so many actually four five, maybe I didn't care.
Speaker 3: I lost count after three I had after no, there
Speaker 3: was so many.
Speaker 4: I couldn't even make my way through all of the
Speaker 4: messages around Delilah's albino mon chat.
Speaker 1: I had RSI and my thumb from scrolling the messages.
Speaker 2: Well, we did speak about this on Thursday, or maybe
Speaker 2: it was Tuesday, I can't remember, but we spoke about
Speaker 2: a woman who had texted an eyebrow beautician to say
Speaker 2: and to ask the eyebra beautician to go out of
Speaker 2: her way to give her friend the worst eyebrows that
Speaker 2: she could ever possibly imagine.
Speaker 1: She literally texted the beautitian and was like, yo, this
Speaker 1: is my girlfriend fuck her up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the reason why she did that is because
Speaker 2: she found out that her friend was sleeping with her boyfriend,
Speaker 2: which you know, drama, drama, drama. The beautician didn't do it,
Speaker 2: but the post is going viral across social media. So
Speaker 2: we gave you guys the call out because we wanted
Speaker 2: to know what is the most heinous revenge plot twist
Speaker 2: that you have ever enacted on an X?
Speaker 4: What did you do to get back to them? And
Speaker 4: at the start, oh, look, at the start, they.
Speaker 3: Were pretty pg.
Speaker 4: They were pretty pretty safe, I would have said, But
Speaker 4: then we did another call out and holy dick, you
Speaker 4: came to the party.
Speaker 1: I would like to start this conversation by saying, we
Speaker 1: no way encouraged this sort of behavior. About to laugh
Speaker 1: at it, but we are not telling anybody to take
Speaker 1: this and go and do anything with it.
Speaker 3: We may want to know endorsing it.
Speaker 4: But also some of this stuff is probably like borderline illegal,
Speaker 4: So we are.
Speaker 1: Laura, are you broke into your ex's house and stole
Speaker 1: the past one and forty signature?
Speaker 3: That's illegal? Not borderline illegal?
Speaker 2: I agree, but it was ten years ago, and come.
Speaker 1: And the statue of libertation says that ten years, you
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so I'm gonna kick it off.
Speaker 2: I went into his apartment after I found out that
Speaker 2: he had been cheating on me for six months. I
Speaker 2: drenched his carpet and then I covered it in grass mix.
Speaker 2: He was away on a work trip for three and
Speaker 2: a half weeks, so I turned that central heating up
Speaker 2: to thirty degrees.
Speaker 3: And I let the bad boy flourish.
Speaker 2: Imagine seeding the lounge room carpet of an apartment.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't you get off on that.
Speaker 4: I would come home and I'd.
Speaker 3: Like more room to propagate.
Speaker 4: Chokes on you my indoor garden. Finally living out all
Speaker 4: my best dreams. Okay, I've got one.
Speaker 1: I went to the pet store and bought frozen rats
Speaker 1: and put them in his car.
Speaker 3: That was my favorite. There was more context to this.
Speaker 4: He was away, discussed it away for a long time
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 3: This is what I'm learning from these.
Speaker 2: If you're ever going to enact to revenge, you've got
Speaker 2: to do it when they've gone away on a work trip,
Speaker 2: and you can really let that sort of stuff just
Speaker 2: simmer in the sun or the heat. Okay, I drove
Speaker 2: his car to the edge of our property, and I
Speaker 2: covered it in shit, like literal cow manure from top
Speaker 2: to bottom.
Speaker 3: You get your car.
Speaker 1: That's not the worst for me. You get your cars
Speaker 1: shit on my birds and stuff all the time.
Speaker 4: She hovered it in like a thick layer of manure
Speaker 4: that you would put in the garden.
Speaker 1: Do something that's not gonna gross you out too. You've
Speaker 1: got to put your hands in manure and like massage
Speaker 1: you into someone's car.
Speaker 2: Maybe they live on a farm. Okay, this one is great.
Speaker 2: This one I thought was brilliant, especially coming from the
Speaker 2: plant person. So this woman, her boyfriend had a beautifully
Speaker 2: manicured front garden, like he was really into his landscaping.
Speaker 2: He'd only recently had the landscaping in the front of
Speaker 2: the house finished. And she went to the pet store
Speaker 2: and she bought you know when you go and you
Speaker 2: get like the little pebbles for a fish tank. She
Speaker 2: bought like brightly colored kilograms of the brightly colored little
Speaker 2: tiny pebbles that you put at the bottom of a
Speaker 2: fish tank, and she scattered it all throughout his car.
Speaker 3: What the pink like pink and purple and green.
Speaker 4: You would never ever ever be able to get that, like,
Speaker 4: hand picked that out of your fucking garden. I came
Speaker 4: finding it for years. I got this, I got this
Speaker 4: garden one come in. My ex loved to garden. It
Speaker 4: was his pride and joy.
Speaker 1: So after we broke up because he cheated on me,
Speaker 1: I went to his house dug some of his great
Speaker 1: plants out so that I could take them home myself
Speaker 1: and poison and the rest.
Speaker 3: That's really me. I felt bad because they were beautiful,
Speaker 3: but fuck you, it's really.
Speaker 2: I unpicked at the buttons on his work shirt just
Speaker 2: enough so that they would pop off while he was
Speaker 2: wearing them. But she did it to every single one
Speaker 2: of his button up shirts. Got holes in the crutch
Speaker 2: of all his suits. My husband was so lazy.
Speaker 3: I know there is no way he would have noticed
Speaker 3: before putting them. On the day.
Speaker 4: Of a Noveda wedder, I threw my ex's rolex in
Speaker 4: the yarraw.
Speaker 3: That's illegal, but also that's also brutal fair.
Speaker 2: I put hair remover a cream in his shampoo and
Speaker 2: then look, it goes a bit further than that. She
Speaker 2: put hair remove a cream in his shampoo and then
Speaker 2: she urinated in his mouth wash, which I am not condoning.
Speaker 3: That's too far.
Speaker 1: That's you're in a stair ale though. No mouthwash, yes,
Speaker 1: so imagine if they're both together. You had to clean
Speaker 1: his mouth in history. That's that is so illegal, covered
Speaker 1: his car in glitter and lube.
Speaker 3: A that's really funny.
Speaker 4: I opened a can of tuna and I hit it
Speaker 4: under his bed.
