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Speaker 1: Now we know. I believe it's after thirty years, Saint

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Speaker 1: Vincent de Paul's Osmond House has moved from Stuart Park

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Speaker 1: to Coconut Grove. The planned move had seen many locals

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Speaker 1: in Coconut Grove and Nightcliff raise concerns about the potential

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Speaker 1: for an increase in anti social behavior. Now joining me

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Speaker 1: on the line is the CEO of Saint Vine's here

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Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory, Rob Latter. Good morning to you, Rob,

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Speaker 1: Hi Katie.

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Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed the new studio you run at

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Speaker 2: the moment.

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Speaker 1: It's very nice. I'm feeling a bit out of place

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Speaker 1: for Rob after several several years in the old studio,

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Speaker 1: but it is very nice now mate, how are you

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Speaker 1: guys going. How's the move gone from Stuart Park to

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Speaker 1: Coconut Grove.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so just the correction. And we've been in the

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Speaker 2: Stuart Park for fifty years, fifty years years here, so

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Speaker 2: our transition has gone really well. We're in our new

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Speaker 2: temporary facility at Coconut Grove and we have received feedback

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Speaker 2: from our clients that have been very I was there

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Speaker 2: tomorrow yesterday morning. I was also there this morning and

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Speaker 2: definitely we would have had about sixty of our clients

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Speaker 2: and our first thing in the morning. Yeah, Rob, Generally

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Speaker 2: it's been going smoothly and we are mindful of our neighbors,

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Speaker 2: so we are making sure that they get back on

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Speaker 2: buses and out of Cacaut Grove as sin as they've

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Speaker 2: been provided the services that we provide.

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Speaker 1: Rob, I know what it's been like for us moving

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Speaker 1: buildings after I reckon it's probably about fifty years as well,

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Speaker 1: it could be less. What's it been like for you guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, moving those services and letting all those clients

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Speaker 1: that have been going to Stuart Park for the last

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Speaker 1: fifty years or however many years, letting them know that

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Speaker 1: you are moving locations.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, no, it actually has has gone really smoothly.

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Speaker 2: We have a great team staff team here to have

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Speaker 2: been activated and we've probably been happening for the last

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Speaker 2: six months. So we've gone through a good process. Found

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Speaker 2: with our clients. Word of mouth is the best approach

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Speaker 2: and obviously that's paid off because you know, sixty people

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Speaker 2: there on the first day is really good. So obviously

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Speaker 2: word is word of mouth is the best for the

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Speaker 2: homeless people in Darwin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so yesterday was the first day of operation.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's correct, And I mean how many.

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Speaker 1: Clients would you generally service, like would you generally see

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Speaker 1: every day?

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Speaker 2: So at oldenhow Stuart Park we head up to one hundred,

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Speaker 2: So sixty on the first day is actually a really

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Speaker 2: good number. Most would have come by public transport through

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Speaker 2: the bus system, So yeah, I know it's a good number.

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Speaker 2: We're happy with that.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned a moment ago that you know that

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Speaker 1: there is work then happening to ensure that they're not

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Speaker 1: lingering around. You know that people aren't sort of lingering

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Speaker 1: around that coconut grove facility. Where are they going or

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Speaker 1: what are they doing after they've been to you guys

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Speaker 1: and had a feed and you know the support that

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Speaker 1: they need, yees.

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Speaker 2: So I mean they would have gone back to where

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Speaker 2: they are generally sleeping rough, So they are we have

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Speaker 2: clients throughout creat Darwin and including Palmerston, so they'd be

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Speaker 2: back on the on there on the buses and back

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Speaker 2: to where they're where they're sleeping rough And it's pretty

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Speaker 2: hard out there for them, the most vulnerable people in

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Speaker 2: our community, and as you know, we're twelve times the

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Speaker 1: I'm homeless so what work, what long term work is

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Speaker 1: now going to happen in terms of you know, in

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Speaker 1: terms of a facility, because I know the Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: News was reporting that Coconut Grove could be home to

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Speaker 1: the relocated OSNAM House for at least five years, not

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Speaker 1: two years as approved by the Development Consent to Authority.

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Speaker 1: Is that the case.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, at the end of the day, we

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Speaker 2: are negotiating with the Northern Territory government on finding a

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Speaker 2: permanent site. That is our number one aim and we

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Speaker 2: want to be out of there within two years so

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Speaker 2: that we can then have our permanent site and look

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Speaker 2: So we are still negotiating with an ordnitary government on

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Speaker 1: And how are those negotiations going. With the change of.

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Speaker 2: Government, we have not been able to have a chance

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Speaker 2: to sit down with ministers and the Chief Minister to

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Speaker 2: discuss it face to face. So we are open to

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Speaker 2: that possibility. And we are in ongoing discussions with anti staff,

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Speaker 2: so anti government staff. So that's been going on for

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Speaker 2: the last four years with over one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: meetings already thus far, so we are still working and

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Speaker 2: finding a solution.

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Speaker 1: Rob in an ideal world for you and for Saint Vinnie's,

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Speaker 1: where would that permanent facility be.

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Speaker 2: Well, we do have a preferred site that is bandal

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Speaker 2: and dry. You're open to find other sites if that

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Speaker 2: one's not themed suitable. So it just has to be

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Speaker 2: the right scale and location. So there are other Crown

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Speaker 2: land sites that could be a possibility, but again we

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Speaker 2: just got to work through that with an Northern Charitory government.

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Speaker 1: So what's next from your perspective.

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Speaker 2: Well, we just keep at negotiating and hopefully get some

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Speaker 2: meetings up on the fifth floor and get some progression

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Speaker 2: and finding that long term solution.

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Speaker 1: Well, the fact is, I mean, like you touched on earlier,

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Speaker 1: this is something that you have been that Saint Vincent

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Speaker 1: de Paul has been trying to really work out for

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Speaker 1: a long period of time. This isn't like you know,

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Speaker 1: the relocation is, while it is a new thing in

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Speaker 1: terms of having to relocate there to coconut grow, if

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Speaker 1: you've been trying to find a longer term solution for

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Speaker 1: a long time.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's correct, yep, and we're working on it, you know,

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Speaker 2: we're dogmatic. We're going to keep at it and it'll

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Speaker 2: be a partnership with our key nation. So there'll be

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Speaker 2: two of us that are in the negotiation stage. So

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Speaker 2: I'm working with Michael Rotima and we are we are

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Speaker 2: having meetings basically every week.

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Speaker 1: Now, well, let's hope, you know, I hope that you're

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Speaker 1: able to come to a solution and the government gets

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Speaker 1: to the table with you. You know, these services are required.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of people sleeping rough in the

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory as you touched on earlier, and the services

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Speaker 1: are required. So I hope that we're able to get

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Speaker 1: to that longer term solution.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I appreciate talking to you about it, Kate.

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Speaker 1: Now, I really appreciate your time this morning. Rob all

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Speaker 1: the best and we'll catch up with you again soon.

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Speaker 2: That'd be great.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Thanks very much, Bye bye now.