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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation. The pin numbers matter. I know

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Speaker 1: they matter. Actually, I'm surprised you haven't picked me up

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Speaker 1: on my Tutology pin number because that's what the end

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Speaker 1: stands for Personal entification number.

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Speaker 2: I do know that.

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Speaker 1: But I was at a shop the other day and

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Speaker 1: often you put your pin in and they look discreetly away.

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Speaker 1: But the person was just looking straight at me and

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Speaker 1: looking at me putting the number in. I thought, does

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Speaker 1: it matter if I've got this card? Yes, if I've

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Speaker 1: got my card, they can't do anything. And it's a store,

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Speaker 1: it's the petrol station. Actually doesn't matter. What's your etiquette

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Speaker 1: with that? Do I bore them to make sure they

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Speaker 1: don't look at it?

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Speaker 2: I know I don't because unless they have the card.

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Speaker 1: But what if they've got some skimming something inside their machine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: That could happen.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point. It just only just happened. The

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Speaker 2: other day.

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Speaker 3: I went into my service station, not my local one,

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Speaker 3: a different one, and the guy the lady walked out

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Speaker 3: in a half and I said to the guy, what's

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Speaker 3: her problem? And he said I When she was doing

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Speaker 3: the thing, he said, I watch your pin number? And

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Speaker 3: she she told him.

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Speaker 1: Why did he ask us?

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Speaker 3: Did exactly what I said? He said, I was just

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Speaker 3: making jokes. Oh dude, I don't blame her for storming.

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Speaker 2: Out in a half.

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Speaker 1: When you get money out of the ATM, the ATM machine.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what's the automatic telemachine machine?

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Speaker 1: It's really hard to find one these days, isn't it

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Speaker 1: to try and get cash out? Do you cover your pine?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I put my hand over it, and then I

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Speaker 3: pretend to do the button pressing.

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Speaker 2: I do this confuse the bag the scammers. Also, I'll

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Speaker 2: go a step further. I actually check out the whole

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Speaker 2: pin pad.

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Speaker 3: I run my fingers around the edge to see if

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Speaker 3: some sort of like Asian crime gang hasn't put a

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Speaker 3: put a thing in there so you can find it.

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Speaker 3: And then I give the camera the finger as I'm

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Speaker 3: doing it. So I just go full in there. Really,

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Speaker 3: I'm full on front front foot.

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Speaker 1: So how did you know if it's a fake pad?

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Speaker 2: Well, because it'll just rip off in your hands.

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Speaker 1: Has that happened?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: This is you do not watch the.

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Speaker 3: News people put these fake pads in the top and

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Speaker 3: they do.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to run your fingers. Man could be.

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Speaker 2: What's man better than being scammed.

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Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, isn't it. I mean it's going to come

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Speaker 1: from being on mailing list and stuff like that. We're

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Speaker 1: going to be scammed, whether you know they're a step

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Speaker 1: ahead of us, and I know there are things we

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Speaker 1: can do, but it was, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, here at work, I got this email to my

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Speaker 3: work email from the work department here, and I thought.

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Speaker 1: The work department, work, dear Brendan, where the work department?

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Speaker 1: That sounds legit?

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Speaker 2: Whoever it does work?

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Speaker 1: Do you want some money from me?

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Speaker 3: And it said about I have to I've got too

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Speaker 3: many logins or something for my email account. And it's

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Speaker 3: a click on this link and you can sort it out.

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Speaker 3: And I was about to click on that.

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Speaker 1: Hang on a second, Hang on a second, and.

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Speaker 3: I said to young Tommy, I said, is this for

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Speaker 3: realsy or a scam? He said no, that's a scam

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Speaker 3: And I said, all right, and he said, it's a

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Speaker 3: scam from our work department. We set out to catch

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Speaker 3: people at and if you get caught doing it, then

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Speaker 3: you have to go and do a training course. To

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Speaker 3: save myself a training sa this place I've avoided. How

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Speaker 3: to sit in a chair properly, how to drink hot fluids,

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Speaker 3: and now how to not get screened.

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Speaker 1: You know, I haven't read an email since eighteen fifty eight,

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Speaker 1: so they know they can't get me.

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Speaker 2: Ha ha.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when they proclamated Sydney a city