Speaker 1: Right, you know what I was thinking when I was
Speaker 1: reading these because I'm not a revenger, right Like, we
Speaker 1: know that my ex had a double life, and all
Speaker 1: I did was take his toilet.
Speaker 3: Pap, you need to be more spiteful.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't hope. I don't have to ever be
Speaker 4: spiteful again. Friends an angel.
Speaker 1: But what I was thinking I would do is, and
Speaker 1: I took this idea from all of you guys, instead
Speaker 1: of just putting something in the cur like fish in
Speaker 1: the curtains or tuna under the bed, I would take
Speaker 1: the sheets off the bed and then cut on the
Speaker 1: underside of the mattress. Cut in a hole, put all
Speaker 1: of whatever you want in there, because no one is
Speaker 1: ever going to look for a hole in the mattress.
Speaker 1: So all of the dead animals or the food goes
Speaker 1: into the mattress.
Speaker 3: If you wanted to.
Speaker 1: You could sew that scene back up, put the sheets
Speaker 1: back on, and there's no way in hell that they
Speaker 1: are ever finding that.
Speaker 3: That is the most revolting thing I have ever heard.
Speaker 2: But really, no, you would realize pretty quickly that the
Speaker 2: stench was coming from your match, but you'd be.
Speaker 1: Looking under it.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't. It's son up. But it's like, I'm essentially six.
Speaker 3: That is so fucking rank.
Speaker 4: Imagine someone getting frozen rats and putting them inside your mattress. Okay,
Speaker 4: there's so many guys, There was so, so, so many
Speaker 4: of these. The most common one, which we're also not endorsing,
Speaker 4: was that you went and had sex with someone who
Speaker 4: they cared about, like their brother or their best friend,
Speaker 4: or their cousin or someone in their immediate family who.
Speaker 3: You thought this is really going to hurt them.
Speaker 2: Also, I poked a hole in his goggles so that
Speaker 2: they would just leak a tiny little bit when he
Speaker 2: was swimming, which he did daily.
Speaker 3: That's an annoying one.
Speaker 2: Reported him to the government for tax fraud and added
Speaker 2: him to a monthly Bible.
Speaker 3: Subscription, which he now received in the That's all right,
Speaker 3: Maybe he needed to find God.
Speaker 4: He needed to repent for his sins. Motherful, Okay, this
Speaker 4: one's actually dangerous. Poured olive oil on the windscreen. You
Speaker 4: can't do anything that's going to kill someone.
Speaker 3: Is it dangerous?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: Would he realize as soon as he got in the
Speaker 2: car that he couldn't if it's oily.
Speaker 1: And it's distorting your vision, Like, I'm getting really serious,
Speaker 1: so you can't do that. The Bible thing's one thing,
Speaker 1: all right? I mean we really ended on down, it,
Speaker 1: didn't you, broo.
Speaker 2: I wanted to talk about something today that is a
Speaker 2: little bit different to your standard life un cut content,
Speaker 2: which really does bounce around with a whole lot of
Speaker 2: different stuff. You guys might have seen that there are
Speaker 2: a lot of conversations happening online at the moment which
Speaker 2: is spearheaded by independent and by the major news groups
Speaker 2: around Meta, which is if you are not familiar with Meta,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you are. It's Facebook and Instagram. The parent
Speaker 2: company of Facebook and Instagram, Mark Zuckerberg basically is changing
Speaker 2: the way in which Facebook is going to distribute news.
Speaker 3: On their platforms.
Speaker 2: You might remember back in twenty twenty one, there was
Speaker 2: this like a couple of days when news was taken
Speaker 2: off Instagram and off Facebook and everybody was up in arms.
Speaker 2: It was like a news blackout, absolutely, and the reason
Speaker 2: for that was because at the time Meta and the
Speaker 2: Government were at lockerheads around who should be paying for
Speaker 2: news and how was news in Australia going to be
Speaker 2: distributed on social media platforms. Now, the agreement that they
Speaker 2: broke it in twenty twenty one expires in April this year,
Speaker 2: and that agreement was called the Government News Media Bargaining Code,
Speaker 2: which basically meant that news outlets, the big major news
Speaker 2: outlets I'm talking like Fairfax and seven, it allowed them
Speaker 2: to negotiate with Meta to receive a payment for the
Speaker 2: news and the content that they put onto Meta's networks.
Speaker 2: So basically, if they were going to provide content and
Speaker 2: they're going to post, and they're going to be driving
Speaker 2: people towards news and sharing the news, what it meant
Speaker 2: is that the responsibility of payment laid with Meta. And
Speaker 2: so every year Meta pays an absolute fuck load to
Speaker 2: Australian news outlets. I think it accounts for up to
Speaker 2: ten percent of their overall income that they're receiving.
Speaker 3: This is not a new thing.
Speaker 2: Basically, what's happened is that Meta has turned around and said,
Speaker 2: as of April.
Speaker 3: We're binning the whole thing.
Speaker 2: We are no longer going to be paying for news
Speaker 2: to be supported on our sites. So ultimately what is
Speaker 2: going to happen is that they're removing the news tab,
Speaker 2: so you'll no longer be able to go on Facebook
Speaker 2: and have a news tab there where you can see
Speaker 2: what's current in the world. And also they're going to
Speaker 2: limit any of the news platforms. So I'm talking you know,
Speaker 2: if you go on and you look at ABC News,
Speaker 2: or you look at Sky News, or you look at
Speaker 2: dot com some of the independent ones as well, like
Speaker 2: the Daily Os, who have been very vocal in this space,
Speaker 2: you will no longer be able to see the content.
Speaker 3: And so currently this.
Speaker 2: Band already exists in the UK, it exists in Germany,
Speaker 2: in France and in Canada. They rolled this out earlier
Speaker 2: this year, and so if you go on to any
Speaker 2: news site in those places, it currently says news in
Speaker 2: this area cannot be accessed because it is banned on
Speaker 2: this network. So if you try and this is interesting
Speaker 2: because the Daily Oz did an episode on it, if
Speaker 2: you're in Canada at the moment and you try and
Speaker 2: Instagram search, the daily os. You cannot see the profile
Speaker 2: page and you cannot see the content that it has.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think the interesting thing is here the
Speaker 1: reason Facebook's giving for saying, Hey, we're going to withdraw
Speaker 1: OWND news. This is the official quote that Meta put out.
