WEBVTT - Is Zuckerberg dumping the news? 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.400 Life on Cut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:06.160 lands were never seated. We pay our respects to their 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:07.600 elders past and present. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:11.399 Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:13.360 recorded on de rug Wallamata Land. 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:25.200 Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:26.759 on Cut. I'm Laura and Brittany. 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:30.000 Things are like very chaotic here in the studio today, 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:34.120 hy Laura, because never before have both of us decided 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:35.000 to bring our animals. 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:36.720 And on the same day you copied me. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.040 I had to bring Delilah today because she has to 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:40.839 go to an appointment. So I was like, I need 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:42.360 to bring it to go and then so Laura's like, well, 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:43.360 then I want to bring Buster. 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:46.600 And now there's two dogs here. One dog was fine, 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:47.120 but two dogs. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:48.839 They're just looking at each other from across the room. 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:50.360 Want him to like rumble. 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.560 Buster wants to hump Delilah to be okay, to be fair. 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:57.040 Delilah's good looking, she's a pretty dog. You can't blame 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.280 the guy. No, he normally Buster. And I'm sorry to 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:02.000 say this, Honey. I know you can hear me right now, 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.080 and I don't want you to feel shamed. But Buster 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.920 is a humper, which is very very very funny to 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:08.319 see because he only got everything. 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:10.160 He's only got three legs. So he tries to mount 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.800 things and he slips off the side. But he doesn't 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.240 try and hump Delilah, So she should be offend. Maybe 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:16.479 he knows Delilah's out of his leave. 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:18.920 No, he did try. Remember they've gone to a fight once. 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:20.880 He tried it on a once and she snapped at 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:22.800 him and he was like, yep, I'll read the roof. 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:24.960 And he's like, all right, my advances are not wanted. 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:29.839 He good, you should respect women more. He's literally passed 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:31.960 now I know he's so old. Now, okay, you were 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.720 bringing Delilah into the studio, and I didn't want Bust 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.520 to be at home knowing that he was the one 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:38.880 that just got left behind. Could you imagine what that 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.000 would do to his side? He doesn't know, he does 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:44.039 he doesn't. No, he does not know that Delilah. Okay, 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.520 that's enough. Anyway, we're here now, we have dogs in 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.920 the studio. It's all happening today. I can I say no, 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:50.760 don't don't. 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:52.800 Say it, don't keep it to yourself, don't be offendant. Girls, 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:54.919 what happened Produca and Laura. 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.520 I got so many messages saying the best part about 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.600 the episode the other day was Delilah's mum chat so 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.280 just saying they were like, we're pro. They were like, 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.600 we're pro Delilah's momth you know how I was like 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:09.960 the difference between us you guys were to rape. 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.280 I was looking at p of Dla's mom. Everyone's like, 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:14.160 I'm your team. I would have been at home looking 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:15.840 at Dalilah's mouth. I love he would you say? 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:20.359 I got so many actually four five, maybe I didn't care. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:25.040 I lost count after three I had after no, there 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:25.639 was so many. 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.280 I couldn't even make my way through all of the 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.680 messages around Delilah's albino mon chat. 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:33.160 I had RSI and my thumb from scrolling the messages. 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.839 Well, we did speak about this on Thursday, or maybe 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:37.920 it was Tuesday, I can't remember, but we spoke about 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.720 a woman who had texted an eyebrow beautician to say 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.239 and to ask the eyebra beautician to go out of 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.920 her way to give her friend the worst eyebrows that 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:48.680 she could ever possibly imagine. 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:50.840 She literally texted the beautitian and was like, yo, this 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:52.160 is my girlfriend fuck her up. 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:53.919 Yeah, And the reason why she did that is because 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.520 she found out that her friend was sleeping with her boyfriend, 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:59.840 which you know, drama, drama, drama. The beautician didn't do it, 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.280 but the post is going viral across social media. So 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:03.959 we gave you guys the call out because we wanted 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.440 to know what is the most heinous revenge plot twist 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.040 that you have ever enacted on an X? 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.080 What did you do to get back to them? And 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.360 at the start, oh, look, at the start, they. 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:15.960 Were pretty pg. 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.720 They were pretty pretty safe, I would have said, But 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.520 then we did another call out and holy dick, you 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:22.480 came to the party. 