Speaker 1: They've decided that the cost of providing news in Australia
Speaker 1: is too high. It's reason for the change is to
Speaker 1: better align our investments to our products and services people
Speaker 1: value the most. The interesting thing here is the statistic
Speaker 1: that Meta put out saying that in the last year,
Speaker 1: news clicks in Australia have declined by eighty percent, which
Speaker 1: is a huge amount. They're saying there's something like only
Speaker 1: three percent of engagement with news sites now. But how
Speaker 1: are we supposed to know that that is even a
Speaker 1: valid statistic? This is just purely coming from Meta Medican
Speaker 1: tellus whatever the fuck they want.
Speaker 2: Well, I found this so deeply fascinating, And the reason
Speaker 2: for that is because partly when I read all about this,
Speaker 2: and I do not think that Facebook are the good guys.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you that first, I do not think
Speaker 2: that Meta other good guys in this, but I also
Speaker 2: understand why they're at a point now where they're like,
Speaker 2: we no longer want the news on our platform. So
Speaker 2: basically they've said that three percent of the content is
Speaker 2: what constitutes news and what people are engaged with when
Speaker 2: it comes to news on their platform. And I know
Speaker 2: that there's no way for us to know the truth
Speaker 2: behind that and as to whether that is fact or not.
Speaker 2: But the reality is why would they have Facebook. Their
Speaker 2: number one thing they want is for people to spend
Speaker 2: more time on their platform. So if news was making
Speaker 2: up a hugely critical volume of people's interests, they wouldn't
Speaker 2: be removing it, they would be keeping it. So they
Speaker 2: have obviously done a cost analysis of well how much
Speaker 2: does it cost us to have the news? How much
Speaker 2: are we outlaying in order to have this content and
Speaker 2: for people to engage with it, and is it valuable
Speaker 2: to us?
Speaker 3: And do we need it?
Speaker 2: And they've come to the decision as a business, well no,
Speaker 2: we don't need it, and the news outlets need us
Speaker 2: a fuckload more than we need them. And that's where
Speaker 2: this kind of like dynamic has been created. And the
Speaker 2: thing that I think is the biggest flaw with the
Speaker 2: Australian Government's news media bargaining agreement that they came to
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one is that it doesn't benefit all
Speaker 2: news outlets. So independent news outlets like The Conversation, like
Speaker 2: The Daily because, for example, they don't actually get a
Speaker 2: kickback from Meta and arguably they are some of the
Speaker 2: very creative news outlets who are putting out the most
Speaker 2: unbiased and factchecked news news that as well, I think
Speaker 2: is the most engaging on their platforms. The Daily Oz
Speaker 2: has grown, it like, absolutely exploded in the last three
Speaker 2: years since covid.
Speaker 3: Well, they have half a million followers on Instagram alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when we interviewed Sam a few years back,
Speaker 2: there were only on like one hundred and fifty thousand.
Speaker 2: So the thing with the Daily Oz is that they
Speaker 2: created a platform where it took news to the place
Speaker 2: where people engage with it.
Speaker 3: That's on social media.
Speaker 2: But the reason why I guess the whole thing is
Speaker 2: kind of like a bit of a problem and why
Speaker 2: it's kind of moved so far away from it being
Speaker 2: a news aggregator is that on one hand, you have
Speaker 2: news batlets who have profiles on Instagram, and in order
Speaker 2: to get people to engage with their content further, what
Speaker 2: they do and It's what we've all seen is instead
Speaker 2: of having a news article sitting and living on Instagram,
Speaker 2: they just have a really click baity headline, something that
Speaker 2: as you're scrolling you see it and you're like, oh fuck,
Speaker 2: what's that and then you have to click the link
Speaker 2: in bio in order to go and read the article.
Speaker 2: So what news outlets are actually doing is that they're
Speaker 2: pushing people off the platform onto their own sites to
Speaker 2: engage with their own content, and ultimately, Meta as a
Speaker 2: business doesn't want users leaving their platform. We've discussed this
Speaker 2: so many times. They want people with engaging with their
Speaker 2: content as much as possible for as long as possible.
Speaker 1: The daily is so if you don't know who they are,
Speaker 1: you'll know the faces of it.
Speaker 3: Zara and Sam they are the founders.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of people that have gone into it,
Speaker 1: but they're the face that's who you'll hear from the most.
Speaker 1: And I think Zara summarized it really well, So I
Speaker 1: just want to read exactly what she wrote. She said,
Speaker 1: without a strong news ecosystem on social media, young Australians
Speaker 1: will have nowhere to access reliable, fact checked information. We
Speaker 1: know young people won't actively seek out news elsewhere. All
Speaker 1: the research tells us that, so what will happen? Instead,
Speaker 1: We'll see a rise in influencer led commentary attracting young
Speaker 1: people to death. With the editors, fact and journalists that
Speaker 1: make up modern newsrooms, young people will have unchecked opinions
Speaker 1: in their place. Now, just to sit on that for
Speaker 1: a second, that is something that you don't immediately think about,
Speaker 1: but that is so worrying. We see so many loud
Speaker 1: people on social media that are stuffing their opinions that
Speaker 1: are often incorrect down your throats and unforbiased, biased opinion, biased,
Speaker 1: sometimes uneducated. Sometimes you know, there's a whole multitude of things,
Speaker 1: but they're throwing these down your throat. And if you've
Speaker 1: got nowhere else to access your news, it's very easy
Speaker 1: and we've seen it happen. It's very easy to listen
Speaker 1: to what some influencer has said, take that as gospel,
Speaker 1: and you go and spread that news.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also what it means is like people are not
Speaker 2: going to pay for subscription newspapers right like most people
Speaker 2: And I would love to just do a poll of
Speaker 2: you guys. The life is like who is paying for
Speaker 2: a subscription based news outlet? Like, are you subscribed to
Speaker 2: the Telegraph? Are you subscribed to I don't know, the
Speaker 2: New York Times. I would love to know how many
Speaker 2: of you actually are paying for news because we live
Speaker 2: in a society where we so deeply just expect things
Speaker 2: for free, and I think people are getting most of
Speaker 2: their bite sized information, whether it is a good thing
Speaker 2: or not, from social media. I guess the big question
Speaker 2: though with in this, you can be angry at Meta
Speaker 2: and you can like stomp and be so like, this
Speaker 2: is an outrage. We should be able to have this,
Speaker 2: you know, free access to unfettered news, and now it
Speaker 2: means that people are not going to have the ability
Speaker 2: to fact check and it means that news is going
Speaker 2: to be more limited blah blah blah blah blah. But
Speaker 2: is Meta the ones who are responsible for that or
Speaker 2: has the government created a situation where Meta is actually
Speaker 2: funding news organizations within Australia and it's not their responsibility
Speaker 2: to do so. And the reason I say this is
Speaker 2: because there is no one the industry that gets paid
Speaker 2: to put their content on a platform that is free
Speaker 2: that we all use daily, that we all profit from
Speaker 2: in different ways, and whether you profit from it, because
Speaker 2: it allows you to connect to your friendship group, and
Speaker 2: you connect with your friends for no cost or whether
Speaker 2: it's because you And when I say no cost, I
Speaker 2: mean no financial cost, because there is always a cost
Speaker 2: of using Meta. We all pay with our data, we
Speaker 2: all pay in some way. But I think about me
Speaker 2: as a small business. I hugely financially profit from using
Speaker 2: Instagram for Tony May, and in fact I have to
Speaker 2: pay a shitload of money and ads in order to
Speaker 2: be able to get my product to my services out
Speaker 2: there more freely. Now I know that I don't provide
Speaker 2: something that is as critical as the news nowhere near,
Speaker 2: but there are other organizations out there who do. There
Speaker 2: are other people who pay to use Meta and Facebook
Speaker 2: whose product is genuinely life changing and amazing, and yet
Speaker 2: they still have to pay in order to be used
Speaker 2: and being on that platform.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I think it opens up.
Speaker 1: It opens up another question, and this is a completely
Speaker 1: different segue, but it opens up the question of of
Speaker 1: course we should be paying for things.
Speaker 3: In all aspects of life.
Speaker 1: Every single person and every single industry is a business
Speaker 1: that needs to make money to survive, So like we
Speaker 1: shouldn't be expecting people to give us things for free.
Speaker 1: The problem in this situation lies in the fact of
Speaker 1: Meta's worth. Meta makes so much money. In twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: they made an annual growth profit of one hundred and
Speaker 1: eight billion dollars.
Speaker 3: So it's so much.
Speaker 1: Well, it comes back to the question of Okay, we
Speaker 1: get it, We get that, like, you shouldn't be putting
Speaker 1: things out for free, but you also make more than
Speaker 1: any other company, Like you're making one hundred billion dollars
Speaker 1: a year.
Speaker 3: Is it that much to ask that we can have
Speaker 3: news on our platform?
Speaker 1: And then it comes back to this question of okay,
Speaker 1: does this responsibility full on in all aspects of life?
Speaker 1: If somebody makes more money, does that responsibility fall on
Speaker 1: them to provide things for free? And I think it's
Speaker 1: a question and taking this away to simplify it for
Speaker 1: a second, it's a question that we've done on the
Speaker 1: podcast before where friends have said one of my friends
Speaker 1: earned so much more money than me, should they be
Speaker 1: paying more for dinner? You know, it comes back to that,
Speaker 1: like there are so many different levels.
Speaker 2: I love that you just managed to make a linkage
Speaker 2: between Facebook and better and going out for dinner.
Speaker 3: But I agree, I.
Speaker 1: Agree, I'm just trying to put it on a level
Speaker 1: that we can understand in our in our own life
Speaker 1: because no one listening to this, I'm a big call.
Speaker 1: No one listening to this can relate to one hundred
Speaker 1: billion dollars, right, we can't. But does it always have
Speaker 1: to fall on the person that's making the most money,
Speaker 1: the most profit to then go and provide something extra
Speaker 1: for free?
Speaker 2: Because I don't know when you say it like that,
Speaker 2: though part of me thinks if you're a monopoly and
Speaker 2: you have that level of income, then you should be
Speaker 2: contributing back to the creators who keep people engaged on
Speaker 2: your platforms. There is a part of me that says
Speaker 2: yes totally. But I guess the reason why I kind
Speaker 2: of think that it's such a unique case when it
Speaker 2: comes to the news is because there are no other
Speaker 2: creators who are given the same sort of benefits, I guess.
Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, the impact that
Speaker 2: we're going to see really is that news within Australia
Speaker 2: is going to suffer because it already suffers. Back in
Speaker 2: the day, people used to pay for newspapers, physical newspapers.
Speaker 2: We used to buy them every week, and now we
Speaker 2: don't invest in the news on a consumer level in
Speaker 2: the way that we used to. So what's going to
Speaker 2: happen is that these big organizations are still going to
Speaker 2: need to make money, so subscriptions are going to increase.
Speaker 2: News is going to become more limited because they need
Speaker 2: to make money. They are also a business. Like that's
Speaker 2: going to have a flow on effect. But also what
Speaker 2: it means is news is going to get more sensationalized
Speaker 2: because the headlines, if that's the thing that's going to
Speaker 2: grab your attention to make you pay for the subscription,
Speaker 2: they're gonna get wilder. It's going to get crazier. That
Speaker 2: is going to be like shock jock news. Headlines that
Speaker 2: make you want to pay for the subscription or pay
Speaker 2: for that article, that's what's going to get you over
Speaker 2: the line.
Speaker 1: Now, well, there's a possibility it's going to become far
Speaker 1: more limited. And we say that because if everybody does
Speaker 1: go to paid news, there are a lot of free
Speaker 1: news outlets, right but you still then if you are saying, okay,
Speaker 1: I only want to get my news from a free site,
Speaker 1: so you already cut your options in half, right, Like,
Speaker 1: so those ones are all paid, not going to even
Speaker 1: look at them. It puts a lot more responsibility back
Speaker 1: on the consumer, which we always encourage that anyway. We
Speaker 1: always encourage you as a consumer to have responsibility on
Speaker 1: where you're getting your news. But it's going to put
Speaker 1: that No, they don't, but this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This is going to make that tenfold because your options
Speaker 1: are far more limited, so you have to really put
Speaker 1: a bit of thought into where you're going to be
Speaker 1: accessing the news and why.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing, right, I mean, if we if
Speaker 2: we look at consumer behavior, and I mean I'm guilty
Speaker 2: of this as well, I would say that I'm someone
Speaker 2: who probably above average seeks out the news, like I
Speaker 2: pay for subscriptions myself, but I also ingest so much
Speaker 2: of it just because it's been served to me on
Speaker 2: social media and then it's something that I was interested in,
Speaker 2: so that I kind of went down a rabbit hole
Speaker 2: and found more things. The thing is is like, you
Speaker 2: don't know what you don't know, and so by limiting
Speaker 2: people's exposure to what's happening in the world, it makes
Speaker 2: everybody's life a little bit more narrow and everyone's focus
Speaker 2: of interests a little bit more narrow, especially if you're
Speaker 2: expecting them to pay for something that they didn't even
Speaker 2: know that they were interested in in the first place.