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.360 I would like to start this conversation by saying, we 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.960 no way encouraged this sort of behavior. About to laugh 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.160 at it, but we are not telling anybody to take 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:32.320 this and go and do anything with it. 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.320 We may want to know endorsing it. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.440 But also some of this stuff is probably like borderline illegal, 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:38.720 So we are. 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:40.800 Laura, are you broke into your ex's house and stole 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.160 the past one and forty signature? 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.320 That's illegal? Not borderline illegal? 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:48.080 I agree, but it was ten years ago, and come. 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.360 And the statue of libertation says that ten years, you 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:51.240 can do whatever you want. 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.400 Okay, all right, so I'm gonna kick it off. 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:55.920 I went into his apartment after I found out that 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.160 he had been cheating on me for six months. I 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:01.720 drenched his carpet and then I covered it in grass mix. 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:03.760 He was away on a work trip for three and 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.320 a half weeks, so I turned that central heating up 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:07.920 to thirty degrees. 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.640 And I let the bad boy flourish. 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:14.360 Imagine seeding the lounge room carpet of an apartment. 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:15.360 Wouldn't you get off on that. 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:19.240 I would come home and I'd. 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:19.240 Like more room to propagate. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.240 Chokes on you my indoor garden. Finally living out all 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.240 my best dreams. Okay, I've got one. 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.159 I went to the pet store and bought frozen rats 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:31.719 and put them in his car. 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.640 That was my favorite. There was more context to this. 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.840 He was away, discussed it away for a long time 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:38.599 as well. 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:40.200 This is what I'm learning from these. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.040 If you're ever going to enact to revenge, you've got 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:43.720 to do it when they've gone away on a work trip, 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:45.719 and you can really let that sort of stuff just 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.400 simmer in the sun or the heat. Okay, I drove 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:50.680 his car to the edge of our property, and I 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:54.640 covered it in shit, like literal cow manure from top 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:55.200 to bottom. 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:56.240 You get your car. 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:57.760 That's not the worst for me. You get your cars 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.040 shit on my birds and stuff all the time. 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.440 She hovered it in like a thick layer of manure 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:03.960 that you would put in the garden. 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:06.920 Do something that's not gonna gross you out too. You've 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.120 got to put your hands in manure and like massage 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:10.080 you into someone's car. 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.200 Maybe they live on a farm. Okay, this one is great. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.800 This one I thought was brilliant, especially coming from the 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:18.160 plant person. So this woman, her boyfriend had a beautifully 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.360 manicured front garden, like he was really into his landscaping. 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.800 He'd only recently had the landscaping in the front of 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.000 the house finished. And she went to the pet store 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.120 and she bought you know when you go and you 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.640 get like the little pebbles for a fish tank. She 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:34.800 bought like brightly colored kilograms of the brightly colored little 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:36.440 tiny pebbles that you put at the bottom of a 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.120 fish tank, and she scattered it all throughout his car. 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.400 What the pink like pink and purple and green. 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.560 You would never ever ever be able to get that, like, 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:46.839 hand picked that out of your fucking garden. I came 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.080 finding it for years. I got this, I got this 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.599 garden one come in. My ex loved to garden. It 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:52.560 was his pride and joy. 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.680 So after we broke up because he cheated on me, 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.160 I went to his house dug some of his great 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.200 plants out so that I could take them home myself 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:00.920 and poison and the rest. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.520 That's really me. I felt bad because they were beautiful, 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.800 but fuck you, it's really. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.159 I unpicked at the buttons on his work shirt just 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:12.280 enough so that they would pop off while he was 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.680 wearing them. But she did it to every single one 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.039 of his button up shirts. Got holes in the crutch 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.040 of all his suits. My husband was so lazy. 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:20.479 I know there is no way he would have noticed 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.240 before putting them. On the day. 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:26.159 Of a Noveda wedder, I threw my ex's rolex in 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:26.599 the yarraw. 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.040 That's illegal, but also that's also brutal fair. 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:34.160 I put hair remover a cream in his shampoo and 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.120 then look, it goes a bit further than that. She 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.280 put hair remove a cream in his shampoo and then 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.200 she urinated in his mouth wash, which I am not condoning. 