Speaker 4: I have a question that I've just thought about. If
Speaker 4: you compare the programs that are something like a YouTube
Speaker 4: and how YouTube pays their creators based off of views.
Speaker 4: And I don't know the metrics completely, but you get
Speaker 4: my point. YouTube actually pays people to create content that
Speaker 4: they put on their platform. Yeah, why it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: Everyone knows that you can make money through Instagram. But
Speaker 4: correct me if I'm wrong. That is only if you
Speaker 4: are getting paid by a brand, right, Like, yes, if
Speaker 4: you get a million views on a video, they're not
Speaker 4: giving you money to compensate you for the fact that
Speaker 4: people have engaged with that content for that long. So
Speaker 4: TikTok is different. YouTube is different. They do pay their
Speaker 4: creators based off of views and time spent on there.
Speaker 3: I didn't know TikTok prays their creators.
Speaker 4: It's not in Australia, but it exists in America. I'm
Speaker 4: not sure where else it exists, but I know it
Speaker 4: doesn't exist here.
Speaker 2: That is fascinating because the way in which YouTube pays
Speaker 2: you is through they push ads. So if you're watching
Speaker 2: a YouTube video, you would know that like every couple
Speaker 2: of minutes or every whatever time stamp it is, there's
Speaker 2: an ad that is pushed. And it's different to say
Speaker 2: a podcast ad, for example, because we might do ads
Speaker 2: with brands where we work directly with them, we help
Speaker 2: to script, but this is like an ad that they
Speaker 2: have no control over. It's just pushed out onto their platform.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of where the money comes from. And
Speaker 2: that's why YouTube an overall fee because those ads are.
Speaker 3: Worth X amount of money.
Speaker 2: The other thing that I think is important to mention
Speaker 2: is most news outlets make a lot of money from
Speaker 2: their advertising on site. So they make money through banner ads.
Speaker 2: Through like you know, when you're going to Daily Mail
Speaker 2: and you get absolutely fucked in the ahs by ads.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you can't even read the article because the ads
Speaker 2: are popping out all over it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: They're what's called like banner or retargeting ads, and those
Speaker 2: ads are what generates a lot of money for that site.
Speaker 2: So the more hits and users you get to your website, obviously,
Speaker 2: the more money you can make through your website. That's
Speaker 2: how most news organizations make their income. And I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's the biggest percentage of income. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure what the split is, but it is a very
Speaker 2: considerable income for them. And so that's why I kind
Speaker 2: of unpack this idea that well, when you see click
Speaker 2: the link in bio to go to our website, you're
Speaker 2: double profiting from the same thing as a news outlet.
Speaker 2: You're already being paid to put the content on meta,
Speaker 2: but then you're forcibly some of them, some of them,
Speaker 2: the big.
Speaker 3: Users some of them.
Speaker 2: But then you're forcibly pushing users to go to your
Speaker 2: website where you earn more money because they're engaging with
Speaker 2: content there where they're getting retargeting ads. So I think
Speaker 2: that that's why there's this like at the moment, the
Speaker 2: dialogue that's happening around this big legislation change. It's going
Speaker 2: to have an immense impact on us as people who
Speaker 2: consume social media, but I also don't know where the
Speaker 2: responsibility lies when you actually look at the complete picture.
Speaker 2: This will affect all of us once this government law
Speaker 2: that was passed in twenty twenty one finally comes to
Speaker 2: an end.
Speaker 1: It's the things that you don't think about too that
Speaker 1: I found really interesting when I was doing a bit
Speaker 1: of a deep dive. David Anderson, who is the managing
Speaker 1: director of ABC. He has come out and said, look,
Speaker 1: we're obviously deeply disappointed because off the back of their
Speaker 1: deal with Meta, they funded roles for sixty journalists. So
Speaker 1: that's just one. That's just the ABC conglomerate. When you
Speaker 1: think about every single network or every media outlet that
Speaker 1: has gone and made these financial decisions based off deal
Speaker 1: that they thought was going to be with no end inside,
Speaker 1: I suppose how many people are going to be losing
Speaker 1: their jobs.
Speaker 2: So many journalists are going to lose their jobs. But
Speaker 2: and I genuinely come back to what we said earlier
Speaker 2: about people like the Conversation, people like SBS even it
Speaker 2: doesn't get a kickback from Meta, the Daily Oz, these
Speaker 2: independent news sources who have been creating fantastic content, contributing
Speaker 2: so deeply to the news cycle and to the news conversation,
Speaker 2: but they haven't been getting a kickback from Meta.
Speaker 3: But they're going to be penalized.
Speaker 2: I think that they are really the ones that are
Speaker 2: going to be the most disadvantaged from this because they've
Speaker 2: built their entire network around creating fucking phenomenal content on
Speaker 2: a platform that is all about engagement, But ultimately, I
Speaker 2: think this raises a bigger question and it's something that
Speaker 2: britt you and I and Kisha we've spoken about so
Speaker 2: many times. We're content creators and we create podcasts and
Speaker 2: we are one of the only podcasts in the top
Speaker 2: ten of Australia who doesn't charge subscribers for any additional content.
Speaker 2: Life on Cut is free and has always been free,
Speaker 2: and it's something that we've contemplated. But maybe it comes
Speaker 2: down to imposter syndrome a little bit, where we're.
Speaker 3: Like, fuck, what will people paid for? Well, it's funny.
Speaker 1: Because we got asked to do paid content, like to
Speaker 1: put up paywalls, to put do patreons, to subscribe month.
Speaker 2: Apple podcasts additional subscription. We had deep meetings with Apple
Speaker 2: around subscription based models.
Speaker 1: We were asked multiple times and you know this is
Speaker 1: back before it all kicked off. I'm talking years ago,
Speaker 1: before anyone in Australia had really gone into the paid
Speaker 1: atmosphere because overseas it's normal.
Speaker 2: And we had another meeting about it last year when
Speaker 2: other big players in the Australian landscape were doing it.