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:42.800 That's too far. 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:48.280 That's you're in a stair ale though. No mouthwash, yes, 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.120 so imagine if they're both together. You had to clean 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:54.520 his mouth in history. That's that is so illegal, covered 0:06:54.560 --> 0:07:00.320 his car in glitter and lube. 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:01.200 A that's really funny. 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.520 I opened a can of tuna and I hit it 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:04.360 under his bed. 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.400 Right, you know what I was thinking when I was 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.160 reading these because I'm not a revenger, right Like, we 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.280 know that my ex had a double life, and all 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:12.080 I did was take his toilet. 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:13.520 Pap, you need to be more spiteful. 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.120 Well, I don't hope. I don't have to ever be 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:16.840 spiteful again. Friends an angel. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:18.800 But what I was thinking I would do is, and 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:22.040 I took this idea from all of you guys, instead 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.120 of just putting something in the cur like fish in 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:28.080 the curtains or tuna under the bed, I would take 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.520 the sheets off the bed and then cut on the 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:35.040 underside of the mattress. Cut in a hole, put all 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:36.920 of whatever you want in there, because no one is 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:39.120 ever going to look for a hole in the mattress. 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.600 So all of the dead animals or the food goes 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:42.480 into the mattress. 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:43.320 If you wanted to. 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.280 You could sew that scene back up, put the sheets 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.200 back on, and there's no way in hell that they 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:49.920 are ever finding that. 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.240 That is the most revolting thing I have ever heard. 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.640 But really, no, you would realize pretty quickly that the 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:56.560 stench was coming from your match, but you'd be. 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:57.360 Looking under it. 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.720 You wouldn't. It's son up. But it's like, I'm essentially six. 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:02.880 That is so fucking rank. 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:07.720 Imagine someone getting frozen rats and putting them inside your mattress. Okay, 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.400 there's so many guys, There was so, so, so many 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:14.160 of these. The most common one, which we're also not endorsing, 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.960 was that you went and had sex with someone who 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.920 they cared about, like their brother or their best friend, 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.600 or their cousin or someone in their immediate family who. 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:24.960 You thought this is really going to hurt them. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.480 Also, I poked a hole in his goggles so that 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.400 they would just leak a tiny little bit when he 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:30.640 was swimming, which he did daily. 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:32.080 That's an annoying one. 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.200 Reported him to the government for tax fraud and added 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:36.800 him to a monthly Bible. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:40.120 Subscription, which he now received in the That's all right, 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:41.280 Maybe he needed to find God. 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:43.760 He needed to repent for his sins. Motherful, Okay, this 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:47.760 one's actually dangerous. Poured olive oil on the windscreen. You 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.600 can't do anything that's going to kill someone. 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:50.360 Is it dangerous? 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:50.520 Though? 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.120 Would he realize as soon as he got in the 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.839 car that he couldn't if it's oily. 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:56.680 And it's distorting your vision, Like, I'm getting really serious, 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:58.480 so you can't do that. The Bible thing's one thing, 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.280 all right? I mean we really ended on down, it, 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:01.840 didn't you, broo. 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:07.840 I wanted to talk about something today that is a 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:11.000 little bit different to your standard life un cut content, 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.120 which really does bounce around with a whole lot of 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.880 different stuff. You guys might have seen that there are 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.520 a lot of conversations happening online at the moment which 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:22.559 is spearheaded by independent and by the major news groups 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.920 around Meta, which is if you are not familiar with Meta, 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.320 I'm sure you are. It's Facebook and Instagram. The parent 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:33.280 company of Facebook and Instagram, Mark Zuckerberg basically is changing 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:37.199 the way in which Facebook is going to distribute news. 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:38.160 On their platforms. 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.760 You might remember back in twenty twenty one, there was 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.840 this like a couple of days when news was taken 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:48.480 off Instagram and off Facebook and everybody was up in arms. 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:51.240 It was like a news blackout, absolutely, and the reason 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.520 for that was because at the time Meta and the 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.680 Government were at lockerheads around who should be paying for 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:00.000 news and how was news in Australia going to be 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.760 distributed on social media platforms. Now, the agreement that they 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.440 broke it in twenty twenty one expires in April this year, 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:11.360 and that agreement was called the Government News Media Bargaining Code, 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.880 which basically meant that news outlets, the big major news 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:18.599 outlets I'm talking like Fairfax and seven, it allowed them 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:22.440 to negotiate with Meta to receive a payment for the 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:26.120 news and the content that they put onto Meta's networks. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.120 So basically, if they were going to provide content and 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.840 they're going to post, and they're going to be driving 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.640 people towards news and sharing the news, what it meant 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.320 is that the responsibility of payment laid with Meta. And 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:42.000 so every year Meta pays an absolute fuck load to 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.960 Australian news outlets. I think it accounts for up to 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.960 ten percent of their overall income that they're receiving. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:49.480 This is not a new thing. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.280 Basically, what's happened is that Meta has turned around and said, 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:53.800 as of April. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:54.880 We're binning the whole thing. 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.160 We are no longer going to be paying for news 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.160 to be supported on our sites. So ultimately what is 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.760 going to happen is that they're removing the news tab, 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:04.720 so you'll no longer be able to go on Facebook 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:06.600 and have a news tab there where you can see 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.959 what's current in the world. And also they're going to 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.520 limit any of the news platforms. So I'm talking you know, 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.240 if you go on and you look at ABC News, 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.120 or you look at Sky News, or you look at 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.440 dot com some of the independent ones as well, like 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.840 the Daily Os, who have been very vocal in this space, 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.040 you will no longer be able to see the content. 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:24.439 And so currently this. 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:28.200 Band already exists in the UK, it exists in Germany, 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.880 in France and in Canada. They rolled this out earlier 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.160 this year, and so if you go on to any 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:36.800 news site in those places, it currently says news in 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.800 this area cannot be accessed because it is banned on 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.440 this network. So if you try and this is interesting 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.880 because the Daily Oz did an episode on it, if 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:46.719 you're in Canada at the moment and you try and 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.840 Instagram search, the daily os. You cannot see the profile 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:51.720 page and you cannot see the content that it has. 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.600 Yeah, but I think the interesting thing is here the 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.320 reason Facebook's giving for saying, Hey, we're going to withdraw 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.720 OWND news. This is the official quote that Meta put out. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.520 They've decided that the cost of providing news in Australia 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.960 is too high. It's reason for the change is to 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:09.080 better align our investments to our products and services people 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:13.240 value the most. The interesting thing here is the statistic 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.080 that Meta put out saying that in the last year, 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.680 news clicks in Australia have declined by eighty percent, which 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:22.559 is a huge amount. They're saying there's something like only 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.280 three percent of engagement with news sites now. But how 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.199 are we supposed to know that that is even a 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:31.160 valid statistic? This is just purely coming from Meta Medican 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:32.240 tellus whatever the fuck they want. 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:36.520 Well, I found this so deeply fascinating, And the reason 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:40.040 for that is because partly when I read all about this, 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.600 and I do not think that Facebook are the good guys. 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.319 Let me tell you that first, I do not think 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.839 that Meta other good guys in this, but I also 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.480 understand why they're at a point now where they're like, 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:52.760 we no longer want the news on our platform. So 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.160 basically they've said that three percent of the content is 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.840 what constitutes news and what people are engaged with when 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.320 it comes to news on their platform. And I know 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.079 that there's no way for us to know the truth 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.480 behind that and as to whether that is fact or not. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:08.040 But the reality is why would they have Facebook. Their 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.240 number one thing they want is for people to spend 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:13.120 more time on their platform. So if news was making 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:17.320 up a hugely critical volume of people's interests, they wouldn't 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.679 be removing it, they would be keeping it. So they 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.280 have obviously done a cost analysis of well how much 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.439 does it cost us to have the news? How much 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.120 are we outlaying in order to have this content and 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.760 for people to engage with it, and is it valuable 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:30.000 to us? 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:30.800 And do we need it? 