Speaker 1: You guys all know, you know shameless and you know
Speaker 1: Mama Mia. But even shows like I think they're the
Speaker 1: top show in Australia still one or two case file,
Speaker 1: which is the true crime.
Speaker 3: Even they do subscription based content.
Speaker 2: But even tiny podcasts do subscription based total content.
Speaker 1: Now and when Mom and Mia, for example, I'm going
Speaker 1: to use them because you know, we're all women that
Speaker 1: are doing podcasts that are talking about similar things totally.
Speaker 1: The kickback that they got from their audiences who were
Speaker 1: always supportive. They have beautiful, loving, caring audiences for years.
Speaker 1: And the second that they put a dollar value on
Speaker 1: their content saying hey, guys, we can't keep doing this
Speaker 1: for free. People were like, that's wrong, you shouldn't be charging.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of people that are working really hard to bring you
Speaker 1: guys things every single week, and they've done so for
Speaker 1: X amount of years for free. Why is it the
Speaker 1: expectation that it should be for free.
Speaker 2: I think social media has bred a sense of entitlement
Speaker 2: to content. I think we do genuinely think and expect
Speaker 2: that we have free access to everything and.
Speaker 3: That the bucks shouldn't stop with the consumer.
Speaker 2: But I loved Mia Friedman's argument and debate to this
Speaker 2: because they receive so much backlash. And she was like,
Speaker 2: we're a female founded media company. We create incredible content,
Speaker 2: and we should be paid for the content that we
Speaker 2: create and the work that we put into it, not
Speaker 2: just from brands and suppliers, but also from the people
Speaker 2: who are consuming it and benefiting from the many incredible
Speaker 2: people who we pay to share their stories. And I
Speaker 2: so deeply agree with this, and I really want to
Speaker 2: make it clear. We are not saying that we don't
Speaker 2: have a subscription model for you guys, for the Life
Speaker 2: is because we think we're better than other podcasts. We
Speaker 2: only do it because of that literal like imposter syndrome
Speaker 2: where we think like, well, are we putting out content
Speaker 2: that we feel as though we can charge people for.
Speaker 2: You know, that's an internal thing which I think a
Speaker 2: lot of women and a lot of creators and a
Speaker 2: lot of people worry about, you know, price point setting
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff. But the world is
Speaker 2: changing and I think for so long we've had free
Speaker 2: access to whatever we've wanted when it comes to content,
Speaker 2: and slowly and slowly we are re educating the consumer
Speaker 2: that content needs to be paid for depending on what
Speaker 2: it is, and I think the same thing is going
Speaker 2: to happen within the news world.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: We're going to become more comfortable with and more accepting
Speaker 2: of the fact that we have to pay for news.
Speaker 2: Some people will and some people will have subscriptions, and
Speaker 2: some people will choose to be ignorant because they don't
Speaker 2: care about the news and they don't care about what's
Speaker 2: happening in the world. And to be fair, those people
Speaker 2: probably weren't engaging with news.
Speaker 4: In a very healthy way anyway online. They probably were
Speaker 4: the ones who were reading the headlines and then being sensationalized.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: And we're also not saying we're about to go and
Speaker 1: slap on a fee for life on cut like we're not.
Speaker 1: This isn't us getting you ready for like hey in
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. But it's a conversation that we
Speaker 1: do constantly have and maybe one day in the future
Speaker 1: it's something that we will look at in some capacity.
Speaker 2: We don't know, but it's always an add on. I
Speaker 2: don't I want to warn you guys, if we ever
Speaker 2: did do a subscription model, it's not to access the
Speaker 2: content full stop. Yeah, we're never ever going to take
Speaker 2: away from you. We would only ever be giving you more.
Speaker 3: But we do the model.
Speaker 1: We've done nearly five years at five hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: episodes and never charged.
Speaker 3: A dollar for it.
Speaker 1: I think, I mean we charged brands, so the consumer,
Speaker 1: we've never charged the consumer ever.
Speaker 3: Can I just do them out though?
Speaker 4: And the main concern for me about this whole thing,
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem paying for my news.
Speaker 3: I pay some news organizations.
Speaker 1: We pay a dollar a month to the New York
Speaker 1: Times New York I have.
Speaker 4: Scriptions to other podcasts and that kind of thing. I
Speaker 4: don't have a problem with paying a small amount of
Speaker 4: money per month. I think it's a really good thing
Speaker 4: if you can to support the people that you enjoy
Speaker 4: the content from. What I do think is quite concerning
Speaker 4: is that if you look back twenty years ago, where
Speaker 4: there was such a monopoly of information that was shared
Speaker 4: to us media, I'm just gonna go to outright say it.
Speaker 4: They impacted your television news, they impacted your newspaper news.
Speaker 4: And it's only quite recently in the big scale that
Speaker 4: we've seen a push towards a more independent source of information.
Speaker 4: And I think that largely it's because of people like
Speaker 4: cheek media like the Daily os so now taking them
Speaker 4: out of the equation.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 4: Still happy to pay for some news sites, but is
Speaker 4: this going to push us back to the fact that
Speaker 4: we get news in a more traditional way. It's so biased,
Speaker 4: it's so skewed to whatever the people who run those
Speaker 4: organizations are willing to show you, and I think that's
Speaker 4: really terrifying. I'm just annoyed about the fact that they
Speaker 4: got funding for what six or seven companies in Australia,
Speaker 4: and yet the more independent ones never got the money,
Speaker 4: and now they're going to be disadvantaged because metter have
Speaker 4: changed their mind and gone, well, we don't want to
Speaker 4: get fined. So to me, it's quite scary because I
Speaker 4: think this is the start of where you could end
Speaker 4: up in an echo chamber, you know. Like, like I said,
Speaker 4: I'm happy to pay for some subscriptions, but I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna pay for subscriptions to Sky News because I don't
Speaker 4: like their content. But I still read it because I
Speaker 4: go I want to hear the other side. But if
Speaker 4: I had to pay for it, I think it makes
Speaker 4: you end up in a bit of an echo chamber
Speaker 4: if you don't ever see the other opinions, and you're
Speaker 4: not gonna pay for something that you don't like or
Speaker 4: don't agree.