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.520 And they've come to the decision as a business, well no, 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.360 we don't need it, and the news outlets need us 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.240 a fuckload more than we need them. And that's where 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.160 this kind of like dynamic has been created. And the 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.319 thing that I think is the biggest flaw with the 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.800 Australian Government's news media bargaining agreement that they came to 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.920 in twenty twenty one is that it doesn't benefit all 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:55.200 news outlets. So independent news outlets like The Conversation, like 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.559 The Daily because, for example, they don't actually get a 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:03.000 kickback from Meta and arguably they are some of the 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.320 very creative news outlets who are putting out the most 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:10.840 unbiased and factchecked news news that as well, I think 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.559 is the most engaging on their platforms. The Daily Oz 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:17.480 has grown, it like, absolutely exploded in the last three 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:18.640 years since covid. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.720 Well, they have half a million followers on Instagram alone. 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.720 Yeah, and when we interviewed Sam a few years back, 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:24.520 there were only on like one hundred and fifty thousand. 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:26.880 So the thing with the Daily Oz is that they 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.200 created a platform where it took news to the place 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:30.360 where people engage with it. 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:31.960 That's on social media. 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:33.720 But the reason why I guess the whole thing is 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:35.760 kind of like a bit of a problem and why 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:37.960 it's kind of moved so far away from it being 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.240 a news aggregator is that on one hand, you have 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.840 news batlets who have profiles on Instagram, and in order 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:48.080 to get people to engage with their content further, what 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.480 they do and It's what we've all seen is instead 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.520 of having a news article sitting and living on Instagram, 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.960 they just have a really click baity headline, something that 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.240 as you're scrolling you see it and you're like, oh fuck, 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.560 what's that and then you have to click the link 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.960 in bio in order to go and read the article. 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.800 So what news outlets are actually doing is that they're 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.760 pushing people off the platform onto their own sites to 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:14.200 engage with their own content, and ultimately, Meta as a 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:17.520 business doesn't want users leaving their platform. We've discussed this 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.240 so many times. They want people with engaging with their 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.520 content as much as possible for as long as possible. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.040 The daily is so if you don't know who they are, 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:26.240 you'll know the faces of it. 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.880 Zara and Sam they are the founders. 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:30.520 There's a bunch of people that have gone into it, 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.720 but they're the face that's who you'll hear from the most. 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.520 And I think Zara summarized it really well, So I 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.120 just want to read exactly what she wrote. She said, 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:42.200 without a strong news ecosystem on social media, young Australians 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:47.000 will have nowhere to access reliable, fact checked information. We 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.640 know young people won't actively seek out news elsewhere. All 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:54.080 the research tells us that, so what will happen? Instead, 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.600 We'll see a rise in influencer led commentary attracting young 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:01.120 people to death. With the editors, fact and journalists that 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:04.960 make up modern newsrooms, young people will have unchecked opinions 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:06.920 in their place. Now, just to sit on that for 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:10.480 a second, that is something that you don't immediately think about, 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:14.040 but that is so worrying. We see so many loud 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:18.680 people on social media that are stuffing their opinions that 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:23.040 are often incorrect down your throats and unforbiased, biased opinion, biased, 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.680 sometimes uneducated. Sometimes you know, there's a whole multitude of things, 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:28.760 but they're throwing these down your throat. And if you've 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.560 got nowhere else to access your news, it's very easy 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.960 and we've seen it happen. It's very easy to listen 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.400 to what some influencer has said, take that as gospel, 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.160 and you go and spread that news. 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:39.560 Yeah. 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.440 And also what it means is like people are not 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.200 going to pay for subscription newspapers right like most people 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:45.840 And I would love to just do a poll of 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.360 you guys. The life is like who is paying for 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.720 a subscription based news outlet? Like, are you subscribed to 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.400 the Telegraph? Are you subscribed to I don't know, the 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.880 New York Times. I would love to know how many 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.320 of you actually are paying for news because we live 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.120 in a society where we so deeply just expect things 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.159 for free, and I think people are getting most of 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.760 their bite sized information, whether it is a good thing 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.840