Speaker 2: But also not just like you don't want to pay
Speaker 2: for it. We're in a cost of living crisis. People
Speaker 2: can't pay for the luxuries. Some people can't even pay
Speaker 2: for their own rent and food and taking care of
Speaker 2: their pets, Like there has been a huge increase in
Speaker 2: pets being like left at adoption facilities because people can't
Speaker 2: pay for pet food. They're sure a shit not going
Speaker 2: to be paying for the news. So it is a
Speaker 2: privilege to be able to seek out new information. And
Speaker 2: I kind of hate that we left this to the
Speaker 2: very end to unpack. But the cost of living is
Speaker 2: going to affect people's ability to subscribe because that's a luxury,
Speaker 2: and that's something that I think is unfair.
Speaker 1: It's time for accidentally unfiltered your most embarrassing story, and
Speaker 1: we had an absolute banger come in. Now, this is
Speaker 1: one of those stories that happens when you're a child,
Speaker 1: Like you know, those stories that it's not recent, but
Speaker 1: you've never quite moved on from it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1: Last Christmas, all my extended family got together to hang out.
Speaker 1: We're all sharing our own accidentally unfiltered.
Speaker 3: We love that you're taking this into your family. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we love. We love embarrassing stories.
Speaker 1: We're all sharing our own acciently unfilters with each other
Speaker 1: and remembering all the embarrassing stuff we've done in our childhood.
Speaker 1: We'd all had a good laugh, and then my aunt
Speaker 1: brought up a story that myself and my mind had
Speaker 1: obviously forgotten about for good reason. As the story goes,
Speaker 1: it was my first year at primary school and I
Speaker 1: had a fresh, brand new Harry Potter lunchbox to take
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 4: Cute.
Speaker 1: Apparently I was quite a shy kid, and for some
Speaker 1: reason I didn't want to go to the toilet to
Speaker 1: do a number two. In details that are obviously too
Speaker 1: traumatic to be remembered by anyone, I came home that
Speaker 1: day from school. Mom went to unpack my bag and
Speaker 1: smelt something awful. After investigating the sauce, she.
Speaker 3: Discovered that I shipped in my lunch box and brought
Speaker 3: it home. What the fuck? Why?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: Wait, that doesn't even make sense. It's still doing your
Speaker 3: shit at school? Yeah you still Where did you swhere?
Speaker 3: Did your ship? Where did you take the lunchbox?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: Did you go into this? I've got to go to
Speaker 3: a storeroom to get a new glue stick.
Speaker 1: And shit in your lunchbox? Like, where has that shit
Speaker 1: taken place? Surely you didn't take it to the bathroom
Speaker 1: to do the shit.
Speaker 4: More questions when you think, okay, it's embarrassing to do
Speaker 4: in public, did you think that the embarrassing part was
Speaker 4: doing it in the toilet?
Speaker 1: He's obviously gone to like maybe he's gone to the
Speaker 1: sports storeroom.
Speaker 4: Remember when in the sports storeroom is worse than just going.
Speaker 1: To and then walking around school being ship boy because
Speaker 1: that stench, that stench is like coming out of your
Speaker 1: lunch box.
Speaker 3: I just nodded in my own.
Speaker 1: Hair, because like if you're walking through the playground with
Speaker 1: a ship in your bag, people gotta know my Okay.
Speaker 4: I just think if that was me and Marley came
Speaker 4: home with a ship in a lunch box. Oh, we've
Speaker 4: been having to sit down chat. That's a that's a hay, honey,
Speaker 4: and mummy needs to talk to you. Let's go to
Speaker 4: all the toilet, let's go to the bedroom and have
Speaker 4: a little chat around what's happened. I would think that
Speaker 4: like maybe she'd gotten bullied into do it. I would
Speaker 4: never assume that.
Speaker 3: She's got bully in your lunch box? What school did
Speaker 3: you gotta get? War Ship Ship Ship.
Speaker 4: I would never assume that she had voluntarily taken her
Speaker 4: lunchbox into a toilet and shit on it.
Speaker 3: I will think that my parenting had failed so deeply.
Speaker 1: We also love the detail here, like I thought that
Speaker 1: it was going to have something to do with the story,
Speaker 1: Like the fact that it was a Harry Potter lunchbox had.
Speaker 3: Nothing to do with the story. They just wrote that
Speaker 3: in for some extra detail like the I'm talking of
Speaker 3: brand new Harry bottle line. I appreciate the detail. Guys.
Speaker 2: If you have an accidentally unfiltered or something from your
Speaker 2: past that you maybe you've forgotten it and your auntie
Speaker 2: has to remind you about it, please send it in
Speaker 2: because we need it and we love it, and we
Speaker 2: won't laugh at you.
Speaker 3: We will, but we will also love with you. We
Speaker 3: are with you, but no one knows who you are,
Speaker 3: so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Fine, you're anonymously shitting in lunchboxes all around the country. Anyway, Guys,
Speaker 2: it is time for suck and sweet, our highlight and
Speaker 2: our low light of each and every week.
Speaker 3: You go first okay, my son for this week because
Speaker 3: I can never think. No, I know you can't.
Speaker 2: My fun of this week is that, so Matt and
Speaker 2: the girls went away on a cruise. You guys know
Speaker 2: they're home now, but they went away. Yeah, they are
Speaker 2: actually anyway for five days. Oh, you were so dramatic.
Speaker 4: I made Matt has led me for six months, I said,
Speaker 4: I said, a wheezing the Atlantic.
Speaker 2: I said a week, but it was like five days,
Speaker 2: and five days is close enough to a week. I
Speaker 2: think it started at ten days and then you said
Speaker 2: ten days and I was like a week.
Speaker 4: Oh, so I'm the problem. Yeah, it's you anyway. Sorry,
Speaker 4: sorry for misleading everyone with my fate news about how
Speaker 4: long away my husband was.
Speaker 2: He was away for five days, But my suck is
Speaker 2: it's not that bad, but it's a bit annoying. It
Speaker 2: would have been so nice to have those five days
Speaker 2: to actually like relax and maybe go to bed early.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and start complaining. You went to a rave on
Speaker 3: night when I did.
Speaker 2: That was the only thing I did for myself in
Speaker 2: that whole time that the kids were away. Work has
Speaker 2: been so intense. We've had heaps going on with Tony May.
Speaker 2: We've had so much going on with life on cart
Speaker 2: like every day has been you know, like twelve hour
Speaker 2: work days and so getting to bed really late, waking
Speaker 2: up super early in the morning. Which it's good that
Speaker 2: they're not here because I would have had immense mum
Speaker 2: guilt if I was trying to do this kind of
Speaker 2: like workload whilst the kids.
Speaker 3: But it just kind of hasn't really felt.
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: Matt's going, Oh the kids aren't here, I'm gonna be
Speaker 4: able to shave my legs for a change, but I
Speaker 4: haven't done that, so to be honest, yeah, that's kind
Speaker 4: of my stuck for the week.
Speaker 3: And then the kids are back.
Speaker 2: So Matt being home and having the kids back, that
Speaker 2: is my absolute sweet because I have missed Lola and
Speaker 2: Mary getting into my bed at four in the morning,
Speaker 2: which I know, yeah I have.
Speaker 3: I've missed them. I've missed them so much. So I'm
Speaker 3: so happy that home. That's very sweet. My suck.
Speaker 1: I always have trouble thinking of sucks, and I genuinely
Speaker 1: mean that because I just feel like I like my life,
Speaker 1: but my suck has to be.
Speaker 5: And I just tell you, I'm not growling, don't worry
Speaker 5: when I told you guys I got laser last week.
Speaker 5: I just forgot this part. I got it on all
Speaker 5: my legs and my bikini line. I don't think I
Speaker 5: told you that. So I got a whole Brazilian and
Speaker 5: my legs. Anyway, So she's like, okay, roll over, now
Speaker 5: on do you tummy and I'll lazy your legs. So
Speaker 5: I was like the back of the legs and I
Speaker 5: was like yeah, cool. So I was getting the back
Speaker 5: of my legs laser. And then she goes, do you
Speaker 5: want your buttthole done? Is a finisher?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I was like, yes, I do. That makes it
Speaker 3: sound like it's a celebration.
Speaker 4: No, it kind of sounds like in a pair of
Speaker 4: teeth after your meal. Do you want a little lemon
Speaker 4: chello on your butttholder?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You want to finish that? You want a buttthole of
Speaker 3: your lemon chello?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And so I was like a lemon cilla and a buttthole.
Speaker 1: I was like, do what my butthole is it? And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, fuck, I'm already here and I'm
Speaker 1: laying on my tummy.
Speaker 4: And imagine I didn't get the butthole done and everything
Speaker 4: else was there was not a hair inside, and then
Speaker 4: you bend over did your doggy one day and just
Speaker 4: your buttthole like just like a forest.
Speaker 1: I don't have I'm not a hair person, dude, I
Speaker 1: have no hair on me. I never look my arms.
Speaker 1: I'm not a hairy person. But I was like something
Speaker 1: with a hairy buttole would say, I was like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: do it. So she goes all right, spread them and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I didn't really think how it's
Speaker 1: going to happen. Did you have to eat so humbling?
Speaker 1: Do you be laying naked on your tummy and everyone
Speaker 1: that has had laser nose and then pull your own
Speaker 1: butt cheeks apart so that this poor woman can get
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I am sorry, you have to
Speaker 3: do this. She's like, it's good. I do it all day,
Speaker 3: got in there, zapped.
Speaker 2: It, and I was like, this is mortifying. I have
Speaker 2: so many hemorrhoids from giving birth that I would not
Speaker 2: want to have off my hemorrhoids while you're there. Please
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 3: No, that's mortifying. So that was my suck.
Speaker 1: And the other part is like you have to do
Speaker 1: that multiple times. It's not a one off like it's
Speaker 1: I think it's like a six treatment thing. Anyway, to
Speaker 1: do six buttthhole reveals my buttony is less all right? Well, anyway, guys,
Speaker 1: and I haven't got a suite yet. Oh shit, sorry,
Speaker 1: my sweet is boring for everyone. But I caught up
Speaker 1: with a friend that I haven't seen in a very
Speaker 1: long time, and that was it.
Speaker 3: We went to lunch.
Speaker 1: We had a really nice day because I feel like
Speaker 1: I don't make a lot of time for my friends,
Speaker 1: and I've really thought about that lately. I was like,
Speaker 1: it's shitty of me to be, you know, like you
Speaker 1: just said, Laurie, You're like work work, work, work, work,
Speaker 1: It's so easy, Like, sorry, I don't have time this week.
Speaker 1: Let's do next week. Let's do next week. And all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's been eight months.
Speaker 2: We actually have a very interesting conversation about this coming up,
Speaker 2: which around friendships. We did a poll or we did
Speaker 2: call out sorry on Instagram, so you guys might have
Speaker 2: seen it, but that is in the works.
Speaker 3: Anyway, guys, that's it. That's it for and you know
Speaker 3: the drill.
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Speaker 1: Don't forget we have a YouTube channel on our so
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Speaker 1: most of it. We don't put every single thing up there,
Speaker 1: but there's there's gonna be some extra behind the scenes stuff.
Speaker 3: It's really different to be.
Speaker 1: Able to sit down and watch these interviews as opposed
Speaker 1: to just listening to them, especially when we have our
Speaker 1: guests in the room.
Speaker 2: Also, speaking of guests, can we just take one second
Speaker 2: to appreciate how well behaved both little doggoes were.
Speaker 3: Goodest, goodest babies.
Speaker 2: We have a really incredible episode for you tomorrow with
Speaker 2: one of our very own Nikia love O.
Speaker 3: She is a lifer.
Speaker 2: She has been so active in the Facebook community. You
Speaker 2: may have seen her if you are part of the
Speaker 2: discussion group Nikiya. She found out she had lukemia and
Speaker 2: she was posting her journey in our Life Uncut discussion group.
Speaker 2: Now knowing that this is the month of the World's
Speaker 2: Greatest Shave and it's also around leukemia awareness, but Nikiya's
Speaker 2: story and that interview was honestly for me. It was
Speaker 2: one of my deep favorites and I don't know how
Speaker 2: to describe this without how I can get this across
Speaker 2: to you any more than saying it was like a
Speaker 2: life changing chat. And I think also because it's somebody
Speaker 2: who feels so familiar to us. She's a friend of us,
Speaker 2: She's someone who is so part of the life on
Speaker 2: CUT DNA and the life on CUT community. It reminded
Speaker 2: me of the type of conversation we had with Chanelle Bryant.
Speaker 2: She spoke about her breast cancer and how much that
Speaker 2: conversation stayed with me and meant to me and Nikki
Speaker 2: loves she's currently in remission with her cancer journey, but
Speaker 2: she shares about fertility, she shares about her pregnancy loss
Speaker 2: and also about overcoming cancer. It is a fucking amazing
Speaker 2: conversation and that will be tomorrow's atte.
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